RE: [lace] Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-25 Thread Angel Skubic
I have the nook reader and use both the nook and kindle app on my iPhone. I
love reading on my phone because I can read in the dark but love the nook
book (black and white flat no glare) during the day. Yes I have the Nook
clip on lights for reading in the dark but they do glare and the batteries
are not friendly to people like me who can spend hours reading in the dark.
I tend to run the light batteries down. My son has been using my nook's
charger for his HTC Evo phone because the charger cords are identical and he
lost his HTC Evo charger. I told him he could use it if he was sure to plug
in the nook when he wasn't using it but he finds it inconvenient to run back
and forth into my room to get the cord (sigh) Wonder what he would think if
I just took it back??
Wishing I had the iPad because I could keep my piecework magazines on it. I
do keep my Queen Susan Shetland lace shawl pattern (knitted lace) on the
iPhone but it is so small it is of very little use really (and the Queen
Susan Shetland Shawl has just a zillion charts) The pattern book itself is
pdf and 76 pages. (yes, that is for only 1 shawl) It is nice, though, if I
have a question about something and want to read a section of the pattern
book. (usually I take a printed chart in a plastic sleeve to use when I knit
on the go) One chart, however, doesn't give you the research notes of the
people who spent ages literally creating the charts for this lost shawl
that was preserved in only 1 picture in a lace museum. Having the pdf on my
phone is handy when you get into something that you question and want to see
what they recommended or did themselves.

Cearbhael

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Subject: Re: [lace] Re: [lace] books vs kindle

Ilske, I have an iPad and there is a Kindle App for it.  So I can read books
from Amazon or Apple and other sources as well.

Clay

Sent from my iPad

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Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-20 Thread Lesley Blackshaw

On 19/05/2013 18:38, Jean Nathan wrote:
You've all left out the most important problem of owning an e-reader 
- where do you put your lace book mark?


I love my Kindle, but my lace bookmarks are in my paper books which I 
also love to read.  The books I like because they are in a familiar 
form, I can swap them with friends and take them to the charity shop and 
exchange them for more books.  The Kindle I like as I can get to my 
Kindle books on my phone, my ipad or my laptop so it doesn't matter 
where I am, I can read my book.  It's great for work, and also for my 
Open University Course as I can access my OU books and course materials 
via Kindle even when I don't have an internet connection.


Lesley

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[lace] Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-20 Thread kloeppelki...@t-online.de
Just a question on this thread because I wonder: Is Kindle a
synonymous for any eBook reader or do you all really use Kindle? 

I myself decided for a Sony (mainly for junk food books). 

Gabriele, chemnitz, Germany  

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 LOL...I put mine in a drawer 0:-)

 On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Jean Nathan
j...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk [7]
  wrote:

  You've all left out the most important problem of owning an
e-reader -
  where do you put your lace book mark?
 
 
 I've seen knitted e-reader covers, should think of one made of lace!
 -- 
 Bev surrounded by a lot of paper diagrams, working on patchwork lace
in
 Shirley BC, near Sooke on a fine Victoria Day weekend, Vancouver
Island,
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Re: [lace] Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-20 Thread Lesley Blackshaw

On 20/05/2013 11:46, kloeppelki...@t-online.de wrote:

Just a question on this thread because I wonder: Is Kindle a
synonymous for any eBook reader or do you all really use Kindle? 



Mine's a Kindle.

Lesley
in Marple, UK, wondering whether summer will ever arrive.

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Re: [lace] Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-20 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Gabriele,
Kindle is a brandmark and is connected with amazon. And this is in my opinion a 
problem, you can bye e.books only from them. There excist several other 
e-readers like mine from Sony. Than you are free to bye where you want. The 
e.reader from Thalia are also connected with Thalia.
And if you have a i-Pad or a i-Pad Mini your are bound on Apple.
But if you want to buy one take one who has e-ink system you can't see color 
than but the script is perfect. Newer models have an integrated light, Sony 
offers a little lamp you can pin on the reader.
Hope this helps.

Ilske

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Re: [lace] Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-20 Thread suebabbs385
I chose the Kindle (black  white only) because I liked the non-reflective 
screen. It seems easier on my eyes




Sue

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Re: [lace] Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-20 Thread Clay Blackwell
Ilske, I have an iPad and there is a Kindle App for it.  So I can read books 
from Amazon or Apple and other sources as well.

