Re: [LU] Henry Winter in the TImes - "why the Prem need Leeds " - great stuff and true

[Paul Dally]

Les Reed RIP

MOT

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Brendan McWilliams
Sent: 16 April 2019 12:17
To: Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] Henry Winter in the TImes - "why the Prem need Leeds " - 
great stuff and true

Hi all,

He might write very well, he might be a Leeds fan, he might be writing 
something nice about LUFC - but Henry Winter's articles are to be avoided. He's 
a sanctimonious peddler of i-told-you-so guff and he rarely actually reveals or 
investigates anything new.

Regardless of club or player, he's there buttering up someone/something when 
they're on the way up - almost as if the respective player/club hired him to do 
good PR. Then he's the first to knock them down when things take a downward 
turn, listing their faults in the past, the same ones he omitted to mention 
when he was buttering them up in the first place.  See his pre-tournament 
England squad coverage.

When the Bielsa adventure ends, he'll be there wanging on about Bielsagate, his 
being set in his ways, uncommunicative etc.  Speaking of which, when Bielsagate 
broke Twitter he let himself in for well deserved stick with his proclamations 
about not-the-done-thing-here there etc and being reminded that he freely spied 
upon the England national team and printed what he saw the very next day.

Give me David Conn any day of the week.

Also, I'm with Richard - Becchio was a living miracle of a footballer.

Regards,

BMW

PS my nerves are wrecked.


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard Walker via 
Leedslist 
Sent: 16 April 2019 10:54
To: Leeds List; nat...@sky.com
Subject: Re: [LU] Henry Winter in the TImes - "why the Prem need Leeds " - 
great stuff and true

He's definitely a Leeds fan
On Tuesday, 16 April 2019, 09:17:15 BST, nat...@sky.com  
wrote:


Why Premier League needs Leeds United

henry winter, chief football writer

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The Premier League needs Leeds United. It needs the mystique of Marcelo Bielsa, 
a manager so beloved by Leeds fans that two of them are in a recording studio 
working on Bucket Man as a musical tribute to his match-day seat of choice. It 
needs Bielsa’s intense, imaginative football. It particularly needs the passion 
of the Leeds faithful.

There are some great travelling supports in the Premier League, such as 
Manchester United and Newcastle United, among others, and Leeds would be a 
welcome addition on the road as well as with the atmosphere that they generate 
at Elland Road. After Leeds played away to Preston North End on April 9, the 
police officer in charge of the away section at Deepdale praised the 5,516 
visiting fans for being “as loud as ever and no issues, no arrests”.

Leeds fans would represent an antidote to some of the ills besetting the 
Premier League. They are the opposite of the glory-hunters swooning because of 
a club’s prominence. Leeds fans might consider a half-and-half scarf if 
stitching together Leeds United and the Kaizer Chiefs, Lucas Radebe’s old team. 
They are the antithesis of what Roy Keane famously termed the “prawn-sandwich 
brigade”. If somebody mentioned opening a tunnel club at Elland Road, the ready 
wits on their terraces would suggest that it was probably an escape route after 
15 years’ incarceration in the EFL.

Supporting Leeds is a passion passed on from generation to generation. When 
they played Sheffield Wednesday on Saturday, there were children too young to 
remember the Premiership years leaning excitedly over the yellow and blue 
railings almost two hours before kick-off at Elland Road, high-fiving Bielsa 
and his players as they marched from the bus.

Three hours later, a fan called Matt Richardson celebrated Jack Harrison’s 
winner so enthusiastically that he broke his ankle. A friend of his took a 
picture of Richardson in his seat afterwards, smiling, his left foot at a 
painful angle, continuing to watching Leeds before the medics arrived. As he 
was helped into a wheelchair, Richardson kept an eye on the game while doing a 
thumbs up to his mates, who took great delight when he was strapped in by 
shouting: “Seatbelt on”.

