[leaf-devel] LEAF Project

2016-01-14 Thread Erich Titl
Hi Folks

I just looked at leaf.sourceforge.net and was wondering

Created on 2003-02-04 10:24:27 by install
Updated on 2005-08-24 11:48:30 by mhnoyes

Latest news:

LEAF Bering-uClibc maintenance update 4.3.3 released

Wouldn't we think that the release of 5.2.3 it worth a note?
Should we not remove the links to Lince, Oxygen and WISP-Dist?
Has there really not been anything worth a change of the web site since
2005?

I believe we need to address this, else even the best software would go
unnoticed.

cheers

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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF project

2013-01-28 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Hi;

thx for taking care.

Am 28.01.2013 18:46, schrieb Mike Noyes:
> On 01/27/2013 05:32 AM, Mike Noyes wrote:
>> On 01/27/2013 02:25 AM, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
>>> Hi Mike;
>>>
>>> as others said it almost works out of the box, I do tests with qemu or
>>> virtualbox.
>>
>> Erich, Andrew, & KP,
>> Thanks for the information. I'll pass it on to Mohan.
> 
> Everyone,
> I spoke with Mohan again:
> 
>I know it can be done. Feasibility was never the issue. Having ready
>VM images for Intel machines will be appropriate was my point. Will
>help if some one creates them and a howto.
> 
> Is anyone willing to do this?

What about inviting him (again?) to join leaf-devel or leaf-user so we
can discuss directly with him?

AFAIK at least iso-images can be started and tested in VM's like qemu,
xen and virtualbox. Tweaking images to do more than that, might be
essentially an issue to provide a proper configdb.lrp
I've also written a how-to (though admitted for a special use-case),
which can be copied and used.

I'm willing to help, but building "ready VM images" myself, beyond what
we've accomplished, doesn't have a high-priority yet. Not to say, I
simply do not understand what's missing.

kp


> 
>>> Also see
>>>
>>> https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/leaf/index.php?title=Bering-uClibc_4.x_-_User_Guide_-_Advanced_Topics_-_Setting_Up_a_HTTP_Anti_Virus_Proxy
>>>
>>> where a virtualabox setup is documented to get an idea what is
>>> needed/can be done.
>>
>> KP,
>> Will do.
>>
>>>
>>> Am 26.01.2013 17:24, schrieb Mike Noyes:
 Everyone,
 Here is an interesting idea from Mohan.


  Original Message 
> -snip-
 I was talking to a couple of folks and recommending they use LEAF to do
 some pentesting with a small footprint Linux distribution. During the
 discussions, I suggested they build a VM with LEAF as the OS within and
 give that as a download for folks to use. Coming to think of it now, it
 is an interesting method of distributing LEAF for folks to try LEAF. I'm
 pretty much out of touch with the LEAF mailing list forum. Can you
 suggest this to the developers of current branches being maintained
 actively? Mohan
> 
> 


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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF project

2013-01-28 Thread Mike Noyes
On 01/27/2013 05:32 AM, Mike Noyes wrote:
> On 01/27/2013 02:25 AM, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
>> Hi Mike;
>>
>> as others said it almost works out of the box, I do tests with qemu or
>> virtualbox.
>
> Erich, Andrew, & KP,
> Thanks for the information. I'll pass it on to Mohan.

Everyone,
I spoke with Mohan again:

   I know it can be done. Feasibility was never the issue. Having ready
   VM images for Intel machines will be appropriate was my point. Will
   help if some one creates them and a howto.

Is anyone willing to do this?


>> Also see
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/leaf/index.php?title=Bering-uClibc_4.x_-_User_Guide_-_Advanced_Topics_-_Setting_Up_a_HTTP_Anti_Virus_Proxy
>>
>> where a virtualabox setup is documented to get an idea what is
>> needed/can be done.
>
> KP,
> Will do.
>
>>
>> Am 26.01.2013 17:24, schrieb Mike Noyes:
>>> Everyone,
>>> Here is an interesting idea from Mohan.
>>>
>>>
>>>  Original Message 
-snip-
>>> I was talking to a couple of folks and recommending they use LEAF to do
>>> some pentesting with a small footprint Linux distribution. During the
>>> discussions, I suggested they build a VM with LEAF as the OS within and
>>> give that as a download for folks to use. Coming to think of it now, it
>>> is an interesting method of distributing LEAF for folks to try LEAF. I'm
>>> pretty much out of touch with the LEAF mailing list forum. Can you
>>> suggest this to the developers of current branches being maintained
>>> actively? Mohan


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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF project

2013-01-27 Thread Mike Noyes
On 01/27/2013 02:25 AM, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
> Hi Mike;
>
> as others said it almost works out of the box, I do tests with qemu or
> virtualbox.

Erich, Andrew, & KP,
Thanks for the information. I'll pass it on to Mohan.

> Also see
>
> https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/leaf/index.php?title=Bering-uClibc_4.x_-_User_Guide_-_Advanced_Topics_-_Setting_Up_a_HTTP_Anti_Virus_Proxy
>
> where a virtualabox setup is documented to get an idea what is
> needed/can be done.

