Re: L&I Johnson: Tuesday summary/Closing arguments
moonshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DocCec wrote: > DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > In a message dated 98-04-07 22:46:05 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << "People like Suzanne Johnson do not kill," Carlos said repeatedly. > "People like Suzanne Johnson nurture life...The state's case is based on > a need to blame someone for Jasmine Miller's death. And who do they > blame? The last person to hold the baby, my client, Suzanne Johnson." > >> > > Frankly I think this is a weak argument. People like (whatever) do, > unfortunately, sometimes do things that seem out of character. That's not to > say she did what she is accused of doing, just that the argument is weak. > Doc Mornin', I agree. I thought the whoe defense case was weak and Carlos was in over his head. ...Mac Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I Johnson: Tuesday summary/Closing arguments
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: On Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:22:03 -0700 "Ronald Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >"Ronald Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>I agree with both of you, I expect a conviction on this case. >> >>moonshine wrote: >>> > > >I predict a hung jury in this case, but it depends on the racial >makeup of >the jury which I have never heard. Not a big deal was made of it >during the >trial, but the defendant is white and the victim was Black, and >someone on >Court TV stated that this was the first Black child in that day care. >Johnny Cochran, the biggest racist of all, will be analyzing this case >tonight on his Court TV show. I bet you anything he knows that >Johnson did >it :-). Ron > Hi Ron, Blacks convict blacks of crimes every day. I don't think that race plays a role in every trial like it did in the Simpson trial. Bill _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I Johnson: Tuesday summary/Closing arguments
Kathy E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Ron :) I did something in this case on purpose, I left out the races of the accused and the victim also. I wanted to see what people were going to say about innocence or guilt with out them having to know the racial information because IMO the race of either of them doesn't matter. What does matter and what is important is that a baby was killed, black or white she was still a innocent child. Interesting thing is most of the people I have talked to think Johnson killed her. Some knew Johnson was white, since they are watching the trial also, some didn't know the racial makeup and never asked me, that wasn't important. Yet they also felt Johnson killed Jasmine. To go along with what your saying, I don't agree, I think people from any race can decide guilt or innocence, as they do every day in court houses across this nation. They are looking at the facts of the case, not the racial makeup to decide who is guilty or not. I don't think a verdict depends on the racial makeup of a jury. I do think some people take things to extremes though, just because we saw one trial where race did play a part in a verdict does NOT mean that all juries are like that, I happen to think that jury was rare and not the norm. Ronald Helm wrote: > I predict a hung jury in this case, but it depends on the racial makeup of > the jury which I have never heard. Not a big deal was made of it during the > trial, but the defendant is white and the victim was Black, and someone on > Court TV stated that this was the first Black child in that day care. > Johnny Cochran, the biggest racist of all, will be analyzing this case > tonight on his Court TV show. I bet you anything he knows that Johnson did > it :-). Ron -- Kathy E "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and tomorrow isn't looking too good for you either" http://members.delphi.com/kathylaw/ Law & Issues Mailing List http://pw1.netcom.com/~kathye/rodeo.html - Cowboy Histories http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/2990/law.htm Crime photo's Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I Johnson: Tuesday summary/Closing arguments
Kathy E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I agree with both of you, I expect a conviction on this case. moonshine wrote: > > moonshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > DocCec wrote: > > > DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > In a message dated 98-04-07 22:46:05 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > << "People like Suzanne Johnson do not kill," Carlos said repeatedly. > > "People like Suzanne Johnson nurture life...The state's case is based on > > a need to blame someone for Jasmine Miller's death. And who do they > > blame? The last person to hold the baby, my client, Suzanne Johnson." > > >> > > > > Frankly I think this is a weak argument. People like (whatever) do, > > unfortunately, sometimes do things that seem out of character. That's not to > > say she did what she is accused of doing, just that the argument is weak. > > Doc > > Mornin', I agree. I thought the whoe defense case was weak and Carlos was in over >his > head. > ...Mac > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues -- Kathy E "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and tomorrow isn't looking too good for you either" http://members.delphi.com/kathylaw/ Law & Issues Mailing List http://pw1.netcom.com/~kathye/rodeo.html - Cowboy Histories http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/2990/law.htm Crime photo's Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I Johnson: Tuesday summary/Closing arguments
"Ronald Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >I agree with both of you, I expect a conviction on this case. > >moonshine wrote: >> I predict a hung jury in this case, but it depends on the racial makeup of the jury which I have never heard. Not a big deal was made of it during the trial, but the defendant is white and the victim was Black, and someone on Court TV stated that this was the first Black child in that day care. Johnny Cochran, the biggest racist of all, will be analyzing this case tonight on his Court TV show. I bet you anything he knows that Johnson did it :-). Ron Jury - Twelve people who determine which client has the better lawyer. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I Johnson: Tuesday summary/Closing arguments
DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: In a message dated 98-04-07 22:46:05 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << "People like Suzanne Johnson do not kill," Carlos said repeatedly. "People like Suzanne Johnson nurture life...The state's case is based on a need to blame someone for Jasmine Miller's death. And who do they blame? The last person to hold the baby, my client, Suzanne Johnson." >> Frankly I think this is a weak argument. People like (whatever) do, unfortunately, sometimes do things that seem out of character. That's not to say she did what she is accused of doing, just that the argument is weak. Doc Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
