Re: [LU] next manager

[John Boocock]

is he still available?


On 08/01/2018 13:45, Chris Nickson wrote:

Chris Grayling?


On 8 Jan 2018, at 13:37, John Boocock  wrote:

So who do we think will be the next person to have the keys to the stationery 
cupboard in the Elland Road manager's office?

Betty
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Re: [LU] Saiz - accepted 6 game ban and has issued this 'apology'

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Not good enough - dirty little bastard !

Sent from my iPhone

> On 8 Jan 2018, at 14:19, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
> 
> I would like to take this opportunity to sincerely apologise to the players, 
> staff and supporters of Leeds United for my behaviour in yesterday’s game at 
> Newport County AFC. I would also like to apologise to Newport County AFC and 
> Robbie Willmott for my actions.I accept the punishment handed to me by The 
> FA.My actions are inexcusable, I give my word to all those connected to Leeds 
> United Football Club that I will learn from this situation and never repeat 
> it.I am grateful for the support I receive from our fans and I understand 
> that I am a role model to the next generation of Leeds supporters, I will 
> ensure that my behaviour moving forward reflects that.
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Re: [LU] Saiz - accepted 6 game ban and has issued this 'apology'

[Matt Anderson]

 He could work in the PR office while he is suspended!! Looks like he has a 
talent for it.

Agree with Dave though, 6 games seems harsh when you can get 3 for breaking 
someone's leg and only 9 was it for racially abusing or biting someone like 
Suarez 

> On 8 Jan 2018, at 17:52, {broken-address} 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’ll say one thing, his English is bloody good :-)
> 
> Quite why he needed reminding that spitting is disgusting is another thing 
> though.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 8 Jan 2018, at 14:19, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
>> 
>> I would like to take this opportunity to sincerely apologise to the players, 
>> staff and supporters of Leeds United for my behaviour in yesterday’s game at 
>> Newport County AFC. I would also like to apologise to Newport County AFC and 
>> Robbie Willmott for my actions.I accept the punishment handed to me by The 
>> FA.My actions are inexcusable, I give my word to all those connected to 
>> Leeds United Football Club that I will learn from this situation and never 
>> repeat it.I am grateful for the support I receive from our fans and I 
>> understand that I am a role model to the next generation of Leeds 
>> supporters, I will ensure that my behaviour moving forward reflects that.
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Re: [LU] Saiz - accepted 6 game ban and has issued this 'apology'

[{broken-address}]

I’ll say one thing, his English is bloody good :-)

Quite why he needed reminding that spitting is disgusting is another thing 
though.

Sent from my iPad

> On 8 Jan 2018, at 14:19, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
> 
> I would like to take this opportunity to sincerely apologise to the players, 
> staff and supporters of Leeds United for my behaviour in yesterday’s game at 
> Newport County AFC. I would also like to apologise to Newport County AFC and 
> Robbie Willmott for my actions.I accept the punishment handed to me by The 
> FA.My actions are inexcusable, I give my word to all those connected to Leeds 
> United Football Club that I will learn from this situation and never repeat 
> it.I am grateful for the support I receive from our fans and I understand 
> that I am a role model to the next generation of Leeds supporters, I will 
> ensure that my behaviour moving forward reflects that.
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[LU] Newport

[{broken-address} Philip]

After last year at Sutton I thought we were done with all the crap. Then Monk 
disrespected the fans who has made the trip and now TC has done exactly the 
same. If Tottenham can play Harry Kane then I am sure that Leeds could have 
fielded a strong team - and not the team that they did. TC said that against 
Burnley he made 10 changes what he did not say that it was a mid week game and 
not a game when they had a week to rest before the next game. If it has shown 
us one thing it is that the like of Lasogga, Grot Chik and a few others should 
not be even in same post code as a Leeds Untied shirt.
Phil
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[LU] Newport

[Graham Farr]

To start a game against some big lumps with no recognised centre-half is just 
bad management to me.

