Re: [leaf-devel] SF Hosted apps retirement

2012-07-21 Thread Mike Noyes
On 07/21/2012 06:29 AM, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
> Am 21.07.2012 15:13, schrieb Mike Noyes:
>> On 07/21/2012 06:05 AM, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
>>> Mike;
>>>
>>> Am 20.07.2012 20:56, schrieb KP Kirchdoerfer:
 Somewhat important:  I've managed to make the current packages page to
 fail and can't access it any longer to add somethin that works.
 Can you please restore
 http://leaf.sourceforge.net/bering-uclibc/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=13&MMN_position=33:33
>>>
>>> Never mind! I've found a way to fix it myself.
>>
>> KP,
>> I just started on this. What was your fix?
>>
>>
>
> Just created a new page and changed the link from the menu.
> The content is mostly done with Martins script, so it's easy to fill it.

KP,
I saw that. To clean things up in the database I deleted the broken page 
in phpwebsite.

> And given that the phpwebpage will be replaced soon, I think the
> quick'n'dirty solution will be fine enough - at least I hope. The
> current CMS IMHO suffers from bitrot here and there.

Agreed.

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Re: [leaf-devel] SF Hosted apps retirement

2012-07-21 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Am 21.07.2012 15:13, schrieb Mike Noyes:
> On 07/21/2012 06:05 AM, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
>> Mike;
>>
>> Am 20.07.2012 20:56, schrieb KP Kirchdoerfer:
>>> Somewhat important:  I've managed to make the current packages page to
>>> fail and can't access it any longer to add somethin that works.
>>> Can you please restore
>>> http://leaf.sourceforge.net/bering-uclibc/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=13&MMN_position=33:33
>>
>> Never mind! I've found a way to fix it myself.
> 
> KP,
> I just started on this. What was your fix?
> 
> 

Just created a new page and changed the link from the menu.
The content is mostly done with Martins script, so it's easy to fill it.

And given that the phpwebpage will be replaced soon, I think the
quick'n'dirty solution will be fine enough - at least I hope. The
current CMS IMHO suffers from bitrot here and there.

kp

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Re: [leaf-devel] SF Hosted apps retirement

2012-07-21 Thread Mike Noyes
On 07/21/2012 06:05 AM, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
> Mike;
>
> Am 20.07.2012 20:56, schrieb KP Kirchdoerfer:
>> Somewhat important:  I've managed to make the current packages page to
>> fail and can't access it any longer to add somethin that works.
>> Can you please restore
>> http://leaf.sourceforge.net/bering-uclibc/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=13&MMN_position=33:33
>
> Never mind! I've found a way to fix it myself.

KP,
I just started on this. What was your fix?


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Re: [leaf-devel] SF Hosted apps retirement

2012-07-21 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Mike;

Am 20.07.2012 20:56, schrieb KP Kirchdoerfer:
> Somewhat important:  I've managed to make the current packages page to
> fail and can't access it any longer to add somethin that works.
> Can you please restore
> http://leaf.sourceforge.net/bering-uclibc/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=13&MMN_position=33:33

Never mind! I've found a way to fix it myself.

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Re: [leaf-devel] SF Hosted apps retirement

2012-07-20 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Am 19.07.2012 21:00, schrieb Mike Noyes:
> On 07/19/2012 11:22 AM, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
>> Am 23.06.2012 20:16, schrieb Mike Noyes:
> -snip-
>>> Tentative plan based on input:
>>>
>>> 1. Wait for SF to implement OpenID for project web.
>>> 2. Wait for SF to resolve Mediawiki issues on project web.
>>> 3. Migrate Mediawiki to project web.
>>> 4. Install Drupal on project web.
>>> 5. Migrate Trac to project web.
>>> 6. When community consensus is reached that the new Drupal install is
>>> sufficient for project website, remove phpWebSite from project web.
>>
>> Hello Mike
>>
>> sounds ok for me.
>>
>> Have you/SF made any progress?
> 
> KP,
> http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/community-docs/Hosted%20Apps%20Retirement/
> Timeline:  Status
> 
> OpenID authentication to SourceForge accounts In-progress, target for 
> completion in July
> 
> Updates to Project web to support appsPlanned for August/September
> 
> Migration Documentation   Ongoing, full completion not expected to be 
> until first two items are complete
> 
> SF URL Shortener  Not yet implemented
> 
> Redirects from old Hosted App locations   Not yet implemented
> 
> Final Hosted Apps Shutdown~one month after above steps are completed, 
> 2012Q4
> 
>> just curious
> 
> 

