Re: [LU] 1-1 80 mins

2014-10-04 Thread Rob Heath
Why still no Adryan?!

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What's the point of Luke Murphy,
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Re: [LU] 1-1 80 mins

2014-10-04 Thread Richard Walker
Fucking shite!

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Re: [LU] 1-1 80 mins

2014-10-04 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
Why?
Seemingly we are playing well. New manager ...new team. What for you expect
consistent promotion form?
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 Fucking shite!

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Re: [LU] 1-1 80 mins

2014-10-04 Thread Richard Walker
Fucking shite - I've been on beer since 9. 

 On 4 Oct 2014, at 14:16, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote:
 
 Why?
 Seemingly we are playing well. New manager ...new team. What for you expect 
 consistent promotion form?
 
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 Fucking shite!
 
  On 4 Oct 2014, at 13:53, Wayne ws.callag...@live.co.uk wrote:
 
What's the point of Luke Murphy,
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Re: [LU] 1-1 80 mins

2014-10-04 Thread [broken-address] seanscribe
Mike,

Consistent promotion form is what we had under Redfearn.

Cheers!

Sean

 

 

 

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Why?
Seemingly we are playing well. New manager ...new team. What for you expect
consistent promotion form?
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 Fucking shite!

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What's the point of Luke Murphy,
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Re: [LU] 1-1 80 mins

2014-10-04 Thread Jeremy Adams
Christ I didn't start drinking till I was 13!Coat on.

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Re: [LU] 1-1 80 mins

2014-10-04 Thread Richard Walker
Darko reckoned Cook needed a rest, then took Sloth off for Murphy .

In the plus side he's dragged off Doukara who was shite and out on Morrison who 
I think looks lively.

I thought first half we were the better side but with in cutting edge ,  
Antennuci missed best chances.

I'm too pissed to write anymore all I can say is I thought we were poor and 
Darko is the devil 

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[LU] Sheffield

2014-10-04 Thread Nick
I thought it was a pretty decent game, in which we played reasonably well - 
without looking like world beaters…but being the better side over an average 
and distantly happy to cheat and foul their way through the game, Wednesday.

We had a couple of decent penalty shouts and their keeper pulled off 3 cracking 
saves - 1 from Austin and 2 from Antenucci. Antenucci also had a goal 
disallowed. So all in all it could easily have been 3 points.

Main problem is while we’re retaining possession well, there are times we 
aren’t driving forward with pace and intent. I think this drive is what we 
missed on Wednesday night when Austin didn’t start. Sometimes we slip a ball 
through and a forward is suddenly in on goal (or offside) but it is a rarity. 
We also lack a great deal of width going forward - although as we don’t really 
have any target in the middle, whether getting to the by-line will actually 
achieve anything at the moment is a moot point, so our aim is to work a gap 
down the central channels…tough call sometimes, as it is the most heavily 
defended part of any team’s set up.

The defence looks pretty solid - and that’s the first game I’ve seen Berardi 
finish - the midfield…is a funny one, the 4 against Huddersfield was our best 
combination - Austin, Bianchi, Cook and Mowatt - but today Mowatt, looked 
alright on the ball but was often off the pace of the game and his dead balls 
were hopeless; Sloth I don’t get at all…; Austin and Bianchi had solid games, 
involved all the way through, lots of effort, lots of breaking down Wednesday 
possession and both looked to move us forward when they had the chance. A lot 
of our play stutters because we’re playing so intricately that the movement 
stops being forward, and players begin to receive passes with their back to the 
opposition goal…and the momentum is gone, the opposition are back in numbers. 
We need to be faster out of defence, without it turning into hoof ball. 

The forward line was mobile (Antenucci more so than Doukara), but never really 
able to shake their men. Antenucci is the best forward we have at the moment - 
had one disallowed for an offside and then two well saved, one of which he 
should probably have finished better than he did - he is always moving, has a 
good touch and a reasonable turn of pace. 

Wednesday scored against play, as we had just missed a couple of half chances 
down their end, the ball came down our right and the winger was allowed to 
carry it too far and get in too easy a cross - the fault lay somewhere between 
Bellusci and Byram - the low cross was deflected and part cleared all the way 
across the box to their number 10 who slotted a first time shot low and hard 
back across goal into the far corner - perhaps Silvestri could have done 
better; perhaps he was unsighted a bit. 

The game got physical - lots of off the ball stuff going on, a few bookings, a 
few rash challenges. Bringing on Sharp made us more direct but he did nothing 
of note himself. Then we won a corner, which was swung to the back post and 
fell loose to Bellusci about 12 yards out, who hit a very nicely controlled low 
effort back through the legs of several defenders - so it could have gone 
anywhere, but as it happened it rolled into the far corner with their keeper 
nowhere. 