Our two were a full back and a (converted ?) midfielder.

Hope the club give all those there a full refund.

Also.when ST renewals come out..insist that you will not renew 
unless the club put it it writing that next year's
3rd round tie LUFC will field the first team.

I like the FA Cup.always have.and even though we are shit at it...I 
want to have a good run in it.



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Re: [LU] LU Newport

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

 Lasogga is a curious one. He did start well but then went downhill. He played 
for Hamburg in the Bundesliga which is a far superior standard to the 
Championship, but the last couple of games (though I disagree he is not trying 
he seemed to be trying too hard yesterday) he looks poor.
Grot just looks bloody awful.
Nick
On Monday, January 8, 2018, 10:36:17 AM EST, David Smail 
 wrote:  
 
 I was never thinking of sacking TC over this - just frustrated that he fell 
into the same hole as Monk re team selection. Had we played a full strength 
team, I imagine there might  have been a different result. I know the league 
and promotion are everything to a club like ours, but it's not as though we had 
a mid week game coming up, simply TC not wanting to risk regular first team 
players and the idea that previous Cup games had gone well with this set up. 

Even if we do badly in our next few league games, the season is far from a 
failure if we can repeat the turn around after our shocking 7 defeats on the 
trot or whatever it was - although the gap might be too large by then. 

Lasogga and Grot (especially) are not up to it (I won't leave this...) I don't 
blame them, I point the finger at the establishment that invited them in. May 
the same process admit it's wrong doing and reverse it,  quickly!

 

Dave

 

 

 

From: nat...@sky.com [mailto:nat...@sky.com] 
Sent: 08 January 2018 11:21
To: David Smail; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] LU Newport

 

I have been getting a lot of stick today based on the performance / result 
yesterday - as I told them all I am used to it - Histon, Sutton over the last 
few years.

 

I think it is different from last year v Sutton when Monk , to try and prove a 
point, picked a load of no-hope kids etc, TC has picked a team full of squad 
players, albeit very few actual "first teamers"

 

TC has explained the selection stating that is is very much the same thinking 
that got us 5 1 results v Newport & Port Vale and a winning draw v Burnley and 
a decent performance at Leicester. There is some truth in this and if we had 
won I think most fans would have been OK with it.

 

When I saw the team I was content with it - I did worry and in fact pointed out 
on here- that the bench only had Saiz who could come on and change things if 
the scoreline was going against us (I did not think Saiz would manage to not 
touch the ball when he came on)

 

It is just how things are these days - the League is all important and all 
teams in the top two Divisions load their team with squad players

We should have had enough quality to overcome 4th division opponents and enough 
players should have been trying to impress and force their way into the first 
team to have a high degree of commitment.

 

It all depends now on how we re-act - last time under Monk his plan backfired, 
he was not given more money to strenghten the squad and the defeat seemed to 
knock some of the stuffing out of the first team players,  even though they did 
not play, and led a lot of fans to fall out with Monk

 

Hopefully the performance of Lassogga and Grot will mean that TC (and Orta) 
change their minds about the need for another striker - Lassogga is lazy and 
Grot needs to go out on loan or play for the u23s for a bit to see if there is 
an actual player in there or not - he is nowhere near first team level at this 
point. 

It should confirm the decision to get rid of Brothwick Jackson if we can - and 
bring in the Belgian left back. It also shows that Anita is not a left back - 
he was given a torrid time from Nouble(sp)

I have no idea why Pennington did not play - Everton are out of the cup so 
having him cup tied does not seem to be a problem.