Thx for the update.

I'm mainly interested how to work with the drupal pages and our scripts
to create the packages page.

Somewhat important:  I've managed to make the current packages page to
fail and can't access it any longer to add somethin that works.
Can you please restore
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/bering-uclibc/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=13&MMN_position=33:33

thx kp


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Re: [leaf-devel] SF Hosted apps retirement

2012-07-19 Thread Mike Noyes
On 07/19/2012 11:22 AM, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
> Am 23.06.2012 20:16, schrieb Mike Noyes:
-snip-
>> Tentative plan based on input:
>>
>> 1. Wait for SF to implement OpenID for project web.
>> 2. Wait for SF to resolve Mediawiki issues on project web.
>> 3. Migrate Mediawiki to project web.
>> 4. Install Drupal on project web.
>> 5. Migrate Trac to project web.
>> 6. When community consensus is reached that the new Drupal install is
>> sufficient for project website, remove phpWebSite from project web.
>
> Hello Mike
>
> sounds ok for me.
>
> Have you/SF made any progress?

KP,
http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/community-docs/Hosted%20Apps%20Retirement/
Timeline:  Status

OpenID authentication to SourceForge accounts   In-progress, target for 
completion in July

Updates to Project web to support apps  Planned for August/September

Migration Documentation Ongoing, full completion not expected to be 
until first two items are complete

SF URL ShortenerNot yet implemented

Redirects from old Hosted App locations Not yet implemented

Final Hosted Apps Shutdown  ~one month after above steps are completed, 
2012Q4

> just curious


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Re: [leaf-devel] SF Hosted apps retirement

2012-07-19 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Am 23.06.2012 20:16, schrieb Mike Noyes:
> On 06/23/2012 10:26 AM, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
>> Hello Mike;
>>
>> Am 23.06.2012 19:00, schrieb Mike Noyes:
>>> On 06/23/2012 08:23 AM, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
 Am 23.06.2012 16:45, schrieb Mike Noyes:
> On 06/23/2012 05:58 AM, Mike Noyes wrote:
>> Everyone,
>> I will migrate Mediawiki and use it  to replace our aging website.
>>
>> Hosted apps retirement
>> *Hosted Apps will go offline permanently on September 1, 2012*
>> http://sourceforge.net/blog/hosted-apps-retirement
>>
>> Migrating MediaWiki from Hosted Apps to Project Web
>> http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/community-docs/Migrating%20MediaWiki%20from%20Hosted%20Apps/
>
> Hosted Apps Retirement
> http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/community-docs/Hosted%20Apps%20Retirement/
> MediaWiki In progress, on hold due to Project web limitation that
> prevents MediaWiki installs of versions 1.17 and later
>
>

 Mike,
 can you explain a bit more?

