[lace-chat] Re: Bush's visit to UK and beyond
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:51:20 -0500 From: Tamara P. Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Because being anti (again, anti *anything*) is restricted It's often used as an accusation here. For example, people who are anti-Bush are being labelled by some as being anti-American. People who are anti-Iraq war are often accused of being pro-Saddam. And yet it's perfectly possible to be opposed to the war, but also opposed to Saddam, to be opposed to Bush's policies, but a supporter of America. A poll published in the Guardian today shows that 62% of Britons think America is generally a force for good in the world, whereas only 43% are in favour of Bush's visit (36% oppose it). It's this sloppy, invalid either/or in public discussion that really annoys me. Both NYTimes and the Wash.Post *report the facts*... Because of our *personal* bias, my DH takes *the same reports* as being anti-Palestine (and sides with Palestine, as a result), and I take them to be anti-Israel That's the nub of it. It's very difficult for any of us to judge things objectively. But if something is perceived by both sides as being anti-them, it's probably got it more or less right. But, *Argentina* for Jews to settle in?!?!?!? Have you lost your cotton-picking mind My statement was merely a rueful comment that things would have been simpler now if the Zionists had chosen Argentina. I didn't mean that that was the most appropriate place for them to go. I was surprised that they even considered a homeland anywhere other than Palestine. The fact that, with hindsight, it would have been less trouble if they had settled in Argentina doesn't mean that's where they *should* have gone. I would support the state of Israel within the boundaries they were originally given, though like you, I disapprove of their occupation of other land. (But then, who am I, a child of the British Empire, to disapprove of anyone else's expansionism? g) Regards, Annette, London To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Nuw Modelbuch lace book
I am looking for a copy of the 3 volume book set called Nuw Modelbuch. Is is lace patterns from 1561, and from the look of the name perhaps German. I thought is has been republished by Unicorn Books, but have been unable to locate that company. I had copied down an ISBN number but have no luck with using that either. The ISBN was 3-258-0310-1. I have the LaPompe pattern book from about the same time period. I belong to the S.C.A. and want to do period lace for my Elizabethan dresses. Many thanks for any clues anyone is able to give me. Ysandra To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace-chat] Nuw Modelbuch lace book
Could this be what you're looking for? GERMAN RENAISSANCE PATTERNS FOR EMBROIDERY: A FACSIMILE COPY OF NICHOLAS BASSEE'S NEW MODELBUCH OF 1568 Introduction by Kathleen Epstein Nicolas Bassee, a native of Flanders, emigrated to Frankfurt am Main in 1561 where he established a printing office. By the end of the sixteenth century, he was the successful publisher-printer of books in Frankfurt. Among the works, Basse printed during his highly productive life was a book of embroidery patterns. Entitled New Modelbuch von Allerhandt Art Nehens und Stickens [New pattern book of all kinds of forms of sewing and embroidery], this series of woodcuts had been printed and circulated in various other books during the previous forty-five years. Many of the patterns represent the best of late Gothic and early Renaissance embroidery designs for furnishing textiles and clothing. German Renaissance patterns for Embroidery presents exact-size facsimiles of the existing one hundred plates, title page and colophon of the 1568 edition of Nicolas Bassee's New Modelbuch now housed in the rare book collections of the Newberry Library in Chicago, Illinois. The plates feature charted designs for counted cross-stitch and other counted thread embroidery techniques, angular patterns for double running stitch, various forms for surface embroidery, and geometric bands for satin stitch. The illustrated introduction provides information on Bassee and his work, with historical background on the development of the embroidery pattern book, as well as an analysis of the plates. It's still available: http://www.curiousworks.com/products_page.html Avital Original Message: - From: ysandra sliverneedle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:36:52 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [lace-chat] Nuw Modelbuch lace book I am looking for a copy of the 3 volume book set called Nuw Modelbuch. Is is lace patterns from 1561, and from the look of the name perhaps German. I thought is has been republished by Unicorn Books, but have been unable to locate that company. I had copied down an ISBN number but have no luck with using that either. The ISBN was 3-258-0310-1. I have the LaPompe pattern book from about the same time period. I belong to the S.C.A. and want to do period lace for my Elizabethan dresses. Many thanks for any clues anyone is able to give me. Ysandra mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: Handicap parking/driving