Clay

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Re: [lace] Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-20 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Thanks, Clay,
that was what I forget to write. And there ia another fine thing, but perhaps 
only in Germany. With some e-readers one could lend e-books from an 
organization I can't find the name so quick. But for Sony doesn't exist an App 
yet.

Ilske

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Re: [lace] Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-20 Thread The Lace Bee
I also meant to say that when I fall asleep and hit myself in the face with the 
iPad it hurts more than when I do that with even a hardback book.

L

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

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Re: [lace] Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-20 Thread J D Hammett
Mine is a Kindle. 


Joepie.

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To: Lace 
Subject: [lace] Re: [lace] books vs kindle 


Just a question on this thread because I wonder: Is Kindle a
synonymous for any eBook reader or do you all really use Kindle? 

I myself decided for a Sony (mainly for junk food books). 

Gabriele, chemnitz, Germany  


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Re: [lace] Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-20 Thread The Lace Bee
I have an iPad and iBooks tend to be pdf in format for this reader.  However, I 
was able to download a free kindle app from the AppStore to allow me to access 
kindle books.

I think that amazon have realised that they need to make their ebooks available 
to other platforms so they opened up access.  However, if you have bought a 
ebook reader (such as kindle) rather than a tablet (such as an iPad) it is 
unlikely that you will be able to add software to read other formats.  This has 
been one of the reasons people looked at buying tablets.

However, WH Smiths in the UK have their own ebook reader kobo which you can buy 
for 1/10 of the cost of a tablet such as an iPad.  It is that cheap that it the 
cost of 4or 5 hardback books which makes people think that it is worth buying.

But I also use my iPad to access e-ink version of my print magazines such as 
good food, gardener's world and knitting and crochet magazines which are not 
always available on other platforms (or ebook readers)

L

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

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 Kindle is a brandmark and is connected with amazon. And this is in my opinion 
 a problem, you can bye e.books only from them. 
 
 

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Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-19 Thread J D Hammett

Hi arachnids,

Lace diagrams are not quite as easy to follow on the e-readers. Can one 
photocopy a diagram? With really complicated patterns my students are 
allowed to use a 'idiots' board - a piece of polystyrene with the 
photocopied diagram pinned to it - so they can put pins in the diagram to 
show where they are. I use an older Kindle when I am away from home, when 
space is at a premium or when it is a very heavy, thick book which I would 
have difficulty holding for longer periods.


However, I love 'proper' books and possess many. My family has called it my 
very expensive insulation for a long time as several walls are lined with 
them.


Happy lace making,

Joepie, East Sussex, UK

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Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-19 Thread The Lace Bee
I find ebooks great for crochet because they are following written instructions 
but because I have an iPad but not an apple computer printing becomes a problem 
as you loose resolution between screen shot and printing.

If the original is a pdf then this does make it easier but you have to ensure 
with PDFs when you print the pattern for lace, that the pattern size doesn't 
change because reared are you printing on patter that is the same size the 
book.  I first had this problem when went a pattern from the US electronically 
- it was sized for letter paper and I printed on a4.  Luckily it was obvious 
that the pattern had side.

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

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 Hi arachnids,
 
 Lace diagrams are not quite as easy to follow on the e-readers. Can one 
 photocopy a diagram? 
 
 Joepie, East Sussex, UK
 
 

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[lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-19 Thread Jean Nathan
I can't see me ever getting an e-reader. For me there's nothing so 
comforting as holding a book in our hand.


They also cost nothing to run, can be recycled, the covers are attractive to 
look at, (as Joepie says) they provide insulation to your walls, you don't 
need a printer to get hard copy, you can walk into the nearest stationers 
and get a photocopy if you want extra hard copies, you can make notes in the 
margins if you want to.


I've tried audio books, but never got past more than a few sentences before 
falling asleep.


I'm sure e-readers, tablets, computer phones (mine is just that a phone - 
I've even had texting switched off by my service provider), etc have their 
place for many, but while there are people like me about, books will never 
disappear.


I've still got a lot of books on my book shelves, and I like getting 
distracted and thumb through them when I'm trying to find a particular lace 
pattern or idea as I have been in the past week. Can't imagine doing that on 
an e-reader.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-19 Thread lynrbailey
Dear Lin et al,
I think modern technology can help us in so many ways.  I listen to books on my 
iPod a lot.  But the idea that paper books will go the way of the dodo is not 
going to happen in our lifetime.  There is a definite place for the traditional 
way, and a definite place and use for all the new fangled technologies.  But 
neither are going to go away, and the dust hasn't settled on it all yet.  Nor 
is technology done.  No one has decided to put a lacebook solely on Kindle.  
But digital printing on demand is a hopeful solution to lace book scarcity.  I 
suspect both will live side by side for many, many years to come. Even with 
lacemaking.  No one would think of paying someone to read aloud while other 
lacemakers throw the bobbins.  It's time for radio, or CD's, or iPods, for 
books or music or the Saturday afternoon opera.  On the other hand, doing it 
the way it was done before electricity, with the water filled globes also has 
its place, although not a big one.  And no one would willi!
 ngly work in a tubercular cellar to keep the linen thread damp. 

Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, with clouds and drizzle.  61F, 17.5C at 
8:30 a.m. 




Lin Hudren wrote:
 I am a full time RVer and am always looking for a new book to read.  I
 have space and weight concerns.  my security blanket is a book.  to make
 room for those extra pillows and bobbins, tatting shuttles and threads,
 etc., i invested in an eReader (kindle keyboard) a bit over 2 years ago.  i
 was able to replace all those stored books in epub or mobi format and have
 purchased thousands of others.  i have about 45,000 books in my library
 (stored on 12 DVDs).  i have a book no matter where i am.  since i read 6
 or 7 books a week (entertainment), it was a blessing to be able to have so
 many at my fingertips.  i wish i had had this technology many years ago.  i
 have several lace books, pattern books for my favorite crafts, etc. usually
 in pdf format. I have a book stand i secure to my pillow (along with a 
 magnifier and a
clip on light which attaches to my tripod pillow stand) which holds the
reader for easy reference (a bit heavier than a couple sheets of paper) but
i do have to use a rubber band to make sure it doesn't accidentally fall
off.
  

My email sends out an automatic  message. Arachne members,
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Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-19 Thread Lora Coldbeck
Hi everyone,
Im the first to admit shunning technology and think its ease of
use has had a negative effect of ability and concentration over the last
generation or so

So it may be surprising that I would never be parted from my
kindle, its again the lack of need for storage space, portability of entire
librarys . You dont have pages falling out from overuse its a handy way of
reading older books from archive.com and you can still highlight and make
notes, in fact my only problem with it is the lack of lace books available for
it in the uk! 

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Re: Fw: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-19 Thread Jenny Brandis
I use my android tablet to store and read books. I have become great friends 
with amazon, google books, ellorra's caven, the professor's site and the 
Gutenberg project! PDF how tos and manuals for gadgets get carried and my lace 
tutorials are on here too. Mills and  Boon light reading has a place and scans 
of lace books can inspire me while i wait for appointments.

My local library has just started to' lend' ebooks so even the library system 
is keeping up with literary trends :-)

I chose not to buy a reader on its own as they are generally dedicated to 
specific formats - this tablet can read PDF, TXT, EPUB, MOBI, DOC and some 
formats I have never needed. All in color 

Having said All that  i still have over 2000 novels and over 100 lace books in 
print format :-)

All up, a very happy reader.

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Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-19 Thread Bev Walker
Hello Jean and everyone

I like being able to share books, usually not possible with e-versions as
they want everyone to buy their own copy. When I've read something light,
it increases the value for me if I can pass the book along. I bought my
Kobo purely so I could borrow e-books from my local library online -
because of driving distance and the trouble it took to return paper books
 within the borrowing limit I was for quite awhile, an infrequent customer.
The e-book borrows simply vanish when time's up. The library embraces
reading in all dimensions and will loan the devices also.

I like paper books, and I like the option of virtual books. There are
pluses and minuses to both! Per Jean's remark about browsing, one can, and
it is fun, until the thing needs re-charging...
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Jean Nathan j...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk
 wrote:


 I've still got a lot of books on my book shelves, and I like getting
 distracted and thumb through them when I'm trying to find a particular lace
 pattern or idea as I have been in the past week. Can't imagine doing that
 on an e-reader.


-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-19 Thread Bronwen of Hindscroft
I live in an 800 sq ft, 2 bedroom apartment, that I share with my husband
and small dog.

We have 8 bookshelves full of books, along with 3 boxes of books in
storage.  And when I say full of books, I mean, double layer deep, with
books laying on the tops of other books.  We're going to have to weed out
some more books and put them in storage.

I have about 200 books living in my cloud or on my Kindle right now.
 That doesn't count the probably 200 books I got free or for $.99US to
$1.99US that I decided weren't worth the space on my shelves or in storage.
 I've even bought some lace books, and have downloaded some of the books
from the Professor's site, so I can even read about lace when I go out!

