[lace] straight v diagonal update
Hi there You have all been very patient with my questions about grids and the differences between straight and diagonal etc. Finally a light bulb went off and the results are viewable at http://www.brandis.com.au/craft/lace/grids.html Maybe, just maybe, my questions and your answers will make sense to someone else. :) Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.brandis.com.au/craft/lace.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace with paper strings revisited comment
Janice wrote: Maybe Jean or Alice could take a picture and put it in webshots or somewhere that we could all see it for those of us who are challenged with visualisation. Sounds intriguing. I'll put it on the webshots as soon as I've finished unravelling the strings to make the petals and leaves. Did about half last night and went to bed with a very painful shoulder - it's quite fiddly. Hope to get the rest done today. The mounting went very smoothly running a double thread through every fourth edge loop and through the holes in the frame. I intend to make another one of the series, but I'll reduce the pricking a fraction. Although the one I did is nice and taught inside the fram, it fits right up to the frame on the inside. I think I'd like a small gap as shown in the pictures of the finished ones in the book. The frame is thicker than the ones in the book, but it looks fine. I couldnlt fine anything ready-made that would suit. I'd need to be a lot better at woodwork (or DH would need to be) to make the kind of frame in the book, which slots together rather like those three-tiered small ornament shelves that were popular in the 1960s. DH is fine with metal because, if he makes a mistake, he can weld a bit back on, but he can't do that with wood!! Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Design Programs
hello all, I am thinking of buying a design program and would like some info to help me decide which to buy. I am looking at lace 2000 of knipling. would anybody who uses either of these programs give me some feedback on them please. linda - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Question re Old Toender Pricking
Hello David, Sorry but I am not sure what I shall see. There are a few dotts abave and than some rows with a space in the middle and always two dots. Could you take a foto and create a foto album and there we see the pricking itself. Ilske from grey, grey Hamburg in Germany - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Design Software
Linda wrote: hello all, I am thinking of buying a design program and would like some info to help me decide which to buy. I am looking at lace 2000 of knipling. would anybody who uses either of these programs give me some feedback on them please. If you go to the Arachne mail archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/maillist.html#03505 and type Lace 2000 in the search box, you'll see all the discussions we've had on this program - 10 pages of them - the most recent being in August 2006. Do the same searching for Knipling - that has been discussed too. It's worth looking at the archive because people might not now remember everything they said about each program and something important might be missed. Any soecific questions, please ask. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Sunflower from 'Lace with Paper Strings'
I've just uploaded my sunflower from Eva Kortelahti's 'Lace with Paper Strings' to my album on Arachne webshots. Shows the mounting very well. The petals and leaves still need a bit of smoothing, but my fingers have gone on strike for now. I chose to use yellow for the petals rather than the orange shown in the book. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Sunflower from 'Lace with Paper Strings'
Lovely Jean, the Siesta frame has worked well. Was it difficult to drill holes through the bars? I've only worked a couple of the butterflies from Kortelahti's book and found it quite a fiddle opening out the paper string. The square framed pictures are on my to do list one day. Eve London, UK. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Sunflower from 'Lace with Paper Strings'
Very easy. The wood's quite soft and easy to sand any rough bits off. I placed the frame against thepricking to mark where I wanted the holes (every 4th loop on the edging) and then used a bradawl to make an indent to guide the drill. Used a mini handheld electric drill with a reasonable sized bit so that a needle could be passed both ways and without snagging the thread already there on the way from the inside to the outside. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - Original Message - From: Eve Morton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lace@arachne.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Sunflower from 'Lace with Paper Strings' Lovely Jean, the Siesta frame has worked well. Was it difficult to drill holes through the bars? I've only worked a couple of the butterflies from Kortelahti's book and found it quite a fiddle opening out the paper string. The square framed pictures are on my to do list one day. Eve London, UK. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Sunflower from 'Lace with Paper Strings'
I've just uploaded my sunflower from Eva Kortelahti's 'Lace with Paper Strings' to my album on Arachne webshots. Shows the mounting very well. The petals and leaves still need a bit of smoothing, but my fingers have gone on strike for now. I chose to use yellow for the petals rather than the orange shown in the book. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK just in case anyone needs the link http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2837073670048870129eFJRjo lovely sunflower Jean, makes me think of summer jenny barron NE Scotland - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Design Programs