It's clear that in the area of Handicapped parking - as in every other area in our lives - there are no absolutes, no black or white, and plenty of opportunities for cheaters and abusers. People being people, with different sets of needs and values, will make their choices accordingly, and will have every reason to believe they're absolutely correct. My former husband has a permanent handicapped tag on his vehicle. He has a heart condition, so he was eligible for the tag. He drives to the mall, parks in the handicapped space, and then goes inside to walk the perimeter for the exercise his doctors say he needs. I consider that sufficient proof of the permanent character flaws for which I divorced him!! ; ) Clay - Original Message - From: Tamara P. Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chat Arachne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:10 PM Subject: [lace-chat] Re: Handicap parking/driving On Monday, Nov 17, 2003, at 03:58 US/Eastern, Jean Nathan wrote: We only have 'temporary' handicapped badges that each last three years - then you have to reapply.But in order to get one, you have to have a permanent disability. Nice to know that *something*, in the area of social care is better in the US than in the UK :) Here, if you have a permanent disability, you get a permanent tag; the guy in the wheelchair symbol is pressed into your license plates (preceding the numbers). You need to renew the plates yearly (everyone does), but that's it (as it should be). The temporary (and up for periodical review) tags are cardboard, bear the same symbol, and are hung off the front mirror. They're *supposed* to be used only when the disabled is on board *and* needing to get to the store, but they're not (I've seen young, brisk mothers of 3 shepherding the brood to a store having first placed her excuse on the mirror). The older folk tend to drive right to the door of the store, drop the disabled person *there*, and park wherever there's a spot, *other* than the Handicapped one. The procedure is reversed at the other end. It's the younger set who take advantage of the few yards (I bet they're the ones who jog for their health daily, too g) I don't drive slowly as I'm not in pain when I drive. I'm not a disabled driver but a disabled walker. Yeah, sorry, but, in my (limited, granted) experience, the folk with the permanent tags tend to drive at 10-15MPH irrespective of the posted speed limit (25 to 55 MPH in the immediate area; you don't see many of them on the highways, praise be). And they never turn their blinkers off, either... *If*, that is, they remember to turn them on in the first place... I'm a reasonable person most of the time but, when on the road, I turn into a *witch*, and all the infractions are *counted* g - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Attn: Alice Howell
I'm sorry to post this to the list, but my computer crashed over the weekend I no longer have my [EMAIL PROTECTED] email account. I thankfully can use my husband's computer access this Yahoo account of mine. I lost everything including all the email addresses I had stored in the pickles account. Would Alice Howell please contact me? Thank you ... Shirlee Hill To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Thank you Secret Pal!!
Oh my Where do I start?? I'm so excited -- I just can't tell you! Your package came yesterday, but I got the notice too late to go to the post office to pick it up... The anticipation was terrible! g So I threw on my clothes and headed over there first thing this morning and waited until I got back home to open it... Oh the excitement! g What a wonderful selection of goodies you've sent! I'm not sure I deserve all that you sent, but I'll try to be very very good over the next few months to make up for it. :-) I enjoyed your letter so very much -- I feel like I already know you. h if I only knew your name. ggg You sound like you're light years ahead of me in bobbin lace making -- I'm only a mere baby, still struggling with the basics and tangles of threads, as you know. You're so right -- it sounds like our hobbies and interests are very similar, and I'm envious of you growing your own tasty fruits and vegetables. We grow veggies in the summer, but haven't yet planted all the fruit trees that we would like to. Yes -- LoL I am always heavily involved in our festival, and worked all day Saturday. I was tickled pink that you looked it up to read about it! So you know what a great little historical town it is and how laid back our area is (for the most part). :-) :-) The new business is a little slow getting going, due to my husband's elderly parents being very ill, but I'm hoping that when things settle down a bit I'll have more time to devote to making it go. I agree about the lack of hours in the day -- I'll have to live to be 500 years old just to do about a tenth of everything I'd like to do! LoL I can't thank you enough for the fantastic goodies you sent... the Stack-Ups is great!! Can we ever have enough storage containers for all our little intricate things? I'm thinking beads and pins and wires and g The chocolate -- well, it's just to die for -- and just the beautiful wrapper is a treat in itself to look at! I'll see if I can manage to save just one bite for my hubby we're both serious chocoholics and he might get more than his share if I don't eat it first. eg I opened the bobbin first, and was just absolutely delighted! I've not seen a bobbin done in beads in and inset spiral like that yet, but then I've not had the privilege of seeing that many midlands bobbins first hand. I'm slowly getting more midlands, but I've got to figure out how to spangle them before I can try to use them, first, I suppose. That's still kind of a mystery. g I absolutely love the English cloth hanging you sent -- it's so intriguing to receive something that depicts an exotic, faraway land g -- I'm going to attach it to a wooden dowel and hang it up -- I have just the spot for it. g I sure wish I knew where you were located on there! Lastly, I have to tell you -- my heart nearly stopped when I open the framed lace I somehow managed to open it last, and couldn't believe my eyes I don't think I've ever seen anything quite so beautiful! Could you please tell me more about it in your next note? I'm just in awe! (To anyone else that's reading this, this is a miniature lacemaker, roughly 2 inches high, making lace) Oh my gosh, it's absolutely divine! I can't tell you how thrilled I am and I will treasure it always! You could stop right now, and I'd feel like I've received way more than my share. :-) THANK YOU, Secret Pal, you're very special! Skye -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner/Bingo, and is believed to be clean. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Secret Pal thanks
