Re: [lace-chat] london
Janice wrote: I guess DH and I qualify for the discounts for seniors. Do we need to have proof of any kind to get the discounts at museums, etc? Usually, pensioners just flash their pension book (now a pink card which says you're entitled to pension since pensions started being paid directly into bank accounts). For some reason DH doesn't have the card - must ring the Department of Work and Pensions and ask for one - so he flashes his bus pass. Men qualify for a pension at 65, but get a bus pass at 60 since the EU decided that men and women had to be treated equally in this respect. So it's usually over 60s who get concessions. Don't know if these concessions are restricted to the British living here, but you must have some UK documents with your birth date on just to be sure. In any case, as you only look 20, you'll certainly be asked for proof of age to get a concession:-) Jean in Poole - Original Message - From: Janice Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace-chat-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 12:47 AM Subject: [lace-chat] london Having just filled out my application for my British pension, have been dragging my feet for over a year on this, :-), I guess DH and I qualify for the discounts for seniors. Do we need to have proof of any kind to get the discounts at museums, etc? Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] london
Janice Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having just filled out my application for my British pension, have been dragging my feet for over a year on this, :-), I guess DH and I qualify for the discounts for seniors. Do we need to have proof of any kind to get the discounts at museums, etc? Janice aren't most of the major museums free to enter - the ones that are publicly funded anyway? I think they ask for donations but that's discretionary. jenny barron far too hot in Scotland To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] bobbins for beginner
Dear Ronna, Without wanting to dampen your enthusiam, I would say that your main problem is that you want to do too many things at once as a beginner! Goodness me, I'd never heard of a beginner wanting to try 6 different types of lace when they had only just started learaning !! No wonder it's costing you a fortune! All the laces you mention except torchon are fairly demanding, and if you don't have the basic techniques at your fingertips, you will drown in conflicting instructions, as some things are not made in exactly the same way in different laces. However, if you really want to try all those things at once, just buy some fairly straight bobbins, made of heavy woods, not pine, with a pointy rather than rounded end, so you can use them for different kinds of lace. Honiton, Withof and Milanese don't require many bobbins, in Honiton and Withof, you keep starting and cutting,(which in itself is difficult for a beginner), and Milanese is a tape lace, so you only use 10-15 pairs, usually, particularly for beginner's pieces. The main thing is that spangled bobbins are awkward to use in those laces, because you keep having to do sewings i.e. catching one of the threads with a crochet hook to get it through a bit you've already made so that the lace holds together. As long as your bobbins are slightly pointed at the end, you should be able to use them for any lace. Just because some parts of the world had different types of bobbins from others doesn't mean that we can't make that lace with the bobbins we have!! I did a Rosaline(kind of Withof workshop with spangled bobbins, once, because I didn't have any others, and I didn't want to spend money on some I knew I wouldn't use much after. It worked, it was just awkward to pull the thread through, but with a bit of care, I managed OK. And my teacher didn't blast me off either, she just accepted that I only had those bobbins. My suggestion would be to stick to one type of lace until you can feel you are fairly confident in it, and then do workshops in other types of laces, to see which ones you really like. If you feel Honiton is your thing, go ahead and buy Honiton bobbins and thread, and have lessons, but don't spend all your money buying various things which you may never want to use again after one try!! I did one workshop in Beds (with my torchon bobbins), and decided it was not my cup of tea at all. If I had bought all the supplies plus all the books specially for it, it would have been a complete waste of money. As for books, I suggest you join a local lacemakers's group. Most of them have a library where you can borrow books. A lot cheaper than trying to buy all at once, when you don't even know whether they are good or not. This is my comment about your problems. I hoep you find what you want, and above all, that you keep making lace, which is the most important!! Best of luck, Helene, the froggy from Melbourne Hello all, I have a beginners question about supplies. I have only one style of bobbin right now, I don't know what it is called. It has no spangles, a double head and square base (so it doesn't roll too much). I am going to the convention and have Hointon and Withoff classess. My list of supplies for Hointon has not arrived yet, but my Withoff one has. It asks for Binche or Fine Belgium bobbins 40 of them. I am wondering if I will absolutely have to purchase new bobbins for this or if mine could be used ( I will need the hointon bobbins from what I understand) I am a beginner so the cost of setting up is extraordinary. I would make my own bobbins if I had the time and deminsions. (I turn wood on a lathe, but I am not speedy at it). I want to purchase a large number of books and I am reeling at the sudden cost. I have pins, 2 pillows and a picker and pin puller, I even have a magnifier and sone holders for the bobbins so they don't shift when put away on the pillow. I have about three books so far, but only on Torchon and Milanese. Any tips on cost cutting or prioritizing what I need? My husband is near painic as I start listing what I want. Since I did not know about the conviention till this year I have not set asside for the cost so spreading out the cost and prioritizing is very important for now. Also if I have typos, please forgive - I can't find my glasses. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Denmark
Dear spiders, thank you very much to those who sent me info about where to stay in Copenhagen and around. I haven't done anything about it yet as I had to go into hospital for a nose operation(no, no, not a cosmetic one, just to widen my airways!), and missed one week at work, what bad luck :-( When I went back, everything was in a mess because we're getting an updated version of our computer system!!!I think computer programmers pay less and less attention to the comfort of those who are going to use their programmes! The anount of finger work we have to do with the new system compared with the old one is incredible. And all because they keep putting in things that are useless but have to be keyed in before we can get what we want I can imagine the number of RSI claims in the next generation!!!Half of them will be crippled by age 40. Bad for lace, that!! So, thank you all anyway. I'll process the information as I go along... Yours in lace, Helene, the froggy from Melbourne The pessimist may be right in the long run, but the optimist will have had a better time during the trip (R Stollery) Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] :-) I pledge allegiance to the flag...
