Re: [lace] Lace fans
On 31/12/2010 19:19, J-D Hammett wrote: [snip] Thank you for this suggestion:- Now and again there are good antique lace fans on eBay. [snip] That's a very good idea! I'll see if I can work out how the eBay site works and search for fans - I'd love to see them. With best wishes, Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
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> I too am a great fan of the Fan Museum in Greenwich. They pulled out all > the stops last year with an exhibition of lace fans to mark the OIDFA visit. > Over now, alas, but there are some pictures on their website: > www.fan-museum.org > Bridget, in Watford, England. Thank you, Bridget, not only have you given me an URL to keep and continue visiting - the URL for the museum has reminded me that *all* commercial venture URLs do not end in ".com" and that a "-" is an allowable character to use in an URL . . . Toni in Seattle - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Lace Fans
I too am a great fan of the Fan Museum in Greenwich. They pulled out all the stops last year with an exhibition of lace fans to mark the OIDFA visit. Over now, alas, but there are some pictures on their website: www.fan-museum.org go to Temporary Exhibitions - Exhibition Archive. The current exhibition is "A Fanfare for the Sun King from 3rd June until 21st September 2003. I don't know if there is any lace, I hav'nt seen it yet, but it should be spectacular. Bridget, in Watford, England. _ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Lace fans
Yep, I'm ordering one from him until I can get to a lace fair and buy one from Richard Gravestock Regards Liz Beecher Vivista Limited * www.vivista.co.uk/ * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Carol Adkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 July 2003 21:34 To: Sue Babbs; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [lace] Lace fans Hi All, I also am a great fan of Richard, but wonder if those of you mourning the fact that he doesn't send sharp objects out in the post have tried Richard Ives' Goodies. He does several prickers - the long slender ones, and the ones with a round globe-shaped handle - they are also beautifully made, and works of art! (He used to trade under the name of Jennrich Designs, if that rings any bells with you all, but now they are just Richard and Jenny Ives.) Take care of yourselves, Carol - in a very wet and stormy Suffolk, UK - Original Message - - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ This message has been checked for all known viruses on behalf of Vivista by MessageLabs. http://www.messagelabs.com or Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vivista formerly Securicor Information Systems for further information http://www.vivista.co.uk ** The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the individuals named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you should be aware that any dissemination, distribution, forwarding or other duplication of this communication is strictly prohibited. The views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual author and not necessarily those of Vivista Limited. Prior to taking any action based upon this e-mail message you should seek appropriate confirmation of its authenticity. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by using the e-mail reply facility. ** _ This message has been checked for all known viruses on behalf of Vivista by MessageLabs. http://www.messagelabs.com or Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vivista formerly Securicor Information Systems for further information http://www.vivista.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace fans
Hi All, I also am a great fan of Richard, but wonder if those of you mourning the fact that he doesn't send sharp objects out in the post have tried Richard Ives' Goodies. He does several prickers - the long slender ones, and the ones with a round globe-shaped handle - they are also beautifully made, and works of art! (He used to trade under the name of Jennrich Designs, if that rings any bells with you all, but now they are just Richard and Jenny Ives.) Take care of yourselves, Carol - in a very wet and stormy Suffolk, UK - Original Message - - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace fans
> Who is in mourning because her Richard Gravestock pricker has grown legs and > walked and she can't get another one. > Yes, I am really sad that he doesn't mail order prickers. His is by far the most comfortable one I have ever used, and I shall be distraught if I ever lose it Sue - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Lace fans
I spoke with Christine Springett at the Coventry fair, last year, and she confirmed that her fan mounting book was now, sadly, out of print. I know I have a copy somewhere in my storage but I can't find it so I was hoping someone would give a quick summary of Christine's method so I can mount my fan - so thanks Ann Regards Liz Beecher Who is in morning because her Richard Gravestock pricker has grown legs and walked and she can't get another one. -Original Message- From: ann DURANT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 July 2003 00:06 To: Ruth Budge; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [lace] Lace fans I've done about a dozen fans, and when it comes to mounting, each time, I find I have to refer to Christine Springett's book. I have 3 separate pleating plans - large, medium and small - which I have drawn up according to Christine's instructions - when I have completed the fan leaf I tack it to the pleating plan - I usually tack around the fan/plan 6 or 7 times before I am ready to pleat. These pieces of interfacing will last me for ever, I hope, so I won't have to make any more. I use wooden fan sticks - usually the ones done by Springetts - and I prime them before using them with diluted PVA glue, which I allow to dry. Then I stick the sticks to the lace with PVA. I made a bad mistake once, by glueing the stick to the wrong fold of a pleat, and didn't notice until it was finished and dried! I used a stiff bristled brush, and a little filtered water, and dabbed gently along the line of the stick until I could lift the lace off the stick, and I was able to relocate in the right place, so no harm done! Ann in Manchester, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ This message has been checked for all known viruses on behalf of Vivista by MessageLabs. http://www.messagelabs.com or Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vivista formerly Securicor Information Systems for further information http://www.vivista.co.uk ** The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the individuals named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you should be aware that any dissemination, distribution, forwarding or other duplication of this communication is strictly prohibited. The views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual author and not necessarily those of Vivista Limited. Prior to taking any action based upon this e-mail message you should seek appropriate confirmation of its authenticity. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by using the e-mail reply facility. ** _ This message has been checked for all known viruses on behalf of Vivista by MessageLabs. http://www.messagelabs.com or Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vivista formerly Securicor Information Systems for further information http://www.vivista.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace fans
I've done about a dozen fans, and when it comes to mounting, each time, I find I have to refer to Christine Springett's book. I have 3 separate pleating plans - large, medium and small - which I have drawn up according to Christine's instructions - when I have completed the fan leaf I tack it to the pleating plan - I usually tack around the fan/plan 6 or 7 times before I am ready to pleat. These pieces of interfacing will last me for ever, I hope, so I won't have to make any more. I use wooden fan sticks - usually the ones done by Springetts - and I prime them before using them with diluted PVA glue, which I allow to dry. Then I stick the sticks to the lace with PVA. I made a bad mistake once, by glueing the stick to the wrong fold of a pleat, and didn't notice until it was finished and dried! I used a stiff bristled brush, and a little filtered water, and dabbed gently along the line of the stick until I could lift the lace off the stick, and I was able to relocate in the right place, so no harm done! Ann in Manchester, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace fans - Let's Get Professional Advice
In a message dated 7/29/03 4:54:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << You're right - this book is exquisite! I bought a copy of it for my sister a couple of years ago, and now wish I had a copy myself. They sell it at the Fan Museum in Greenwich (London) for £30. Annette >> --- Dear Lacemakers, Perhaps the editor of The Lace Guild's bulletin is reading the memos on this subject, or someone will forward this note to her. Conservation begins with the process of selecting all the appropriate materials to be used in creating an item, like a fan. Fan makers in past centuries served a lengthy apprenticeship. Therefore, the methods have, in the case of exceptionally fine fans, been time-tested by professionals. May I recommend that someone who is conservation-minded in England write an article about lace fan mounts, and in the process of doing so - contact the Lace Museum and inquire if their conservator could be interviewed? Surely, they have the *most experience* as to what would be the preferred method for mounting a fan for a long safe life! They can explain how it was done in the past. There might be an opportunity to take close-up photos, without flash. They probably have a library about fans, and documentation about how they have been conserved or restored. Ideally, the article should list books on the subject of lace fans, including some that are rare. For the members of Arachne who are hearing about the Fan Museum for the first time, go to: http://www.fan-museum.org This is a delightful, off-the-beaten-path, small museum housed in a city mansion. I visited in 2001 with Sandra Arnold and Sue Hanson. (It occurs to me we have not heard from these lace experts for a long time.) At the time, the exhibit was Japanese fans. Quite lovely, but no lace. The space open to the public that day equalled about 3 rooms. Nice place to Christmas shop. One of the items they were selling as gifts was a tea towel on which lacy fans are printed. There were also nice handkerchiefs with tasteful embroidered fans in one corner. It is up to you to add the lace edging. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace fans books
In a message dated 7/29/03 4:54:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << You're right - this book is exquisite! I bought a copy of it for my sister a couple of years ago, and now wish I had a copy myself. They sell it at the Fan Museum in Greenwich (London) for £30. Annette >> - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace fans