My short answer is - Lace 2000 will likely be more accessible to you. Knipling is a powerful program and you do have to buy the demo version from the publisher in Germany. As to use - I have tried both and L-2K was easier to use for me. If I was more familiar with CAD programs, then Knipling would be my choice. My personal favourite, and I use it as easily as pencil and paper, is Easy Lace. You can check out Jo's excellent précis of lace software here: http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/SoftKlos-EN.html decide which to buy. I am looking at lace 2000 of knipling. would anybody who -- Bev peaking out from yet another storm in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Question re Old Toender Pricking
David emailed a scan of the portion of his pricking that he is asking about. Here's the URL: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/tonderdetail.jpg I'll be interested to hear what other ideas we can come up with for the treatment of the center of the flower. Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Dear Friends, I am spending a couple of days preparing an old Toender pricking which I've had for some years. This is a beautiful edging just over 3 deep and I am told was of lace which belonged to a Comtesse Ahlefedt-Laurvigen - there are a number of possibilities from which to choose. There are no working diagrams - just the dots. Thank goodness the gimp lines are there. I can easily figure out all the point ground areas, honeycomb, leaves etc. However, there is one area which is worrying me. It's difficult to describe verbally, but it you can imagine a large-ish circular flower of 8 petals. The central circle is about 1 in diameter. It is the dots inside this central area that I need help with. They are simply arranged in parallel lines like this: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . What would you recommend doing with them?? David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Question re Old Toender Pricking
From: Barbara Joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] David emailed a scan of the portion of his pricking that he is asking about. As shown in Barbara's website, it does look like pinchain. However, from David's description, I wonder if the picture isn't rotated 90 degrees. It sounded to me like the lines of pinholes were horizontal, not vertical. Personally, I'd ignore the dots and fill the center with halfstitch. I don't think lines of pinchain are an appropriate filling for the disk of a sunflower--the tiny flowers of the disk are arranged in spirals. I think half-stitch would look good in there, even if it's not traditional Tonder that way. Thanks for posting it so we could see it. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA (formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Question re Old Toender Pricking
Hi David, I went through my Tonder patterns and books. I found a pattern that had a grid of dots that I think matches what you described. The dots are parallel to, and spaced the same as, the dots along the edge row on the pattern. The picture and diagram show a snowflake ground. Looking at the grid like a checkerboard with the pins at the corners, the black squares had round snowflakes made with four pair, and the white squares just had two pair crossing in the middle. I'm looking at a pattern from 'Onder de loep' by Nora Andries. It's a pack of one book and two packets of patterns. This is pattern 37 from Patronen II. Maybe someone who also has this book can scan and send you a copy of that part of the diagram. It's the middle leaf, right on the fold, that I'm referring to. Detail 'p'. By the way, I did find half stitch used to fill the center of some flowers, but the patterns just had a ring of pinholes surrounding the area. Best wishes for your lace, Alice in Oregon -- with a steady downpour all day. I'm tired of rain. --- David in Ballarat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are no working diagrams - just the dots. Thank goodness the gimp lines are there. I can easily figure out all the point ground areas, honeycomb, leaves etc. However, there is one area which is worrying me. It's difficult to describe verbally, but it you can imagine a large-ish circular flower of 8 petals. The central circle is about 1 in diameter. It is the dots inside this central area that I need help with. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Sunflower from 'Lace with Paper Strings'
Jean, A very nice framing job! My late mum would have loved your work as sunflowers were her favorite flower! Great work! Nice to hear of new ideas for finishing off lace other than in a regular frame. I have a Kortelati pattern of violets that I've always been meaning to make and now I have a great idea on how to finish it off. Now to find the time to make lace! Trish in rainy West Virginia USA where it's finally getting colder! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] straight v diagonal update
Oh No! lol, just when I was feeling so good about my maths :) Oh well, back to the ruler and this time I do better - I promise :) Everyone, pls disregard the table at the bottom of my webpage for the few hours until I can update it with accurate info. Thank you Brenda for bringing it to my attention so quickly - hopefully I have not given a bum steer to anyone else yet. Jenny B in Noisy (cicada) Kununurra, Western Australia At 05:07 AM 8/01/2007, Brenda Paternoster wrote: Hi Jenny Glad the penny's dropped for you. Just one thing - when you said (on the web page) Now that I finally got my head around that it was a simple case of measuring to see the distances between dot A and dot B. I however chose to measure over a distance of 10 dots and divided by 10 to give me a more precise measurement. You measured 10 gaps, ie dot 1 along to dot 11 and not the distance along 10 dots. The table from page 8 of Threads for Lace is also to be found at http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/threadsize/threadsize.html Brenda You have all been very patient with my questions about grids and the differences between straight and diagonal etc. Finally a light bulb went off and the results are viewable at http://www.brandis.com.au/craft/lace/grids.html Maybe, just maybe, my questions and your answers will make sense to someone else. :) Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/618 - Release Date: 1/6/2007 7:47 PM - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] new person wishing to join Arachne.