Although I do still pick up the paper versions of books from authors the
hubby and I really like, I tend to go for the e-version anymore.

The funny thing is, I'm one of those people who always said I'd NEVER get
an e-reader.  Conall gave me the Kindle last year for Mother's Day, and
it's become my most valuable toy.

Bronwen,
in sunny but cool Colorado

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Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-19 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Dear All,
I bought my Sony e-reader two years ago and I am happy I did. It's handy has a 
very long working batterie and lots of space for books with more than 700 pages.
This was the main reason I wanted one. I like not only to read I like 
literature and lots of books I like are very thick which became  a problem for 
my hands.
I will not read technical lace instructions or regard big picture-books on it. 
I want to have a light weighting thing with lots of books in it nothing more. 
And for this purpose it's wonderful.
Others have other reasons and requirements and therefore must think for 
themselves to find out what fits for them.
There are lots of possibilities.

Ilske

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[lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-19 Thread Jean Nathan
You've all left out the most important problem of owning an e-reader - where 
do you put your lace book mark?


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-19 Thread Bronwen of Hindscroft
Why not just make a lace cover? :)

Bronwen,
who has just added a project to her growing list of lace projects

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 You've all left out the most important problem of owning an e-reader -
 where do you put your lace book mark?

 Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK


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Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-19 Thread suebabbs385
On the cover - you make a lovely piece of lace for the front and another for 
the back



Sue

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Subject: [lace] books vs kindle

You've all left out the most important problem of owning an e-reader - where
do you put your lace book mark?

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-19 Thread Bev Walker
LOL...I put mine in a drawer 0:-)

On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Jean Nathan j...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk
 wrote:

 You've all left out the most important problem of owning an e-reader -
 where do you put your lace book mark?


I've seen knitted e-reader covers, should think of one made of lace!
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Shirley BC, near Sooke on a fine Victoria Day weekend, Vancouver Island,
west coast of Canada

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Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-19 Thread Ilske Thomsen
it's not a problem I don't have one. And the cat bookmarks are in the 
paper-books, I still read

Ilske


Am 19.05.2013 um 19:38 schrieb Jean Nathan:

 You've all left out the most important problem of owning an e-reader - where 
 do you put your lace book mark?
 
 Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 
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RE: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-19 Thread C Johnson
RE:  You've all left out the most important problem of owning an e-reader -
where do you put your lace book mark?

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


Hi Jean and lacemakers...

I could hand stitch it to the bag I put my e-reader in for safe keeping???

Then everyone could admire it.

Susie
Morris, IL

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Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-19 Thread Lin Hudren
I use my bookmarks in my craft books - which are the only treasurers i keep
in that format.  i convert patterns for projects for the reader, but i like
to have places marked for future projects - the lace bookmarks work
perfectly.  And i get a fond smile when i see them again.  a walk down
memory lane.



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Overton, NV USA

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Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-19 Thread Isabel Wear
Frame it.
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Subject: Re: [lace] books vs kindle

LOL...I put mine in a drawer 0:-)

On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Jean Nathan j...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk
 wrote:

 You've all left out the most important problem of owning an e-reader -
 where do you put your lace book mark?


I've seen knitted e-reader covers, should think of one made of lace!
-- 
Bev surrounded by a lot of paper diagrams, working on patchwork lace in
Shirley BC, near Sooke on a fine Victoria Day weekend, Vancouver Island,
west coast of Canada

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[lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-18 Thread d2oneill
How will the quotations change when we have only kindle editions? A room 
without books is like a body without a soul: When I get a little money I buy 
books: and if any is leftover I buy food and clothes. 


from Doris O'Neill , Chicago area. 

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Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-18 Thread lynrbailey
Dear Doris, et al, 
Personally, I doubt that anyone alive today will need to worry about living 
without books, because they are all some sort of electronic.  I usually choose 
paper books, but it must be admitted that a book or two on the phone is a 
comfort and space saver, especially ones I already have that are way, way 
outside the copyright laws.  Pride and Prejudice on my phone, Ruins of Lace is 
there, to see if I want to read it again before forking out any more money than 
less than a ride on the subway in New York.  

For the last 500 years, humankind has been dealing with paper books.  I don't 
think we've seen the end of those yet.  We may yet, but not right now.  And, 
who knows, maybe digital books are enticing those who don't read REAL books to 
read.  Only time will tell.  I do know that reference books are easier to use 
as books, and more reliable in a way.  Paper books don't crash. 