KP,
Will do.


> kp
>
> Am 26.01.2013 17:24, schrieb Mike Noyes:
>> Everyone,
>> Here is an interesting idea from Mohan.
>>
>>
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: Message via your Google Profile: LEAF project
>> Date:Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:20:57 +
>> From:Mohan Sundaram 
>> To:  mhno...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> I was talking to a couple of folks and recommending they use LEAF to do
>> some pentesting with a small footprint Linux distribution. During the
>> discussions, I suggested they build a VM with LEAF as the OS within and
>> give that as a download for folks to use. Coming to think of it now, it
>> is an interesting method of distributing LEAF for folks to try LEAF. I'm
>> pretty much out of touch with the LEAF mailing list forum. Can you
>> suggest this to the developers of current branches being maintained
>> actively? Mohan
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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF project

2013-01-27 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Hi Mike;

as others said it almost works out of the box, I do tests with qemu or
virtualbox.
Also see

https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/leaf/index.php?title=Bering-uClibc_4.x_-_User_Guide_-_Advanced_Topics_-_Setting_Up_a_HTTP_Anti_Virus_Proxy

where a virtualabox setup is documented to get an idea what is
needed/can be done.

kp

Am 26.01.2013 17:24, schrieb Mike Noyes:
> Everyone,
> Here is an interesting idea from Mohan.
> 
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject:  Message via your Google Profile: LEAF project
> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:20:57 +
> From: Mohan Sundaram 
> To:   mhno...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> I was talking to a couple of folks and recommending they use LEAF to do 
> some pentesting with a small footprint Linux distribution. During the 
> discussions, I suggested they build a VM with LEAF as the OS within and 
> give that as a download for folks to use. Coming to think of it now, it 
> is an interesting method of distributing LEAF for folks to try LEAF. I'm 
> pretty much out of touch with the LEAF mailing list forum. Can you 
> suggest this to the developers of current branches being maintained 
> actively? Mohan
> 
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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF project

2013-01-27 Thread Andrew
Hi.
I use Virtualbox for testing purposes. It can easily mount CD image. So 
I doubt about special VM image.
 From other side, VM image can be easily created by script (create blank 
image and mount it as loop device, then - partition it, make it bootable 
and extract tarball on it's partition).

26.01.2013 18:24, Mike Noyes пишет:
> Everyone,
> Here is an interesting idea from Mohan.
>
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject:  Message via your Google Profile: LEAF project
> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:20:57 +
> From: Mohan Sundaram 
> To:   mhno...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> I was talking to a couple of folks and recommending they use LEAF to do
> some pentesting with a small footprint Linux distribution. During the
> discussions, I suggested they build a VM with LEAF as the OS within and
> give that as a download for folks to use. Coming to think of it now, it
> is an interesting method of distributing LEAF for folks to try LEAF. I'm
> pretty much out of touch with the LEAF mailing list forum. Can you
> suggest this to the developers of current branches being maintained
> actively? Mohan
>
>
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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF project

2013-01-26 Thread Erich Titl
Hi

Am 26.01.2013 17:24, schrieb Mike Noyes:
> Everyone,
> Here is an interesting idea from Mohan.
>
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject:  Message via your Google Profile: LEAF project
> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:20:57 +
> From: Mohan Sundaram 
> To:   mhno...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> I was talking to a couple of folks and recommending they use LEAF to do
> some pentesting with a small footprint Linux distribution. During the
> discussions, I suggested they build a VM with LEAF as the OS within and
> give that as a download for folks to use. Coming to think of it now, it
> is an interesting method of distributing LEAF for folks to try LEAF. I'm
> pretty much out of touch with the LEAF mailing list forum. Can you
> suggest this to the developers of current branches being maintained
> actively? Mohan


It all depends on the virtualization platform. We were running LEAF on 
Xen for quite a while as our test environment. AFAIK there was hardly 
anything to do to get it up and running.

cheers

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[leaf-devel] LEAF project

2013-01-26 Thread Mike Noyes
Everyone,
Here is an interesting idea from Mohan.


 Original Message 
Subject:Message via your Google Profile: LEAF project
Date:   Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:20:57 +
From:   Mohan Sundaram 
To: mhno...@gmail.com



I was talking to a couple of folks and recommending they use LEAF to do 
some pentesting with a small footprint Linux distribution. During the 
discussions, I suggested they build a VM with LEAF as the OS within and 
give that as a download for folks to use. Coming to think of it now, it 
is an interesting method of distributing LEAF for folks to try LEAF. I'm 
pretty much out of touch with the LEAF mailing list forum. Can you 
suggest this to the developers of current branches being maintained 
actively? Mohan


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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF Project Logo - Time for an update?

2012-05-26 Thread Mike Noyes
On 05/17/2012 09:47 AM, davidMbrooke wrote:
-snip-
> Let me try some experiments at the weekend. So far we have several votes
> in favour of the new logo and none against so on that basis it is worth
> proceeding.
>
> Personally I would like the option of:
> - A "full" logo like the one in the body of the Wiki Main Page.
> - A "small" logo, which is roughly square, and could act as a
> favicon.ico for web pages (which Mike also requested).
> - Perhaps one or two other variants.