 They'll close 'hosted apps', but migration is on hold??
>>>
>>> KP,
>>> Correct. They won't close hosted apps until Sep 1 st. They're working on
>>> the fix for Mediawiki, so we shouldn't attempt migration yet.
>>
>> understood.
>>
 How much are we affected? The wiki pages?
>>>
>>> MediaWiki and Trac. We may want to upgrade our project to Allura (SF 2)
>>> allowing track migration to Allura. Trac migration details are fuzzy at
>>> this time. The Allura wiki is integrated with SF it isn't feature
>>> compatible with Mediawiki, so I recommend we migrate Mediawiki to our SF
>>> project web.
>>
>> Ok; speaking for myself I get used to mediawiki for our documentation
>> and Trac in the last two years and dislike an interruption in the
>> workflow this time. The less time I'm spending to adopt myself to a new
>> infrastructure, the more is left to improve the project.
>> So please try to preserve as much as possible :)
> 
> KP,
> With this in mind, see comment below:
> 
 And any chance our old webpages won't be replaced by a wiki? IMHO a wiki
 looks odd as entry point - it's serving well for the documentation though.
>>>
>>> This is possible. SF project web supports multiple mysql databases.
>>>
>>> I think the wiki is a better representation of our project at this time,
>>> and making it the default is advisable. Instead of me trying to generate
>>> the new website off SF, then migrate it to SF like I did last time, I'd
>>> like to work from the SF project web. This will allow creation of our
>>> new drupal? website on the SF project web by our development team,
>>> instead of a single member.
>>
>> So what are you're plans for the website? A transition period based on
>> mediawiki? Why not starting a drupal website ASAP instead of porting
>> current content to a wiki??
> 
> Tentative plan based on input:
> 
> 1. Wait for SF to implement OpenID for project web.
> 2. Wait for SF to resolve Mediawiki issues on project web.
> 3. Migrate Mediawiki to project web.
> 4. Install Drupal on project web.
> 5. Migrate Trac to project web.
> 6. When community consensus is reached that the new Drupal install is 
> sufficient for project website, remove phpWebSite from project web.

Hello Mike

sounds ok for me.

Have you/SF made any progress?

just curious
kp



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Re: [leaf-devel] SF Hosted apps retirement

2012-06-23 Thread Mike Noyes
On 06/23/2012 10:26 AM, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
> Hello Mike;
>
> Am 23.06.2012 19:00, schrieb Mike Noyes:
>> On 06/23/2012 08:23 AM, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
>>> Am 23.06.2012 16:45, schrieb Mike Noyes:
 On 06/23/2012 05:58 AM, Mike Noyes wrote:
> Everyone,
> I will migrate Mediawiki and use it  to replace our aging website.
>
> Hosted apps retirement
> *Hosted Apps will go offline permanently on September 1, 2012*
> http://sourceforge.net/blog/hosted-apps-retirement
>
> Migrating MediaWiki from Hosted Apps to Project Web
> http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/community-docs/Migrating%20MediaWiki%20from%20Hosted%20Apps/

 Hosted Apps Retirement
 http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/community-docs/Hosted%20Apps%20Retirement/
 MediaWiki  In progress, on hold due to Project web limitation that
 prevents MediaWiki installs of versions 1.17 and later


>>>
>>> Mike,
>>> can you explain a bit more?
>>>
>>> They'll close 'hosted apps', but migration is on hold??
>>
>> KP,
>> Correct. They won't close hosted apps until Sep 1 st. They're working on
>> the fix for Mediawiki, so we shouldn't attempt migration yet.
>
> understood.
>
>>> How much are we affected? The wiki pages?
>>
>> MediaWiki and Trac. We may want to upgrade our project to Allura (SF 2)
>> allowing track migration to Allura. Trac migration details are fuzzy at
>> this time. The Allura wiki is integrated with SF it isn't feature
>> compatible with Mediawiki, so I recommend we migrate Mediawiki to our SF
>> project web.
>
> Ok; speaking for myself I get used to mediawiki for our documentation
> and Trac in the last two years and dislike an interruption in the
> workflow this time. The less time I'm spending to adopt myself to a new
> infrastructure, the more is left to improve the project.
> So please try to preserve as much as possible :)

KP,
With this in mind, see comment below:

>>> And any chance our old webpages won't be replaced by a wiki? IMHO a wiki
>>> looks odd as entry point - it's serving well for the documentation though.
>>
>> This is possible. SF project web supports multiple mysql databases.
>>
>> I think the wiki is a better representation of our project at this time,
>> and making it the default is advisable. Instead of me trying to generate
>> the new website off SF, then migrate it to SF like I did last time, I'd
>> like to work from the SF project web. This will allow creation of our
>> new drupal? website on the SF project web by our development team,
>> instead of a single member.
>
> So what are you're plans for the website? A transition period based on
> mediawiki? Why not starting a drupal website ASAP instead of porting
> current content to a wiki??

