Re: [leaf-user] Bering floppy basics
Dear All Just exactly like Steve said. And Eric .. Yes I got 10 or more Flash-IDE (a.k.a DOM) unused. Sincerely -bino- - Original Message - From: Steve Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Erich Titl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: bino-psn [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LEAF-USER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 4:05 AM Subject: Re: [leaf-user] Bering floppy basics On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 23:43, Erich Titl wrote: Hi Bino At 21:27 27.08.2003 +1200, Steve Wright wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 14:16, bino-psn wrote: Dear Dave. pcengines's product is to plug a CF to an IDE based board. What I need is to plug IDE to a CF based board. What exactly do you want to achieve with this (unless you have tons of IDE flash disks). There is no difference between a CF or an ide flash disk (except maybe that some flash disks are write protectable) The pcengine board has no IDE adapter. An adapter CF-IDE is required to attach a conventional IDE disk to this unit. /steve --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Bering floppy basics
Hi Bino, Steve At 08:35 28.08.2003 +0700, bino-psn wrote: Dear All Just exactly like Steve said. And Eric .. Yes I got 10 or more Flash-IDE (a.k.a DOM) unused. I see, for an embedded system I did not even consider a hard disk as an option. Should you consider swappping DOM's for CF's I might be interested in a few. cheers Erich THINK Püntenstrasse 39 8143 Stallikon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint: BC9A 25BC 3954 3BC8 C024 8D8A B7D4 FF9D 05B8 0A16 --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Bering floppy basics
Hi All, Currently I have no CF-Based Board. I just want to start playing with soekris, thats why i ask about pluging IDE device (HDD,DOM, etc etc) to CF-Based board. Sincerely -bino- - Original Message - From: Erich Titl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: bino-psn [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LEAF-USER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [leaf-user] Bering floppy basics Hi Bino, Steve At 08:35 28.08.2003 +0700, bino-psn wrote: Dear All Just exactly like Steve said. And Eric .. Yes I got 10 or more Flash-IDE (a.k.a DOM) unused. I see, for an embedded system I did not even consider a hard disk as an option. Should you consider swappping DOM's for CF's I might be interested in a few. cheers Erich THINK Püntenstrasse 39 8143 Stallikon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint: BC9A 25BC 3954 3BC8 C024 8D8A B7D4 FF9D 05B8 0A16 --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
RE: [leaf-user] Bering floppy basics
Hi, The 3.5 SBCs from Diamond Point International might meet your needs. The GX1LCD/3.5 has EIDE, CF drive, 2xUSB, 2xRS232, 1x100baseT and some other stuff. The GX1 uses the Geode 300MHz processor. Only needs one 5V rail to operate as well, so only needs a high quality adaptor, not a PSU. I got some specs pdfs if anybody wants them. www.dpie.com James -Original Message- From: bino-psn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 August 2003 09:20 To: LEAF-USER Subject: Re: [leaf-user] Bering floppy basics Hi All, Currently I have no CF-Based Board. I just want to start playing with soekris, thats why i ask about pluging IDE device (HDD,DOM, etc etc) to CF-Based board. Sincerely -bino- - Original Message - From: Erich Titl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: bino-psn [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LEAF-USER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [leaf-user] Bering floppy basics Hi Bino, Steve At 08:35 28.08.2003 +0700, bino-psn wrote: Dear All Just exactly like Steve said. And Eric .. Yes I got 10 or more Flash-IDE (a.k.a DOM) unused. I see, for an embedded system I did not even consider a hard disk as an option. Should you consider swappping DOM's for CF's I might be interested in a few. cheers Erich THINK Püntenstrasse 39 8143 Stallikon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint: BC9A 25BC 3954 3BC8 C024 8D8A B7D4 FF9D 05B8 0A16 --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Bering floppy basics
Dear Dave. pcengines's product is to plug a CF to an IDE based board. What I need is to plug IDE to a CF based board. Sincerely -bino- - Original Message - From: Dave Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'bino-psn' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'LEAF-USER' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 12:05 AM Subject: RE: [leaf-user] Bering floppy basics Is there any adapter so I can plug standard IDE device to a board that only have a CF Interface ? The CompactFlash to IDE adapters available on www.pcengines.ch have a 40pin interface and a CompactFlash socket. Regards, Dave. --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Bering floppy basics
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 14:16, bino-psn wrote: Dear Dave. pcengines's product is to plug a CF to an IDE based board. What I need is to plug IDE to a CF based board. Hi Bino. I have not seen such a device. You might consider using a USB Hard Disk, and attach it with a CF-USB converter, of which there should be plenty. /steve --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Bering floppy basics