Everyone,
The logo is now in our git repository.

http://leaf.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=leaf/leaf;a=tree;f=leafprojectlogo/colorgraphicz

David,
Again, I thank you for doing this for our project. :-)


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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF Project Logo - Time for an update?

2012-05-17 Thread davidMbrooke
On Wed, 2012-05-16 at 23:32 +0200, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
> Am 16.05.2012 23:21, schrieb davidMbrooke:
> > On Wed, 2012-05-16 at 23:03 +0200, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
> >> Hi David,
> >> 
> >> sorry, a misunderstanding on which side ever... I meant to add
> >> "Linux Embedded Appliance Framework" below the logo.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> kp
> > 
> > As in:
> > 
> > **
> >  LOGO
> > **
> > Linux
> >Embedded
> >Appliance
> >Framework
> > 
> > ?
> > 
> > david
> 
> Maybe -  or as in
> 
> 
> **
>LOGO
> **
> Leaf Embedded Appliance Framework (in one line)
> 
> Not shure if that's possible/lloks good - just asking how it looks.
> 
> Anyway The logo with text as it is looks better than without text. Maybe
> in the long run the logo will speak for itself.
> 
> kp

Hi Kp,

Let me try some experiments at the weekend. So far we have several votes
in favour of the new logo and none against so on that basis it is worth
proceeding.

Personally I would like the option of:
   - A "full" logo like the one in the body of the Wiki Main Page.
   - A "small" logo, which is roughly square, and could act as a
favicon.ico for web pages (which Mike also requested).
   - Perhaps one or two other variants.

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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF Project Logo - Time for an update?

2012-05-16 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Am 16.05.2012 23:21, schrieb davidMbrooke:
> On Wed, 2012-05-16 at 23:03 +0200, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
>> Hi David,
>> 
>> sorry, a misunderstanding on which side ever... I meant to add
>> "Linux Embedded Appliance Framework" below the logo.
>> 
>> 
>> kp
> 
> As in:
> 
> **
>  LOGO
> **
> Linux
>Embedded
>Appliance
>Framework
> 
> ?
> 
> david

Maybe -  or as in


**
   LOGO
**
Leaf Embedded Appliance Framework (in one line)

Not shure if that's possible/lloks good - just asking how it looks.

Anyway The logo with text as it is looks better than without text. Maybe
in the long run the logo will speak for itself.

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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF Project Logo - Time for an update?

2012-05-16 Thread davidMbrooke
On Wed, 2012-05-16 at 23:03 +0200, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> sorry, a misunderstanding on which side ever... I meant to add
> "Linux Embedded Appliance Framework" below the logo.
> 
> 
> kp

As in:

**
 LOGO
**
Linux
   Embedded
   Appliance
   Framework

?

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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF Project Logo - Time for an update?

2012-05-16 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Am 16.05.2012 22:55, schrieb davidMbrooke:
> On Wed, 2012-05-16 at 22:05 +0200, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
>> Am 15.05.2012 23:05, schrieb davidMbrooke:
>> > 
>> > As a comparison I have updated the Wiki sidebar logo with just the
>> > graphic, which seems a little "bare" by comparison to the version with
>> > the text. We could add the LEAF text below the graphic, which would also
>> > make it roughly square.
>> 
>> Hi David;
>> 
>> Not shure yet - can you upload a logo for the sidebar with the LEAF text
>> below for comparison?
>> 
>> kp
> 
> Hi kp,
> 
> I can do that. Check again now :-)
> You can see a side-by-side comparison at
> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/leaf/index.php?title=File:MediaWikiSidebarLogo.png

Hi David,

sorry, a misunderstanding on which side ever... I meant to add
"Linux Embedded Appliance Framework" below the logo.


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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF Project Logo - Time for an update?

2012-05-16 Thread davidMbrooke
On Wed, 2012-05-16 at 22:05 +0200, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
> Am 15.05.2012 23:05, schrieb davidMbrooke:
> > 
> > As a comparison I have updated the Wiki sidebar logo with just the
> > graphic, which seems a little "bare" by comparison to the version with
> > the text. We could add the LEAF text below the graphic, which would also
> > make it roughly square.
> 
> Hi David;
> 
> Not shure yet - can you upload a logo for the sidebar with the LEAF text
> below for comparison?
> 
> kp

Hi kp,

I can do that. Check again now :-)
You can see a side-by-side comparison at
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/leaf/index.php?title=File:MediaWikiSidebarLogo.png

The colours look slightly different, perhaps because I edited the Vector
(.ai) source with Inkscape then converted to PNG using Inkscape.
The original graphic artist used CorelDraw, I believe.

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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF Project Logo - Time for an update?