Things kind of petered out there despite the excitable 24000 crowd. 

SILVESTRI - another solid display, he has good hands and good positional sense; 
seems to dominate his area pretty well - i guess he maybe a little disappointed 
with their goal…

BYRAM - is nothing like his former self at the moment; more involved than of 
late…and seems to be doing OK defensively, but i haven’t seen him drive forward 
and go by his man so far this season, we miss that penetration as a team

BERARDI - had a decent enough game, and managed only a booking; but again, 
doesn’t get across the half way line much

BELLUSCI - reads the game well generally, prone to the odd moment of 
madness/lack of concentration; kept his cool for the goal when he could have 
just lashed it into the crowd

PEARCE - solid, unspectacular

BIANCHI - MOTM for me, always available, slipping loads of little 5 and 10 
yards passes, pushing us forward; covered loads of ground and got his tackles 
in all over the place

AUSTIN - pretty much the same as Bianchi - one pile-driving shot from 30 yards, 
had to be tipped away at full stretch by their keeper (who was their MOTM)

MOWATT - I like him. he can be tidy and effective, but also very one paced

SLOTH - I really fail to see what he brings to the team at all (having said 
that, his half time replacement Murphy did little better)

DOUKARA - its difficult, he looks like he should be bigger stronger and 
altogether more threatening than he actually is…but then also, he is not a bad 
player, but he will quickly become the target of the discontented with the lack 
of goals

ANTENUCCI - good game; mobile, threatening, could have had a couple today with 
a bit 

Re: [LU] Sheffield

2014-10-04 Thread [broken-address] Nicholas Armit
I think this a very fair summary. Couple of things from me though:

* We were not shit as some have said. Some of the football we played 
was better than we have played for a long time. But we are a Championship side 
so cannot keep that up.
* I think Austin is awful. A couple of lung busting runs and odd shot 
does not make up for the late tackles, poor passing and big holes by his 
running all over the place. Not impressed.
* Sloth was better in other games so prepared to give him more time.
* I tried to give Murphy the benefit of the doubt and thought maybe it 
was McDermott's tactics that made him appear the way he is. But even I have had 
enough now. He was so one-paced and non-involved today it was painful. Don't 
want to see him again.
* Morison instead of Adryan? Surely this kid is worth 15-20 minutes?
* I love Bellusci. Nutter yes but that goal was genius. So calm. 
* Didn't think Doukara played that badly myself. I actually thought we 
were better before he went off. The 10 minutes of Beradi and Bellusci losing 
the plot a bit stopped us building up a head of steam for the equalizer (yes I 
know just said I love Bellusci oh well.)
* What is wrong with a sideways and backwards ball? This is what the 
best teams do, they build attacks and wait for the right moment. I am glad we 
are looking to retain the ball. Other teams can't do anything if they don't 
have the ball.
All my opinion of course.

Nick



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Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 12:21 PM
Subject: [LU] Sheffield
 

I thought it was a pretty decent game, in which we played reasonably well - 
without looking like world beaters…but being the better side over an average 
and distantly happy to cheat and foul their way through the game, Wednesday.

We had a couple of decent penalty shouts and their keeper pulled off 3 cracking 
saves - 1 from Austin and 2 from Antenucci. Antenucci also had a goal 
disallowed. So all in all it could easily have been 3 points.

Main problem is while we’re retaining possession well, there are times we 
aren’t driving forward with pace and intent. I think this drive is what we 
missed on Wednesday night when Austin didn’t start. Sometimes we slip a ball 
through and a forward is suddenly in on goal (or offside) but it is a rarity. 
We also lack a great deal of width going forward - although as we don’t really 
have any target in the middle, whether getting to the by-line will actually 
achieve anything at the moment is a moot point, so our aim is to work a gap 
down the central channels…tough call sometimes, as it is the most heavily 
defended part of any team’s set up.

The defence looks pretty solid - and that’s the first game I’ve seen Berardi 
finish - the midfield…is a funny one, the 4 against Huddersfield was our best 
combination - Austin, Bianchi, Cook and Mowatt - but today Mowatt, looked 
alright on the ball but was often off the pace of the game and his dead balls 
were hopeless; Sloth I don’t get at all…; Austin and Bianchi had solid games, 
involved all the way through, lots of effort, lots of breaking down Wednesday 
possession and both looked to move us forward when they had the chance. A lot 
of our play stutters because we’re playing so intricately that the movement 
stops being forward, and players begin to receive passes with their back to the 
opposition goal…and the momentum is gone, the opposition are back in numbers. 
We need to be faster out of defence, without it turning into hoof ball. 

