[lace] pins and thorns
Hi Linda To get this tale by the tail, (sorry, couldn't resist that), we first need to find the earliest mentions of it, then we can understand the context, and the exact way in which the words were used. I still think there may be more to this than meets the eye . . . Just my thoughts, I was hoping that some of the Arachne members would have come across something. We are getting information and proof that thorns can be used for coarse lace, but are they in response to the 'old wives tale' giving the idea? I am finding the responses most interesting, but still no proof that the very fine lace could have been made this way. Thank you everyone Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] pins and thorns
I wonder if it wasn't an old wives' tale as such, but that someone saw a lacemaker using thorns or bones (BTW, having been stabbed by a sea bass bone I could see those being used!) and commented on it, this then being translated in gossip circles to lacemakers use bones/thorns instead of pins in much the same way that when needs must, we improvise with whatever is to hand... such as the occasion when a well known lacemaker was demonstrating at a major needlecraft fair (Steph P will remember!!!) using an empty biro as a bobbin... I wonder how many people went home from that show with the idea that lacemakers use biros for bobbins (when they haven't got a spare bobbin to hand)? In message F65FDC0A69AE41B898FB524635C80C8E@salex, Alex Stillwell alexstillw...@talktalk.net writes To get this tale by the tail, (sorry, couldn't resist that), we first need to find the earliest mentions of it, then we can understand the context, and the exact way in which the words were used. I still think there may be more to this than meets the eye . . . Just my thoughts, I was hoping that some of the Arachne members would have come across something. We are getting information and proof that thorns can be used for coarse lace, but are they in response to the 'old wives tale' giving the idea? -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] pins and thorns
On 21/05/2011 22:57, Alex Stillwell wrote: [snip] I think we have had plenty of evidence that thorns have been used as subsitutes for pins [snip] Sorry - I think I must have missed a bit among all these fascinating messages: so what was the original evidence for the kinds of things used where we would use metal pins? Where are they documented, please? Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., - hiding from yet another day of strong winds). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] pins and thorns
Hi Bev This article is producing some interestin observations. As I suggested, using thorns may only be folk lore and your observation would support that theory. The cactus thorns came up in another reply when I asked if anyone had used thorns for making lace. but I also doubt if they would have been readily available in Europe in the 17th century. Happy lacemaking Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] pins and thorns
Dear Arachnids Thank you for all the replies. I think we have had plenty of evidence that thorns have been used as subsitutes for pins and we have had some interesting comments about pins in general. I find these discussions are always enlightening. Long may Aachne last. Happy lacemaking Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