 

It should stop fans asking why Klitch is not getting a game etc

 

For me, I was content when I saw the team and in my ideal scenario we would get 
two or three up with goals from Lassogga and 2 from Grot (to get their 
confidence up) and then Clarke could come on a get a 4th (laid on by Rey !) and 
things would look great - this is far from what happened and with Saiz looking 
at a 6 week ban we have a lot of problems

 

It is still much too soon to sack TC but it does increase the pressure on him, 
and a win at Ipswich will assign yesterday to the history books - a defeat 
there and a bad result v Millwall and the whole season will collapse

 

Dave

  _  

From: David Smail 
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Cc: 'Rob Gillard' 
Sent: Monday, 8 January 2018, 2:48
Subject: [LU] LU Newport

 

I am ashamed of Leeds United today - and that's strong words. Is that TC's

undiplomatic way of saying were not interested in the FA Cup? Perhaps he was

pleased in some demented way with how it all panned out and today's result

is a secret success in his book although he'd never admit it.  Our passing

was awful and embarrassing and we couldn't contain Newport. I saw this

result coming a mile 

Re: [LU] LU Newport

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

 I think if just Jansson had played instead of Shaughnessy we would not have 
lost that game.
On Monday, January 8, 2018, 10:36:17 AM EST, David Smail 
 wrote:  
 
 I was never thinking of sacking TC over this - just frustrated that he fell 
into the same hole as Monk re team selection. Had we played a full strength 
team, I imagine there might  have been a different result. I know the league 
and promotion are everything to a club like ours, but it's not as though we had 
a mid week game coming up, simply TC not wanting to risk regular first team 
players and the idea that previous Cup games had gone well with this set up. 

Even if we do badly in our next few league games, the season is far from a 
failure if we can repeat the turn around after our shocking 7 defeats on the 
trot or whatever it was - although the gap might be too large by then. 

Lasogga and Grot (especially) are not up to it (I won't leave this...) I don't 
blame them, I point the finger at the establishment that invited them in. May 
the same process admit it's wrong doing and reverse it,  quickly!

 

Dave

 

 

 

From: nat...@sky.com [mailto:nat...@sky.com] 
Sent: 08 January 2018 11:21
To: David Smail; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] LU Newport

 

I have been getting a lot of stick today based on the performance / result 
yesterday - as I told them all I am used to it - Histon, Sutton over the last 
few years.

 

I think it is different from last year v Sutton when Monk , to try and prove a 
point, picked a load of no-hope kids etc, TC has picked a team full of squad 
players, albeit very few actual "first teamers"

 

TC has explained the selection stating that is is very much the same thinking 
that got us 5 1 results v Newport & Port Vale and a winning draw v Burnley and 
a decent performance at Leicester. There is some truth in this and if we had 
won I think most fans would have been OK with it.

 

When I saw the team I was content with it - I did worry and in fact pointed out 
on here- that the bench only had Saiz who could come on and change things if 
the scoreline was going against us (I did not think Saiz would manage to not 
touch the ball when he came on)

 

It is just how things are these days - the League is all important and all 
teams in the top two Divisions load their team with squad players

We should have had enough quality to overcome 4th division opponents and enough 
players should have been trying to impress and force their way into the first 
team to have a high degree of commitment.

 

It all depends now on how we re-act - last time under Monk his plan backfired, 
he was not given more money to strenghten the squad and the defeat seemed to 
knock some of the stuffing out of the first team players,  even though they did 
not play, and led a lot of fans to fall out with Monk

 

Hopefully the performance of Lassogga and Grot will mean that TC (and Orta) 
change their minds about the need for another striker - Lassogga is lazy and 
Grot needs to go out on loan or play for the u23s for a bit to see if there is 
an actual player in there or not - he is nowhere near first team level at this 
point. 

It should confirm the decision to get rid of Brothwick Jackson if we can - and 
bring in the Belgian left back. It also shows that Anita is not a left back - 
he was given a torrid time from Nouble(sp)

I have no idea why Pennington did not play - Everton are out of the cup so 
having him cup tied does not seem to be a problem.