Hello Jane, Christine Springett wrote an article "Designing and Mounting Lace Fans. It came out by the British College of Lace. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Jane, I have made several lace fans and usually use Ann Colliers method for attaching them to the sticks. See page 96 of her book 'Lace Fans' as well as most other of her books. Summarising she says this; Although most old fan sticks have holes, presumably for stitching, she has never seen an old fan which was stitched to the sticks. Ann uses PVA glue, but does not stick the lace directly to the sticks. Paint the glue onto the sticks and let it 'go off' (dry clear). Then place the lace onto the sticks, spreading it out and arranging them where you want them, and iron the lace onto the sticks, using a medium heat and a cover cloth. It works. Then loosely fold the sticks and lace and keep them in place for 24 hours with a rubber band. This does not make sharp folds which can sometimes spoil the lace design. Jean in Cleveland U.K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 09:16 PM, Jane Partridge wrote: In general email chatter to Deborah (Robinson), I suggested that an article on mounting fans would be useful - - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace fans
Jane, Christine Springett's little book, I think called "Designing and mounting Lace Fans" is a basic guide to this process. Fountains sell a pleating plan to suit the large fan patterns sold by them (and, at least some years ago anyway, the small fans used to include the pleating plan.) The idea is that the plan is traced onto non-stick interfacing, the lace is then tacked onto the interfacing and you use the lines drawn on the interfacing as a guide as to where to press the lace into pleats. The lace is then removed from the interfacing, and stuck to the fan sticks. The interfacing shouldn't be too heavy as that makes it difficult to see the lines you've drawn on it, and also makes pressing the pleats difficult. I use light weight interfacing myself. Christine does indeed suggest using a water-soluble wall paper paste, thinned a bit...however, out here, I found my fans were all coming off the sticks. By the time I'd remounted one fan three times I decided that in the heat and humidity of a Sydney summer, the wall paper paste is not the answer. I've since started using a water-soluble craft glue. Regards, Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) --- Jane Partridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some time ago we were talking about grids for fans - my copy of "Lace" > arrived this morning, and there is a grid on the green pages, as Deborah > promised. > > In general email chatter to Deborah (Robinson), I suggested that an > article on mounting fans would be useful - I have one student with a > completed fan to mount (but not exactly urgently; she has decided to do > something else for the show in a fortnight's time... phew!!!), another > with one in progress, and having never really had the urge to make one > myself I did find a couple of suggestions - or rather, hints on how > to - in some old Lace Guild magazines, (couldn't see anything at all in > the old copies of "The Lacemaker" that I have, but I probably gave up > faster out of frustration of there being no contents page) but no real > "this is how to go about it" instruction. I think the bits that have > stuck in my memory must have been from old Arachne discussions! > > Any tips in the meantime would be welcomed. I know that Christine > Springett somewhere or other mentions wallpaper paste - and my instinct > was to steer clear of glue; but then I found an article about a fan made > as a City & Guilds part 2 project in which advice was sought from > Jacqueline Hyman (a UK conservation expert) who, as the lacemaker wanted > to use glue, recommended PVA. One set of instructions my (completed > fan) student has is a little confusing, saying to trace the stick plan > onto sew-in interfacing and to tack (baste) the lace to it - there is no > reference either to the type (ie light, medium or firm) of interfacing > to buy, or as to whether or not it is to be removed before mounting! I > assume it is used to help the lace to form into the folds required. (I > can't remember if this is on a pattern she has recently purchased, with > fan sticks, from Fountains, or on the pattern she used to start with.) > > Anyway, Deborah has asked me to pass on the following query (she doesn't > have time to keep up with the list at the moment) - if any UK (or > elsewhere) Arachnes can help, you can either reply to me or to Deborah > herself at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thanks. > --- Forwarded message follows --- > Could you ask on > Arachne if anyone knows the whereabouts of Sue Godsmark, formerly of Essex? > Ann > Allison sent me a photo of a peacock fan that she made as an adaptation of > SG's > pattern that was sold in aid of the Essex Cancer Scanner Fund about 20 years > ago. > She's a lapsed member of the LG. My letter to her was returned by the PO, but > we > think she's still alive. > > > > -- > Jane Partridge > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://personals.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Personals - New people, new possibilities! Try Yahoo! Personals, FREE for a limited period! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace fans
Dear Lacemakers, For Inspiration -- a drop-dead fantastically beautiful book of antique lace fans, I refer you all to: "Ventagli della collezione Cesari" by Franco Maria Ricci, 1999, ISBN 88-216-0947-2, about $40. It is over-sized and comes boxed. In Italian, but has English and French translations in the back. Pictures of the fans are full-size or larger. If you are making a fan for an exhibition or contest, I urge you to try to borrow this book through the InterLibrary Loan program in your country. (May be called by a different name.) Ask your local librarian to obtain it for you. You will not be disappointed. Promise. If anyone needs to look at this at the IOLI convention, let me know by Wednesday, and I will put it in my closet on wheels (automobile). Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