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 23:43, Erich Titl wrote: Hi Bino At 21:27 27.08.2003 +1200, Steve Wright wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 14:16, bino-psn wrote: Dear Dave. pcengines's product is to plug a CF to an IDE based board. What I need is to plug IDE to a CF based board. What exactly do you want to achieve with this (unless you have tons of IDE flash disks). There is no difference between a CF or an ide flash disk (except maybe that some flash disks are write protectable) The pcengine board has no IDE adapter. An adapter CF-IDE is required to attach a conventional IDE disk to this unit. /steve --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Bering floppy basics
Dear All. I'm not familiar With CF. I work with SS-IDE (Flash IDE), it's a full IDE with 40-pin interface but no moving parts. Is there any adapter so I can plug standard IDE device to a board that only have a CF Interface ? Sincerely -bino- - Original Message - From: Steve Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Hejl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: LEAF-USER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [leaf-user] Bering floppy basics On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 09:42, Martin Hejl wrote: Hi, Dave, have you used pcengines embedded PCs ? I'm keen on http://www.pcengines.ch/wrap.htm but they seem to be out of stock/production.. If you're going to import it anyway (I'm inferring that from your email address), you could also have a look at www.soekris.com - the Net4801 is a bit more expensive than the pcengines board, but only marginally so (considering the extra features you get - like a second COM port plus a third ethernet port). I'm not keen on the soekris gear. It looks awfully expensive for what it is. The main thing about the wrap1a, is it will take two mini PCI cards onboard, and these cards are only US$50 here (100 bucks local $) which is dead cheap. 12VDC, 0.5A, two 10/100, two miniPCI wireless interfaces.. for around US$250.. ?? nearly unbeatable. 8-/ I wouldn't mind USB too, but a couple of ethernet/wireless bridges on the end of some cat5 is all good.. if not better. /steve --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here:http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/358/0 leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here:http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/358/0 leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
RE: [leaf-user] Bering floppy basics
Hi Steve At 08:50 24.08.2003 +1200, Steve Wright wrote: On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 03:28, Dave Hunt wrote: Look up www.pcengines.ch. Dave, have you used pcengines embedded PCs ? I got one of the pre production models to port Bering to it. It basically works with one major problem still open, the reboot command does not work at all, because the board does not have a keyboard controller. I am delayed in adapting a driver which will overcome this problem, but it is definitely on my list. cheers Erich THINK Püntenstrasse 39 8143 Stallikon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint: BC9A 25BC 3954 3BC8 C024 8D8A B7D4 FF9D 05B8 0A16 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here:http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/358/0 leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
RE: [leaf-user] Bering floppy basics
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 19:22, Erich Titl wrote: Hi Steve At 08:50 24.08.2003 +1200, Steve Wright wrote: On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 03:28, Dave Hunt wrote: Look up www.pcengines.ch. Dave, have you used pcengines embedded PCs ? I got one of the pre production models to port Bering to it. It basically works with one major problem still open, the reboot command does not work at all, because the board does not have a keyboard controller. I am delayed in adapting a driver which will overcome this problem, but it is definitely on my list. Thanks for that info, Erich. I will be keen to hear a result. regards, Steve --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here:http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/358/0 leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Bering floppy basics
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 09:42, Martin Hejl wrote: Hi, Dave, have you used pcengines embedded PCs ? I'm keen on http://www.pcengines.ch/wrap.htm but they seem to be out of stock/production.. If you're going to import it anyway (I'm inferring that from your email address), you could also have a look at www.soekris.com - the Net4801 is a bit more expensive than the pcengines board, but only marginally so (considering the extra features you get - like a second COM port plus a third ethernet port). I'm not keen on the soekris gear. It looks awfully expensive for what it is. The main thing about the wrap1a, is it will take two mini PCI cards onboard, and these cards are only US$50 here (100 bucks local $) which is dead cheap. 12VDC, 0.5A, two 10/100, two miniPCI wireless interfaces.. for around US$250.. ?? nearly unbeatable. 8-/ I wouldn't mind USB too, but a couple of ethernet/wireless bridges on the end of some cat5 is all good.. if not better. /steve --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here:http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/358/0 leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