While libraries are wonderful, it is good to have certain books, Tolkein, Jane 
Austen, Harry Potter, those we read over and over, on the shelves.  It gives a 
sense of security.  And then there are the lace books, which libraries and 
digital books don't have, so you get them the old fashioned way.  Old fashioned 
can be very, very cool.  lrb

Doris wrote:
How will the quotations change when we have only kindle editions? A room 
without books is like a body without a soul: When I get a little money I buy 
books: and if any is leftover I buy food and clothes. 


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Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-18 Thread Lin Hudren
Hello All,

I am a full time RVer and am always looking for a new book to read.  I have
space and weight concerns.  my security blanket is a book.  to make room
for those extra pillows and bobbins, tatting shuttles and threads, etc., i
invested in an eReader (kindle keyboard) a bit over 2 years ago.  i was
able to replace all those stored books in epub or mobi format and have
purchased thousands of others.  i have about 45,000 books in my library
(stored on 12 DVDs).  i have a book no matter where i am.  since i read 6
or 7 books a week (entertainment), it was a blessing to be able to have so
many at my fingertips.  i wish i had had this technology many years ago.  i
have several lace books, pattern books for my favorite crafts, etc. usually
in pdf format.  the unit i purchased will handle these formats.  i can read
and have music playing in the background (mostly classics for the dedicated
reader) which cuts out road and other RVer's noises.  if i am tired of
reading i can enable the book from text to speech and listen with my eyes
closed (no music tho). the third blessing is that it has a built-in
dictionary which allows me to look up any words i am unfamiliar with - we
don't use our language to its fullest.

eReaders are not for everyone.  the one i purchased does not have a back
light so i can go for 2-3 months without having to charge it up as long as
i am conservative about the music.  i also am not exposing my eyes to blue
light which is now being discovered to be a problem.  i have to have light
on it like a regular paper book but the weight is so easy to hold for long
periods - much lighter than even a paperback book.  i do not have glare in
the outside daylight like my phone or xyboard so i can see better in
daylight and a light clipped onto it at night is great.

when i have a lace project, i can photograph the diagrams with my phone and
convert a collage of the pattern into a pdf document and load it onto the
eReader and carry that with me rather than a book.  i save wear and tear on
my books - i do have two boxes of lace books i refuse to give up.  maybe
some day i will scan those in and make them into a pdf documents to put on
the eReader.

last idea is that i carry this with me everywhere.  i do not carry a purse
or even a backpack any longer.  i have tummy pockets (like those on hooded
sweatshirts) on most of my shirts and it fits nicely in there.  i can
attach a earphone to it and listen to a book while i do yard work, ironing,
walking for exercise and even standing in line at the grocery store (no
bluetooth).  again, it is not for everyone but it sure has made my life
more pleasant and it keeps on giving.

enjoy everything you do and all the benefits our times allow us.  i don't
text on phones tho.  i can do email on the kindle keyboard with wifi
connection, but i use my xyboard, cell or computer for that.  i like a full
keyboard for typing.  Happy trails.

Hugs, Lin and the Mali
Overton, NV USA
And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more
painful than the risk it took to blossom. - Anais Nin


On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 4:25 PM, lynrbai...@desupernet.net wrote:

 Dear Doris, et al,
 Personally, I doubt that anyone alive today will need to worry about
 living without books, because they are all some sort of electronic.  I
 usually choose paper books, but it must be admitted that a book or two on
 the phone is a comfort and space saver, especially ones I already have that
 are way, way outside the copyright laws.  Pride and Prejudice on my phone,
 Ruins of Lace is there, to see if I want to read it again before forking
 out any more money than less than a ride on the subway in New York.

 For the last 500 years, humankind has been dealing with paper books.  I
 don't think we've seen the end of those yet.  We may yet, but not right
 now.  And, who knows, maybe digital books are enticing those who don't read
 REAL books to read.  Only time will tell.  I do know that reference books
 are easier to use as books, and more reliable in a way.  Paper books don't
 crash.

 While libraries are wonderful, it is good to have certain books, Tolkein,
 Jane Austen, Harry Potter, those we read over and over, on the shelves.  It
 gives a sense of security.  And then there are the lace books, which
 libraries and digital books don't have, so you get them the old fashioned
 way.  Old fashioned can be very, very cool.  lrb

 Doris wrote:
 How will the quotations change when we have only kindle editions? A room
 without books is like a body without a soul: When I get a little money I
 buy books: and if any is leftover I buy food and clothes.