Dear Secret Pal Thank you for your package which arrived yesterday - not as late as Alice suggested it may be. A truly international package; Canadian bobbin, Swiss hankie, South African ornament, Caribbean card, and the plastic mesh and covercloth which I guess are American. The mesh is great, already in use as I've got so many spools of untamed thread - it should be sold by the yard/meter. I haven't yet decided how to use the Coronation cord but I'd like to somehow incorporate it into BL. The bobbin is beautiful and I've spangled it with black and white beads. You're right in saying that Simon Toustou makes the Rolls Royce of lace things. It's the first time I've seen one of his bobbins but I do have a couple of mousse bone dividers made by him and they too are superb. Thank you so much for all the goodies in the package. Brenda http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/ Supporting the [EMAIL PROTECTED] campaign To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Nuw Modelbuch lace book
On Tuesday, Nov 18, 2003, at 02:36 US/Eastern, ysandra sliverneedle wrote: I am looking for a copy of the 3 volume book set called Nuw Modelbuch. Is is lace patterns from 1561, and from the look of the name perhaps German. I thought is has been republished by Unicorn Books, but have been unable to locate that company. I had copied down an ISBN number but have no luck with using that either. The ISBN was 3-258-0310-1. I bet what you have in mind is: Claire Burkhard: Faszinierende Kloppeln/R.M. Nuw Modelbuch - Allerley Gattungen Dantelschnur . Bern (CH) Stuttgart (D), 1986, 2 Bande (120+48 S)+ Mappe mit 40 Kloppelbriefen, Schuber. Text deutch, englisch, franzosisch. Since it's all kinds and types of braid lace and in 2 volumes plus a portfolio of 40 prickings. The above is a direct quote from the Fay catalogue, from the Renaissance Pattern Books section. Unfortunately, the last time I have seen it listed in her catalogue was in 2000; the later catalogues no longer offer it (in fact, the whole section, which consisted of 3 books, has disappeared). The publishers are listed as being in Switzerland and in Germany (there must have been two editions); I've not heard of it being re-published by Unicorn (which, I think, is -- or used to be -- an American firm. I used to get their catalogues, but not in the past 10 yrs or so). Don't know who, if anyone, on the N. American continent carried it (and might still have a copy). Perhaps other Arachneans will direct you to some URLS for books -- I think Abe books has been mentioned before? -- I'm too 'puter illiterate to go web-roaming; you might be able to get a second-hand copy somewhere... Good luck, - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Argentina
Argentina as a Jewish homeland wasn't completely farcical at the time. Argentina had land available (more than Palestine), and many Jews did settle there. However, Argentina was basically a Catholic country, and the Jews there have suffered from prejudice, discrimination, and terrorist attacks over the years, as they have most places. One of my colleagues in the Women's Research Club at the University of Michigan researched the Jewish community in Argentina. If you want to find out more, look for things by Marilyn Rosenthal. To be realistic, given the way people in general work, it is always going to be difficult to move a large number of people of a well-defined group into an area mainly populated already by people of different culture. But it's not as though the Jews who moved to Palestine after WWII had a lot of choice. Most of them couldn't move back where they had come from, and we in America had not exactly done what I would consider to be our part in allowing them to come here. At the U.S. Holocaust Museum in Washington, there is an entire deep well covered with the photographs of the Jewish people from one small town in Lithuania, Eishyshok. I recently found a book by the woman who designed that space, Yaffa Eliach - 750 pages (plus indexes) of the history of that town from the early middle ages through the time right after WWII. The photographs are there...and every caption lists what happened to those in the picture (if it is contemporary with the war). Reading it brings a new level of understanding of why a homeland was necessary... If only it had been possible to gain it without the ongoing complications and injustices. Two wrongs do not make a right. One thing I know -- I am not wise enough to solve the puzzle. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: Handicap parking/driving
Actually YES there is a large Polish population in St Paul (South/Central Minnesota in general). Plus, since there are also alot of Swedes in Minnesota, (actually lots of Scandinavians, including Finnish, Swedish, and Norwegian) we could have a majority of blondes in the City Council LOL. (Don't really know but could be) We do have more natural blondes in this state than most. Cearbhael - Original Message - From: Tamara P. Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chat Arachne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:12 PM Subject: [lace-chat] Re: Handicap parking/driving On Tuesday, Nov 18, 2003, at 00:15 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is really a pain in the rear to have to go to the DMV downtown St Paul (who doesn't even have handicapped parking by the way) to get your handicapped card. Big Polish population in St Paul? The mayor an all the council are blondes too, no doubt... g - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Better safe than sorry...
The perfect gift for the man who travels... :) When I first got it, I thought it was a spoof of some sort, but going to the previous page and the next page has convinced me otherwise. From: B.B. My naughty brother sent me this one and as he noted very bad taste but probably very effective. b http://www.shomer-tec.com/item.cfm?action=CatalogVariable=1164 - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