RE: [leaf-user] Bering floppy basics
I had the same problem, and found that changing the floppy (disk) solved the problem. I re-wrote the image to other floppies. I have noted that the OS is more sensitive to marginal floppies than might be expected. I now format all the disks before writing the image to them, and if there's the slightest problem with the format, trash the floppy. They're just not worth the fuss to save a floppy and lose the data or OS. I've noticed a failure rate of about 80% on some cheap no-name floppies I bought 10 years ago. On the other hand, the name-brand floppies bought at the same time are working nicely. And, on the gripping hand, I'll eventually move the project to a CD. -Original Message- From: Steve Wright [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 15:40 To: LEAF-USER Subject:[leaf-user] Bering floppy basics http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/leaf/Bering_1.2_img_bering-1680.bin With no modifications, this fails with ; Loading initrd.lrp... Boot Failed: please change disks... Just a dud floppy ? TIA, Steve --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here:http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/358/0 leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here:http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/358/0 leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
RE: [leaf-user] Bering floppy basics
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Playle Sent: 23 August 2003 15:13 And, on the gripping hand, I'll eventually move the project to a CD. I've a 4Mb Bering distro put together for wireless (HermesAP, SNMP etc) and I use Compact Flash in a CF/IDE adaptor. All solid state, no moving parts. The other good thing is that a 32Mb CF card AND adapter can be got for about $26 for the pair. £13 for each. FAST boot as well ;) Look up www.pcengines.ch. Cheers, Dave. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here:http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/358/0 leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
RE: [leaf-user] Bering floppy basics
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 03:28, Dave Hunt wrote: Look up www.pcengines.ch. Dave, have you used pcengines embedded PCs ? I'm keen on http://www.pcengines.ch/wrap.htm but they seem to be out of stock/production.. /steve --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here:http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/358/0 leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Bering floppy basics
Hi, Dave, have you used pcengines embedded PCs ? I'm keen on http://www.pcengines.ch/wrap.htm but they seem to be out of stock/production.. If you're going to import it anyway (I'm inferring that from your email address), you could also have a look at www.soekris.com - the Net4801 is a bit more expensive than the pcengines board, but only marginally so (considering the extra features you get - like a second COM port plus a third ethernet port). The Net4801 still needs a kernel patch to boot linux, but its been solid apart from that during all my tests. I have several Net4501 units running without a single problem (they're great units, unless you need a lot of CPU power - like for IPSEC or something like that) By the way - I don't don't have any kind of affiliation with soekris, other than being a happy customer (I looked at the pcengines board too, but I don't really like to order stuff labeled as Alpha status). Martin --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here:http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/358/0 leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Bering floppy basics
On 22 Aug 2003, Steve Wright wrote: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/leaf/Bering_1.2_img_bering-1680.bin With no modifications, this fails with ; Loading initrd.lrp... Boot Failed: please change disks... Just a dud floppy ? Maybe. a) check that the image size is 1720320 bytes. If not, you may have encountered text transfer mode problems or other corruption. b) Unless you are using a program that pre-formats the floppy before writing the image to it, make sure you format the floppy to 1680 before you write the image. The 1440 format will not work. c) Bad floppies happen. Try another. d) Sometimes, bad drives happen. Clean, or replace either the drive you wrote the disk with, or the drive you are reading the disk with. --- Jeff NewmillerThe . . Go Live... DCN:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Basics: ##.#. ##.#. Live Go... Live: OO#.. Dead: OO#.. Playing Research Engineer (Solar/BatteriesO.O#. #.O#. with /Software/Embedded Controllers) .OO#. .OO#. rocks...2k --- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here:http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/358/0 leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