Tentative plan based on input:

1. Wait for SF to implement OpenID for project web.
2. Wait for SF to resolve Mediawiki issues on project web.
3. Migrate Mediawiki to project web.
4. Install Drupal on project web.
5. Migrate Trac to project web.
6. When community consensus is reached that the new Drupal install is 
sufficient for project website, remove phpWebSite from project web.

Comments and/or suggestions welcome.


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Re: [leaf-devel] SF Hosted apps retirement

2012-06-23 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Hello Mike;

Am 23.06.2012 19:00, schrieb Mike Noyes:
> On 06/23/2012 08:23 AM, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
>> Am 23.06.2012 16:45, schrieb Mike Noyes:
>>> On 06/23/2012 05:58 AM, Mike Noyes wrote:
 Everyone,
 I will migrate Mediawiki and use it  to replace our aging website.

 Hosted apps retirement
 *Hosted Apps will go offline permanently on September 1, 2012*
 http://sourceforge.net/blog/hosted-apps-retirement

 Migrating MediaWiki from Hosted Apps to Project Web
 http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/community-docs/Migrating%20MediaWiki%20from%20Hosted%20Apps/
>>>
>>> Hosted Apps Retirement
>>> http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/community-docs/Hosted%20Apps%20Retirement/
>>> MediaWiki   In progress, on hold due to Project web limitation that
>>> prevents MediaWiki installs of versions 1.17 and later
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Mike,
>> can you explain a bit more?
>>
>> They'll close 'hosted apps', but migration is on hold??
> 
> KP,
> Correct. They won't close hosted apps until Sep 1 st. They're working on 
> the fix for Mediawiki, so we shouldn't attempt migration yet.

understood.

>> How much are we affected? The wiki pages?
> 
> MediaWiki and Trac. We may want to upgrade our project to Allura (SF 2) 
> allowing track migration to Allura. Trac migration details are fuzzy at 
> this time. The Allura wiki is integrated with SF it isn't feature 
> compatible with Mediawiki, so I recommend we migrate Mediawiki to our SF 
> project web.

Ok; speaking for myself I get used to mediawiki for our documentation
and Trac in the last two years and dislike an interruption in the
workflow this time. The less time I'm spending to adopt myself to a new
infrastructure, the more is left to improve the project.
So please try to preserve as much as possible :)

>> And any chance our old webpages won't be replaced by a wiki? IMHO a wiki
>> looks odd as entry point - it's serving well for the documentation though.
> 
> This is possible. SF project web supports multiple mysql databases.
> 
> I think the wiki is a better representation of our project at this time, 
> and making it the default is advisable. Instead of me trying to generate 
> the new website off SF, then migrate it to SF like I did last time, I'd 
> like to work from the SF project web. This will allow creation of our 
> new drupal? website on the SF project web by our development team, 
> instead of a single member.

So what are you're plans for the website? A transition period based on
mediawiki? Why not starting a drupal website ASAP instead of porting
current content to a wiki??

kp




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Re: [leaf-devel] SF Hosted apps retirement

2012-06-23 Thread Mike Noyes
On 06/23/2012 08:23 AM, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
> Am 23.06.2012 16:45, schrieb Mike Noyes:
>> On 06/23/2012 05:58 AM, Mike Noyes wrote:
>>> Everyone,
>>> I will migrate Mediawiki and use it  to replace our aging website.
>>>
>>> Hosted apps retirement
>>> *Hosted Apps will go offline permanently on September 1, 2012*
>>> http://sourceforge.net/blog/hosted-apps-retirement
>>>
>>> Migrating MediaWiki from Hosted Apps to Project Web
>>> http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/community-docs/Migrating%20MediaWiki%20from%20Hosted%20Apps/
>>
>> Hosted Apps Retirement
>> http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/community-docs/Hosted%20Apps%20Retirement/
>> MediaWikiIn progress, on hold due to Project web limitation that
>> prevents MediaWiki installs of versions 1.17 and later
>>
>>
>
> Mike,
> can you explain a bit more?
>
> They'll close 'hosted apps', but migration is on hold??