Jimmy was at his first day of school. The teacher advised the class to start the day with the Pledge of Allegiance, and instructed them to put their right hands over their hearts and repeat it after him. He looked around the room as he started the recitation, I pledge allegiance to the flag... When the teacher's eyes fell on Jimmy, he noticed his hand over the right cheek of his behind. James, I will not continue till you put your hand over your heart. Jimmy replied, It is over my heart. After several attempts to get Jimmy to put his hand over his heart, the teacher asked, Why do you think that is your heart? Because, every time my Grandma comes to visit, she picks me up, pats me here, and says, 'Bless your little heart,' and my Grandma wouldn't lie. Margery. [EMAIL PROTECTED] in North Herts, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Visiting the UK
Hi all, I've been informed by my boss that I'm having a month of holidays whether I want them or not. So I have decided to visit the UK to see some family who are based in North Wales. I leave in the beginning of August and come back at the beginning of September. Does anyone have some suggestions of lace places that I could visit around the country? Cheers Shell In rainy Tasmania, Australia To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Translation assistance
The school teacher who has been giving our eldest son Estonian language classes asked me about a sentence in one of Caroline Graham's Chief Inspector Barnaby books which she is translating into Estonian. She asked me if I knew what a finger dainty was. We presumed it was some sort of food, either a small dainty cookie (long rather than round) or a sandwich. What is it? Then there was a sentence that ended with: she picked up a sunray of bloater paste soldiers. I know that soldiers are slices of bread or toast cut into fingers, but what is bloater paste and a sunray? Can anyone please explain? Thanks for your help, Pene To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Bedfordshire area pictures
There's a history book of pictures of Bedfordshire area on eBay with just a few hours to go. If anyone is a history buff of that region, you might want to take a look. Item 8311815348. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=98558item=8311815348rd=1 Alice in Oregon -- where last night we had lightning, thunder, rain and a glorious golden sunset which included a rainbow -- all at the same time. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: Continuing problems with AOL and others!
Well, the good news is that I can now post to AOL etc again. On 20 Jun 2005, at 01:58, Tamara P Duvall wrote: Yesterday (or maybe the day before?) your message (to lace) - about Edition 3 of Threads for Lace - got stopped by my ISP, and I had to go to their website to retrieve it. It's the first time that's happened, since I also subscribe, via the ISP, to Postini (a virus and spam filter). at least you had the opportunity to decide for yourself whether or not it was spam I've long believed that some messages get rejected/tagged as spam because of the subject line. During the period when every second spam message wanted to sell me a Rolex watch, my message to Dominique (in Paris), which had rolled cords as the subject line got rejected also. When I changed the subject line it was delivered. Was that the one with the subject 'Edition 3 - still waiting' ? Perhaps it was 'still waiting' that upset the system. A strong stance on junk mail is commendable, but not so good if it's rejecting bone fide messages. Which is why I like my ISP-cum-Postini much better; both let *me* decide whether to zap the message (and its sender) or to accept it. I can then designate the sender's address as as acceptable, and no more problems (one hopes g)... I have Norton Anti virus etc, and since I've had broadband and don't pay by the minute for internet connection spam doesn't bother me as much as it used to. I've got 'Mail' pretty well trained and most of it goes into the junk folder and gets deleted unread. The few that do come through, usually to the main in-box rather than diverted to a folder, generally have subject lines that identify it as spam and get sent to junk which subsequently sends anything else from that sender there too. And Anne, in Austin, Texas wrote: I ran into problems sending to AOL addresses in another group. The tech I talked with said it was because I had a business card attachment. Just a few days earlier I had no problems with sending to AOL. It coincided with AOL's decision to start attaching ads, etc., to emails. It could be that the unsubscribe tag is causing the bounces. AOL members are only allowed to send to a maximum of 10 people if even 1 of the addresses is to a Yahoo address. This went into effect at the same time. Cheese, Louise... Why would anyone want to stay with AOL then? It's not as if they're a free service, and if they're gonna add ads to emails and, at the same time, act like a robber baron monopoly (barring free services like yahoo)... Another list (family history) that I subscribe to had problems a while ago posting to AOL customers. IIRC AOL didn't like messages being sent to large groups! Maybe it was the same problem and one (or more) members of the discussion group was with Yahoo. Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