2012-05-16 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Am 15.05.2012 23:05, schrieb davidMbrooke:
> On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 22:25 +0200, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
>> Am 15.05.2012 21:20, schrieb davidMbrooke:
>> > On Sat, 2012-05-05 at 12:12 +0100, davidMbrooke wrote:
>> >> No response from Rich (yet) so I've kicked off a project at
>> >> freelancer.co.uk and I'll pick one of the bidders to see what they come
>> >> up with.
>> >> 
>> >> david
>> > 
>> > My commission for a new logo at freelancer.co.uk has been completed.
>> > The graphic artist came up with a logo to try to emphasize the "leaf"
>> > and "framework" aspects, and also something that is different from other
>> > "leaf" logos. (Do a Google Images search for "leaf logo" and you get a
>> > *lot* of hits!)
>> > 
>> > I have the full vector-format source for the graphics and have been
>> > assigned full copyright (but I will release under the Creative Commons
>> > Attribution-ShareAlike license). Before I upload to the "leaf/leaf" Git
>> > repository I want to check how the rest of you like the new artwork.
>> > 
>> > I have uploaded a .png version of the full logo to our Wiki and
>> > (temporarily) added it to the Main Page:
>> > http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/leaf/index.php?title=Main_Page
>> > 
>> > I'm also thinking of removing the text and using just the graphic
>> > portion in some places (e.g. the Wiki sidebar).
>> > 
>> > What do you think? I won't be offended (much) if you don't like it :-)
>> 
>> Hi David;
>> 
>> I'm (positively) surprised of the result.
>> 
>> My first impression is that I like the move to a green colorization. The
>> logo itself also expresses  a sort of "linking networks".
>> I also like the "underline"  I'm not shure about "LEAF" being that
>> prominent/huge. But without it, it may look "empty", and something
>> smaller might have been tested by the author...
>> 
>> To summarize: As longer I look at it, the more I like it. And the
>> possibility to just use logo itself, or the full one - when appropriate
>> - gives enough freedom.
>> 
>> kp
> 
> Hi kp (and Martin Hejl who I see has also replied positively),
> 
> I too find it looks better as time passes. Maybe the zoom is too big on
> the Wiki main page; I have just scaled it down a little.
> 
> As a comparison I have updated the Wiki sidebar logo with just the
> graphic, which seems a little "bare" by comparison to the version with
> the text. We could add the LEAF text below the graphic, which would also
> make it roughly square.

Hi David;

Not shure yet - can you upload a logo for the sidebar with the LEAF text
below for comparison?

kp

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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF Project Logo - Time for an update?

2012-05-16 Thread Mike Noyes
On 05/15/2012 06:31 PM, Mike Noyes wrote:
> On 05/15/2012 12:20 PM, davidMbrooke wrote:
>> On Sat, 2012-05-05 at 12:12 +0100, davidMbrooke wrote:
>>> No response from Rich (yet) so I've kicked off a project at
>>> freelancer.co.uk and I'll pick one of the bidders to see what they come
>>> up with.
>>>
>>> david
>>
>> My commission for a new logo at freelancer.co.uk has been completed.
>> The graphic artist came up with a logo to try to emphasize the "leaf"
>> and "framework" aspects, and also something that is different from other
>> "leaf" logos. (Do a Google Images search for "leaf logo" and you get a
>> *lot* of hits!)
>>
>> I have the full vector-format source for the graphics and have been
>> assigned full copyright (but I will release under the Creative Commons
>> Attribution-ShareAlike license). Before I upload to the "leaf/leaf" Git
>> repository I want to check how the rest of you like the new artwork.
>>
>> I have uploaded a .png version of the full logo to our Wiki and
>> (temporarily) added it to the Main Page:
>> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/leaf/index.php?title=Main_Page
>>
>> I'm also thinking of removing the text and using just the graphic
>> portion in some places (e.g. the Wiki sidebar).
>>
>> What do you think? I won't be offended (much) if you don't like it :-)
>
> David,
> Very nice indeed. Much better than the poor attempts I was able to generate.
>
> +1

Everyone,
I just looked at my old submissions for our logo contest, and the 
currently proposed logo is outstanding in comparison.

David,
Thank you for commissioning this. :-)

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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF Project Logo - Time for an update?

2012-05-15 Thread Erich Titl
David

first and foremost, thanks for the effort.

at 15.05.2012 21:20, davidMbrooke wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-05-05 at 12:12 +0100, davidMbrooke wrote:
...

> 
> I have uploaded a .png version of the full logo to our Wiki and
> (temporarily) added it to the Main Page:
> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/leaf/index.php?title=Main_Page
> 
> I'm also thinking of removing the text and using just the graphic
> portion in some places (e.g. the Wiki sidebar).
> 
> What do you think? I won't be offended (much) if you don't like it :-)
> 

Better than the current Logo, I myself expected something less static, a
bit like the leaf in

http://www.erdgas.ch/typo3conf/ext/sitepackage/theme/preset/image/logos/logo_print_de.gif

But then it's already used and yours is definitely a good one. What
about TUX in the logo to show the roots of the project?

cheers

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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF Project Logo - Time for an update?