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Re: [lace] books vs kindle

2013-05-18 Thread Lin Hudren
Sorry all,

I have a book stand i secure to my pillow (along with a magnifier and a
clip on light which attaches to my tripod pillow stand) which holds the
reader for easy reference (a bit heavier than a couple sheets of paper) but
i do have to use a rubber band to make sure it doesn't accidentally fall
off.

Hugs, Lin and the Mali


On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Lin Hudren linhud...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello All,

 I am a full time RVer and am always looking for a new book to read.  I
 have space and weight concerns.  my security blanket is a book.  to make
 room for those extra pillows and bobbins, tatting shuttles and threads,
 etc., i invested in an eReader (kindle keyboard) a bit over 2 years ago.  i
 was able to replace all those stored books in epub or mobi format and have
 purchased thousands of others.  i have about 45,000 books in my library
 (stored on 12 DVDs).  i have a book no matter where i am.  since i read 6
 or 7 books a week (entertainment), it was a blessing to be able to have so
 many at my fingertips.  i wish i had had this technology many years ago.  i
 have several lace books, pattern books for my favorite crafts, etc. usually
 in pdf format.  the unit i purchased will handle these formats.  i can read
 and have music playing in the background (mostly classics for the dedicated
 reader) which cuts out road and other RVer's noises.  if i am tired of
 reading i can enable the book from text to speech and listen with my eyes
 closed (no music tho). the third blessing is that it has a built-in
 dictionary which allows me to look up any words i am unfamiliar with - we
 don't use our language to its fullest.

 eReaders are not for everyone.  the one i purchased does not have a back
 light so i can go for 2-3 months without having to charge it up as long as
 i am conservative about the music.  i also am not exposing my eyes to blue
 light which is now being discovered to be a problem.  i have to have light
 on it like a regular paper book but the weight is so easy to hold for long
 periods - much lighter than even a paperback book.  i do not have glare in
 the outside daylight like my phone or xyboard so i can see better in
 daylight and a light clipped onto it at night is great.

 when i have a lace project, i can photograph the diagrams with my phone
 and convert a collage of the pattern into a pdf document and load it onto
 the eReader and carry that with me rather than a book.  i save wear and
 tear on my books - i do have two boxes of lace books i refuse to give up.
  maybe some day i will scan those in and make them into a pdf documents to
 put on the eReader.

 last idea is that i carry this with me everywhere.  i do not carry a purse
 or even a backpack any longer.  i have tummy pockets (like those on hooded
 sweatshirts) on most of my shirts and it fits nicely in there.  i can
 attach a earphone to it and listen to a book while i do yard work, ironing,
 walking for exercise and even standing in line at the grocery store (no
 bluetooth).  again, it is not for everyone but it sure has made my life
 more pleasant and it keeps on giving.

 enjoy everything you do and all the benefits our times allow us.  i don't
 text on phones tho.  i can do email on the kindle keyboard with wifi
 connection, but i use my xyboard, cell or computer for that.  i like a full
 keyboard for typing.  Happy trails.

 Hugs, Lin and the Mali
 Overton, NV USA
 And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more
 painful than the risk it took to blossom. - Anais Nin


 On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 4:25 PM, lynrbai...@desupernet.net wrote:

 Dear Doris, et al,
 Personally, I doubt that anyone alive today will need to worry about
 living without books, because they are all some sort of electronic.  I
 usually choose paper books, but it must be admitted that a book or two on
 the phone is a comfort and space saver, especially ones I already have
that
 are way, way outside the copyright laws.  Pride and Prejudice on my phone,
 Ruins of Lace is there, to see if I want to read it again before forking
 out any more money than less than a ride on the subway in New York.

 For the last 500 years, humankind has been dealing with paper books.  I
 don't think we've seen the end of those yet.  We may yet, but not right
 now.  And, who knows, maybe digital books are enticing those who don't
read
 REAL books to read.  Only time will tell.  I do know that reference books
 are easier to use as books, and more reliable in a way.  Paper books don't
 crash.

 While libraries are wonderful, it is good to have certain books, Tolkein,
 Jane Austen, Harry Potter, those we read over and over, on the shelves.
It
 gives a sense of security.  And then there are the lace books, which
 libraries and digital books don't have, so you get them the old fashioned
 way.  Old fashioned can be very, very cool.  lrb

 Doris wrote:
 How will the quotations change when we have only kindle editions? A
 room without books is like a body