Richardson later tweeted from hospital that “this is what supporting Leeds 
United does to me” . . . “but idc [I don’t care] because Leeds won”. Victory 
took Leeds to 82 points, four behind the leaders Norwich City and three ahead 
of Sheffield United with four games to play in the compelling race for the two 
automatic promotion positions.

Leeds know they still have major work to complete. They also know how much they 
want it. If Leeds do go up, the city will acquire even more of a buzz, there 
will be more students switching there, and there will be smiles among 
broadcasters, knowing that noise is guaranteed at Elland Road.

After Leeds were relegated from the Premiership after a 4-1 thumping by Bolton 
Wanderers on May 2, 2004, their then caretaker-manager Eddie Gray remarked 
defiantly: “It will not be the end of the club.” No chance. Not with 

Re: [LU] Mourinho

[Paul Dally]

It was 1973-74.

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Tim Leslie
Sent: 19 December 2018 14:39
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Mourinho

Can we, just for a few moments, revel in this moment? We sit proudly at the top 
of the Championship, no we're not the finished article and, if we DO manage to 
keep it up and actually GO up, we'll need to invest in some better players to 
'do a Wolves' and compete up there from the off. 
But we've our club back, our ground back, a legendary manager and we're being 
run well for the first time since I can remember (New badge aside ... ahem!)

Meanwhile, over t'hill the self styled 'United' (Always absolutely loathed this 
Media driven wank, as if they OWN that moniker! If anyone responds to the "Who 
do you support?" question with "United" I start talking to them about Sheffield 
(They were THE first United to be fair to them) and how well they're doing 
under Wilder, confuses the fuck out of the poor prawn sandwich eater, knowing 
I'm a Leeds fan :)) are in freefall. What an absolute delight to watch. It's 
been rumbling on now for, maybe, 3 or 4 years, but it's apparent that they are 
truly rotten to the core and rudderless. £400M spent on 11 players, fuck all 
return on investment. I was hoping Mourinho stayed on, playing his really 
attractive, modern style of football and ground them into a respectable 7th 
place this season ... before a full on relegation battle next.

Not since THE greatest footballing season (1974-5 - LUFC Champions, MUFC
relegated) have a I enjoyed a teams total demise, long may it continue!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46604955

Happy Days

StigOfTheChristmasDump
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Re: [LU] Still 1 up but so, so lucky

[Paul Dally]

test

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of MATTHEW 
GAYNOR
Sent: 08 March 2017 15:02
To: Michael ALCOCK ; Richard Walker 

Cc: Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] Still 1 up but so, so lucky

First half we were dreadful - just could not hang onto the ball and Sacko 
looked particularly poor.However, apart from the odd perfectly good goal - we 
defended pretty well and they didnt create too many chances.
Second half i thought we were more like our usual away performance - soaking up 
pressure and hitting on the counter - i think that is basically how we are set 
up to play.
We were better 2nd half, managed to pass to each other now and then and looked 
dangerous on the break and we could easily have gone 2-0 up. It was only the 
last 10 minutes that the pinball in our box started. Luckily they were as bad 
at corners as we were.

It is a very stressful way to play though - not sure i can take another couple 
of months of that.
Defence universally excellent, Pedrasa looked a bit lost at times but showed 
signs of promise and Doukara put a shift in as they say - but showed why we 
desperately need Wood.
Matt

  From: Michael ALCOCK 
 To: Richard Walker  
Cc: Leeds List 
 Sent: Tuesday, 7 March 2017, 22:09
 Subject: Re: [LU] Still 1 up but so, so lucky
   
Can't fault the effort, but f*ck me we were shit tonight.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 7 Mar 2017, at 20:41, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>  wrote:
> 
> sounds like we haven't had a kick including our goal.
> when will our luck run out ?
> 
>  From: "nat...@sky.com" 
> To: Leeds List  
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 March 2017, 20:18
> Subject: [LU] Still 1 up but so, so lucky
> 
> We getting hammered BUT a silly own goal put us one up and now they have had 
> a shot that hit the bar and bounced a foot or so OVER the line but linesman 
> did not give it - thankfully for us there is no goal line technology so still 
> 1 up after 32 mins
   
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Re: [LU] British passport eligibility!

