Re: [LU] Championship

[Paul Cundell]

"None of that team is good enough for the PL currently, not one of them."
I thought that after we lost to QPR tbh, if a team chasing automatic
promotion can get hammered by a team struggling to stay up then I'd hate to
see that team face Citeh, Arse or even Scum.

On Mon, 27 May 2024, 09:47 Richard Walker via Leedslist, <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Team didn’t turn up unlike us lot who did at great expense. It was
> Doncaster revisited and I hate Wembley and hope I never return.
> I’ve got nothing to say about the match other than Summerville played in
> gloves, the match passed Piroe by and Rutter showed us that he hasn’t been
> the same player since his op.
> None of that team is good enough for the PL currently, not one of them. We
> got excited by the Norwich game but let’s face facts, they were rubbish.
> On the last train out of Kings X there were a lot of very fed up fans but
> all agreed that this team is a 100% championship team with a manager who is
> a 100% championship manager.
> Be interested to see who jumps ship and actually who wants to buy them ?
>
>
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Re: [LU] Championship

[Paul Cundell]

Tbf, I'm not sure the shooting could be called pathetic, more non-existent.
Dan James must have had more shots on goal ( counting the cross bar one)
than the rest of the side put together and he was only on half an hour.


On Sun, 26 May 2024, 17:21 Kevin Lewis via Leedslist, 
wrote:

> There we are. Encapsulates the season. Loads of possession. Shit set
> pieces. Pathetic shooting.
>
> I think the management are happier in the championship, where they can win
> more than they lose, without having to take any risks.
>
>
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Re: [LU] Sunderland

[Paul Cundell]

Not a list war, just a difference of opinion. I'm happy we've won 26 games
so far this season, some think we should have won 42. It reminds me of when
we got relegated in 2004 and people said that all they wanted was players
that gave 100%. When we got players who gave 100% they then wanted them to
be good, too. When we got players that gave 100% and were made to look
good, they wanted to change manager because the one that made the shit
players look good wasn't making them look good enough. Now, after giving
all the teams in our league a head start, we have a decent manager,  some
decent players who give 100%, we're 1 point off automatic promotion and
they still want more.
Fortunately,  Leicester & Ipswich have shit managers, too ;)

On Wed, 10 Apr 2024, 19:14 ,  wrote:

> Well given what’s going on now in the Middle East, thank god someone left
> the list :-)
>
> I’m pretty much on Paul’s wavelength, but I would like to have a beer with
> Farke one night so he can explain the thinking in spending most of a half
> with the ball going between Meslier/Rodon/Ampadu? By all means try and drag
> a defensive team out, spread the game etc, but it is, at times, overly
> cautious imho? I think we have the offensive capabilities to beat anyone in
> this league - if we don’t see it through and go up, I think it’s fair
> enough to wonder ‘what if’?
>
> But, we are 2nd in the league, have been on a brilliant run, and Farke has
> worked wonders in a club synonymous with chaos, and 50,000 managers!
>
> Here’s hoping Watford play as well against Ipswich as they did against us!
>
> I hope someone at the season’s end can turn around and say ‘what were you
> bloody worried about? :-)
>
>
>
> > On 10 Apr 2024, at 18:27, Robert Heath  wrote:
> >
> > Ooooh! A list war!
> >
> > We haven't had one of them since I don't know how long!
> >
>
>
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Re: [LU] Sunderland

[Paul Cundell]

What an utter rewriting of history!
We wouldn't be bloody third if it wasn't for Farke. IF this was under
Marsch bleat bleat bleat we'd have lost 3-0. If not we would ALL to a man
have been singing his praises if he'd been unbeaten at home after 21 games.
You moan about us not going down the wings and then dare to mention Jesse
"Down the middle Raphina!" Marsch ffs!
You can't decide if he's good or lucky? Bloody good job you don't have to
then.
Farke's decisions and tactics have got us where we are, you talk as if we
have a God given right to be in the top two. Newsflash, we don't! Being
third best in the league is a lot bloody better than being third worst, in
case you can't remember.
We can’t stop Leicester and Ipswich having a rip roaring season but what we
can do is acknowledge that we're having one too, you miserable sod.
Cheer up and enjoy the ride.
Paul

On Wed, 10 Apr 2024, 15:45 seanscr...@aol.com,  wrote:

> Paul,
>
> None of that matters if we don't get promoted. Next season we'll have a
> weaker squad (we're constantly being told that we're going to have to sell
> if we don't go up), a smaller budget (smaller parachute payment in the
> second season down) and have to compete with three clubs coming down who
> have larger parachute payments. Farke has managed a lot of stuff well, but
> being third best in the league counts for nothing. (If Ampadu writes an
> autobiography, he might title it "You Get Nowt for Coming Third.")
>
> Maybe my definition of "car crash" in this context is different from some
> other people's. To me "close but no cigar" in the Championship for Leeds
> United is a car crash. Same with the 2000-2001 season in the Premier League
> - a lot of good football, but ultimately failed to win anything or finish
> in the Champions League places, which triggered a near-fatal decline. I
> remember walking out of the pub (in the British Embassy, no less) after
> watching the home draw with ManU with a sick feeling in my stomach about
> how the two dropped points - thanks to the ref - might cos us. (Little did
> I know how much!) In other words, I hate almost winning. It's victory or
> nothing.
>
> Again, I cannot decide whether Farke is a good manager, or just blessed
> with a terrific squad.
>
> To the folks who replied to my email:
>
> - Did you agree with Farke's team selection?
> - Did you seriously think Farke got the timing of the subs right yesterday?
> - Were you happy with the way we allowed Sunderland to get set every time
> before we attacked them?
> - Did you enjoy watching players turn and pass back to Ampadu and Rodon,
> and then watch them pass between themselves?
> - Did you agree with the favoring of playing down the left rather than the
> right for the vast majority of attempted attacks?
>
> If Jesse Marsch had been stood in the dugout instead of Farke, I can only
> imagine the howls of indignation that performance would have provoked.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Sean
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 08:49:39 AM EDT, Paul Cundell <
> p...@cundell.com> wrote:
>
>
> Have you been watching the same season as me?
> "One long slow motion car crash"?
> We're UNBEATEN at home and we've lost ONCE this year.
> We've got 87 points and the manager you're so angry at masterminded that.
> A car crash was Jesse Marsch.
> A car crash was all Orta's release clauses being triggered in August.
> This is quite possibly the rarest of seasons where the third place team
> could end up on over 100 points.
> SMFH.
> Marching On TOGETHER!
> Paul
>
>
> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 at 12:25, seanscribe--- via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
> >  You're absolutely right. I haven't been this angry at a Leeds manager in
> > some time. What the hell is he telling the players? We have two of the
> most
> > devastating wingers in the league, including (possibly) the fastest
> winger
> > (fastest player?) in the division in Dan James. At no point during
> > yesterday's game did the team move the ball to those players EARLY, to
> > allow them to exploit the space in front of them. Again and again and
> again
> > - so often that it MUST be based on orders from Farke, when the
> opportunity
> > for a fast break beckoned, the ball was passed sideways back and forth
> > between the centre-halves so that the opposition could get themselves set
> > before we tried to move down the field. It was absolutely maddening.
> > It wasn't just Archie, Dan James was asking for the ball in space and
> > never getting it until he had two defenders on him. The whole tactical
> > approach seemed designed to negate our own strengths (think of all the
> > terrific goals we scored ear

Re: [LU] Sunderland

[Paul Cundell]

Have you been watching the same season as me?
"One long slow motion car crash"?
We're UNBEATEN at home and we've lost ONCE this year.
We've got 87 points and the manager you're so angry at masterminded that.
A car crash was Jesse Marsch.
A car crash was all Orta's release clauses being triggered in August.
This is quite possibly the rarest of seasons where the third place team
could end up on over 100 points.
SMFH.
Marching On TOGETHER!
Paul


On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 at 12:25, seanscribe--- via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

>  You're absolutely right. I haven't been this angry at a Leeds manager in
> some time. What the hell is he telling the players? We have two of the most
> devastating wingers in the league, including (possibly) the fastest winger
> (fastest player?) in the division in Dan James. At no point during
> yesterday's game did the team move the ball to those players EARLY, to
> allow them to exploit the space in front of them. Again and again and again
> - so often that it MUST be based on orders from Farke, when the opportunity
> for a fast break beckoned, the ball was passed sideways back and forth
> between the centre-halves so that the opposition could get themselves set
> before we tried to move down the field. It was absolutely maddening.
> It wasn't just Archie, Dan James was asking for the ball in space and
> never getting it until he had two defenders on him. The whole tactical
> approach seemed designed to negate our own strengths (think of all the
> terrific goals we scored earlier in the season from fast breaks out of
> defence). Even as the clock ticked down, our fullbacks and midfielders were
> still turning on their heels and passing it back to Rodon and Ampadu, who
> would then pass it sideways, as if we were protecting a lead rather than
> trying to score. There was a complete lack of hunger and desire evident.
> And then there's Farke's inexplicable (and inexcusable) decision to delay
> bringing on most of the subs until the 82nd minute. What on earth was he
> thinking? We had no spark on the field, looked tired and uninterested, and
> we had Gnonto, Joseph and Anthony stewing on the bench. If ever a
> collective performance was calling for wholesale changes at halftime or
> shortly thereafter, it was yesterday's. I shudder to think of Farke going
> up against some of the managers in the Premier League. Like a lot of
> managers, he comes across well in press conferences, and I acknowledge that
> the EFL (deliberately, in my opinion) made his job harder at the start of
> the season by taking much longer than normal to approve the takeover. And
> of course we have had some terrible refereeing decisions - yesterday being
> exhibit A in this regard. But Farke has an extraordinary squad at this
> level, packed with current internationals and young talent being scouted by
> the world's richest clubs, and he's coming up third best in England's
> second tier. Last night was an absolute indictment.
> This season has been one long slow-motion car crash. I told my friends and
> family before the season that my prediction was we would go out in the
> playoffs. Every game seems to be moving us closer to that inevitable
> outcome, and that's not good enough for Leeds United.
> Cheers!
> Sean
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 05:43:51 AM EDT, Damian WALSH <
> damian.wa...@euromaster.com> wrote:
>
>  Don't get frustrated with Cree & (especially) Georgino losing the ball. A
> mild grinding of teeth will have to do :)
>
> If they're losing the ball then they're doing their job trying to provoke
> something and we've got to accept that it doesn't come off every time.
>
> However the number of times they lost the ball because they ran into each
> other or another Leeds player (Firpo featured several times here) was
> indeed annoying.
>
> As for Gray - why wouldn't Rodon pass to him? Was it "instructions"?
> Whatever, by half way through the 2nd half Sunderland were completely
> ignoring him because they knew he wouldn't get the pass - it gave them an
> extra man to crowd out the centre. Poor Gray spent most of the 2nd half
> stood on his own, arms outstretched waiting for the ball that never came.
> It's almost like Farke says "give it to Cree or Rutter lads and watch them
> do something"...
>
> Damian
>
> Le mer. 10 avr. 2024 à 09:43, John Lee via Leedslist  >
> a écrit :
>
> > I decided against commenting immediately Nick, because it was a pretty
> > under-whelming display. Like you, I think the players look knackered, and
> > have just lost their mojo. Summerville & Rutter have had some really
> > ineffective moments, and I can’t deny how frustrating their constant
> losing
> > the ball gets? I thought Ampadu and Rodon looked jiggered too last
> night. I
> > actually thought Bamford looked pretty sprightly last night, despite that
> > Pike-lookalikey clattering him repeatedly. Of course he never really
> looked
> > like scoring though - I was willing him to get a 

Re: [LU] Coventry

[Paul Cundell]

Let's not blame the goalkeeper because Rutter and Cree missed more chances
in one half than Bamford has missed all season and conveniently forget
Mesliers first half save that in the end preserved our unbeaten home
record.
There's two defenders on the attacker but the keeper should've come for it?
Why? So you could have blamed him for not leaving it to the defenders?
Let's not look for scapegoats when the fault clearly lies with us failing
to convert our chances.