2012-05-15 Thread Mike Noyes
On 05/15/2012 12:20 PM, davidMbrooke wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-05-05 at 12:12 +0100, davidMbrooke wrote:
>> No response from Rich (yet) so I've kicked off a project at
>> freelancer.co.uk and I'll pick one of the bidders to see what they come
>> up with.
>>
>> david
>
> My commission for a new logo at freelancer.co.uk has been completed.
> The graphic artist came up with a logo to try to emphasize the "leaf"
> and "framework" aspects, and also something that is different from other
> "leaf" logos. (Do a Google Images search for "leaf logo" and you get a
> *lot* of hits!)
>
> I have the full vector-format source for the graphics and have been
> assigned full copyright (but I will release under the Creative Commons
> Attribution-ShareAlike license). Before I upload to the "leaf/leaf" Git
> repository I want to check how the rest of you like the new artwork.
>
> I have uploaded a .png version of the full logo to our Wiki and
> (temporarily) added it to the Main Page:
> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/leaf/index.php?title=Main_Page
>
> I'm also thinking of removing the text and using just the graphic
> portion in some places (e.g. the Wiki sidebar).
>
> What do you think? I won't be offended (much) if you don't like it :-)

David,
Very nice indeed. Much better than the poor attempts I was able to generate.

+1

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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF Project Logo - Time for an update?

2012-05-15 Thread davidMbrooke
On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 22:25 +0200, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
> Am 15.05.2012 21:20, schrieb davidMbrooke:
> > On Sat, 2012-05-05 at 12:12 +0100, davidMbrooke wrote:
> >> No response from Rich (yet) so I've kicked off a project at
> >> freelancer.co.uk and I'll pick one of the bidders to see what they come
> >> up with.
> >> 
> >> david
> > 
> > My commission for a new logo at freelancer.co.uk has been completed.
> > The graphic artist came up with a logo to try to emphasize the "leaf"
> > and "framework" aspects, and also something that is different from other
> > "leaf" logos. (Do a Google Images search for "leaf logo" and you get a
> > *lot* of hits!)
> > 
> > I have the full vector-format source for the graphics and have been
> > assigned full copyright (but I will release under the Creative Commons
> > Attribution-ShareAlike license). Before I upload to the "leaf/leaf" Git
> > repository I want to check how the rest of you like the new artwork.
> > 
> > I have uploaded a .png version of the full logo to our Wiki and
> > (temporarily) added it to the Main Page:
> > http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/leaf/index.php?title=Main_Page
> > 
> > I'm also thinking of removing the text and using just the graphic
> > portion in some places (e.g. the Wiki sidebar).
> > 
> > What do you think? I won't be offended (much) if you don't like it :-)
> 
> Hi David;
> 
> I'm (positively) surprised of the result.
> 
> My first impression is that I like the move to a green colorization. The
> logo itself also expresses  a sort of "linking networks".
> I also like the "underline"  I'm not shure about "LEAF" being that
> prominent/huge. But without it, it may look "empty", and something
> smaller might have been tested by the author...
> 
> To summarize: As longer I look at it, the more I like it. And the
> possibility to just use logo itself, or the full one - when appropriate
> - gives enough freedom.
> 
> kp

Hi kp (and Martin Hejl who I see has also replied positively),

I too find it looks better as time passes. Maybe the zoom is too big on
the Wiki main page; I have just scaled it down a little.

As a comparison I have updated the Wiki sidebar logo with just the
graphic, which seems a little "bare" by comparison to the version with
the text. We could add the LEAF text below the graphic, which would also
make it roughly square.

(Note that it is trivial to revert to the old Wiki sidebar logo, which
is still there as the previous version of the sidebar logo file.)

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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF Project Logo - Time for an update?

2012-05-15 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
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On 5/15/2012 2:20 PM, davidMbrooke wrote:
> I have uploaded a .png version of the full logo to our Wiki and 
> (temporarily) added it to the Main Page: 
> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/leaf/index.php?title=Main_Page
>
>  I'm also thinking of removing the text and using just the graphic 
> portion in some places (e.g. the Wiki sidebar).
> 
> What do you think? I won't be offended (much) if you don't like it
> :-)

+1  :)

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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF Project Logo - Time for an update?

2012-05-15 Thread Martin Hejl
Hi David,

of course, I'm only speaking for myself - but I like the logo very much. 
Very generic and simple. To me, it brings across the idea of a framework 
nicely, and the "leaf" idea is very well incorporated as well.

So speaking for myself, I'd be very happy with that logo for LEAF.

Martin

Am 15.05.2012 21:20, schrieb davidMbrooke:
> On Sat, 2012-05-05 at 12:12 +0100, davidMbrooke wrote:
>> No response from Rich (yet) so I've kicked off a project at
>> freelancer.co.uk and I'll pick one of the bidders to see what they come
>> up with.
>>
>> david
>
> My commission for a new logo at freelancer.co.uk has been completed.
> The graphic artist came up with a logo to try to emphasize the "leaf"
> and "framework" aspects, and also something that is different from other
> "leaf" logos. (Do a Google Images search for "leaf logo" and you get a
> *lot* of hits!)
>
> I have the full vector-format source for the graphics and have been
> assigned full copyright (but I will release under the Creative Commons
> Attribution-ShareAlike license). Before I upload to the "leaf/leaf" Git
> repository I want to check how the rest of you like the new artwork.
>
> I have uploaded a .png version of the full logo to our Wiki and
> (temporarily) added it to the Main Page:
> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/leaf/index.php?title=Main_Page
>
> I'm also thinking of removing the text and using just the graphic
> portion in some places (e.g. the Wiki sidebar).
>
> What do you think? I won't be offended (much) if you don't like it :-)
>
> david
>
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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF Project Logo - Time for an update?