[Paul Dally]

Is the list down?

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Adams
Sent: 09 June 2016 18:33
To: Richard Naef ; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] British passport eligibility!

Thanks all! will let you know how it all works out.


Jeremy


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard Naef

Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 11:54:28 AM
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] British passport eligibility!

> I can't get to talk to a live person in the UK office about this cos I 
> get
put on
> hold for an hour and I don't want to rack up the world's biggest phone
bill.
> So come on list, once again amaze me with your worldly knowledge, are 
> my kids entitled to become UK citizens if I hold a UK passport?



You seem like a decent chap, so I would have thought so, but the .gov
website has a simple check to see if they are eligible
https://www.gov.uk/check-british-citizen

Citizen's Advice Services are brilliant, but although you are a UK passport
holder they might not be able to help as you live abroad.
www.citizensadvice.org.uk/

I did a little work with Asylum seekers and there are a number of law firms
that specialise in citizenship issues, one example is
http://iasservices.org.uk/  but there are plenty of other but they will
charge.

Finally, just stick em on a plane and let them sort it out on arrival, it
worked for Paddington.

Hope that helps.

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Re: [LU] It's all gone quiet

[Paul Dally]

I think deal will be done tomorrow.
- Original Message - 
From: Verner Hanna errand.fivef...@talk21.com

To: Alec McQueen alec...@gmail.com; Nicholas Armit arm...@yahoo.com
Cc: Leeds United E-MailList leedslist@gn.apc.org
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [LU] It's all gone quiet



Hope so Alec.
Fingers crossed.
WE ARE LEEDS!

-Original Message-
From: Alec McQueen
Sent: 12/07/2012 20:14
To: Nicholas Armit
Cc: Errand Fivefold; Leeds United E-MailList
Subject: Re: [LU] It's all gone quiet

Quiet means all is well. If things were not well bates would be rabbiting 
about lunatic bidders.


These things take time and the fact that nothing has escaped means there 
are some serious people at work.


I am 100% sure bates is a very hard man to do a deal with.

This does not mean the deal is done, but it does mean the deal is 
progressing.


IMHO.

Cheers
Alec

On 13/07/2012, at 3:03 AM, Nicholas Armit arm...@yahoo.com wrote:


far too quiet on the takeover front too. Getting worried



From: Errand Fivefold errand.fivef...@talk21.com
To: Leeds United E-MailList leedslist@gn.apc.org
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:52 PM
Subject: [LU] It's all gone quiet

What's up?
Far too quiet on here

Verner


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Re: [LU] LU: Gary Speed Leeds Legend

[Paul Dally]

I will never forget the fourth goal in a 4-0 win over Sheff U when we got 
promoted in 1990 - Gary Speed RIP
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Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 5:35 PM
Subject: [LU] LU: Gary Speed Leeds Legend



Shocking re: Gary Speed.

Leeds Legend.

Gutted.

MOT



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Re: [LU] (no subject)

[Paul Dally]

The worst defending I have seen for a long time - we seemed to be a yard off 
the pace throughout the game - absolute garbage.
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To: Nicholas Armit arm...@yahoo.com; Wayne ws.callag...@live.co.uk; 
IanMurray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com; Verner Hanna (Jnr) 
errand.fivef...@talk21.com

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Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [LU] (no subject)



I'd like to give a quick mention to Clayton who I thought did ok today.

O'Brien and Connelly though, wow, they were poor.

Mark K.

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From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] 
On Behalf Of Nicholas Armit

Sent: 06 August 2011 19:22
To: Wayne; Ian Murray; Verner Hanna (Jnr)
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] (no subject)

Yes first game of the season, but that was pretty diabolical. Only players 
who lloked bothered were Howson, Gradel and Kisnorbo. O'Brien was awful.