On Sun, 17 Dec 2023, 17:38 Scott1cairns1,  wrote:

>  It’s a vote of no confidence in meslier for me.
> Best regards,Scott.
>
> > On 17 Dec 2023, at 12:59, Robert Heath  wrote:
> >
> > Dead right about the ref. I noticed when the res were doing their
> pathetic
> > "warmup" that he was out of breath and struggling to keep up with his
> > linesmen after simply jogging a lap of half the pitch!
> >
> >> On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 11:23 AM Simon McNally via Leedslist <
> >> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Mostly agree, especially that song.
> >>
> >> I think it was Struijk that loses the header for the goal.
> >> Having watched it back, I’m not convinced by Meslier on the goal either.
> >> It’s a high, looping cross that is headed in from within the six yard
> box.
> >> I’d think the keeper should be claiming that.
> >> I thought he could’ve done better with the Sunderland goal too.
> >> Shopping list for January for me would be : 1) left back and 2)
> goalkeeper
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from Outlook for iOS
> >> 
> >> From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard
> >> Walker via Leedslist 
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2023 10:28:25 AM
> >> To: leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org) 
> >> Subject: [LU] Coventry
> >>
> >> I'd forgotten that God awful song that they sing  'We all sing
> >> together  la la la' - took me right back to the Hillsborough
> >> semi-final. Rubbish song, rubbish city, rubbish fans and they had the
> cheek
> >> to sing "Leeds is a shithole I want to go home". Made me laugh and
> think of
> >> Ghost Town.
> >> To be fair to their team I thought they were ok. A bit like Sunderland,
> >> they came with damage limitation in mind and to kick everything that
> moved
> >> which they got away with due to a really, really poor ref. He didn't
> look
> >> in shape and his brain was obviously running slow because time and time
> >> again they hacked at our players and he didn't take any action. I think
> >> this is the way to play us, be solid, get everyone behind the ball and
> then
> >> get us on the counter, which is what happened.
> >> First half I thought we huffed and puffed and got into some good
> positions
> >> but poor finishing cost us. Rutter spent most of the half on his arse as
> >> usual and when he did get a chance he fluffed it. My mate said he's
> either
> >> world class or a spastic. He was a spastic in that first half. Very
> >> frustrating. Most of our best work was down the left with Spence and
> >> Summerville but  when we did manage to work our way  into the box the
> last
> >> pass or cross was lacking. At the other end Coventry did have numerous
> >> counters and their tricky right winger skinned Spence to create a good
> >> chance. Meslier also made a decent save from a shot outside the box.
> They
> >> were dangerous on the counter and I think as a team it's far too to pass
> >> and progress through our midfield. This is obviously the downside to
> >> playing 4 attackers with one of them (Piroe) in midfield. Piroe is
> never a
> >> midfielder, not even close. Yes he's tidy on the ball at times but most
> of
> >> the time without the ball he's a passenger.
> >> I think we need to look at playing with 3 midfielder (proper
> midfielders)
> >> in some games especially away from home. New left back in Jan, spence to
> >> right back , Archie into midfield. Bidwell for them must be 30+ but he's
> >> solid , can defend and get forward. That's all we need from a left back
> in
> >> this league.
> >> Then there's the argument about who to play up front ? For me, Rutter is
> >> great to watch (the world class version not the spastic) but there's no
> way
> >> he's a number 9. He misses chance after chance after brilliantly setting
> >> them up. He's a great passer of the ball and for someone who at times
> looks
> >> like he's on cloud 9 (he doesn't watch the offside line for instance) he
> >> does have great awareness. If he's gonna play I think he is the one to
> play
> >> as a 10 or a winger but NOT as a no 9. Rutter's assist for Summerville's
> >> 2nd half goal was fantastic.Maybe an unopular view, but I would play
> >> Bamford at no 9. Ok, he's coming on and looking like he's never played
> as
> >> he loses possession and the ball bobbles of his shin. He's trying too
> hard
> >> but watch the runs he makes. He's totally not tuned into his team mates
> >> though so he looks a bit stupid but given a run I have no doubt he will
> >> score in most matches. He might 

Re: [LU] Rotherham Game

[Paul Cundell]

Tbf, again, they are mostly the same players - hence, I assume, Farke's
safety first approach, but what do I know.
Personally, I blame Sky comms for telling us that we'd always won when
scoring first.


On Sat, 25 Nov 2023, 22:43 ,  wrote:

> I think that’s a fair point Paul, although there was plenty of evidence to
> suggest the tide might turn yesterday? I don’t think I was alone in not
> being exactly gushing about some of our defender’s ‘abilities’ - all the
> old doubts came back to worry me :-(
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 25 Nov 2023, at 22:06, Paul Cundell  wrote:
>
> 
> I think we're in danger of very quickly forgetting how badly we were
> shipping goals pre-Farke.
>
> On Sat, 25 Nov 2023, 21:46 Nicholas Armit via Leedslist, <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
>>  Totally agree! It is very frustrating.
>> Nick
>> On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 10:55:15 AM EST, John Lee via
>> Leedslist  wrote:
>>
>>  I think this insistence on re-setting the entire team every time we get
>> possession, by playing it back to Cooper/Rodon/Meslier cripples one of our
>> key strengths - our attacking speed. I would definitely have Gray in the
>> middle, and I hope Farke is beginning to see that this ultra- cautious
>> defensive set up is costing us points? There’s zero point in having 80%
>> possession if 90% of that is within 30 yards of our goal!
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> > On 25 Nov 2023, at 13:09, Kevin Lewis via Leedslist <
>> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Last night showed to me how much we need the creative midfield player
>> to
>> > turn promising positions into the type of chances that even our strikers
>> > can’t miss.  Then pick whichever of Rutter, Piroe and Bamford looks like
>> > they may eventually score a goal. None of them does at the moment.
>> Bamford
>> > in particular has missed the ball, missed a penalty and wandered
>> offside in
>> > his last 3 significant contributions.
>> >
>> > I was looking forward to seeing Firpo last night to give the team an
>> > overlapping option down the left. Sadly it looks like his attacking,
>> > defending, desire and reliability to keep possession are lacking even at
>> > this level.
>> >
>> > Despite that Leeds are still probably 5 points ahead of where I expected
>> > them
>> > to be, considering the state of the squad when Farke came in, and at the
>> > end of the transfer window.
>> >
>> > KOT
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Re: [LU] Rotherham Game

[Paul Cundell]

I think we're in danger of very quickly forgetting how badly we were
shipping goals pre-Farke.

On Sat, 25 Nov 2023, 21:46 Nicholas Armit via Leedslist, <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

>  Totally agree! It is very frustrating.
> Nick
> On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 10:55:15 AM EST, John Lee via
> Leedslist  wrote:
>
>  I think this insistence on re-setting the entire team every time we get
> possession, by playing it back to Cooper/Rodon/Meslier cripples one of our
> key strengths - our attacking speed. I would definitely have Gray in the
> middle, and I hope Farke is beginning to see that this ultra- cautious
> defensive set up is costing us points? There’s zero point in having 80%
> possession if 90% of that is within 30 yards of our goal!
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 25 Nov 2023, at 13:09, Kevin Lewis via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> > Last night showed to me how much we need the creative midfield player to
> > turn promising positions into the type of chances that even our strikers
> > can’t miss.  Then pick whichever of Rutter, Piroe and Bamford looks like
> > they may eventually score a goal. None of them does at the moment.
> Bamford
> > in particular has missed the ball, missed a penalty and wandered offside
> in
> > his last 3 significant contributions.
> >
> > I was looking forward to seeing Firpo last night to give the team an
> > overlapping option down the left. Sadly it looks like his attacking,
> > defending, desire and reliability to keep possession are lacking even at
> > this level.
> >
> > Despite that Leeds are still probably 5 points ahead of where I expected
> > them
> > to be, considering the state of the squad when Farke came in, and at the
> > end of the transfer window.
> >
> > KOT
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Re: [LU] And that is why

[Paul Cundell]

TBF Ipswich, also drew with Rotherham so are they in no shape to be going
up automatically either?

On Sat, 25 Nov 2023, 00:55 Alec McQueen,  wrote:

> We are in no shape to be going up automatically. Best to hope for is a
> playoff place, and some luck in the playoffs…
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 25 Nov 2023, at 09:38, John Boocock  wrote:
> >
> > If you want to be upset find details about tonight's match.
> Otherwise.
> >
> > Betty
> >
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Re: [LU] Hier Soir

[Paul Cundell]

YAY! Up there with your best, well I nearly spilt my coffee anyway:

Marsh's best
mates from a world where football is clearly a figment of someone's
imagination.
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Re: [LU] Well

[Paul Cundell]

It's ok Rich, Monday isn't really midweek

On Tue, 18 Apr 2023, 08:39 Richard Walker via Leedslist, <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

>  Yes, the cutting out mid-week drinking plan for me went astray last
> night. I just feel totally empty after that performance which was one of
> the worst.
>
>
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Re: [LU] Carlos!

[Paul Cundell]

Done deal! My mates aunties brother in laws best man saw him coming out of
Dacre Son & Hartley in Wetherby market place this morning.

On Tue, 6 Dec 2022, 12:06 James A. Lundon @ Yahoo! via Leedslist, <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

>  RE: Totally disagree. He could just go out and get Roberto Carlos, I know
> for a fact he is available.
>
> And wants to come to Leeds too, I am hearing ;-)?
> James.
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Re: [LU] Any reports?

[Paul Cundell]

I agree with Rob's analysis of Rodrigo but I'm surprised to see that the
stats don't back our impressions up.
Against Wolves, he had 3 shots and 1 goal but in the following three games
he has had 5 shots per game and scored 3 goals in total. So he's actually
pretty consistent on shots and goals. An average of 4.5 shots and 1 goal
per game is pretty good, we'll see if this continues over a better sample
size but if that's what JM sees perhaps that's why he persists with him.

On Mon, 29 Aug 2022, 14:44 Robert Heath,  wrote:

> Rodrigo is the most frustrating player I've seen in a Leeds shirt for
> years. Maddeningly inconsistent. I think Marsch needs to be able to
> recognise when he's having one of his (way too frequent) off days and drag
> him off asap, but that also aint gonna happen.
>
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[LU] Trevor Cherry RIP

[Paul Cundell]

https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11715/11980788/trevor-cherry-former-leeds-and-england-defender-dies-aged-72
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Re: [LU] : Kiko's ban

[Paul Cundell]

The crux of the assumption of guilt appears to be that Casillas claimed
he'd never heard of the N word before his hearing yet the Match Referee
reckoned he told him that he was supposed to have "you f'ing n**ger" and he
said "no i said 'you f'ing sh*t'" on the day of the offence. So proof that
a Spanish football would know and use "you f'ing n**ger" is based on him
not saying he'd never heard the word before the match referee said it.
Kangaroo court springs to mind..