KP,
Correct. They won't close hosted apps until Sep 1 st. They're working on 
the fix for Mediawiki, so we shouldn't attempt migration yet.

> How much are we affected? The wiki pages?

MediaWiki and Trac. We may want to upgrade our project to Allura (SF 2) 
allowing track migration to Allura. Trac migration details are fuzzy at 
this time. The Allura wiki is integrated with SF it isn't feature 
compatible with Mediawiki, so I recommend we migrate Mediawiki to our SF 
project web.

> And any chance our old webpages won't be replaced by a wiki? IMHO a wiki
> looks odd as entry point - it's serving well for the documentation though.

This is possible. SF project web supports multiple mysql databases.

I think the wiki is a better representation of our project at this time, 
and making it the default is advisable. Instead of me trying to generate 
the new website off SF, then migrate it to SF like I did last time, I'd 
like to work from the SF project web. This will allow creation of our 
new drupal? website on the SF project web by our development team, 
instead of a single member.

> kp

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Re: [leaf-devel] SF Hosted apps retirement

2012-06-23 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Am 23.06.2012 16:45, schrieb Mike Noyes:
> On 06/23/2012 05:58 AM, Mike Noyes wrote:
>> Everyone,
>> I will migrate Mediawiki and use it  to replace our aging website.
>>
>> Hosted apps retirement
>> *Hosted Apps will go offline permanently on September 1, 2012*
>> http://sourceforge.net/blog/hosted-apps-retirement
>>
>> Migrating MediaWiki from Hosted Apps to Project Web
>> http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/community-docs/Migrating%20MediaWiki%20from%20Hosted%20Apps/
> 
> Hosted Apps Retirement
> http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/community-docs/Hosted%20Apps%20Retirement/
> MediaWiki In progress, on hold due to Project web limitation that 
> prevents MediaWiki installs of versions 1.17 and later
> 
> 

Mike,
can you explain a bit more?

They'll close 'hosted apps', but migration is on hold??

How much are we affected? The wiki pages?

And any chance our old webpages won't be replaced by a wiki? IMHO a wiki
looks odd as entry point - it's serving well for the documentation though.

kp


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Re: [leaf-devel] SF Hosted apps retirement

2012-06-23 Thread Mike Noyes
On 06/23/2012 05:58 AM, Mike Noyes wrote:
> Everyone,
> I will migrate Mediawiki and use it  to replace our aging website.
>
> Hosted apps retirement
> *Hosted Apps will go offline permanently on September 1, 2012*
> http://sourceforge.net/blog/hosted-apps-retirement
>
> Migrating MediaWiki from Hosted Apps to Project Web
> http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/community-docs/Migrating%20MediaWiki%20from%20Hosted%20Apps/

Hosted Apps Retirement
http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/community-docs/Hosted%20Apps%20Retirement/
MediaWiki   In progress, on hold due to Project web limitation that 
prevents MediaWiki installs of versions 1.17 and later


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[leaf-devel] SF Hosted apps retirement

2012-06-23 Thread Mike Noyes
Everyone,
I will migrate Mediawiki and use it  to replace our aging website.

Hosted apps retirement
*Hosted Apps will go offline permanently on September 1, 2012*
http://sourceforge.net/blog/hosted-apps-retirement

Migrating MediaWiki from Hosted Apps to Project Web
http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/community-docs/Migrating%20MediaWiki%20from%20Hosted%20Apps/

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