Re: [lace] Smoke smell in books
Do check the fabric softener sheet before you let it touch the book. Put it on s piece of kitchen paper and see if it leaves a residue behind. Some leave a greasy or soapy residue L Kind Regards, Liz Baker On 29 Jun 2015, at 12:31, Cynce Williams cyncewilli...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Putting it in a bag with a fabric softener sheet might help. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Smoke smell in books
Putting it in a bag with a fabric softener sheet might help. Cynthia On Jun 28, 2015, at 10:14 PM, Malvary malva...@sympatico.ca wrote: Does anyone know of a cure for the smell of cigarette smoke which permeates books. I have one used book (no longer in print) which came with a very strong smell and in spite of trying onions, bicarbonate of soda, leaving it exposed to the outside air nothing has worked so far. Suggestions would be welcome Thanks Malvary in Ottawa where we had a very cool miserable autumn like day Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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I had some success with sealing a book in a ballooned plastic bag with a fridge odour remover pack for a month. Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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I have used white vinegar to freshen my carpet. While I would hesitate to spray any on the book itself, I wonder if leaving the book open near a bowl of white vinegar might help? I've also mixed a little baking soda to a larger amount of white vinegar with a couple of drops of mild essential oil (not perfume) and sprayed it on my carpets to freshen it and it seemed to work. I wouldn't put the oil near a book, but perhaps some of the baking soda in the bowl of vinegar and leave it near the open book? Just mix it over a sink since the vinegar and baking soda have such an explosive effect on one another! Liz in beautiful, sunny Missouri, USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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Hi all, I have used cedar clippings to help remove smoke smell from a piece of furniture that came from a smoking home. I put fresh clippings in a couple of time. It worked for this so I would put the book and cedar in an ziplock and try. Joan Sent from my iPad On Jun 29, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Liz and Ken Roberts lizke...@netscape.net wrote: I have used white vinegar to freshen my carpet. While I would hesitate to spray any on the book itself, I wonder if leaving the book open near a bowl of white vinegar might help? I've also mixed a little baking soda to a larger amount of white vinegar with a couple of drops of mild essential oil (not perfume) and sprayed it on my carpets to freshen it and it seemed to work. I wouldn't put the oil near a book, but perhaps some of the baking soda in the bowl of vinegar and leave it near the open book? Just mix it over a sink since the vinegar and baking soda have such an explosive effect on one another! Liz in beautiful, sunny Missouri, USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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It takes time and air. We had a used book that I was unable to use - I'm very sensitive to smoke. This was an expensive volume with many coated pages and color pictures but out of print. I laid it open on a stool in front of a fan. I flipped the pages to a new spot every time I passed. Eventually the smell faded. It's going to happen quicker if air is circulating over the pages rather than sitting closed on a shelf. I think it took a few months. (fan only ran in the daytime) I did spray it with Febreeze. It didn't seem to harm the book, but I won't swear that it sped up the process either. I don't think there are any instant fixes. The odor was absorbed into the paper and has to work its way back out. Judy in soggy S. Louisiana On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Malvary malva...@sympatico.ca wrote: Does anyone know of a cure for the smell of cigarette smoke which permeates books. I have one used book (no longer in print) which came with a very strong smell and in spite of trying onions, bicarbonate of soda, leaving it exposed to the outside air nothing has worked so far. Suggestions would be welcome Thanks Malvary in Ottawa where we had a very cool miserable autumn like day Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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I’ve already emailed Malvary privately, but thought I’d mention to the list that I found an online blog post from a library that removed smoke smell from books with something called Gonzo Odor Eliminator. According to the post it worked very well, and as this was a library treating their own books, I think it would be a fairly paper-safe procedure. (PS: don’t use vinegar on your books - they have enough troubles with acidity as it is) Home Depot’s website has this to say about how it works: The Gonzo 32 oz. Odor Eliminator For Homes Bag is designed to trap airborne odors and help keep your rooms smelling fresh. The odorless, non-toxic volcanic crystals have millions of surfaces and channels containing an electrical charge that acts as a magnet to attract and hold unpleasant airborne odors. The all-natural crystals are renewable and can continue to work for years. Environmentally safe and can be placed near pet odors, in basements, underneath car seats or in other areas in the home where lingering odors are a problem.” It’s not very expensive, and I think it’s worth a try. Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) On Jun 28, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Malvary malva...