2012-05-15 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Am 15.05.2012 21:20, schrieb davidMbrooke:
> On Sat, 2012-05-05 at 12:12 +0100, davidMbrooke wrote:
>> No response from Rich (yet) so I've kicked off a project at
>> freelancer.co.uk and I'll pick one of the bidders to see what they come
>> up with.
>> 
>> david
> 
> My commission for a new logo at freelancer.co.uk has been completed.
> The graphic artist came up with a logo to try to emphasize the "leaf"
> and "framework" aspects, and also something that is different from other
> "leaf" logos. (Do a Google Images search for "leaf logo" and you get a
> *lot* of hits!)
> 
> I have the full vector-format source for the graphics and have been
> assigned full copyright (but I will release under the Creative Commons
> Attribution-ShareAlike license). Before I upload to the "leaf/leaf" Git
> repository I want to check how the rest of you like the new artwork.
> 
> I have uploaded a .png version of the full logo to our Wiki and
> (temporarily) added it to the Main Page:
> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/leaf/index.php?title=Main_Page
> 
> I'm also thinking of removing the text and using just the graphic
> portion in some places (e.g. the Wiki sidebar).
> 
> What do you think? I won't be offended (much) if you don't like it :-)

Hi David;

I'm (positively) surprised of the result.

My first impression is that I like the move to a green colorization. The
logo itself also expresses  a sort of "linking networks".
I also like the "underline"  I'm not shure about "LEAF" being that
prominent/huge. But without it, it may look "empty", and something
smaller might have been tested by the author...

To summarize: As longer I look at it, the more I like it. And the
possibility to just use logo itself, or the full one - when appropriate
- gives enough freedom.

kp

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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF Project Logo - Time for an update?

2012-05-15 Thread davidMbrooke
On Sat, 2012-05-05 at 12:12 +0100, davidMbrooke wrote:
> No response from Rich (yet) so I've kicked off a project at
> freelancer.co.uk and I'll pick one of the bidders to see what they come
> up with.
> 
> david

My commission for a new logo at freelancer.co.uk has been completed.
The graphic artist came up with a logo to try to emphasize the "leaf"
and "framework" aspects, and also something that is different from other
"leaf" logos. (Do a Google Images search for "leaf logo" and you get a
*lot* of hits!)

I have the full vector-format source for the graphics and have been
assigned full copyright (but I will release under the Creative Commons
Attribution-ShareAlike license). Before I upload to the "leaf/leaf" Git
repository I want to check how the rest of you like the new artwork.

I have uploaded a .png version of the full logo to our Wiki and
(temporarily) added it to the Main Page:
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/leaf/index.php?title=Main_Page

I'm also thinking of removing the text and using just the graphic
portion in some places (e.g. the Wiki sidebar).

What do you think? I won't be offended (much) if you don't like it :-)

david


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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF Project Logo - Time for an update?

2012-05-05 Thread davidMbrooke
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 19:41 +0100, david M brooke wrote:
> On 26 Apr 2012, at 16:07, Mike Noyes wrote:
> 
> > On 04/26/2012 07:26 AM, Mike Noyes wrote:
> >> On 04/22/2012 04:45 AM, davidMbrooke wrote:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>> 
> >>> I've added a Software Infobox to our Wikipedia page
> >>> (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/LEAF_Project).
> >>> I was going to upload the LEAF Project Logo but Wikipedia asks *lots* of
> >>> questions about Copyright for image uploads and I'm not clear about
> >>> where our current logo came from and who owns the Copyright.
> >>> The current logo also still says *Firewall* rather than *Framework*.
> >> 
> >> David,
> >> I created the image. I'll make sure the Gimp source is in Git. I never
> >> licensed it. It's for the project.
> > 
> > David,
> > Be aware that I used the Tux logo, so its licence is embedded in our 
> > current logo.
> > 
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tux.png
> > 
> > 
> >> We had a small contest on leaf-devel
> >> to decide on the current logo.
> >> 
> >>> For a while I've been thinking about commissioning a new Logo, so maybe
> >>> now's the time. I'm thinking something easier to read when scaled down,
> >>> and with more of a "LEAF" (of a tree) motif.
> >> 
> >> A vector graphic will scale better, and allow favicon. Inkscape wasn't
> >> available when I created our logo.
> >> 
> >>Example:
> >>http://alpinelinux.org/
> >> 
> >>> Freelance logo designs seem to come in under $50 and I'd be willing to
> >>> pay that myself.
> >> 
> >> Any improvements are most welcome. You may want to talk with Rich Bowen
> >> (aka DrBacchus on Freenode irc #sourceforge) about this, as he is
> >> helping projects with logos.
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
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> 
> Thanks for all the feedback. Not sure where my original email got stuck (I 
> sent it at the weekend, but assumed I'd goofed somehow when it didn't 
> appear). I know Rich Bowen from the LEAF podcast so I'll seek his advice.
> 
> david

No response from Rich (yet) so I've kicked off a project at
freelancer.co.uk and I'll pick one of the bidders to see what they come
up with.

