Re: [lace] Starting a Scroll

2012-03-13 Thread pene piip

Thanks for help received from fellow Arachneans.
I decided to use the diagrams on pages 35-36 of Bridget Cook's 
"Practical Skills in BL"
describing 'a wide scroll start'. I just had to mentally reverse the 
diagrams as my scroll was

going in the opposite direction.

Today I started & finished the first of the butterfly's wings.
I'll post a photo when it is finished.
Thanks again,
Pene
in Tartu, Estonia
where we had a sudden snowstorm & the skies are clear again.

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[lace] Starting a scroll

2012-02-26 Thread Jean Nathan
If you can have (or can borrow from your lace guild) the DVD or video 
"Brugge Bloemwerk with Patricia Bury" both starting and finishing scrolls 
are shown very clearly.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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[lace] starting a scroll

2012-02-25 Thread Lorelei Halley
Robin
All the bobbin part laces that have scrolls as part of their stock of motifs
work them in different ways.  Not wildly different ways.  Honiton, Duchess,
Withof, Bruges Bloomwork -- all different.  And too diffcult to explain in an
email.  The answer would be like writing a small book.  What kind of edge
stitch is used, how do you get around the curve of the scroll head, how many
and where do you add extra pairs and remove them, how complex does the cloth
weaving get, all those sorts of issues.
Lorelei

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Re: [lace] Starting a Scroll

2012-02-25 Thread robinlace
 pene piip  wrote: 
Please can anyone direct me to a book that shows how to start a scroll.

Pat Read has instructions in her first book on Milanese Lace (can't remember 
the exact title but some Arachnean can, I'm sure).  Do different bobbin lace 
types use different methods of making scrolls?

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
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RE: [lace] Starting a Scroll

2012-02-25 Thread Sue
Hi Pen, 

Try " Milanese Lace An Introduction" by Patricia Read and Lucy Kinkaid there
is a very good section on starting and finishing scrolls in that on Page 20
I found this book indispensable when learning Milanese.

ISBN 07134 5707 4

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK

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[lace] starting a scroll

2012-02-25 Thread Lorelei Halley
Pene
There is a book by Rombach-de-Kievid BRUGS BLOEMWERK, 1984, Terra Zutphen
pages 11-12, which also has the Bruges scroll.  But it is in Dutch, which I
can't read.  I have to rely on the diagrams and the Sutton book is about the
same.  Are you getting holes at the pin, or in the middle of the scroll?
Sometimes you need to add an extra pair near the scroll head, which you then
cut off when you reach the long parallel stem of the scroll.  And you may have
to add a pair again when you approach the scroll end.
Lorelei

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Re: [lace] Starting a Scroll

2012-02-25 Thread pene piip
Sorry for not provide more detail.
I wanted to make another Easter Egg from Annelies Kirst's 2nd book.
It's one of the patterns with a butterfly labeled "Duchesse-Ei" on page 18.
I've enlarged it a bit & I want to work it in coloured thread.
She provides a diagram for the pivot turn on the bottom wings, & the 
order of how to work the wings.
But I just don't like the holes at the beginning of the scrolls.
I haven't worked a scroll before, so I'm looking for a better way to 
work them.
I have Edna Sutton's "Bruges Flower Lace" which shows how to start & end 
a simple scroll.
Thanks for everybody's help,
Pene

On 2/25/2012 4:55 PM, dmt11h...@aol.com wrote:
> Pene, have you joined http://laceioli.ning.com/ yet? We started this 
> about a month ago. It has superior picture and Youtube capacity. This 
> would be a good question for the Duchesse group.
> Wouldn't it be great if someone would do a scroll and post a Youtube 
> of it.
> Devon
> In a message dated 2/25/2012 8:56:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> p...@eggo.org writes:
>
> Please can anyone direct me to a book that shows how to start a
> scroll.
> I've found 2 methods in Bridget Cook's "Practical Skills" & another
> different
> way in Ulrike Löhr's "400 Tricks" & I'm going to dig up a Duchesse
> book.
> But I just wonder if someone's recently worked a scroll & can help
> to me.
> Thanks,
> Pene
>
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[lace] Starting a Scroll

2012-02-25 Thread pene piip

Please can anyone direct me to a book that shows how to start a scroll.
I've found 2 methods in Bridget Cook's "Practical Skills" & another 
different

way in Ulrike Löhr's "400 Tricks" & I'm going to dig up a Duchesse book.
But I just wonder if someone's recently worked a scroll & can help to me.
Thanks,
Pene

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