On Tue, 3 Mar 2020, 18:15 Ed Morrish,  wrote:

> The relevant paragraph, is maybe...
>
> *The Corner was then taken in the 72nd minute of the match, and KC punched
> the ball clear. It is alleged by the FA that immediately thereafter KC
> audibly directed at JL the words ‘you fucking nigger’. In these Written
> Reasons we refer to that alleged use of those words as ‘the Incident’.*
>
> Ed.
>
> On Tue, 3 Mar 2020 at 18:11,  wrote:
>
> > I've tried downloading the FA's pdf 20 times, and each time I get a
> > "network error" message. I don't usually have that problem with pdfs (I
> > have a Macbook Air laptop).  Has anyone on the List successfully accessed
> > that pdf? The only article so far I've seen is by Graham Smyth on the YEP
> > website, and it just focuses on the FA's defense of its use of "balance
> of
> > probability," not on the details of the events in question. I have yet to
> > actually read anywhere in the past five months a detailed account that
> > answers the following questions:
> >
> > What is Casilla is alleged to have said? In what language?
> > At what point in the game is he alleged to have said it?
> > What did Casilla say he said?
> > The game was televised [I watched it], so does video exist of this moment
> > in the game?
> > Who was reasonably within earshot of Casilla at that moment? (including
> > players, match officials, photographers and cameramen, stewards, etc)?
> > Of those people, how many were interviewed?
> > What did those people say?
> > Etc. Etc. Etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ed Morrish 
> > To: list leedslist 
> > Sent: Tue, Mar 3, 2020 12:37 pm
> > Subject: [LU] : Kiko's ban
> >
> > Full written reasoning here:
> >
> >
> http://www.thefa.com/news/2020/mar/03/kiko-casilla-written-reasons-030320
> >
> > Ed.
> >
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Re: [LU] Beradi

[Paul Cundell]

Agreed Naefy, you're supporting the wrong team if all you're interested in
is success!


On Thu, 10 Oct 2019, 11:44 Richard Naef, 
wrote:

> I prefer the enjoyment of the game
> 
> From: Scott1cairns1 
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 9:57:50 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Beradi
>
> I’m Interested In The business of success my friend.
> Best regards,Scott.
>
>
>
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Re: [LU] LU leeds Derby

[Paul Cundell]

All strikers miss chances that you would hope they would be scoring, to
pretend otherwise is disingenuous.
The top scorers in the Championship have scored 5, Bamford has scored 4 -
and was the width of the woodwork away from 5.
So I think you're expecting too much, even Harry Kane has only scored 3
goals (and 1 pen) from 6 league games.
He's putting his chances away at a reasonable rate - he's not as prolific
as a Sterling or an Aguero but he's on a par with Grabban and Phillips and
that's about all we can expect.
We didn't win yesterday because Klich missed the penalty that Bamford won,
simple as imho.

On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 at 15:25, Nicholas Armit  wrote:
>
> I do think this is being disingenuous. Surely it is clear there are
chances he is missing he should be scoring. Even if he got 50% of those
additional chances that would help.
>
> Nick
>
> On Monday, September 23, 2019, 05:58:19 AM EDT, Paul Cundell <
p...@cundell.com> wrote:
>
>
> We've played 8 games and he's scored 4 goals. When oh when will he start
putting some of these chances away!!
> If he was our main penalty taker, as many number 9's usually are, he'd
probably have 6 goals.
> It would be fairer to argue that Klich needs to be more consistent
scoring penalties as we need those goals (as yesterday made absolutely
clear) and he was nominated to do that. ;)
>
>
> On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 at 00:18, Nicholas Armit  wrote:
> >
> > While this is true it is a fact that he is our main striker. He needs
to start putting some of these chances away. This isn't anti-Bamford or
denigrating what he does but that is his role. We need those goals (as
yesterday made absolutely clear) and he was brought in to do that.
> >
> > Nick
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Re: [LU] LU leeds Derby

[Paul Cundell]

We've played 8 games and he's scored 4 goals. When oh when will he start
putting some of these chances away!!
If he was our main penalty taker, as many number 9's usually are, he'd
probably have 6 goals.
It would be fairer to argue that Klich needs to be more consistent scoring
penalties as we need those goals (as yesterday made absolutely clear) and
he was nominated to do that. ;)


On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 at 00:18, Nicholas Armit  wrote:
>
> While this is true it is a fact that he is our main striker. He needs to
start putting some of these chances away. This isn't anti-Bamford or
denigrating what he does but that is his role. We need those goals (as
yesterday made absolutely clear) and he was brought in to do that.
>
> Nick
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Re: [LU] LU leeds Derby

[Paul Cundell]

I've never left Yorkshire, Naefy, but you're right and I shouldn't let it
get to me anymore.
I hear the same people moan about Bamford that moaned about Viduka and they
were probably the same people that called Sniffer lazy when I was a kid.
People who "watch football" but don't see the shift Bamford puts in aren't
really watching at all, but I'll lay you 100 to 1 that Bielsa sees it.

MOT


On Sun, 22 Sep 2019 at 20:55, Richard Naef 
wrote:

> LOL, Paul you’ve ben away from Yorkshire too long!  I’ve been reading the
> Leeds United 100 Years book (very good) and it really seems that its
> something that’s been the case with Leeds fans since our City days.   The
> year so far and however many months we have left before it all goes
> pearshaped.  Haven’t we learned that these periods of success should be
> appreciated as they don’t last.  But being negative pays dividends cos
> you’re normally proved right eventually.  Revie took time to build his team
> MB achieved more change in a shorter timescale, but it’ll never be enough
>
>
>
> MB is affecting the League.  Watch the EFL highlights on the TV and
> watching other teams trying (and failing) to play out from the back and
> press high.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LU] LU leeds Derby

[Paul Cundell]

Love this list me: Bamford is sh*t and Bielsa doesn't know what he's doing!

Seriously? We could have been 3 up by 75 minutes and should have been 2 up
but for Klich trying to be a clever fcuk with the penalty. That he tried to
pass it in to the net again is obviously Bamfords fault though.

75 minutes is significant because that's when Bielsa was forced to bring
Pablo off due to Holmes doing a number on him. Obviously, Bielsa got it
wrong again because he should have replaced Pablo with Pablo and must share
some of the blame with Bamford for Klich's sh*te penalty.

MOT

Paul


On Sat, 21 Sep 2019, 21:28 Jim Moran,  wrote:

> Missed the game as I was working at the Yorkshire 2019 cycling champs, a
> much better day out in the sun it appears.
>
> We’re top. We battered them. Eventually we will turn these performances
> into 5-0.
>
> I’d like to see Bamford and Nketiah for the last 20.
>
> On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 at 20:28, Richard Naef <
> rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > >Bielsa got this wrong. No ifs, no buts!
> >
> > Channelling Boris there are we John? 
> >
> > I think the blame lies with the players not MB, he's said he's been
> trying
> > to think how to play 2 strikers, probably at the expense of Klitch, but
> > that would mean we'd create less chances in his opinion.  He sees the
> > players very working day. I trust this thought processes, plus we are
> still
> > top and this seasons Championship looks very average.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On 21 Sep 2019, at 14:47,  <
> ni...@sykesonline.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm generally a Bamford fan, but it's starting to get difficult to
> > justify it.  He plays very well everywhere except where it matters most.
> > But still, for me the real problem is creating chances.  We have very
> > little idea of how to break down the packed defences we see every week,
> and
> > one thing that really lets us down there is the quality of the crossing.
> > They're all poor, but Harrison in particular is dogshit when it comes to
> > the final ball, and yet they mostly fall to him to make.
> > >
> > > And sadly, we've seen this happen so often now that I suspect that many
> > of us DID see this coming at half time!  Certainly, as soon as Klich
> > cockily missed that penalty.
> > >
> > > Nigel
> > > (the Dublin one)
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of David
> Smail
> > > Sent: 21 September 2019 14:41
> > > To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> > > Subject: [LU] LU leeds Derby
> > >
> > > Anyone not see this coming at half time? For all our 80% possession and
> > 5 star first (machine) half performance - it's not good enough and we
> have
> > a BIG problem scoring and this may very well find us out. The problem
> > continues.
> > >
> > > I thought just before Derby scored that I have never felt more deflated
> > about a victory, or even draw in the end. I have to say it - again -
> > Bamford gets on the end of things and won us a pen,  but his conversion
> > rate is not there for a centre forward. 1-0 lead is never enough and we
> > paid heavily today for that. We need somebody that can turn good chances
> > into goals.
> > > C'mon MB, change it around - possession and chances is NOT enough!
> Don't
> > base an entire performance on how the" machine" is working, slip in a
> > proven goal scorer. QED!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [LU] On the other hand.

[Paul Cundell]

Reality Check:
On the February 18th 1974 we lost 1-0 at home to Bristol City in the FA Cup
replay.
This began a run of 11 games where we only won twice.
Obviously that manager and that team weren't the finished article either -
good job that manager left that summer eh?
 ;-)
Cheers
Paul

On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 10:43, Richard Naef 
wrote:

> Quite a long list, but that was only part of your homework, list other
> managers who have done more.  To help u I'll let u include those who've won
> in Scotland, which obvs shouldn't really count.
>
> Sent from my mobile
>
> 
> From: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 10:33:52 AM
> To: Richard Naef
> Cc: Paul Reeve; Leeds List
> Subject: Re: [LU] On the other hand.
>
> It kind of depresses me when reality is ignored
>
>
> Argentina
>
>   *   Summer Olympics Tournament<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_at_the_Summer_Olympics> Gold
> Medal: 2004<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_at_the_2004_Summer_Olympics_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_tournament
> >[11]
>   *   Copa América
> Runner-up: 2004 >[9]
>
> Newell's Old Boys
>
>   *   Primera División Argentina<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primera_Divisi%C3%B3n_Argentina>: 1991
> Apertura<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990%E2%80%9391_Argentine_Primera_Divisi%C3%B3n#Torneo_Apertura>,
> 1992 Clausura<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991%E2%80%9392_Argentine_Primera_Divisi%C3%B3n#Torneo_Apertura
> >[4]
>   *   Copa Libertadores:
> Runner-up 1992[4]<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa#cite_note-nobfifa-5>
>
> Vélez Sarsfield
>
>   *   Primera División Argentina<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primera_Divisi%C3%B3n_Argentina>: 1998
> Clausura<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997%E2%80%9398_Argentine_Primera_Divisi%C3%B3n#Torneo_Clausura
> >[6]
>
> Athletic Bilbao
>
>   *   UEFA Europa League<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Europa_League>: Runner-up 2011–12<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2%80%9312_UEFA_Europa_League>[28]<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa#cite_note-uel12-29>
>   *   Copa del Rey:
> Runner-up 2011–12<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2%80%9312_Copa_del_Rey>[30]<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa#cite_note-cdr12-31>
>
> Individual
>
>   *   IFFHS World's Best National Coach<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IFFHS_World%27s_Best_National_Coach>:
> 2001[92]<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa#cite_note-Former_Results-93
> >
>   *   EFL Championship Manager of the Month<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFL_Championship_Manager_of_the_Month>:
> August 2018[51]<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa#cite_note-yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk-52
> >
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 28 Feb 2019, at 10:03, Richard Naef  > wrote:
>
> It kind of depresses me Leeds fans jumping in the press' lack of success
> trope.  He's won things, taken teams to the top and managed international
> sides.
>
> Just think who managing in England has done more? Write a list, it's very
> short.
>
> Sent from my mobile
>
> 
> From: Leedslist  leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org>> on behalf of John Lee via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:27:21 AM
> To: Paul Reeve
> Cc: Leeds List
> Subject: Re: [LU] On the other hand.
>
> Ok, start point - Love Leeds, Want promotion, peace and love etc, but a
> few thoughts.
>
> MB clearly isn’t the finished article as a manager, otherwise he would
> have a string of titles, cups etc in his cv. He is a master tactician,
> leaves no stone unturned etc, and has utterly transformed a set of in the
> main average players into a cohesive force. In itself that is astonishing,
> and what he has created at Leeds is equally amazing. But the fact remains
> that his record on delivering success isn’t that hot. That is why all us
> armchair managers, as well as tv pundits/experts etc, highlight the need
> for better quality and more players. I got sick to death of pundits saying
> we couldn’t last the season playing this style of footie, but am worried
> they may be right. Nothing I say will change anything, but I hope MB will
> stay another year, whether we’re in the Prem/Championship, and from
> somewhere comes an investor who has enough money to do the job properly.
>
> I thought the QPR game was a 

Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

[Paul Cundell]

Congratulations Ian

On Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 08:05 Roy Blackwell,  wrote:

> Congratulations
>
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 06:45 Ian Murray,  wrote:
>
> > Where are the highlights?
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> >
> >
> >  Original message 
> > From: Nicholas Armit 
> > Date: 22/08/2018 08:00 (GMT+08:00)
> > To: Errand Fivefold , Leeds List <
> > leedslist@gn.apc.org>, Ian Murray 
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan
> >
> > different subject...watched the highlights back and the effort from
> > Phillips and Saiz for their first goal is disgraceful. No hi intensity
> > effort there and total ball watching. Really poor.
> >
> > On Tuesday, August 21, 2018, 7:42:06 PM EDT, Ian Murray <
> > ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks mate :)
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> >
> >
> >  Original message 
> > From: Errand Fivefold  > errand.fivef...@talk21.com>>
> > Date: 22/08/2018 01:28 (GMT+08:00)
> > To: Ian Murray  > ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com>>, Leeds List  > leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan
> >
> > WOW!
> > Hello Finn!!
> >
> > Congratulations to you all.
> >
> > Great news!
> >
> > :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: Ian Murray  > ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com>>
> > To: Leeds List mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2018, 14:02
> > Subject: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan
> >
> > Hey all
> >
> > Very pleased to announce the fact that on Thursday my wife Nicky gave
> > birth to our first son and Leeds fan, Finlay (Finn) James Murray.
> >
> > Finn and I watched the Rotherham game in hospital together and he was
> very
> > pleased with our performance.
> >
> > I am sure that he will think that us winning the league is just one of
> > those things that happens routinely - which is how I felt in 1992.  I am
> so
> > re-invigorated with Bielsa that I have bought an android box so that I
> dont
> > have to miss any games this season from Perth - if they are not on that
> > then they can be streamed on the leeds website.  I have also spent an
> > unreasonable amount of cash on LUFC baby tat to dress the lad in.
> >
> > Anyway, I am just telling everyone I know because I can't smile wide
> > enough right now.
> >
> > MOT
> >
> > Ian
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Re: [LU] Kids

[Paul Cundell]

Well, Thomas is 25 this year. You may recall he met Reidy and got a nice
email from the Prof.
He had a season ticket last season but moved to Germany in the spring. He's
lead Android coder for a start-up Football Scores app in Dusseldorf.
MOT
Paul


On Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 02:19 Richard Naef, 
wrote:

> My 2 are 22 & 25, neither follow football, but always keep an eye out for
> Leeds results and been to a few games.  They know to avoid me if we loose.
>
> Their Mum and my first love, died 10 years ago, but happily met someone
> else and actually got married last week in Las Vegas, life (and football)
> can be utter shit sometimes, but good times often round the corner.
>
> Can't remember when I joined, must have been 95ish.  List has been ever
> present, first thing I check when I open up my PC.
>
> Been in the states for 5 weeks on a road trip with my girls and new wife,
> so watched all 5 games at weird times. By myself now Waiting for a flight
> to San Fran, where Im renting a bike for a few days a riding around
> california. Easy Rider? - fuck yeah! (albeit on a Triumph not a Harley, I
> want to be able to go round corners)
>
> Managed to survive 5 weeks and only got into 1 argument with  Trumpist!
> Best thing is that I can buy dope from a shop - how very grown up!  Worst
> thing? Stupid plugs :) and being told I have a great accent FFS, YOU'VE GOT
> THE ACCENT NOT ME ;)
>
>
> Sent from my mobile
>
> 
> From: Leedslist  on behalf of Paul Cadd <
> paul.c...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 1:59:51 PM
> To: John Boocock
> Cc: leedslist
> Subject: Re: [LU] Kids
>
> Jordan, my son is 29 now and was a season ticket holder home and away some
> years ...I also took Jacob now 24 and Rhiannon now 21 on occasions xx.
>
> Now I've nearly got a new wife (as of this coming Saturday), I've got her
> supporting Leeds, coming to games and checking all the Leeds news sources
> :)    ALAW 
>
> On Tue, 21 Aug 2018, 19:25 John Boocock,  wrote:
>
> > Given the great news about Fin Murray, I was wondering how many of us
> > have kids. I know in the early days it wasn't many. Aficionados of the
> > Adolphi will know that I have just the one, Lal (star of the back page
> > of the Mirror at the San Siro!)
> >
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Re: [LU] Impatient or justified ?

[Paul Cundell]

My twopenneth, if Vydra is on Bielsa's list then I doubt Bielsa is best
pleased with him that Vydra has just upped his wage demands. Can you
imagine Paddy Kenny doing that to Warnock?
Secondly, if we don't sign anyone then the world won't end and we'll have
another non-descript season just like the last 15.
Sorry but I think I've caught a heavy dose of couldntgiveafckery, will
antibiotics help?
Cheers
Paul


On Tue, 10 Jul 2018, 12:58 Richard Naef, 
wrote:

> What they seem to forget is we have no idea if hernandez or vydra are on
> el locos list, I suspect his list will mainly be players who he's worked
> with before and has confidence in, they may be contracted elsewhere and
> take time to negotiate.  Having said that, I'm getting a little nervous,
> mainly that if the aforementioned were on his list he's going to walk if we
> don't get them.
>
> Sent from my mobile
>
> 
> From: Leedslist  on behalf of nat...@sky.com
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:08:37 AM
> To: Leeds List
> Subject: [LU] Impatient or justified ?
>
> Reading waccoe and a few fans on twitter and FB, it looks as if a lot of
> fans (or at least the loudest ones) are very much losing patience with the
> lack of incoming players.I cannot make up my mind if they need to relax and
> shut up or their impatience is justified. Over the years we have been led
> to believe that some marquee signing was very close only for it to collapse
> at the last minute and us to get an unknown replacement. Hernandez and
> Vydra seem to be on the verge of falling into this category- weeks of
> 'nearly done' and now both deals have 'fallen through'
> I have questioned for years how clubs reconcile the 'pre season is the
> most important thing' with buying players after the season has started !
> This seems to apply this season more than every with Bielsa's
> triple/quadruple training sessions and his innovative tactics in games -
> how and when is he going to get players up to the required levels of
> fitness and get his views across once the season has started ?
> I also don't like loan deals for the most part and we do, especially given
> Angus Kinnears comments, seem to be wanting to go down that route
> Whatever, I have just got my tickets for the pre seaso game at ER v Las
> Palmas and am itching for the season to start.
> Dave
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Re: [LU] test

[Paul Cundell]

Test Failed : Abort

On Sat, 23 Jun 2018, 16:34 Nigel Goodman,  wrote:

>
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Re: [LU] Manager?

[Paul Cundell]

I'm with you Nigel, I was discussing it with Thomas this evening.
If he does come will he stays at Elland Road if Pochettino goes to Real?


On Sun, 3 Jun 2018, 20:00 Nigel Sykes,  wrote:

> I'm struggling to see what's in it for him.  His recent résumé  reads:
> Argentina, Chile, Athletic Bilbao, Marseille, Lazio, Lille.
>
> Can't help but think that our name is really gonna look like a shitstain on
> it, when he inevitably departs, with his tail between his legs in a few
> months' time...
>
> (I can't be anything but depressingly cynical with any Leeds news at this
> stage)
>
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Richard
> Naef
> Sent: 03 June 2018 18:04
> To: Leeds List; nat...@sky.com
> Subject: Re: [LU] Manager?
>
> Problem is we are Leeds and we love a moan.  When was the last manager who
> was given some time?  Can't see the experts keeping quiet with this guy.
> He
> delights in playing players out of position, making weird substitutions and
> generally not giving a fcuk what the fans think. He doesn't speak English,
> so how the hell is he going to put over complicated fluid tactics to the
> players? I want to win games and not be miserable on Saturdays.  If he gets
> the job he'll get my 100% support, but I wonder how long he'll get.
> 
> From: Leedslist  on behalf of nat...@sky.com
> 
> Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2018 2:54:01 PM
> To: Leeds List
> Subject: Re: [LU] Manager?
>
> Yeah - let's go for the 'nutter' and his 3 3 1 3 formation - we are Leeds
> united and we are mental (as the song used to go "we're barmy, we're
> mental,
> we're off our fu*king heads ")*Guardiola, Pocchino and now Gabriel
> Batistuta
> are all quoted as calling him the best coach in the world so he must have
> something. (plus the story of him approaching fans holding a hand grenade)
>
> We are LEEDS and want someone different not the bland, boring same-old
> same-old crap of Bruce, Allerdice and McCarthy - we are here for the ride
> so
> lets enjoy ourselves - Of course I want success and to get to the Premier
> League (even though we will not like it once we get there) but I go to
> games
> to enjoy myself and this Bielsa bloke sounds tailor made for us !
> Dave* with genuine apologies to anyone out there with real mental illnesses
> etc
>
>
>   From: Torrey Gilday 
>  To: Richard Naef 
> Cc: Leeds List 
>  Sent: Friday, 1 June 2018, 21:54
>  Subject: Re: [LU] Manager?
>
> They might be a safer bet, but Bielsa sounds like a fun bet!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 1, 2018, at 2:49 PM, Richard Naef <
> rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >
> > Ok, so ignoring whether or not they would come, surely. Allerdice,
> Pearson
> McCarthy are free, wouldn't they (in that order) be a far better bet than
> Bielsa?
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Re: [LU] Should I get divorced ?

[Paul Cundell]

Is it just me that thought the goldfish reference was the dig not that we
haven't won anything for yonks? :D

Merry Christmas Everyone!



On 22 December 2017 at 16:12, nat...@sky.com  wrote:

> My wife has made (or at least decorated) some tea mugs and sent them to my
> two closest LUFC mates , and done one for me
> They have the Leeds crest on one side and on the other it says "Leed
> United supporters mug. Instructions for use put a goldfish in it and
> pretend you have won something"
>  So is taking the mickey out of LUFC funny or a divorceable offence ?
> DavePS To be honest both my mates and myself found the mugs very funny and
> am using it now
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Re: [LU] New Manager

[Paul Cundell]

Tim Farron resigned yesterdaycoincidence?

On 15 Jun 2017 11:12, "Errand Fivefold"  wrote:

According to our Glorious Leader:-
  Andrea Radrizzani‏ @andrearadri   White smoke from ER! Big
day for @LUFC fans. Thank you for the patience and support, our Manager
will be announced very soon

Manager, not Head Coach.
Best wishes,
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Re: [LU] Fwd: None LU: Andy Murray World Number one (;-))

[Paul Cundell]

That was me Graham, and yes Thomas still has that programme.
He keeps it alongside the blue shirt he got signed by the Smiffy, Kewell,
Viduka era Leeds United and the Monkyheed autograph he got when Reidy told
him his secret plan.
Good memories
Cheers
Paul

On 5 Jun 2017 14:57, "Graham Thirkill" 
wrote:

PS….Did you visit me in Whitby at my business, about 15 years ago, with
your son If so,
I hope he still has the John Charles signed programme I have gave him….
Sorry if I’m wrong,
but it was a long time ago, but a few people used to come to see me in
Whitby…..
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Re: [LU] Leeds united could get into the Play Offs by the back door...........