The forward line was mobile (Antenucci more so than Doukara), but never really 
able to shake their men. Antenucci is the best forward we have at the moment - 
had one disallowed for an offside and then two well saved, one of which he 
should probably have finished better than he did - he is always moving, has a 
good touch and a reasonable turn of pace. 

Wednesday scored against play, as we had just missed a couple of half chances 
down their end, the ball came down our right and the winger was allowed to 
carry it too far and get in too easy a cross - the fault lay somewhere between 
Bellusci and Byram - the low cross was deflected and part cleared all the way 
across the box to their number 10 who slotted a first time shot low and hard 
back across goal into the far corner - perhaps Silvestri could have done 
better; perhaps he was unsighted a bit. 

The game got physical - lots of off the ball stuff going on, a few bookings, a 
few rash challenges. Bringing on Sharp made us more direct but he did nothing 
of note himself. Then we won a corner, which was swung to the back post and 
fell loose to Bellusci about 12 yards out, who hit a very nicely controlled low 
effort back through the legs of several defenders - so it could have gone 
anywhere, but as it happened it rolled into the far corner with their keeper 
nowhere. 

Things kind 

Re: [LU] Sheffield

2014-10-04 Thread [broken-address] Nicholas Armit
Interesting interview with Morison:

MORISON ON DERBY DRAW 4.10.14

  
 
MORISON ON DERBY DRAW 4.10.14  
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Subject: Re: [LU] Sheffield
 

I think this a very fair summary. Couple of things from me though:

* We were not shit as some have said. Some of the football we played was 
better than we have played for a long time. But we are a Championship side so 
cannot keep that up.
* I think Austin is awful. A couple of lung busting runs and odd shot does 
not make up for the late tackles, poor passing and big holes by his running all 
over the place. Not impressed.
* Sloth was better in other games so prepared to give him more time.
* I tried to give Murphy the benefit of the doubt and thought maybe it was 
McDermott's tactics that made him appear the way he is. But even I have had 
enough now. He was so one-paced and non-involved today it was painful. Don't 
want to see him again.
* Morison instead of Adryan? Surely this kid is worth 15-20 minutes?
* I love Bellusci. Nutter yes but that goal was genius. So calm. 
* Didn't think Doukara played that badly myself. I actually thought we were 
better before he went off. The 10 minutes of Beradi and Bellusci losing the 
plot a bit stopped us building up a head of steam for the equalizer (yes I know 
just said I love Bellusci oh well.)
* What is wrong with a sideways and backwards ball? This is what the best 
teams do, they build attacks and wait for the right moment. I am glad we are 
looking to retain the ball. Other teams can't do anything if they don't have 
the ball.
All my opinion of course.

Nick



From: Nick n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
To: leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 12:21 PM
Subject: [LU] Sheffield


I thought it was a pretty decent game, in which we played reasonably well - 
without looking like world beaters…but being the better side over an average 
and distantly happy to cheat and foul their way through the game, Wednesday.

We had a couple of decent penalty shouts and their keeper pulled off 3 cracking 
saves - 1 from Austin and 2 from Antenucci. Antenucci also had a goal 
disallowed. So all in all it could easily have been 3 points.

Main problem is while we’re retaining possession well, there are times we 
aren’t driving forward with pace and intent. I think this drive is what we 
missed on Wednesday night when Austin didn’t start. Sometimes we slip a ball 
through and a forward is suddenly in on goal (or offside) but it is a rarity. 
We also lack a great deal of width going forward - although as we don’t really 
have any target in the middle, whether getting to the by-line will actually 
achieve anything at the moment is a moot point, so our aim is to work a gap 
down the central channels…tough call sometimes, as it is the most heavily 
defended part of any team’s set up.

The defence looks pretty solid - and that’s the first game I’ve seen Berardi 
finish - the midfield…is a funny one, the 4 against Huddersfield was our best 
combination - Austin, Bianchi, Cook and Mowatt - but today Mowatt, looked 
alright on the ball but was often off the pace of the game and his dead balls 
were hopeless; Sloth I don’t get at all…; Austin and Bianchi had solid games, 
involved all the way through, lots of effort, lots of breaking down Wednesday 
possession and both looked to move us forward when they had the chance. A lot 
of our play stutters because we’re playing so intricately that the movement 
stops being forward, and players begin to receive passes with their back to the 
opposition goal…and the momentum is gone, the opposition are back in numbers. 
We need to be faster out of defence, without it turning into hoof ball. 

The forward line was mobile (Antenucci more so than Doukara), but never really 
able to shake their men. Antenucci is the best forward we have at the moment - 
had one disallowed for an offside and then two well saved, one of which he 
should probably have finished better than he did - he is always moving, has a 
good touch and a reasonable turn of pace. 