Hi, I have been informed that Irma Osterman wishes to become part of the Arachne list. I sent what little information I had about subscribing but she had no luck with that. I sent these two address's: To subscribe/unsubscribe, requests should be sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If this doesn't work, then try; [EMAIL PROTECTED] She said she had a Mac computer and was wondering if that had anything to do with it. Can someone send me the correct information on how to join the group, please. Thank you in advance. Patsy A. Goodman karpap#cox.net (change # to @) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Patterns' sending -- help?
Gentle Spiders, So, I've started to to send out some patterns (several aren't ready for sending out yet; be patient if you haven't heard from me) and ran into trouble. Not with the scanning part -- that seems to be working just fine. It's the text that's a problem. I don't want to send the text as a scan attachment; not only is it less clear but it gulps Megabytes like there was no tomorrow, quite unnecessarily. I want to send the text as a document. Trouble is, my (Mac OSX) documents give the Windows-driven 'puters (majority) hissy fits of heroic proportions, same as my Mac absolutely refuses to deal with things like pps files (it tells me to save it, presumably for further twiddling elsewhere and rests on its laurels, confident that I won't have a clue how to do it and will give up) I've been told I need to convert my documents into something the rest of you can read... I am willing to try (though feel more compassion for Job than ever g) but, given my own 'puter-ignorance, it ain't gonna be easy and I need y'all's help again. My Mac has the possibility of converting to several diffrent, system-specific documents. For example, when I e-mail my instructions to Debra Jenny (the IOLI Bulletin editor), I send them in a Word Windows XP 2002 format (which is supposed to be good also for Word Windows 97 and 2000). My other options are a few older Mac-ways (earlier Appleworks, Claris, and two Word Macs -- 6 and 98/2000), Word Windows 6, 95, and 3 others: HTML, RTF and Text. The person who told me I had to convert Mac documents into Windows documents said to use Text (well, she said use really simple text, but that's WIndows-speak that Mac doesn't understand g). But, when I sent converted-to-Text file to the person who couldn't open the Mac document, she said her puter rejected it even faster :) We ended up with my sending her the XP conversion, which she then took into something like workpad for clean-up and managed to get the text all printed out nicely. But I wonder if there's a better way? One where a single Mac-conversion would work for every Windows user? Because my Mac... he seems to think he's lowering his standards already to make (and give houseroom to) *one* conversion. I have to remove *that* conversion (a pain in the neck as, for some reason, I can't simply drag it to trash from the Appleworks document library; I have to access it through a diffrent route), before I'm allowed to make another one. I kind-a agree with Mac -- since every new conversion is another duplicate of the original document, one is more than enough -- but that doesn't solve my problem. Unless I find a single method of sending files to all Windows-users, I'll be doing nothing but converting, removing, converting to something else and removing again before making yet another conversion... Time-wise and effort-wise it just isn't on the cards, at least not long term. For the moment, I'll try to remember to ask everyone what sort of set up they have and hope the conversion works but, in the long run, that's not an efficient way of doing things. Any suggestions? PS I notice, in the new IOLI directory, in the Guidelines for submitting articles to the Bulletin the following: if appending a file, please send in text or RTF format. Well, the Text file, Mac-version, was a bomb with at least one user. The Mac-version of RTF (WTF *is* RTF, anyway?)... When I tried it on Debra, a couple of years ago, she said she had problems with *it*, too, which is why we switched to the Word Windows XP. So I have little hope for the HTML option (plus I have a dislike of spending 120 KB for a message which, in plain text, needs about 5) but, if y'all think *that* would work... -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Robyn - Question re Old Toender Pricking
Robyn, Personally, I'd ignore the dots and fill the center with halfstitch. I don't think lines of pinchain are an appropriate filling for the disk of a sunflower--the tiny flowers of the disk are arranged in spirals. I think half-stitch would look good in there, even if it's not traditional Tonder that way. I could do that. However, not being an absolute purist myself, I tend to make these sorts of prickings into something more like Chantilly, in which case, I shall definitely be using half-stitch fillings for the petals (so much more forgiving than whole-stitch). Ilske has kindly sent me a number of fillings that would be accommodated by these dots. I had already considered square tallies. But there are already quite a lot of leaf tallies in the pricking, and frankly, I was hoping to avoid any more :) David - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: new person wishing to join Arachne.