[Paul Cundell]

You're forgetting how it all works Graham, Newcastle will be found guilty
and Leeds will be deducted 15 points.

On 26 Apr 2017 19:17, "Graham Thirkill" 
wrote:

Newcastle could get points deducted and Leeds will be in the play-offs (;-))
Are Leeds United one of the hundreds of clubs being investigated by the
tax people etc etc…….Mr Bates wouldn’t have done anything
underhand……..would he??
It could all be very interesting…….
Thirketrs
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Re: [LU] To join or start a discussion, send a message…..what next

[Paul Cundell]

Hello Graham
Sad news 'bout Dave
All the best
Paul

On 19 Apr 2017 15:58, "Graham Thirkill" 
wrote:

> 5.2.1 Anybody can subscribe to the list, and you must be a subscriber
> if you want to post messages to it. To join or start a discussion,
> send a message to leedslist@gn.apc.org
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Re: [LU] Take over

[Paul Cundell]

In the smelliest part of Leeds and we can nickname it Smelland Road

On 5 Jan 2017 10:16, "wayne callaghan"  wrote:

with the tallest floodlights in Europe



-Original Message-
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{broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: 05 January 2017 10:11
To: Matt Anderson 
Cc: leedslist 
Subject: Re: [LU] Take over

And let's build a new ground

Sent from my iPhone

> On 5 Jan 2017, at 10:02, Matt Anderson  wrote:
>
> Bring back Caspian!! I was looking forward to watching the leeds
> Lazers basketball team as we became the new Barcelona multi sport
> dynasty
>
> Whatever happened to ridsdales motor racing plan?
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Re: [LU] Season's Greetings

[Paul Cundell]

Has your football journey come to a holt, or hit a plateau? Do you need
some help?  Come with me and share this invigorating new journey.  My
trainer said to have inner peace we should always finish things we start
and we all could use more calm in our lives.

So I looked through my house to find things i'd started and hadn't
finished, so I finished off a bottle of Merlot, a bottle of Chardonnay, a
bodle of Baileys, a butle of wum, tha mainder of Valiumun srciptuns, an a
box a chocletz. Yu haf no idr how feckin fablus I feel rite now. Sned this
to all who need inner piss. An telum u luvum. And two al hve a Marry
Crispmouse 

On 24 Dec 2016 15:49, "{broken-address}" <
seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Merry Christmas (and Happy Hannukah) to all from the wilds of West Cork.
>
>
> As a twenty-year veteran of this list, and a Leeds supporter for more than
> twice as long, I know better than to feel optimistic, ever. But if I were
> so inclined, this season would be one of those times.
>
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> Sean (normally of Washington, DC)
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Boocock 
> To: leedslist 
> Sent: Sat, Dec 24, 2016 8:10 am
> Subject: [LU] Season's Greetings
>
> Listers one and all,
>
> Best wishes for the festive season from all at Betty Towers. Here's hoping
> for a points filled new year for all Leeds fans wherever you may be.
>
> Marching On Together!
>
> Betty
>
> (Cue festive jingly bells and the sound of an international internet
> chorus of "Leeds, Leeds, Leeds")
>
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Re: [LU] Non LU: Tablet advice

[Paul Cundell]

Plenty on aliexpress though, with even more discounts for using the app

On 28 Nov 2016 14:18, "Richard Naef" 
wrote:

> > If you can order from china on something like Ali baba/geek buying have a
> > look at the teclast x98 II plus (think that's right)
>
> being Chinese there are loads of similar ones to this around like this one;
>
> funnily enuff I was looking for something similar - the model Matt suggests
> seems to be out of stock, but there is a black Friday deal on something a
> bit larger with a   keyboard - screen res isn't quite so good.
>
> http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Package-A-Teclast-
> TBook11-10-6--Duanl-Boot-4G
> B-64GB-2in1-Tablet-370280.html
>
>
> ttfn
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Matt
> > Anderson
> > Sent: 28 November 2016 13:05
> > To: Ian Murray
> > Cc: Leeds List
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Non LU: Tablet advice
> >
> > If you can order from china on something like Ali baba/geek buying have a
> > look at the teclast x98 II plus (think that's right)
> >
> > I bought the x98 air as a cheap android for watching football streams and
> it
> > was pretty good. Screen = to my iPad.
> >
> > It's dual boot windows and android and has office on it etc it's almost a
> > laptop replacement for me for short trips. You can load films on with I
> think
> > up to 128gb ad card
> >
> > Android is 5.1 and you can put mobdro and kodi on for watching football
> > and films
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> > Have been looking at the newer ones as my mum has "borrowed" mine and I
> > was stuck abroad last week with no way to watch Newcastle game
> >
> > Matt
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> > Sent from my iPhone
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> > > Hi all
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> > > I'm in the market for a new tablet. Mainly want it for watching films
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> > planes, taking on holiday etc.
> > >
> > > Don't want to spend too much but would like decent bang for buck.
> > requirements - decent sized screed with decent resolution, fast,
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Re: [LU] Rotherham

[Paul Cundell]

And flashes of truly awful defending!

On 26 Nov 2016 19:14, "Ted"  wrote:

> I think there's flashes of decent play. Admittedly, it's against the team
> at the bottom.
>
> Still the best period we've had for a while  (bar Geordies)
>
> I'm still not convinced by Philips tho, maybe I'm missing something.
>
> On 26 Nov 2016 7:01 p.m., "Richard Walker" 
> wrote:
>
> > Poor football from us Ted if we're honest. Of course , it's 3 points and
> > we're all happy
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On 26 Nov 2016, at 18:52, Ted  wrote:
> > >
> > > Jeez - you can't please some people, two nil up away from home ffs.
> > >
> > > Believe! MOT
> > >
> > >> On 26 Nov 2016 6:51 p.m.,  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> What that man said
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my Windows 10 phone
> > >>
> > >> From: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
> > >> Sent: 26 November 2016 17:59
> > >> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> > >> Subject: [LU] Rotherham
> > >>
> > >> Are truly awful. We should be playing quicker and getting at them
> more.
> > >>
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Re: [LU] Rotherham

[Paul Cundell]

Behave David, it makes a change for me to agree with Rich Walker!

On 26 Nov 2016 18:29, <davidwool...@gmail.com> wrote:

> By God the list is a bunch is miserable g1ts sometimes!!!
>
>
>   Original Message
> From: Paul Cundell
> Sent: Saturday, 26 November 2016 19:28
> To: {broken-address} Richard Walker
> Cc: Leeds List; {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
> Subject: Re: [LU] Rotherham
>
> It is a good job they're sh*te, even when offside they can't hit the target
> from inside the six yard box, but we go into half time 2 up and I know you
> can only beat what's in front of you but if we play like this on Tuesday it
> will be bloody embarrassing.
> Cheers
> Paul
>
> On 26 Nov 2016 18:18, "{broken-address} Richard Walker" <
> richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
> They've been the best team since they went down to 10 men. Cooper done nowt
> wrong but we're not the same at the back without Jansson
>
> Philips and O'Kane weak in midfield. Woods despite his goal is static and
> has the touch of a rapist.
>
>
> > On 26 Nov 2016, at 17:58, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
> arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> > Are truly awful. We should be playing quicker and getting at them more.
> >
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Re: [LU] Rotherham

[Paul Cundell]

It is a good job they're sh*te, even when offside they can't hit the target
from inside the six yard box, but we go into half time 2 up and I know you
can only beat what's in front of you but if we play like this on Tuesday it
will be bloody embarrassing.
Cheers
Paul

On 26 Nov 2016 18:18, "{broken-address} Richard Walker" <
richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

They've been the best team since they went down to 10 men. Cooper done nowt
wrong but we're not the same at the back without Jansson

Philips and O'Kane weak in midfield. Woods despite his goal is static and
has the touch of a rapist.


> On 26 Nov 2016, at 17:58, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
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>
> Are truly awful. We should be playing quicker and getting at them more.
>
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Re: [LU] Fixtures out

[Paul Cundell]

Brighton away on a Friday night
On 22 Jun 2016 09:57, "{broken-address} Richard Walker" <
richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Anyone interested ?  Is this list down
> QPR away and Brum at home to start
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Re: [LU] Fwd: NON LU: European Referendum

[Paul Cundell]

Oh okay I didn't realise that being  born in Scotland with Scottish parents
and grandparents is sufficient grounds to be called a cockney these days
but hey ho
On 9 Jun 2016 08:47, "Ian Murray" <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Forgot to share this fascinating epistle with the list...:)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> > From: Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com>
> > Date: 9 June 2016 at 15:26:18 AWST
> > To: Paul Cundell <p...@cundell.com>
> > Subject: Re: [LU] NON LU: European Referendum
> >
> > I know where he was born but that doesn't make him Scottish.
> >
> > My sister was born in Joburg but she's not South African.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 9 Jun 2016, at 15:10, Paul Cundell <p...@cundell.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> What would you call someone born in Edinburgh? :)
> >>
> >> On 9 Jun 2016 02:23, "Ian Murray" <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Think it's a bit of a stretch to call Blair Scottish.
> >> >
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Re: [LU] NON LU: European Referendum

[Paul Cundell]

What would you call someone born in Edinburgh? :)

On 9 Jun 2016 02:23, "Ian Murray"  wrote:
>
> Think it's a bit of a stretch to call Blair Scottish.
>
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Re: [LU] NON LU: European Referendum

[Paul Cundell]

On 8 Jun 2016 23:21, "Rob Heath"  wrote:
>
> That is exactly right.
>
> The Scots were bitching and moaning about the metropolitan elite down in
> London running their country

What makes me laugh about that complaint is that for the majority of the 20
years prior to the referendum it was England that was run by Scots - Blair,
Brown and Darling are all Scots
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Re: [LU] NONLU: EU

[Paul Cundell]

On 8 June 2016 at 10:15, Matt Anderson  wrote:
> Exactly! I despise politicians they are all in it for themselves  not us. You 
> only have to look at boris's pro eu comments when it suited him a couple of 
> years ago
>

Or Camerons's volte face on the radical/proud muslim London Mayor Sadiq Khan
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Re: [LU] Mouth watering 2nd Division next year?