Wednesday scored against play, as we had just missed a couple of half chances 
down their end, the ball came down our right and the winger was allowed to 
carry it too far and get in too easy a cross - the fault lay somewhere between 
Bellusci and Byram - the low cross was deflected and part cleared all the way 
across the box to their number 10 who slotted a first time shot low and hard 
back across goal into the far corner - perhaps Silvestri could have done 
better; perhaps he was unsighted a bit. 

The game got physical - lots of off the ball stuff going on, a few bookings, a 
few rash challenges. Bringing on Sharp made us more direct but he did nothing 
of note himself. Then we 

Re: [LU] Sheffield

2014-10-04 Thread nat...@sky.com
Not much to add and I pretty much agree with you. I thought Austin was MOM 
first half but then ran out of steam in the second. We really got knocked back 
by their against the run of play goal and that led to some really untidy 
football as the game turned very niggly. Not sure who McGuire is and why he 
seems to hate us, but his goal celebrations were well over the top and very 
aggressive towards the crowd and should have brought a yellow - I normally 
stick up for players who give the crowd stick, I hate it when fans give a 
player 90mins of abuse, sometimes pretty vile and then moan when he sticks 2 
fingers up at them or whatever, but I really did not get what the crack was 
with McGuire, one of my mates suggested it was little man syndrome. He did get 
under the skin of the players though and both Berardi and Bellusci got booked 
because of him - Bellusci running 20yds to get in his face after McGuire pulled 
his tongue out at the crowd. Love Bellusci , he
 really is the epitome of 'heart of his sleeve' but his touch and ability is 
second to none, he took his goal brilliantly. He will be the cult hero of this 
team - love him one minute, frustrated by him the next.
I said pre match that I would give Murphy one last chance, the team he was 
brought into last season was poor, and today was it - he brought nothing at all 
to the party and I would be happy to never see him play for us again - a real 
shame, since I had such high hopes.
Doukara, I like him and think he will be a success, yes he kept the ball too 
long too often and ended up losing it, going into blind alleys but I  thought 
he caused them a lot of problems first half, though faded in the second. On a 
different day Antenucci would have had a hat trick - I have heard he was 
offside for the one he put in, he did well with the lob that was cleared off 
the line, should have scored when 1 on 1 just before they scored but it was a 
good save, had a great shot just after that brought a top class save from the 
keeper.
Bianchi is one of those unsung heroes that divides opinion, I thought he was 
OK, one of my mates thought he was good, another that he was awful ! Take your 
pick, I think he does the simple things well and keeps things ticking over but 
may only be really appreciated when we play a game without him.
Overall a lot more things to be happy with than despondent - as I have said all 
along we are a work in progress, a lack of width is our biggest flaw.
Darko now has the best part of 2 weeks to put his stamp on things and hopefully 
get Byram back to what he can be and decide if Adryan is worthy of a place in 
the team or not - the crowd are desperate to see him
So plenty of good crisp passing, some errors and lots to work on, but no reason 
why we cannot do what I wanted from the season, tick along nicely in midtable 
with the belief / hope that a good run will get us into the play offs

Dave



 

I think this a very fair summary. Couple of things from me though:

* We were not shit as some have said. Some of the football we played was 
better than we have played for a long time. But we are a Championship side so 
cannot keep that up.
* I think Austin is awful. A couple of lung busting runs and odd shot does 
not make up for the late tackles, poor passing and big holes by his running all 
over the place. Not impressed.
* Sloth was better in other games so prepared to give him more time.
* I tried to give Murphy the benefit of the doubt and thought maybe it was 
McDermott's tactics that made him appear the way he is. But even I have had 
enough now. He was so one-paced and non-involved today it was painful. Don't 
want to see him again.
* Morison instead of Adryan? Surely this kid is worth 15-20 minutes?
* I love Bellusci. Nutter yes but that goal was genius. So calm. 
* Didn't think Doukara played that badly myself. I actually thought we were 
better before he went off. The 10 minutes of Beradi and Bellusci losing the 
plot a bit stopped us building up a head of steam for the equalizer (yes I know 
just said I love Bellusci oh well.)
* What is wrong with a sideways and backwards ball? This is what the best 
teams do, they build attacks and wait for the right moment. I am glad we are 
looking to retain the ball. Other teams can't do anything if they don't have 
the ball.
All my opinion of course.

Nick



From: Nick n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
To: leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 12:21 PM
Subject: [LU] Sheffield


I thought it was a pretty decent game, in which we played reasonably well - 
without looking like world beaters…but being the better side over an average 
and distantly happy to cheat and foul their way through the game, Wednesday.

We had a couple of decent penalty shouts and their keeper pulled off 3 cracking 
saves - 1 from Austin and 2 from Antenucci. Antenucci also had a goal 
disallowed.