On Jan 7, 2007, at 20:13, Patsy A. Goodman wrote: Hi, I have been informed that Irma Osterman wishes to become part of the Arachne list. I sent what little information I had about subscribing but she had no luck with that. I sent these two address's: To subscribe/unsubscribe, requests should be sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If this doesn't work, then try; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, the second one is the first way to go. The instructions for unsubscribing are below every message posted here: To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For subscribing, replace unsubscribe with subscribe in your message. Me, being a compu-idiot and a lazy one at that, I use the other bit of info included with every posted message: For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I write Avital whenever I need to check out or back in, she waves her magic wand and presto! :) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Question re Old Toender Pricking
On Jan 7, 2007, at 14:11, Barbara Joyce wrote: David emailed a scan of the portion of his pricking that he is asking about. Here's the URL: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/tonderdetail.jpg I have finally managed to dig through enough tasks to take a peek at the pricking and recognized the arrangement of the dots immediately, because the book had been sitting at my kitchen table for a week now -- I'm thinking of using that filling in a pattern of my own, and have been slowly digesting it with my breakfast bagels :) The book is Parijse Kant, by Jan Geelen. So this filling may not be *the* filling meant for that particular pricking, since Tönder is a Point Ground lace. But it's, definitely, an option and would, probably, look quite nice with h.st petals (in the book, it's used as a centre of a flower also, but the petals are in cl.st). These little do-dads *might* be the little snowflakes that Alice was talking about; can't be sure, since I don't have the book she found them in. Nor can I read the text in my book -- it's all Dutch to me :) Anyway, I'll take Barbara at her word: I'll be interested to hear what other ideas we can come up with for the treatment of the center of the flower. and presume on her generosity. I'll send her a scan (hurrah for Christmas gifts to self g) of the relevant bits and hope she can post them on the same page, next to the pricking, as one possible solution to David's problem, for everyone to see. I'll CC the scan to David directly, too. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] new person wishing to join Arachne.
Send me her address and I'll subscribe her. At the bottom of every message there are instructions for subscribing/unsubscribing and an address to write to for help. I check the arachne moderator account every Sunday. If someone has problems subscribing, it's best to ask them to get in touch with me, rather than trying to help them yourself. (The most common problem when subscribing is that people ignore the confirmation instructions that they receive after sending the request.) Avital Arachne moderator I have been informed that Irma Osterman wishes to become part of the Arachne list. I sent what little information I had about subscribing but she had no luck with that. I sent these two address's: To subscribe/unsubscribe, requests should be sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If this doesn't work, then try; [EMAIL PROTECTED] She said she had a Mac computer and was wondering if that had anything to do with it. Can someone send me the correct information on how to join the group, please. Thank you in advance. Patsy A. Goodman karpap#cox.net (change # to @) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Patterns' sending -- help?