 

It should stop fans asking why Klitch is not getting a game etc

 

For me, I was content when I saw the team and in my ideal scenario we would get 
two or three up with goals from Lassogga and 2 from Grot (to get their 
confidence up) and then Clarke could come on a get a 4th (laid on by Rey !) and 
things would look great - this is far from what happened and with Saiz looking 
at a 6 week ban we have a lot of problems

 

It is still much too soon to sack TC but it does increase the pressure on him, 
and a win at Ipswich will assign yesterday to the history books - a defeat 
there and a bad result v Millwall and the whole season will collapse

 

Dave

  _  

From: David Smail 
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Cc: 'Rob Gillard' 
Sent: Monday, 8 January 2018, 2:48
Subject: [LU] LU Newport

 

I am ashamed of Leeds United today - and that's strong words. Is that TC's

undiplomatic way of saying were not interested in the FA Cup? Perhaps he was

pleased in some demented way with how it all panned out and today's result

is a secret success in his book although he'd never admit it.  Our passing

was awful and embarrassing and we couldn't contain Newport. I saw this

result coming a mile away but not the way it happened.  All our supporters

making the trip and paying their money - what an insult to them, our club

and the competition itself. I'm waiting for an apology TC - why have you

kept so quiet after the 

Re: [LU] LU Newport

[David Smail]

I was never thinking of sacking TC over this - just frustrated that he fell 
into the same hole as Monk re team selection. Had we played a full strength 
team, I imagine there might  have been a different result. I know the league 
and promotion are everything to a club like ours, but it's not as though we had 
a mid week game coming up, simply TC not wanting to risk regular first team 
players and the idea that previous Cup games had gone well with this set up. 

Even if we do badly in our next few league games, the season is far from a 
failure if we can repeat the turn around after our shocking 7 defeats on the 
trot or whatever it was - although the gap might be too large by then. 

Lasogga and Grot (especially) are not up to it (I won't leave this...) I don't 
blame them, I point the finger at the establishment that invited them in. May 
the same process admit it's wrong doing and reverse it,  quickly!

 

Dave

 

 

 

From: nat...@sky.com [mailto:nat...@sky.com] 
Sent: 08 January 2018 11:21
To: David Smail; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] LU Newport

 

I have been getting a lot of stick today based on the performance / result 
yesterday - as I told them all I am used to it - Histon, Sutton over the last 
few years.

 

I think it is different from last year v Sutton when Monk , to try and prove a 
point, picked a load of no-hope kids etc, TC has picked a team full of squad 
players, albeit very few actual "first teamers"

 

TC has explained the selection stating that is is very much the same thinking 
that got us 5 1 results v Newport & Port Vale and a winning draw v Burnley and 
a decent performance at Leicester. There is some truth in this and if we had 
won I think most fans would have been OK with it.

 

When I saw the team I was content with it - I did worry and in fact pointed out 
on here- that the bench only had Saiz who could come on and change things if 
the scoreline was going against us (I did not think Saiz would manage to not 
touch the ball when he came on)

 

It is just how things are these days - the League is all important and all 
teams in the top two Divisions load their team with squad players

We should have had enough quality to overcome 4th division opponents and enough 
players should have been trying to impress and force their way into the first 
team to have a high degree of commitment.

 

It all depends now on how we re-act - last time under Monk his plan backfired, 
he was not given more money to strenghten the squad and the defeat seemed to 
knock some of the stuffing out of the first team players,  even though they did 
not play, and led a lot of fans to fall out with Monk

 

Hopefully the performance of Lassogga and Grot will mean that TC (and Orta) 
change their minds about the need for another striker - Lassogga is lazy and 
Grot needs to go out on loan or play for the u23s for a bit to see if there is 
an actual player in there or not - he is nowhere near first team level at this 
point. 

It should confirm the decision to get rid of Brothwick Jackson if we can - and 
bring in the Belgian left back. It also shows that Anita is not a left back - 
he was given a torrid time from Nouble(sp)

I have no idea why Pennington did not play - Everton are out of the cup so 
having him cup tied does not seem to be a problem.