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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF Project Logo - Time for an update?

2012-04-26 Thread david M brooke

On 26 Apr 2012, at 16:07, Mike Noyes wrote:

> On 04/26/2012 07:26 AM, Mike Noyes wrote:
>> On 04/22/2012 04:45 AM, davidMbrooke wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I've added a Software Infobox to our Wikipedia page
>>> (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/LEAF_Project).
>>> I was going to upload the LEAF Project Logo but Wikipedia asks *lots* of
>>> questions about Copyright for image uploads and I'm not clear about
>>> where our current logo came from and who owns the Copyright.
>>> The current logo also still says *Firewall* rather than *Framework*.
>> 
>> David,
>> I created the image. I'll make sure the Gimp source is in Git. I never
>> licensed it. It's for the project.
> 
> David,
> Be aware that I used the Tux logo, so its licence is embedded in our 
> current logo.
> 
>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tux.png
> 
> 
>> We had a small contest on leaf-devel
>> to decide on the current logo.
>> 
>>> For a while I've been thinking about commissioning a new Logo, so maybe
>>> now's the time. I'm thinking something easier to read when scaled down,
>>> and with more of a "LEAF" (of a tree) motif.
>> 
>> A vector graphic will scale better, and allow favicon. Inkscape wasn't
>> available when I created our logo.
>> 
>>  Example:
>>  http://alpinelinux.org/
>> 
>>> Freelance logo designs seem to come in under $50 and I'd be willing to
>>> pay that myself.
>> 
>> Any improvements are most welcome. You may want to talk with Rich Bowen
>> (aka DrBacchus on Freenode irc #sourceforge) about this, as he is
>> helping projects with logos.
>> 
> 
> 
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> https://profiles.google.com/mhnoyes

Thanks for all the feedback. Not sure where my original email got stuck (I sent 
it at the weekend, but assumed I'd goofed somehow when it didn't appear). I 
know Rich Bowen from the LEAF podcast so I'll seek his advice.

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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF Project Logo - Time for an update?

2012-04-26 Thread Mike Noyes
On 04/26/2012 07:26 AM, Mike Noyes wrote:
> On 04/22/2012 04:45 AM, davidMbrooke wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've added a Software Infobox to our Wikipedia page
>> (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/LEAF_Project).
>> I was going to upload the LEAF Project Logo but Wikipedia asks *lots* of
>> questions about Copyright for image uploads and I'm not clear about
>> where our current logo came from and who owns the Copyright.
>> The current logo also still says *Firewall* rather than *Framework*.
>
> David,
> I created the image. I'll make sure the Gimp source is in Git. I never
> licensed it. It's for the project.

David,
Be aware that I used the Tux logo, so its licence is embedded in our 
current logo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tux.png


> We had a small contest on leaf-devel
> to decide on the current logo.
>
>> For a while I've been thinking about commissioning a new Logo, so maybe
>> now's the time. I'm thinking something easier to read when scaled down,
>> and with more of a "LEAF" (of a tree) motif.
>
> A vector graphic will scale better, and allow favicon. Inkscape wasn't
> available when I created our logo.
>
>   Example:
>   http://alpinelinux.org/
>
>> Freelance logo designs seem to come in under $50 and I'd be willing to
>> pay that myself.
>
> Any improvements are most welcome. You may want to talk with Rich Bowen
> (aka DrBacchus on Freenode irc #sourceforge) about this, as he is
> helping projects with logos.
>


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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF Project Logo - Time for an update?

2012-04-26 Thread Mike Noyes
On 04/26/2012 07:36 AM, Mike Noyes wrote:
> On 04/26/2012 07:26 AM, Mike Noyes wrote:
>> On 04/22/2012 04:45 AM, davidMbrooke wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've added a Software Infobox to our Wikipedia page
>>> (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/LEAF_Project).
>>> I was going to upload the LEAF Project Logo but Wikipedia asks *lots* of
>>> questions about Copyright for image uploads and I'm not clear about
>>> where our current logo came from and who owns the Copyright.
>>> The current logo also still says *Firewall* rather than *Framework*.
>>
>> David,
>> I created the image. I'll make sure the Gimp source is in Git.
>
> David,
> The Gimp xcf is already in our Git repository.
>
> http://leaf.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=leaf/leaf;a=tree;f=projectweb
>
>
>> I never
>> licensed it. It's for the project. We had a small contest on leaf-devel
>> to decide on the current logo.
>>
>>> For a while I've been thinking about commissioning a new Logo, so maybe
>>> now's the time. I'm thinking something easier to read when scaled down,
>>> and with more of a "LEAF" (of a tree) motif.
>>
>> A vector graphic will scale better, and allow favicon. Inkscape wasn't
>> available when I created our logo.

https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=inkscape+logo+tutorial
https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=inkscape+leaf
https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=inkscape+leaf+veins
https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=inkscape+leaf+animation

I like the leaf idea. Using the veins of a leaf to represent a network 
is what I had in mind long ago, but I wasn't able to generate something 
that looked respectable. A simple SVG animation of a pulse following the 
leaf veins might be feasible also.