Tamara P Duvall wrote: But I wonder if there's a better way? One where a single Mac-conversion would work for every Windows user? It's called plain text, otherwise known as ASCII (American Standard Code for Information Interchange.) (Middle of that translation very doubtful, but that's the general idea.) (The A is why ASCII lacks several dozen essential characters, which causes very queer spellings on Usenet.) Every word processor worthy of not being flung off a tall building can save in plain ASCII. But most of them, if given half a chance will say Aw, but just so it won't be *completely* plain . . . (WTF *is* RTF, anyway?) Microsoft's way of saying Aw, but just so it won't be *completely* plain . . . RTF never stands for the same thing twice. Do not use RTF for any purpose. So I have little hope for the HTML option (plus I have a dislike of spending 120 KB for a message which, in plain text, needs about 5) but, if y'all think *that* would work... Hypertext was *supposed* to be plain text with a very few codes added -- p to mark the beginning of a paragraph, for example. But machine-generated HTML is almost certainly one of the bastard programs that try to integrate hypertext with graphic design -- hence the enormous expansion of the file size. But it would *probably* work. Afterthought: I went back to your message, clicked on view source -- and it's ASCII! Have you tried pasting the text into an e-mail? -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange http://www.timeswrsw.com/craig/cam/ (local weather) west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where there were flakes of snow among the rain. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Patterns' sending -- help?
On Jan 8, 2007, at 0:16, Joy Beeson wrote: Have you tried pasting the text into an e-mail? VBG That seems to be a worth trying consensus. I have not tried it yet on this round because, like the RTF, it had gummed up the works for Debra all those years ago. My *e-mail* is set to plain text; my Appleworks writing program is set to who the heck knows?. When I copy and paste from it into an e-mail, I lose some things, like underline, bold, italics. I could live with that (though not happily; such losses in my everyday breathless prose are piddling but when I want people to remember to do something just so... They loom g). What I have more trouble living with is both -- losing the expression *and* adding wiggles which don't show up on my screen but pop up, like malignant gremlins, on other people's... OTOH It had been 2 yrs ago... Things have changed since (updates happened), so, who knows... :) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Patterns' sending -- help?
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[lace-chat] Custody drama
David wrote: After two recesses to check legal references and confer with child welfare officials, the judge granted temporary custody to the English cricket Team, whom the boy firmly believes are not capable of beating anyone. How very true, but hopefully the word English will be replaced by Australian next yearb - but I doubt it unless the selectors can start seeing beyond the ends of their noses. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] 1911 Census Info
Hello Jean One of my family history group emails, long deleted, suggested that it will be the bits about disablility or mental incapacity that will be withheld until January 2112. From http://www.1911census.info/ there's a link to http://www.yourfamilytreemag.co.uk/resources/yft/1911page.jpg which shows an actual page from the census. The info in the column headed Infirmity appears to have a label marked Neither confirm or deny placed over it. I guess that's what will be withheld until the full 100 years is up. Brenda On 7 Jan 2007, at 12:11, Jean Peach wrote: It seems because of the Freedom of Information Act the powers to be have decided to Release the 1911 census in 1909. They will be with holding sensitive information. Who knows what that means. Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace-chat] Custody Drama
Ouch!!! That hurt David. Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David in Ballarat Sent: 07 January 2007 01:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [lace-chat] Custody Drama Custody drama Federal Court Ruling from the Melbourne Age, Australia (AP) - A seven year old boy was at the centre of a courtroom drama yesterday when he challenged a court ruling over who should have custody of him. The boy has a history of being beaten by his parents and the judge initially awarded custody to his aunt, in keeping with the child custody law and regulations requiring that family unity be maintained to the degree possible The boy surprised the court when he proclaimed that his aunt beat him more than his parents and he adamantly refused to live with her. When the judge suggested that he live with his grandparents, the boy cried out that they also beat him. After considering the remainder of the immediate family and learning that domestic violence was apparently a way of life among them, the judge took the unprecedented step of allowing the boy to propose who should have custody of him. After two recesses to check legal references and confer with child welfare officials, the judge granted temporary custody to the English cricket Team, whom the boy firmly believes are not capable of beating anyone. David in Ballarat To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.3/614 - Release Date: 02/01/2007 14:58 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.3/614 - Release Date: 02/01/2007 14:58 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Milada Marshall