 

It should stop fans asking why Klitch is not getting a game etc

 

For me, I was content when I saw the team and in my ideal scenario we would get 
two or three up with goals from Lassogga and 2 from Grot (to get their 
confidence up) and then Clarke could come on a get a 4th (laid on by Rey !) and 
things would look great - this is far from what happened and with Saiz looking 
at a 6 week ban we have a lot of problems

 

It is still much too soon to sack TC but it does increase the pressure on him, 
and a win at Ipswich will assign yesterday to the history books - a defeat 
there and a bad result v Millwall and the whole season will collapse

 

Dave

  _  

From: David Smail 
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Cc: 'Rob Gillard' 
Sent: Monday, 8 January 2018, 2:48
Subject: [LU] LU Newport

 

I am ashamed of Leeds United today - and that's strong words. Is that TC's

undiplomatic way of saying were not interested in the FA Cup? Perhaps he was

pleased in some demented way with how it all panned out and today's result

is a secret success in his book although he'd never admit it.  Our passing

was awful and embarrassing and we couldn't contain Newport. I saw this

result coming a mile away but not the way it happened.  All our supporters

making the trip and paying their money - what an insult to them, our club

and the competition itself. I'm waiting for an apology TC - why have you

kept so quiet after the game? Have you no thoughts, opinions  or comments?

At least the likes of Villa went out to lower league competition with some

style and grace and looked like they were bothered. 

 

 

 

As 

[LU] Saiz - accepted 6 game ban and has issued this 'apology'

[nat...@sky.com]

I would like to take this opportunity to sincerely apologise to the players, 
staff and supporters of Leeds United for my behaviour in yesterday’s game at 
Newport County AFC. I would also like to apologise to Newport County AFC and 
Robbie Willmott for my actions.I accept the punishment handed to me by The 
FA.My actions are inexcusable, I give my word to all those connected to Leeds 
United Football Club that I will learn from this situation and never repeat 
it.I am grateful for the support I receive from our fans and I understand that 
I am a role model to the next generation of Leeds supporters, I will ensure 
that my behaviour moving forward reflects that.
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Re: [LU] next manager

[Chris Nickson]

Chris Grayling?

> On 8 Jan 2018, at 13:37, John Boocock  wrote:
> 
> So who do we think will be the next person to have the keys to the stationery 
> cupboard in the Elland Road manager's office?
> 
> Betty
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[LU] next manager

[John Boocock]

So who do we think will be the next person to have the keys to the 
stationery cupboard in the Elland Road manager's office?


Betty
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[LU] Saiz 6 game ban

[nat...@sky.com]

YEP saying that Saiz (subject to any appeal) has got a mandatory six match ban 
for spitting
Now I find spitting at someone a disgusting an awful thing to do and I do not 
want to appear to be condoning it in any way at all, but it does seem odd that 
a red card for violent conduct -a punch, an elbow a leg breaking foul- gets a 3 
game ban and spitting gets double that 

TO those out there who say they would prefer to be punched than spat at I would 
suggest you have never been punched !Yes spitting at someone is horrible and 
nasty but generally a quick wipe of the face (or in this case his shirt) and it 
is is sorted. A punch to the face and it could be a black eye or stitches and a 
permanent scar etc
Whatever, the rules are there and I doubt we will appeal (there are stories 
that Saiz was tripped as he went back to the centre circle and /or he was 
elbowed and therefore the spit was retaliation) and I don't think we would win 
an appeal
We now need two things - one Pablo to come to the party week in week out, and 
two Saiz to learn from it
davePS it looks like the left back from Belgian is sorted (subject to medical) 
and the Japanese lad will get a work permit, but is still, somewhat 
surprisingly, going out on loan in Spain- to me if he can play in England he 
shoud do so, either for us if good enough now, or on loan in a lower league
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Re: [LU] LU Newport

[Peter Castlehouse]