>>  Example:
>>  http://alpinelinux.org/
>>
>>> Freelance logo designs seem to come in under $50 and I'd be willing to
>>> pay that myself.
>>
>> Any improvements are most welcome. You may want to talk with Rich Bowen
>> (aka DrBacchus on Freenode irc #sourceforge) about this, as he is
>> helping projects with logos.
>>
>
>


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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF Project Logo - Time for an update?

2012-04-26 Thread Mike Noyes
On 04/26/2012 07:26 AM, Mike Noyes wrote:
> On 04/22/2012 04:45 AM, davidMbrooke wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've added a Software Infobox to our Wikipedia page
>> (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/LEAF_Project).
>> I was going to upload the LEAF Project Logo but Wikipedia asks *lots* of
>> questions about Copyright for image uploads and I'm not clear about
>> where our current logo came from and who owns the Copyright.
>> The current logo also still says *Firewall* rather than *Framework*.
>
> David,
> I created the image. I'll make sure the Gimp source is in Git.

David,
The Gimp xcf is already in our Git repository.

http://leaf.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=leaf/leaf;a=tree;f=projectweb


> I never
> licensed it. It's for the project. We had a small contest on leaf-devel
> to decide on the current logo.
>
>> For a while I've been thinking about commissioning a new Logo, so maybe
>> now's the time. I'm thinking something easier to read when scaled down,
>> and with more of a "LEAF" (of a tree) motif.
>
> A vector graphic will scale better, and allow favicon. Inkscape wasn't
> available when I created our logo.
>
>   Example:
>   http://alpinelinux.org/
>
>> Freelance logo designs seem to come in under $50 and I'd be willing to
>> pay that myself.
>
> Any improvements are most welcome. You may want to talk with Rich Bowen
> (aka DrBacchus on Freenode irc #sourceforge) about this, as he is
> helping projects with logos.
>


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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF Project Logo - Time for an update?

2012-04-26 Thread Mike Noyes
On 04/22/2012 04:45 AM, davidMbrooke wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've added a Software Infobox to our Wikipedia page
> (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/LEAF_Project).
> I was going to upload the LEAF Project Logo but Wikipedia asks *lots* of
> questions about Copyright for image uploads and I'm not clear about
> where our current logo came from and who owns the Copyright.
> The current logo also still says *Firewall* rather than *Framework*.

David,
I created the image. I'll make sure the Gimp source is in Git. I never 
licensed it. It's for the project. We had a small contest on leaf-devel 
to decide on the current logo.

> For a while I've been thinking about commissioning a new Logo, so maybe
> now's the time. I'm thinking something easier to read when scaled down,
> and with more of a "LEAF" (of a tree) motif.

A vector graphic will scale better, and allow favicon. Inkscape wasn't 
available when I created our logo.

Example:
http://alpinelinux.org/

> Freelance logo designs seem to come in under $50 and I'd be willing to
> pay that myself.

Any improvements are most welcome. You may want to talk with Rich Bowen 
(aka DrBacchus on Freenode irc #sourceforge) about this, as he is 
helping projects with logos.

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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF Project Logo - Time for an update?

2012-04-26 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Am 22.04.2012 13:45, schrieb davidMbrooke:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've added a Software Infobox to our Wikipedia page
> (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/LEAF_Project).
> I was going to upload the LEAF Project Logo but Wikipedia asks *lots* of
> questions about Copyright for image uploads and I'm not clear about
> where our current logo came from and who owns the Copyright.
> The current logo also still says *Firewall* rather than *Framework*.
> 
> For a while I've been thinking about commissioning a new Logo, so maybe
> now's the time. I'm thinking something easier to read when scaled down,
> and with more of a "LEAF" (of a tree) motif. Freelance logo designs seem
> to come in under $50 and I'd be willing to pay that myself.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 

Hi David;

Your mail arrived today, Andrew lives in the future, are you in the
past? probably a simple mail problem...

I'm not aware of any logo at all :), so if you can come up with some
refreshed, it will be fine with me. Most important is indeed the change
from "firewall" to "framework". If the new logo can be used on old (and
new pages, once Mike has make progress with his plans) the better.

kp
Thx for not only spending time, but also willing to spend money.

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[leaf-devel] LEAF Project Logo - Time for an update?

2012-04-26 Thread davidMbrooke
Hi all,

I've added a Software Infobox to our Wikipedia page
(https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/LEAF_Project).
I was going to upload the LEAF Project Logo but Wikipedia asks *lots* of
questions about Copyright for image uploads and I'm not clear about
where our current logo came from and who owns the Copyright.
The current logo also still says *Firewall* rather than *Framework*.

For a while I've been thinking about commissioning a new Logo, so maybe
now's the time. I'm thinking something easier to read when scaled down,
and with more of a "LEAF" (of a tree) motif. Freelance logo designs seem
to come in under $50 and I'd be willing to pay that myself.

Thoughts?

david


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