@sympatico.ca wrote: Does anyone know of a cure for the smell of cigarette smoke which permeates books. I have one used book (no longer in print) which came with a very strong smell and in spite of trying onions, bicarbonate of soda, leaving it exposed to the outside air nothing has worked so far. Suggestions would be welcome - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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There is nothing in my Conservation / Restoration books about smoke odors in books. But, I know that restoration experts are called in after a fire that leaves smoke and water damage on books in museum libraries. While looking at my rather large collection of Conservation / Restoration books, I found a warning about placing anything chemical directly on antique books Specifically, leather bound ones. The least invasive and logical advice given by a previous Arachne correspondent, would be opening a book and letting a fan feed the pages with clean air, though it will take some time. This way, you will not have impacted any of the chemicals used in manufacturing leather, wood pulp or rag paper, glues used in binding, and chemical inks. Forced airing also helps with mould odors. Here is what I do with those sweet-smelling cloths used in laundry dryers. Here in the country, mice invade the garage during mating season. They like to build nests under the car hood in colder weather, and they can do harm to the car's wiring. I put the cloths wherever in the car they will go without causing harm to the car: glove compartment, pockets built into doors, under floor mats, etc. The odor repels mice. An alternative has always been moth balls, but inhaling something sweet is much preferred. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Research Center In a message dated 6/29/2015 9:27:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, thelace...@btinternet.com writes: Do check the fabric softener sheet before you let it touch the book. Put it on s piece of kitchen paper and see if it leaves a residue behind. Some leave a greasy or soapy residue Liz Baker On 29 Jun 2015, at 12:31, Cynce Williams cyncewilli...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Putting it in a bag with a fabric softener sheet might help. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Smoke smell in books
My apologies for my predictive text which changed your name from Malvery to Malvern. I used to be a quite competent writer Kind Regards Liz Baker On 29 Jun 2015, at 08:18, The Lace Bee thelace...@btinternet.com wrote: Malvern, - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Smoke smell in books
Malvern, In the end the only thing that will get the smell out without damaging the book is time. We bought a book off amazon in 2004 and it started to smell normal about 2008. We had to keep it segregated from the other books as it smelt so strongly of smoke that it was infecting anything near it. In the end, hubby took it to work and left if on a shelf on it's own. L Kind Regards Liz Baker On 29 Jun 2015, at 04:14, Malvary malva...@sympatico.ca wrote: Does anyone know of a cure for the smell of cigarette smoke which permeates books. I have one used book (no longer in print) which came with a very strong smell and in spite of trying onions, bicarbonate of soda, leaving it exposed to the outside air nothing has worked so far. Suggestions would be welcome Thanks Malvary in Ottawa where we had a very cool miserable autumn like day Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Smoke smell in books
Hi Malvary, Beloved was an archivist for many years, and said most of the advice given is sound. Fresh air is the best. Keep the book open and flip the pages every few days. Make sure it's in a place that has low humidity. He liked the idea of the fan close by to keep the air moving. Another way is to put it in a closed container with a dish of baking soda or activated charcoal. Change the baking soda or activated charcoal regularly. Again, page flipping is recommended. I would be careful with herbs.lavender flowers can be slightly oily. Test the herbs by laying them on a piece of paper first. All of these take time and patience. Good luck! Peg - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Smoke smell in books
Does anyone know of a cure for the smell of cigarette smoke which permeates books. I have one used book (no longer in print) which came with a very strong smell and in spite of trying onions, bicarbonate of soda, leaving it exposed to the outside air nothing has worked so far. Suggestions would be welcome Thanks Malvary in Ottawa where we had a very cool miserable autumn like day Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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Thanks to all who have written both on and off the lists, there are a lot of good ideas to try. My first choice would be to air the book outside, but it's very wet and damp right now so that's not a good option this time of year. I will first try putting the book in a sealed plastic bag with a bounce dryer sheet. I'll let you all know what works best! Thanks again, Irene Whitham Surrey, BC - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello lacemakers, I just got a lace book in the mail that I purchased on ebay and it smells of smoke, is there anything I can do? Otherwise the book is great, I picture myself using a noseclip while making lace from this book! Irene Whitham Surrey, BC - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To use a tip mentioned on SmallStuff (for miniaturists) put your book in a bag where you have sprinkled a deep layer of cat litter and leave it there(changing cat litter from time to time) till smoke smell is gone. I inherited my mother in law's cookbook, and to be honest, I stopped using the book soon after I got it since every page seem to be steeped in the smell of smoke, haven't even had the inclination to try the tip mentioned above. Would love to know if it works then I might 'de-smoke' the cookbook too! Micki from the Scottish Highlands where the snow is slowly melting | Hello lacemakers, | | I just got a lace book in the mail that I purchased on ebay and it smells of | smoke, is there anything I can do? | | Otherwise the book is great, I picture myself using a noseclip while making | lace from this book! | | Irene Whitham | Surrey, BC | | - | To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: | unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I've also purchased books on eBay with smoke smells. I've had success putting the book in a zip top baggie large enough to hold it with a little room left over and putting in with it either an unused dryer softener sheet or a deodorant soap bar. I've also read online about using baking soda in the bag, but haven't tried it myself. -- Ruth Housework is what gets done when there's nothing better to do. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I tried baking soda in a ziplock bag, but it didn't work and then the pages got all powdery too. Eventually I threw the book away Sue - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Baking soda works a treat, especially if the scent from the deodorant bar or the dryer thingie aren't agreeable. or 20 Muleteam Borax - but don't get any on the pages. Best if you have a holder with a perforated lid. For books, you would want to flip pages from time to time to get out the embedded smell. On 3/7/06, Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've also purchased books on eBay with smoke smells. I've had success putting the book in a zip top baggie large enough to hold it with a little room left over and putting in with it either an unused dryer softener sheet or a deodorant soap bar. I've also read online about using baking soda in the bag, but haven't tried it myself. -- Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com blogging roller pillow at www.looonglace.blogspot.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have had the same problem from second hand books. I find a protected spot outside and leave the book out for several days opened, occassionally giving the pages a flick through and keeping an eye out on the weather and it seems to work well. Janette in Canberra Australia -Original Message- From: Whitham [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 8 March 2006 6:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[lace] smoke smell? Hello lacemakers, I just got a lace book in the mail that I purchased on ebay and it smells of smoke, is there anything I can do? Otherwise the book is great, I picture myself using a noseclip while making lace from this book! Irene Whitham Surrey, BC - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 3/03/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 3/03/2006 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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here is an address that opens a file that someone put together on smells in books. perhaps one of them will work. Christine Katy TX USA http://www.cgrove417.org/cghs/kasl/disaster/ridcigsmoke.doc - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I've had success a couple of times by standing the book upright with the pages fanned out in a cardboard box. Put one of the deodorant-type air freshener blocks that's supposed to absorb smells in the box, and wraping the whole lot in a large plastic bag. After about 8 weeks, the smell had gone from both the books I tried it with. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dear Irene, A method I have used with some success for getting rid of smells is to put the offending object into a black plastic bag, a fair amount of coffee grounds (dry, not used) and seal the bag up and put in the sunshine for a number of days. For books it takes longer because you have to open the bag, ruffle the pages so they are loose and close up again and leave out in the sunshine for several more days. If you keep at it long enough it might work for you. I suppose it depends on how much the book means to you. Something else you might consider doing is taking the book to the photo copy store or scan it at home and print out what you want to use and put the book in a plastic bag and leave on the shelf. Carol Melton Litchfield Park, Arizona, USA Where there has been no measureable precipitation since October 18, 2005. There is currently a 30% chance of sprinkles this weekend. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Irene, Try putting in a plastic zip lock with a piece of charcoal. I have also been told that for that old musty smell often found in old furniture to put cedar boughs in the cupboard or dresser. I wonder if it would work for the book. Joan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whitham Sent: March 7, 2006 2:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [lace] smoke smell? Hello lacemakers, I just got a lace book in the mail that I purchased on ebay and it smells of smoke, is there anything I can do? Otherwise the book is great, I picture myself using a noseclip while making lace from this book! Irene Whitham Surrey, BC - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think it was early last year, probably around March, I bought two books from the second hand stock at The Lace Guild's HQ. I remember that both of the books had a smoke smell when I bought them. I haven't done anything with them, other than sit them on the shelf, and came to check through one of them for something this week and couldn't detect any smell at all (we don't smoke, and our daughter who did has moved out, so I would notice it!). So possibly, all the book needs is a chance to get some fresh air! Regarding the use of deodorant sticks - don't use these in a closed environment. We used to use one of the gel block in a container type (can't remember what it was called) and (this is going back at least ten years) when the clothes in the dressing up box got musty (think they had been attacked with one of the mixtures that experimenting children come up with - playdoh etc!) I decided to try putting one of the blocks in with them to absorb the smells (it worked out in the open fine - usually needed when one of the cats had used the litter!) - this had the effect of concentrating the otherwise undetectable perfume of the gel, and the whole lot ended up worse than they started. When decorating, we use a freshly-cut-in-half onion to absorb the paint smells - that works well, it also helps you to breathe when your nose is blocked due to a cold! We also used it to freshen the room after my brother (who used to smoke a lot) had visited. Bicarbonate of Soda, in an eggcup, works well in the fridge, as does a solution of it with water to wash the inside of the fridge out. -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]