[Paul Cundell]

I don't think he'll regret very much if he sells 15k ST's by June tbh

On 20 Apr 2016 14:42, "Damian Walsh"  wrote:
>
> The season ticket offer is even more attractive when you consider that the
> second division next year could include Leeds, Aston Villa, Newcastle,
> Sunderland not to mantion a team managed by Clough.
>
> Cellino might regret selling extra season tickets because of the potential
> of quite a few matches to attract full houses (if we're any good).
>
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Re: [LU] sums it up

[Paul Cundell]

I get Rich's messages as long as I look in my SPAM folder:
" Why is this message in Spam? It has a from address in yahoo.co.uk
but has failed yahoo.co.uk's required tests for authentication.  "

On 12 April 2016 at 21:02, Richard Walker  wrote:
> Cheers.
>
>
>> On 12 Apr 2016, at 21:00, Richard Naef  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Don't worry Rich, I'm getting all your posts to the list.
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Richard Walker
>>> Sent: 12 April 2016 20:55
>>> To: Simon McNally
>>> Cc: Leeds List
>>> Subject: Re: [LU] sums it up
>>>
>>> Get In. 2-0
>>>
>>>
 On 9 Apr 2016, at 13:03, Simon McNally  wrote:

 They look disjointed and disorganised. Whatever spirit we might have had
>>> is gone. We don't look like we're set up to score, just to not concede too
>>> many.
 Saw Strachan in the crowd. He must hate this

 Sent from my iPhone

> On 9 Apr 2016, at 12:58, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
>
> "all Leeds attacking resources are in the 6 yard area" - says the
> commentator In comes the cross from the corner - and goes midway
>>> between the 6yd box and edge of penalty area !! - 5 yards away from where
>>> we wanted and needed it !
> So many things wrong with this team that it is hard to see how anyone
> can turn it round Dave
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Re: [LU] Jimmy Hill RIP

[Paul Cundell]

Tad confused as to what we had that was 'fucked up' by Sky to be
honest, unsafe grounds, paddling in piss, tooled up firms, valley
parade, hillsborough and a national game the nation was ashamed to
admit it followed is what I remember from the dark ages.

Cheers

On 19 December 2015 at 14:20, Andy Clayton  wrote:
> Don't get me started on Jimmy Hill. Him & sky are the ones who fucked it all 
> up for the rest of us.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 19 Dec 2015, at 14:10, Brendan Osborne  wrote:
>>
>> RIP Indeed - the face of MOTD when I was growing up.
>>
>> Ossie
>>
>>> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 14:08:25 +
>>> From: nat...@sky.com
>>> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
>>> Subject: [LU] Jimmy Hill RIP
>>>
>>> Title says it all really, Jimmy Hill is dead.Like him or hate him he 
>>> certainly did a lot to change football , not all of it for the best but he 
>>> certainly left his markRIP 'the Chin'
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Re: [LU] FFS

[Paul Cundell]

I'd guess Gary Kelly was on a lot more than Byram has been offered.

On 23 Sep 2015 14:59, "Jeremy Adams"  wrote:
>
> I do too. Mind you if he was on a salary that was over inflated in
relation to his value to the team then I think it's fair enough to offer
him less money, just don't expect him to stay and don't be upset when he
tells you to f*ck off. You're not going to see the "one club" player these
days like Gary Kelly, too much wedge involved.
>
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Re: [LU] FFS

[Paul Cundell]

Seems to me that Byram is right then, take a pay cut and play for a
mediocre championship side or look for pastures new? I know what I'd be
doing.


On 22 September 2015 at 17:58, Matt Anderson  wrote:

> @PhilHayYEP: Massimo Cellino tells Sky Sports that Sam Byram thinks Leeds
> United are "not big enough for him":
> http://t.co/lNgSbcWnyK #lufc
>
> @PhilHayYEP: Important context here is that Leeds were offering Byram a
> reduction to his weekly wage:
> https://t.co/9tq7uNbDfE #lufc
>
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[LU] Football League Tonight

[Paul Cundell]

The Leeds fan stood behind Kelly when she was on about the former England
players now managing in the League was my son Thomas, who some might recall
kept Peter Reid's selection secret and was a mascot against Watford in the
first championship season.
Cheers
Paul
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Re: [LU] The poke

[Paul Cundell]

It's not what you know it's who you know :)

On 26 July 2015 at 22:06, Matt Anderson m...@leeds-united.net wrote:

 http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2014/03/11/tweet-day/

 One of our own listers on the poke??


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Re: [LU] The circus is getting a new clown...

[Paul Cundell]

Never heard of the 'Wet Wednesday In Wigan' syndrome?

On 19 May 2015 at 16:36, [broken-address] Nicholas Armit 
arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org wrote:

 True. Just not sure I agree with the way he handled certain players
 post-Christmas. Yes there was an improvement in results for a while but by
 all accounts that included lucky wins. I obviously did not see the whole
 season, but there was a period in November when I was able to watch here in
 the US and the football played was better than anything Leeds had played
 for years. I was hopeful then. Then when a drop in form happened in
 December all the talk was of English championship players.

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Re: [LU] Anyone else..........

[Paul Cundell]

Yeah Matt, rather him and Beckford than Franchise FC but if they stay down
they'll have lots of lucrative derbies with Blackpool and Wigan! Muhahahaha



On 4 May 2015 at 11:01, Matt Anderson m...@leeds-united.net wrote:

 Feel sorry for Grayson though,  no real interest in Preston but wanted
 them to go up for him.


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Re: [LU] April 1st

[Paul Cundell]

Yeah I saw a headline in Metro that claimed Andros 'Townsend hit screamer
in Turin' - obviously an April Fool as Neil Warnock would confirm he wasn't
good enough for Championship football!
Cheers


On 1 April 2015 at 11:25, Rob Heath rhe...@hkis.edu.hk wrote:

 Judging by the headlines on Newsnow/Leeds United there are a lot of lame
 attempts at April Fools pranks doing the rounds.

 Sadly, I fear that the Lewis Cook injury stories are not amongst them.
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Re: [LU] more trouble at t'mill?

[Paul Cundell]

It's late March is Cellino debarred now?

On 23 Mar 2015 15:40, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk
wrote:

 
  Just read that Matt Childs, COO, resigned from the club this morning.
  Been reported on the YEP, Phil Hay twitter etc. Not seen any comments as
 to
  why...

 maybe he was one of the Leeds fans in the Blackpool end that got thrown
out?
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Re: [LU] Walker's most derided match report XI

[Paul Cundell]

In the words of Balotelli 'Why Me?, Rich 'loved' Mark Humphries more than
me!

Cheers
Paul
PS Is that like Away In The :-)

On 8 January 2015 at 22:29, Ben Thorpe bstho...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

 This made me think of a new thread:


 Manger - Paul Cundell\David Hockaday

 Anyone with a better memory?


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Re: [LU] Happy Christmas and All The Best for The New Year

[Paul Cundell]

On 25 Dec 2014 22:13, N H bl...@att.net wrote:

 Merry Christmas to all and to all a good  ;-)

 Glad to see Steve in better health once again. A fine gift to the list/



Hear Hear
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Re: [LU] Transfer Ebargoes

[Paul Cundell]

Must be GFH because Mr Harvey wouldn't have been so irresponsible, would he?

On 16 Dec 2014 12:01, phillshields phillshie...@hotmail.com wrote:

 GFH my suspects.

 MOT


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Re: [LU] Transfer Ebargoes

[Paul Cundell]

I'm sure if Mr Harvey had been involved he would have ensured that GFH were
fit and proper with a viable business plan not likely to fall foul of
football league regulations.  It's not as if he presided over 2
administrations with 2 football clubs is it?

On 16 Dec 2014 18:19, Phill Shields phillshie...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Didn't Mr Harvey get them in?

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Re: [LU] Blackpool - LUTV

[Paul Cundell]

To be fair it didn't seem to slow King Billy down..depends what they're
smoking I guess.

On 10 November 2014 21:21, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 No wonder they're struggling to run after 45 mins.


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Re: [LU] Cardiff line up

[Paul Cundell]

Did anybody, however optimistic, really think we would beat Cardiff today?
Didn't everybody think 'Redders beat easy teams last time but Cardiff won't
be so easy'?
Darko lost to good teams and bad luck, Redders beat poor teams and rode his
luck.
I think Redders is the right man for the coaches job but hell one defeat
doesn't mean he isn't.
Cheers
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Re: [LU] Leeds United poised to announce Darko Milanic as manager this weekend, claim SkySports

[Paul Cundell]

Careful Ian you said similar about BMac and they found someone to prove you
wrong. :-)

On 20 September 2014 11:10, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote:

 No one's worse than Hockaday


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Re: [LU] Leeds United poised to announce Darko Milanic as manager this weekend, claim SkySports

[Paul Cundell]

If you say so

On 20 Sep 2014 11:24, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I never said anything of the sort.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 20 Sep 2014, at 18:15, Paul Cundell p...@cundell.com wrote:

 Careful Ian you said similar about BMac and they found someone to prove
you wrong. :-)

 On 20 September 2014 11:10, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com
wrote:

 No one's worse than Hockaday

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Re: [LU] Leeds United poised to announce Darko Milanic as manager this weekend, claim SkySports

[Paul Cundell]

I thought he'd broken his foot?!?

On 20 Sep 2014 11:52, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Anyway back to the game today, just heading off. Is Mowatt fit, and if so
will he get in the team?
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Re: [LU] you lot know best...

[Paul Cundell]

I think Xmas may be too late, Led.

On 29 Aug 2014 11:23, Led Morrish edmorr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm willing to give us until Christmas, but if there's no sign of
improvement I'm afraid we'll have to go.
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Re: [LU] Howson?

[Paul Cundell]

http://mobile.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Championship/Norwich+City/Midfielders/Jonny+Howson
On 25 Aug 2014 08:22, Robert Heath rhe...@asd.edu.qa wrote:

 Anyone know what's going on with Jonny Howson?

 I've made my Championship Fantasy team with all Leeds or ex-Leeds players
 (and I didn't even need to resort to Becchio, Varney or
Douglas!)...but
 where is Jonny? He hasn't even been on the bench yet for Norwich.
 Presumably he must be injured.

 P.S. Readers will not be surprised to learn that my team is bottom of our
 mini-league!
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Re: [LU] Watford

[Paul Cundell]

On 25 Aug 2014 11:54, John Lee bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Presumably if I pop round his pad and discuss the merits of an abacus for
5 hours he'll let me have a crack at his tax returns?

 Absolutely crazy!


When you think about it that would explain a few things.

Cheers
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[LU] Hockaday was head hunted!

[Paul Cundell]

From the Torygraph:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/leeds-united/11007951/Leeds-United-manager-Dave-Hockaday-desperate-to-defy-his-doubters-at-Elland-Road-this-season.html

Leeds United manager Dave Hockaday desperate to defy his doubters at Elland
Road this season

By Luke Edwards
8:36PM BST 02 Aug 2014
Less than a year ago Hockaday was in charge at Conference side Forest Green
Rovers. He was sacked last October – and has now been charged with reviving
Leeds' fortunes

Dave Hockaday’s appointment as Leeds United’s new head coach came as a
surprise to everyone, except the man himself. What he may lack in
experience, the club’s eighth manager in 10 years makes up for in
self-belief.

“I don’t doubt myself,” he says. “I’ve been involved in professional
football for 40 years, I’ve coached in the Premier League and I believe
I’ve got a solid CV.”

It seems a curious comment for a man who has never managed in the Football
League and who was sacked by Conference side Forest Green Rovers in October
last year, but then again Leeds are a curious club.

It has been 10 years since they last graced the Premier League, a decade
that has seen seven managers fail to keep results on the pitch in line with
the giddy expectations of supporters and directors alike.

There have been old managers and young ones, former players, club legends
and even old adversaries like Championship promotion specialist, Neil
Warnock, but none have lasted long.
Now it is Hockaday’s turn, the 56-year-old having been personally
headhunted by the club’s new owner Massimo Cellino.

To say that his arrival was greeted with disgruntlement by supporters would
be something of an understatement.

Even before he had taken a training session, let alone played a game, a
poll in the Yorkshire Evening Press revealed that 85 per cent of supporters
opposed his appointment.

It is the kind of reception that would have crushed most rookie managers,
but not Hockaday.

“I came in and there was a little bit of chaos going on, but I’ve been very
pleased with how things have gone” said Hockaday.

“I wasn’t surprised I got the job because I didn’t apply for it. I was
approached.