Being away from my home base - and actually in Leeds for the last five days for 
a family bereavement - I have not had chance to keep up with the daily 
Yorkshire weather forecasts, never mind how the Leeds team were travelling, but 
now that I am back in my chosen place that I call home, I can only pass on 
sincere gratitude and thanks to Dave Nattan for the excellent and totally 
informed reports he provides us all via this list.   If it wasn't for Dave's 
selfless commentary, I would have to resort to tabloid reports.
Thanks Dave, please keep up the fantastic work that you do, for as long as you 
feel inclined to do so;  for as long as you can and; for as long as you still 
have the passion for our club and email list.  I salute you.   Even if the 
results lately are shit

Pete C

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From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 08 January 2018 22:21
To: David Smail ; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] LU Newport

I have been getting a lot of stick today based on the performance / result 
yesterday - as I told them all I am used to it - Histon, Sutton over the last 
few years.
I think it is different from last year v Sutton when Monk , to try and prove a 
point, picked a load of no-hope kids etc, TC has picked a team full of squad 
players, albeit very few actual "first teamers"

TC has explained the selection stating that is is very much the same thinking 
that got us 5 1 results v Newport & Port Vale and a winning draw v Burnley and 
a decent performance at Leicester. There is some truth in this and if we had 
won I think most fans would have been OK with it.
When I saw the team I was content with it - I did worry and in fact pointed out 
on here- that the bench only had Saiz who could come on and change things if 
the scoreline was going against us (I did not think Saiz would manage to not 
touch the ball when he came on) It is just how things are these days - the 
League is all important and all teams in the top two Divisions load their team 
with squad playersWe should have had enough quality to overcome 4th division 
opponents and enough players should have been trying to impress and force their 
way into the first team to have a high degree of commitment.
It all depends now on how we re-act - last time under Monk his plan backfired, 
he was not given more money to strenghten the squad and the defeat seemed to 
knock some of the stuffing out of the first team players,  even though they did 
not play, and led a lot of fans to fall out with Monk Hopefully the performance 
of Lassogga and Grot will mean that TC (and Orta) change their minds about the 
need for another striker - Lassogga is lazy and Grot needs to go out on loan or 
play for the u23s for a bit to see if there is an actual player in there or not 
- he is nowhere near first team level at this point. 
It should confirm the decision to get rid of Brothwick Jackson if we can - and 
bring in the Belgian left back. It also shows that Anita is not a left back - 
he was given a torrid time from Nouble(sp)I have no idea why Pennington did not 
play - Everton are out of the cup so having him cup tied does not seem to be a 
problem.
It should stop fans asking why Klitch is not getting a game etc For me, I was 
content when I saw the team and in my ideal scenario we would get two or three 
up with goals from Lassogga and 2 from Grot (to get their confidence up) and 
then Clarke could come on a get a 4th (laid on by Rey !) and things would look 
great - this is far from what happened and with Saiz looking at a 6 week ban we 
have a lot of problems It is still much too soon to sack TC but it does 
increase the pressure on him, and a win at Ipswich will assign yesterday to the 
history books - a defeat there and a bad result v Millwall and the whole season 
will collapse Dave
  From: David Smail 
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Cc: 'Rob Gillard' 
 Sent: Monday, 8 January 2018, 2:48
 Subject: [LU] LU Newport
   
I am ashamed of Leeds United today - and that's strong words. Is that TC's 
undiplomatic way of saying were not interested in the FA Cup? Perhaps he was 
pleased in some demented way with how it all panned out and today's result is a 
secret success in his book although he'd never admit it.  Our passing was awful 
and embarrassing and we couldn't contain Newport. I saw this result coming a 
mile away but not the way it happened.  All our supporters making the trip and 
paying their money - what an insult to them, our club and the competition 
itself. I'm waiting for an apology TC - why have you kept so quiet after the 
game? Have you no thoughts, opinions  or comments?
At least the likes of Villa went out to lower league competition with some 
style and grace and looked like they were bothered. 