Fellow Spiders, please excuse me for using the site this way. Milada Marshall please could you contact me, as I have lost your phone number. Thank you Rosemary Wet windy Somerset. UK. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Martha versus Muriel
I'm with Muriel *Martha's Way* Stuff a miniature marshmallow in the bottom of a sugar cone to prevent ice cream drips. *Muriel's Way * Just suck the ice cream out of the bottom of the cone, for Pete's sake! You are probably lying on the couch with your feet up eating it, anyway! Martha To keep potatoes from budding, place an apple in the bag with the potatoes. Muriel Buy Hungry Jack mashed potato mix , keep it in the pantry for up to a year. Martha When a cake recipe calls for flouring the baking pan, use a bit of the dry cake mix instead and there won't be any white mess on the outside of the cake. Muriel Go to the bakery! They'll even decorate it for you. Martha If you accidentally oversalt a dish while it's still cooking, drop in a peeled potato and it will absorb the excess salt for an instant fix-me-up. Muriel If you oversalt a dish while you are cooking, that's too bad. Please recite with me the real woman's motto: I made it and you will eat it and I don't care how bad it tastes! Martha Wrap celery in aluminum foil when putting in the refrigerator and it will keep for weeks. Muriel Celery? Never heard of it! Martha Brush some beaten egg white over pie crust before baking to yield a beautiful glossy finish. Muriel The Mrs. Smith frozen pie directions do not include brushing egg whites over the crust so I don't. Martha Cure for headaches: take a lime, cut it in half and rub it on your forehead. The throbbing will go away. Muriel Take a lime, mix it with tequila, chill and drink! Martha If you have a problem opening jars, try using latex dishwashing gloves. They give a non-slip grip that makes opening jars easy. Muriel Go ask that very cute neighbor if he can open it for you. Martha Don't throw out all that leftover wine. Freeze into ice cubes for future use in casseroles and sauces. Muriel Leftover wine??? HELLO !!! David in Ballarat To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Potatoes
The breakfast thread on Lace has gotten around to hash
browns. Which reminded me of my favorite lunch.
When you buy hash browns in a restaurant, or take pre-made
cakes out of the freezer case at the grocery, they are
really cartofflepooffer -- and it's no wonder they aren't
sold under that name! I calls 'em potato pancakes when
made at home -- but home-made ones come out pancake shaped
and crunchy instead of in the form of little cakes with
mealy interiors. It's a very simple -- but very
high-calorie -- dish: grate potatoes coarsely, you don't
even have to peel them first, then fry them in lots of oil
-- best in the still-molten grease from frying the bacon.
You'll have to add more oil for the second batch; the potato
shreds soak it up *fast*.
good! And not one molecule in it is on the South
Beach diet. Well, I think salt is allowed.
For a proper hash-brown potato, you peel and cube the
potatoes the night before, then soak the them in cold water
until morning to make them crisp and take the coating of
starch off. Be sure to use the soaking water in cooking,
because all the vitamins and minerals are in it. What hits
the skillet is pure starch. Drain well, rolling on a towel
if necessary. Fry until brown on most sides.
Needless to say, it is several decades since I have done this.
But I make a closely-allied dish for lunch -- at least I did
until Dr. Snider told me to swear off white potatoes.
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Personally, I think the folks who say that sweet potatoes
are less glycemic than white potatoes are engaged in wishful
thinking: you can *taste* the sugar in sweet potatoes:
enough that I won't put gravy on them. But they are really
good cubed and fry-steamed even when I don't add spices or
butter. (Steaming them in their own vapors sort of
concentrates the sugar, so butter isn't required.) Spices
are free-choice, and cinnamon is on the do eat list. DH
also takes cinnamon in capsules, but after forgetting to go
to the pharmacy several days in a row, he has figured out
how to mix loose cinnamon with his calcium chews.
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I chop celery and put it in a skillet with sesame oil to
start cooking, then scrub and cube a potato. I don't peel
it unless the skin has more flaws than I care to cut out.
Nor do I wash off the coating of starch. Bell Pepper (sweet
capsicum) goes in next if I have it, then chopped onion.
Also anything else I find in the fridge. If there is
left-over meat, it goes in at the last moment so it can heat
without cooking more. The veggies are more steamed than fried.
But sweet potatoes cooked this way would get really sweet,
unfit to mix with meat and vegetable. I'll have to start
haunting La Surtidoria in hope of jicama, but it seems to be
seasonal, and I don't know when the season is.
--
Joy Beeson
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west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A.
where the winter is wet, but half the strawberries have died
from the lack of snow. (Those in the lawn around the raised
bed are doing fine, but I can't keep weeds out of
ground-level strawberries.)
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