“I met the president a few times and I was offered the job. I weighed
everything up, but it only took a split second for me to accept because I’m
comfortable with what was offered.

“I’m not the manager in the English sense, I’m the head coach. I don’t do
any negotiating on transfers or contracts, I coach the team and that’s my
passion, that is what I want to do more than anything else. But I have to
earn the respect of the supporters, I accept that.”

Hockaday talks of already seeing “green shoots of recovery” and repeatedly
praised the players for their willingness to embrace his ideas, but he also
delivered a reality check just in case there are those who expect him to
win promotion in his first season.

“Leeds United are one of the biggest clubs in the country, we have fans all
over the world, but we are a bottom half of the table Championship team.
That’s where we finished and the table doesn’t lie.

“We have more potential than most to play in the Premier League, but we
have a million miles to go. That’s the ambition, but we are going to do
things step by step and I intend to be here for a long time.”

Cellino was so desperate to buy Leeds four months ago that he took the
Football League to court after initially failing their fit and proper
persons test for new owners due to having a previous conviction for fraud.
As yet, however, he has done nothing to prove he will succeed where Ken
Bates and DFH Capital did not.

He was a controversial figure as owner of Italian club Cagliari, and while
he has rescued Leeds from another crippling spell in administration, there
is little confidence things will improve dramatically on the pitch: this
summer has seen stories of drastic cost-cutting at the training ground and
goalkeeper Paddy Kenny being sacked reportedly because he was born on May
17 (Cellino considers the number unlucky).

Last season’s captain and top goalscorer Ross McCormack has also been sold
to Fulham for

£7 million as the Scotland international was disillusioned with the
treatment of former manager Brian McDermott.

Hockaday has no say over transfers, which are controlled by Cellino and
sporting director Nicola Salerno, and there is a distinctly Italian flavour
to recruitment: Marco Silvestri from Chievo, Tommaso Bianchi from Sassuolo,
Gaetano Berardi from Samdoria and Souleymane Doukara, from Catania.

Leeds have shown an interest in former Newcastle United striker Nile
Ranger, who had his contract terminated by Swindon Town six months ago, but
the only domestic signing is goalkeeper Stuart Taylor from Reading.

Cellino has no intention of spending lavishly chasing the promotion dream,
which is why Hockaday believes he is the ideal person to look after the
team.

“He wants to be successful, he wants to leave a legacy, but when you are
climbing Everest it might 

Re: [LU] lost 2 - 0 at Mansfield

[Paul Cundell]

Is a loan nut job, someone who uses Wonga or the renting of a testicle?

The real crux of this argument is who would you want instead?
You wanted BMc out, you got your wish.
You said anybody would be better, you got your wish there too.
So really you more than most should have to suck it up.
You regularly refuse to give an opinion, other than wanting rid of the
current incumbent,  of who you would accept.
Italian League 4 is below English conference standard, yet you suggest
Carbone is better qualified than Hock to coach the team, now who's the
climate change denier?
Supporting the unsupportable is what being a Leeds fan is all about, n'est
pas?

On 25 Jul 2014 01:02, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote:

 So wanting a failed non league manager out of Leeds is like being a
climate change denier? Good analogy. I'd switch that and say that the
overwhelming evidence is that Hockaday is shit, and that there are a few
loan nut jobs who think that supporting the unsupportable makes them better
fans. The proper analogy is that it's them who are the climate change
deniers.

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Re: [LU] lost 2 - 0 at Mansfield

[Paul Cundell]

On 25 Jul 2014 08:34, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Thought some pedant or penis would pick up on the obvious typo - lo and
behold I get both in one poster. Two for one!!


Interesting, you can pick up on Phill about his typo, you can pick up on me
about mine but I pick you up on yours I'm a pedant. What's good for the
goose is surely good for the gander?

 As for 'anyone will do' - I don't believe I said that about McD's
successor so Id really rather you didn't put words in my mouth.


'My grandmother could do better' us the phrase I recall,  but as you never
suggested a candidate we will never know any further insights.

 How do you know Italian league 4 is below conference standard? Watched
much of it have you?


Have you? You're the one recommending a coach from there over a former
premiership assistant coach.

 As for CarboneHockaday: this is clearly the case. Carbone was as good at
football as you are bad at posting to this list.

Pot, kettle, black, this list is full of your stuck record postings
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Re: [LU] Good (?) article in mailonline

[Paul Cundell]

There's no such thing as a good article in mailonline.There's very rarely a
true article in mailonline. Ask George Clooney. 'Sources' tend to be the
tea lady in the Mail canteen and 'Sources Close' tend to be the post boy to
the Sports Editor.
Cheers
Paul


On 20 July 2014 09:41, nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com wrote:

 The 'Headline read

 Leeds United - Still Damned after all these years? Fans should be wary of
 convicted fraudster Massimo Cellino, as Italian owner promises Premier
 League football by 2016

 * Italian has told players to bring their own sandwiches to
 training, buy their own matchday socks and demanded they live in Leeds

 * He hired Dave Hockaday off the back of seven defeats in eight
 games for Forest Green Rovers

 * Cellino has promised to buy back Elland Road 'by November' and
 said the club will be playing Premier League football within two years
 * Fans are believing in the Italian after the nightmare they have
 endured under owners like Peter Risdale


 It then gives a summary of Cellino so far and a few other things re Bromby
 and Naylor
 Is mainly anti Cellino without being a real hatchet job and sort of sums
 up many of the views on this list and elsewhere


 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2698679/Leeds-United-Still-Damned-years-Fans-wary-Italian-owner-Massimo-Cellino.html


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Re: [LU] Cellino

[Paul Cundell]

Don't worry Phill, I doubt Ian will be getting a bus in to Elland Road next
season.
Cheers
Paul


On 18 July 2014 20:06, Phill Shields phillshie...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I don't think you should under estimate the link between politics and
 football in Italy. MC played games far from home to make a point.

 I have only stated facts. The way you feel you should stay away next
 season mate. I get impression you want us to fail.


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Re: [LU] Player must live in Leeds

[Paul Cundell]

It's a lot closer than Norn Iron was and you still are closer.
Let's face it the training ground isn't 'in Leeds', Harrogate is probably
closer than Thorp Arch to Elland Road.
Today's players can't afford Linton Common I guess.
Be a bit harsh if they have to move to Taddy though just to have an LS
postcode.

Paul


On 11 July 2014 22:20, Verner Hanna (Jnr) errand.fivef...@talk21.com
wrote:

 In my book it does. Moved from Norn Iron in 1999 to get my season ticket.
 Planned to live in Leeds  but fell for the charms of Harrogate.
 6 brilliant years in Harrogate before moving to the sticks. Harrogate is
 a quick blast on the train to Leeds so always felt Leeds to me.
 No doubt die hard will give me grief, but I really enjoyed Harrogate.
 And it always felt Leeds to me.

 IMHO

 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Anderson m...@leeds-united.net
 Sent: ‎11/‎07/‎2014 22:01
 To: Jeremy Adams jeremyadam...@hotmail.com
 Cc: Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: Re: [LU] Player must live in Leeds

 Does Harrogate count as living in Leeds?


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Re: [LU] Squad arrived in Italy

[Paul Cundell]

I don't think Paddy Kenny is injured, I just don't think they had seats big
enough on the plane.
https://vine.co/v/MF16HrEKZ7A

Cheers
Paul


On 30 June 2014 20:32, Parish, Steve C steve.par...@ccfe.ac.uk wrote:

 The Leeds squad who have arrived in Italy are:

 Alex Cairns
 Sam Byram
 Jason Pearce
 Tom Lees
 Charlie Taylor
 Stephen Warnock
 Ross Killock
 Aidy White
 Jake Skelton
 Luke Murphy
 Michael Tonge
 David Norris
 Zac Thompson
 Lewis Cook
 Chris Dawson
 Noel Hunt
 Dominic Poleon
 Steve Morison
 Matt Smith
 Lewis Walters

 Absentees due to injury are:

 Alex Mowatt
 Scott Wootton
 Paddy Kenny
 Marius Zaliukas

 Rudy Austin is expected to join the squad in a few days.  But the obvious
 absentee is Ross McCormack.  Has he asked to leave?
 Also, I see Steve Morison has come back.  Does this mean we can all get
 our 'Morison' shirts back out again?


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Re: [LU] Dave Hockawho

[Paul Cundell]

Some people should be careful what they wish for!
Still, you lot know best.

On 19 Jun 2014 02:47, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote:

 It's a joke that some 20 something stupid Italian kid is basically
running our club (further into the ground). To be honest I just feel numb
about us at the moment. Can neither get excited nor depressed. I'm just
sick of the constant humiliation and ridiculousness of everything about the
club.

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Re: [LU] Dave Hockawho

[Paul Cundell]

Was it too complicated for you?
Did I use words with more than one syllable?
Are you sure 'nobody' wanted Cellino in charge or do you have the authority
to speak for everybody?
McDermott has gone, you got your wish. Hope you're happy, that is all.

On 19 Jun 2014 08:09, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote:

 What are you actually on about? Spit it out.

 Nobody wanted Cellino in charge, but it was obvious GFH were totally
ruining us.

 This does not detract from the fact that McDermott lost the plot and on
the basis of his record had to go.

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Re: [LU] Dave Hockawho

[Paul Cundell]

That's what I love about this list, you can always guarantee having a nice
balanced argument without someone resorting to instant insults.



On 19 June 2014 08:25, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote:

 You really do come across as an insufferable bell end.


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Re: [LU] Dave Hockawho

[Paul Cundell]

That really does depend on how you define 'normal standards' and whether
the recent situation at LUFC could be defined as 'normal'.


On 19 June 2014 08:27, Matt Anderson m...@leeds-united.net wrote:

 They are quite different things.

 McDermott was by normal standards not doing a good job as manager no
 matter who was in charge.

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Re: [LU] McDermot leaves by mutual consent

[Paul Cundell]

We've got to get to the end of the month, before we can even think about
next seasons squad.
We've got to pay the current mob for last month before we can think of
paying anyone else.
Hardly the basis for optimism when the unpaid first team have nowhere to
keep fit over the summer.

On 2 Jun 2014 17:12, Matt Anderson m...@leeds-united.net wrote:

 Cant see the problem to be honest...

 Got a bloke in charge who is mad instead of a greedy money grabber. (he
defo
 isn't that after paying over the odds)

 He is going through the club cutting out problems.  He is meeting all the
 players, he is assessing what's there.

 He sacked a manager that we all thought was not up to it, he has released
 people we didn't want to see playing for Leeds

 Personally I am strapping myself in for a more entertaining ride over the
 next few years compared to the grim death of the club under Bates and the
 hapless mismanagement of GFH.
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Re: [LU] McDermot leaves by mutual consent

[Paul Cundell]

All I know is Ross was looking for somewhere to train before his Scotland
game. Bit of a stretch to say sort yourselves out we need to save a couple
of hundred quid from a guy worth millions, don't you think?
Due diligence would have uncovered all legitimate debts and Bates' Sport
Capital wouldn't be in a position to argue a fictitious debt.
It isn't exactly financial prudence to allow a situation to develop to the
point where you can't pay your staff.
It all smacks of financial ineptitude on a Professor McKenzie scale.

On 2 Jun 2014 17:32, Matt Anderson m...@leeds-united.net wrote:

 I believe the issue with the first team was they were supposed to
be/expecting to be keeping fit in Dubai (Murphy) Miami (Byram) and Magaluf
other places for another month rather than Thorpe Arch.