 

As already mentioned, if we scrape the play offs all this will be forgotten and 
forgivenonly  to a point, 

[LU] Newport again

[nat...@sky.com]

WowMinutes after posting my post match thoughts i clicked on the Square Ball 
and read what Moscow White had written - he could sue me for plagerism so many 
of our points are the same if not for the fact that my pc will show I posted to 
the list BEFORE I read it
I think we are 99% in agreement - our only divergence in opinion is Klitch whom 
he gives more credit to than I did
Dave
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Re: [LU] LU Newport

[nat...@sky.com]

I have been getting a lot of stick today based on the performance / result 
yesterday - as I told them all I am used to it - Histon, Sutton over the last 
few years.
I think it is different from last year v Sutton when Monk , to try and prove a 
point, picked a load of no-hope kids etc, TC has picked a team full of squad 
players, albeit very few actual "first teamers"

TC has explained the selection stating that is is very much the same thinking 
that got us 5 1 results v Newport & Port Vale and a winning draw v Burnley and 
a decent performance at Leicester. There is some truth in this and if we had 
won I think most fans would have been OK with it.
When I saw the team I was content with it - I did worry and in fact pointed out 
on here- that the bench only had Saiz who could come on and change things if 
the scoreline was going against us (I did not think Saiz would manage to not 
touch the ball when he came on)
It is just how things are these days - the League is all important and all 
teams in the top two Divisions load their team with squad playersWe should have 
had enough quality to overcome 4th division opponents and enough players should 
have been trying to impress and force their way into the first team to have a 
high degree of commitment.
It all depends now on how we re-act - last time under Monk his plan backfired, 
he was not given more money to strenghten the squad and the defeat seemed to 
knock some of the stuffing out of the first team players,  even though they did 
not play, and led a lot of fans to fall out with Monk
Hopefully the performance of Lassogga and Grot will mean that TC (and Orta) 
change their minds about the need for another striker - Lassogga is lazy and 
Grot needs to go out on loan or play for the u23s for a bit to see if there is 
an actual player in there or not - he is nowhere near first team level at this 
point. 
It should confirm the decision to get rid of Brothwick Jackson if we can - and 
bring in the Belgian left back. It also shows that Anita is not a left back - 
he was given a torrid time from Nouble(sp)I have no idea why Pennington did not 
play - Everton are out of the cup so having him cup tied does not seem to be a 
problem.
It should stop fans asking why Klitch is not getting a game etc
For me, I was content when I saw the team and in my ideal scenario we would get 
two or three up with goals from Lassogga and 2 from Grot (to get their 
confidence up) and then Clarke could come on a get a 4th (laid on by Rey !) and 
things would look great - this is far from what happened and with Saiz looking 
at a 6 week ban we have a lot of problems
It is still much too soon to sack TC but it does increase the pressure on him, 
and a win at Ipswich will assign yesterday to the history books - a defeat 
there and a bad result v Millwall and the whole season will collapse
Dave
  From: David Smail 
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Cc: 'Rob Gillard' 
 Sent: Monday, 8 January 2018, 2:48
 Subject: [LU] LU Newport
   
I am ashamed of Leeds United today - and that's strong words. Is that TC's
undiplomatic way of saying were not interested in the FA Cup? Perhaps he was
pleased in some demented way with how it all panned out and today's result
is a secret success in his book although he'd never admit it.  Our passing
was awful and embarrassing and we couldn't contain Newport. I saw this
result coming a mile away but not the way it happened.  All our supporters
making the trip and paying their money - what an insult to them, our club
and the competition itself. I'm waiting for an apology TC - why have you
kept so quiet after the game? Have you no thoughts, opinions  or comments?
At least the likes of Villa went out to lower league competition with some
style and grace and looked like they were bothered. 

 

As already mentioned, if we scrape the play offs all this will be forgotten
and forgivenonly  to a point, but as also mentioned, defeats like this
can have a dramatic effect on form and confidence. 

 

Grot and Lasogga truly awful - who brought them in? Ahem! Fine move bringing
on Saiz TC whose only contribution was to get sent off for spitting ( I
read) Did he touch the ball? Now a 3 match ban for a proven game changer. 

 

Dave

 

 

 

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