Re: [lace] Mystery lace

2020-05-22 Thread Adele Shaak
Speaking from a design standpoint, I really like the way those figures that are 
outlined in braid and then filled in with half stitch add scattered opaque 
spots to the lace. Looking at the picture of the whole piece, they really do 
look like snowflakes! 

Adele 
West Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)

> On May 22, 2020, at 3:04 AM, Jean Leader  wrote:
> 
> Well, if you look at Joseph Seguin’s La Dentelle (avaiable on the Arizona 
> site) Plate XXXVI you might call it Guipure Façon Angleterre, or Guipure 
> Anglaise.They both have the same coiled ground and one of them also has 
> cucumber tallies.
> 
> Allhallows Museum Honiton has two flounces with this coiled ground which 
> Santina Levey reckoned were English therefore Honiton late 17th C. They are 
> illustrated in John Yallop’s ‘The History of the Honiton Lace Industry’ (the 
> book is his PhD thesis and he was the honorary curator at AllHallows).  The 
> Glasgow Museums lace collection also has two pieces with this coiled ground, 
> one of which is very similar to one of the Honiton pieces. Back in 1993 John 
> Yallop told me that the use of the coiled ground is associated with Flanders 
> around 1700 but it may be found at much later dates in Eastern Europe.
> 
> Jean in grey Glasgow

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Re: [lace] Mystery lace

2020-05-22 Thread Jean Leader
Well, if you look at Joseph Seguin’s La Dentelle (avaiable on the Arizona site) 
Plate XXXVI you might call it Guipure Façon Angleterre, or Guipure 
Anglaise.They both have the same coiled ground and one of them also has 
cucumber tallies.

Allhallows Museum Honiton has two flounces with this coiled ground which 
Santina Levey reckoned were English therefore Honiton late 17th C. They are 
illustrated in John Yallop’s ‘The History of the Honiton Lace Industry’ (the 
book is his PhD thesis and he was the honorary curator at AllHallows).  The 
Glasgow Museums lace collection also has two pieces with this coiled ground, 
one of which is very similar to one of the Honiton pieces. Back in 1993 John 
Yallop told me that the use of the coiled ground is associated with Flanders 
around 1700 but it may be found at much later dates in Eastern Europe.

Jean in grey Glasgow

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Jean Leader
www.jeanleader.net


> On 21 May 2020, at 22:18, Devon Thein  wrote:
> 
> What would you call the lace I just posted on
> http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history ?
> 

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Re: [lace] Mystery lace

2020-05-21 Thread Beth McCasland
Devon,
Fascinating, crazy piece of tape lace - or at least that's what I'd call
it.  Which is likely not the answer you really wanted.  I wish we could
flip it over and see the other side.

Beth McCasland
In rainy/sunny/cloudy Seattle Washington

On Thu, May 21, 2020, 2:31 PM Devon Thein  wrote:

> What would you call the lace I just posted on
> http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history ?
>

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Re: [lace] Mystery lace

2020-05-21 Thread Alice Howell
 Hungarian.  See"The Art of Lace-making in Hungary" by Maria Csernyanszky,
Corvina Press,1962. Budapest.Pictures starting page 51.  Details starting
page 53.  "Lace with Noue (looped) Ornamentation.
According to the book, this type of lace may be traced to Flanders, Brussels,
and then centered in old Hungarian bobbin lace.  In some pieces it was used
for ground, and in others was also used in the pattern.  Samples of the lace
vary from highly skilled to fairly coarse.
I have several pieces of this type of lace in my collection and was
intrigued.  Somewhere in my books I have a modern pattern using this
technique that's on my long list of 'someday'.

Alice in Oregon -- where I'm hanging out at home doing all kinds of
projects.  Just finished making a lace hat.  Don't know when or where I'll
wear it.  Next project is a lamp shade.  Weather is chilly and often damp. 
I try to catch the sunny bits to work outdoors.
On Thursday, May 21, 2020, 2:30:53 PM PDT, Devon Thein
 wrote:

 What would you call the lace I just posted on
http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history ?

Devon

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Re: [lace] mystery lace

2008-02-07 Thread Brenda Paternoster

Hi Sharon

As Clay said,  go to http://www.bart-francis.be/
then click on 'online Webshop'
then choose your language.

Currently you'll get a big message about the server being down for a 
few days but the catalogue is still there; it's the  long list of 
different threads down the left hand side of the page.


Francis' native language is Flemish/Dutch.  I don't know how well he 
speaks/reads French or German but he speaks very good English.  
Although some his English spelling is a bit quaint it's quite 
understandable and there is a lot of useful info on the site as well as 
the catalogue.


Wow, I'm blown away..240/2 thread?  I must have some if only to look 
at :) Guess I don't get enough catalogues :( Brenda..would you be so 
kind as to post the addy (e-mail or otherwise) of the supplier Bart 
and Francis? Thanks. Sharon on sunny but cold and icey Vancouver 
Island


Brenda in Allhallows, Kent
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html

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