 The unpaid thing is a technicality though.  You can’t pay players from a
personal account and the Haigh/whoever run sport capital have wound us up
for less than £1m and the account is frozen
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Re: [LU] McDermot leaves by mutual consent

[Paul Cundell]

Dunno, I think giving up on football would be quite easy at the moment.
Disillusioned with overpaid prima donnas play acting, money grabbing
corporates skimming off the cream and a national association that cares
less about creating a successful national team and more about generating
revenue for its top sides to give to the overpaid prima donnas.
What is there to miss?
At least the egg chasers put in a shift.

On 1 Jun 2014 11:21, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote:

 It's not like you can start again though is it? You can't just go out and
shag someone else!!

 You'd have to give football up.

 You might be different but personally I think that that is an
unacceptable proposition.

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Re: [LU] McDermott Gone

[Paul Cundell]

And your condemnation of BMc IS fair?
We lost ONE game after the Cellino takeover.
What in Cellino's portfolio has led to you having such a blind faith in his
intentions?
What proof have you of this funding? The club bank account is frozen, we
can't take credit card payments for ST's, Thorp Arch is shut and he's
playing Call My Bluff with a winding up order. He's had to beg BMc to leave
by mutual consent because he couldn't afford to sack him. Any monies he has
put in will be as secured loans.
Why does Cellino 'deserve' a chance? He deserves nothing. We deserve that
he keeps his promises or at least explains why he can't. Making promises he
fails to keep is not going to endear him to me and nor should it you.
We were in contention at Xmas then the sh#t hit the fan and it all went
tit's up.

On 31 May 2014 12:54, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote:

 You're comparing Cellino with GFH  and Bates? Completely unfair and
baseless. The guy has poured money into us of late. The other two did the
opposite.
 As for McDermott. He ran a team with relegation form. None of the
shenanigans off the field can excuse the bad decisions made by him.
 Cellino  may well not work. But he deserves a chance.
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Re: [LU] McDermott Gone

[Paul Cundell]

Was it?
I thought you were serious, after all the similarities between Revie/Clough
and Fergie/Moyes shouldn't be dismissed. Moyes tried to work with an ageing
squad of title winning players,  Clough tried to clear them out. Most of
Clough's targets were gone in a couple of seasons, most of the MUFC has
beens will be soon. I'd be happy to be Moyes' Forest.

On 31 May 2014 13:17, Ed Morrish edmorr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, that was trolling, sorry.

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Re: [LU] McDermott Gone

[Paul Cundell]

And which league winning manager do you think we're capable of attracting?
And how long will you give him to turn the ship around before calling for
his head? 6 games? 16 games? 26 games? 36 games?

On 31 May 2014 13:37, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Clough had won the league before he came to us. Moyes has won nothing.

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Re: [LU] McDermott Gone

[Paul Cundell]

Have you forgotten Adamson?
The others you mention all had one thing BMc never had, the full and
committed backing of the club. Hell Clarke got a million to spend on Peter
Barnes and El Tel signed Okon. As well as thinking that a midfield of
McPhail,  Burns and Barmby could do a job.

On 31 May 2014 18:54, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 I agree with your concern about Cellino and the future. God knows what
will happen next ? But when it comes to BMD I can't think of a worse
manager we've had. Maybe Allan Clarke and Terry Venebles come close but I
think BMD wins the day. Clueless tactics, beyond belief team selections,
incredibly bad signings and loan signings. All round complete disaster.
Nice bloke yes but that don't mean much does it?

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Re: [LU] Pugh

[Paul Cundell]

Don't know about sense Rich, his contract isn't being renewed is part of
the cost cutting rather than any footballing judgement.
Outcome is the same though.

On 16 May 2014 21:17, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Released ... At last some sense.

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Re: [LU] Wickham

[Paul Cundell]

Ian M wrote:
Completely agreed on this one Phill. It's astonishing really.

What's astonishing really is that you felt the need to repost 2 complete emails 
and footers just to inform us that you agree with someone who agrees with you! 
Shock horror! 
BMc still has a job I see, maybe not everyone agrees with you then, but, silly 
me, you know best.
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Re: [LU] Wickham

[Paul Cundell]

Look out here come the thought police!
Didn't realise you were only allowed an opinion as long as it agreed with
Ian.
You know best.

On 6 May 2014 10:43, Peter Castlehouse dubca...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Actually Ian, I am with you for your first sentence - Paul, have you gone
off your medication, as you are seriously attacking people who disagree
with your point of view, and have been doing so for days and over many
emails - ?

 Paul, Please. Calm. Down?
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Re: [LU] Wickham

[Paul Cundell]

Thank you Graham, at least somebody got the joke.

On 6 May 2014 13:04, Graham White gcwhite2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Still you lot know best - whose tag line was that back in the Great
Wilko Flame War?   Was it VoF or Pope Paul?

 The good old days :-)
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Re: [LU] Wickham

[Paul Cundell]

There's nothing angry in my replies.
As I recall we did play both, but that's not good enough for you, you seem
to want us to have built a team around a loan player.
Seems pretty clueless to me but you know best.

On 4 May 2014 05:04, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote:

 You need to stop being so angry. It's not good for you.

 Why can't we play the both? McCormack is a number 10 type player,
dropping deeper etc, Wickham is a target man. He's definitely not a left
winger anyway.

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Re: [LU] Wickham

[Paul Cundell]

You certainly did. I was making the point that Wickham's loan was cancelled
because GFH couldn't afford him not because BMc thought he wasn't good
enough.

On 3 May 2014 10:02, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 I said he my match reports that he was a class above but he was playing
on the wing !?

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Re: [LU] Wickham

[Paul Cundell]

You 'know besters' can chunter on here all you want but I can guarantee
that BMc will NOT be sacked before kick off.
Playing players 'out of position' is a fictional excuse, players play out
if position all the time. Would you prefer Wickham had played upfront
instead of Ross? I doubt it.

On 3 May 2014 11:17, rhys hodge r.ho...@xtra.co.nz wrote:

 It didn't help that McD thought he was a right wing and played him out of
position. The fact fact that GFH could not afford him doesn't hide the fact
that we did not get the best out of him because McD does not have a clue
and played him out of position. Right winger - right!
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Re: [LU] Wickham

[Paul Cundell]

Completely out of position?
If he played him as centre back I'd agree but on the wing of a 3 pronged
attack alongside a 30 goal a season central striker is not 'completely out
of position'.
Anyway you lot know best.

On 3 May 2014 11:15, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote:

 BMC played him completely out of position though Paul.

 We need a new coach now.
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Re: [LU] Wickham

[Paul Cundell]

I'm awesome mate, had a great afternoon with the best fans at the best club
in the world.

But are you alright cos you're not making sense,  Wickham should have
played upfront you said.
Not playing him there proves BMc is clueless you said.
So if Wickham played No 9 where would Ross play? On the wing? Clueless as I
said.

On 3 May 2014 15:50, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Wow.

 I never said he should play instead of McCormack.  Are you ok mate?

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Re: [LU] Wickham

[Paul Cundell]

Nick comes to your rescue so ok come on Mr Football Manager, who were the
rest of this world beating 442 then?
If you reckon we could have played them both upfront name the rest of the
line up.

On 3 May 2014 17:17, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Nick. Are we talking a different language to Paul?

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Re: [LU] Wickham

[Paul Cundell]

On 2 May 2014 14:47, Mark wiscole...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Premier League player of the month. What does that say about Brian's
coaching and management capabilities? Get rid of this guy after the final
whistle of the last game of the season.

I thought Wickham was doing well for us until GFH ran out of money? Brian
Mc at least picked a good young player to take on loan which is better than
Warnock's signing of sh*t old players on long contracts, isn't it?
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Re: [LU] GFH post a profit on Leeds

[Paul Cundell]

Because they paid Uncle Ken less than they sold it for and less than they
thought it was worth.

On 1 May 2014 16:13, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk wrote:

 I can't understand how they can value it at £52m, allegedly sell 75% for
 £25m and say they made £3.8m.


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Re: [LU] Fwd: Trust financial analysis of LUFC account 2013

[Paul Cundell]

I think, but don't know, that the bonus was probably paid to Shaun Harvey
for his part in Bates' sale to GFH. The period we're looking at in these
accounts ended nearly 9 months ago.
It also appears to me to be a tad convenient that the losses during the
period equate to the loans granted by a subsidiary of GFH. Something akin
to the Glaziers takeover of MUFC PLC may well have occurred.

It's a clever ploy to rename the new radio station Radio Yorkshire as that
bears no resemblance to the name of the previous incarnation, does it?
Cheers
Paul


On 13 April 2014 21:55, Joe Skinner jacksonpollocks...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Those figures are bewildering.
 How can they award a bonus when the club's losing money? Who did anything
 approaching 440k's worth of bonus? That's mental.
 If that was a project of ours, or a division of a company, they'd have
 sacked everyone.
 I see fucking Yorkshire Radio raised its ugly head again. Complete joke.

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Re: [LU] Accounts 2!!

[Paul Cundell]

You must be mistaken Ted.
They must be good, else why would one director have gotten a 440k bonus?
Cheers
Paul
On 8 Apr 2014 11:10, Ted tedhea...@gmail.com wrote:

 See the accounts  are out - not good reading!!!


http://www.scribd.com/doc/216979836/Leeds-City-Holdings-Ltd-Accounts-FY2013

 A loss of about £9m!
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Re: [LU] A reasonable assessment of the situation

[Paul Cundell]

Kerr assessed that it was reasonable to assume that though convicted of the
offence, the offence was not a dishonest one. He said that because the
punishment metered out was less than the accepted minimum for such an
offence it was likely that the judge was ruling that Cellino was not
knowingly being dishonest. Unless Kerr's assessment is wrong, the FL will
have no reason to revisit this particular case in June anyway.
However it's up to Cellino to impress us now and come June we might be
begging the FL to disqualify him.
Cheers
Paul

On 6 Apr 2014 10:46, Jim Moran j...@jimmoran.co.uk wrote:

 I can't see it.

 What would the FL do after he'd taken over? Force him to sell the club?
Wind the club up? Once he's in, he's in.

 --

  On 6 Apr 2014, at 09:02, John Boocock j...@boocock.net wrote:
 
  From to Rob Atkinson's blog. A reasonable summary if you ask me.
 
 
http://roblufc.org/2014/04/06/football-league-need-to-be-wary-of-vendetta-accusations-by-rob-atkinson/
 
  The point being that the FL is still in a mess and that this is not
over until the final whistle is blown in the Italian Courts in June.  This
accounts for Kerr's final statement that Cellino is, so to speak, innocent
for the moment.
 
  Could get messier still
 
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Re: [LU] From The Officious Site

[Paul Cundell]

I think Cellino just did.
Dolo Eventuale.
As for the FL not having a vendetta against Leeds, anyone care to explain
why wishing Leeds well was used as a basis by the FL lawyers for decrying
an experts impartiality?
Cheers
Paul

On 5 Apr 2014 15:46, Verner Hanna (Jnr) errand.fivef...@talk21.com
wrote:

 Fuck the FL!
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Re: [LU] From The Officious Site

[Paul Cundell]

The independent expert on Italian law that Kerr consulted finished a social
media message to Cellino with Ciao, Forza Leeds. The FL claimed that this
showed that the expert wasn't impartial. Kerr assessed that everyone at the
hearing would be wishing Leeds well, therefore the phrase indicated no bias
to either party involved.
Cheers
Paul
PS yes I read all 35 pages
PPS yes I'm a sad sack with no life :-)

On 5 Apr 2014 20:56, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Sorry Paul, can you explain this to me.

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