From: Wayne ws.callag...@live.co.uk
To: Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com; Verner Hanna (Jnr) 
errand.fivef...@talk21.com

Cc: Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [LU] (no subject)

Or maybe its because he's fucking shire at this level
Regards
Wayne

Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote:

That's a player with no confidence - probably due to his treatment from 
his own fans.


Sent from my iPhone

On 6 Aug 2011, at 18:40, Verner Hanna \(Jnr\) 
errand.fivef...@talk21.com wrote:



Good old Billy!

-Original Message-
From: Ian Murray
Sent: 06 August 2011 18:38
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] (no subject)

We're going to be bottom of the fucking league tonight.

Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LU] Palace

[Paul Dally]

for the off side goal, the linesman did flag but very late - I think he 
waited until howson actually touched the ball rather than anyone else.


It wasn't offside though!
- Original Message - 
From: Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk

To: Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 8:02 PM
Subject: [LU] Palace


What a great afternoon – didn’t even seem cold. We deserved the win, no 
doubt
about that but Palace came to win also and troubled us throughout the 90 
mins –

more than they should have.


So when I saw the line up I went ballastic, 4-5-1 with Becchio as the lone
striker. Good God Simon get a grip, we shouldn’t be playing like this 
against a
bottom of the league team at home. Also, with Bradley Johnson holding the 
fort
in central midfield nothings going to happen. This system relies heavily 
on
runners from midfield breaking though because Becchio’s movement his 
limited so
he really doesn’t have much of a role in this system. For 50 minutes we 
huffed
and puffed, played some nice football, created some good chances and made 
lots
of mistakes, missed some real sitters, had a great goal chalked off by the 
ref
(not the linesman) and made some really basic errors which helped Palace 
go in
1-0. It could have easily have been 2 if it hadn’t been for a great 
Schmeichel

save on 45 minutes.


First that ‘off-side’ goal. Great movement and great running from Howson 
saw him
played through. He took the goal brilliantly, took a look at the linesman 
who
had his flag down then slid on his knees and saluted the south stand. The 
ref
then unbelievable cut short the celebrations and pulled back play – we 
were
still dancing in the stands. I always take a glance at the linesman before 
I go
mental and although it did look close the linesman was in the best 
position to
judge whether Howson was off-side and he decided not. Really bad 
officiating.



We continued to create chances and then make mistakes. The best chances 
fell to
Becchio, who lets be honest, should have had 6 today. The worse miss was a 
ball

in to him, He was stood 2 yards from goal but failed to convert – he was
hesitant which is strange because he’s usually full on when he’s in the 6 
yard
box. Becchio was then presented with a free 6 yard box header but he 
tamely
headed on to the bar. Howson and Gradel also missed good chances. Towards 
the
end of the half though we lost our way. Johnson started to detioriate and 
passes
started going astray. Gradel changed wings to try and be more effective , 
but it

just wasn’t working. I watched attack after attack where we neatly played
ourselves up to the edge of the box but nobody was making the runs behind 
their
defence. Becchio in particularly is clueless when it comes to making runs 
like
this and plays most of the game with his back to the goal. He really 
shouldn’t

be the striker if we want to play 4-5-1 at home.


Then there was their goal. Johnson got caught out on the left, he didn’t 
have
the pace to recover leaving their man in. He crossed and converted 1-0. 
They

didn’t deserve it but we really hadn’t played well enough. The system wasn’t
working and Grayson has to change it at the break.


Amazingly he didn’t ! Shocking really. So for another 10 minutes we 
laboured,
same formation same problems. It was beginning to turn into a nightmare 
then
Simon jumped into life. He dragged Johnson and Gradel off and out on 
McCormack
and Sam. Now I’m no fan of Bradley Johnson and as far as I’m concerned he 
can go
now because he’s not good enough for this league never mind the 
premiership
(what a dreamer his agent must be) but he was badly booed when he left the 
field
which I thought was out of order. I’d ask those fans to boo the manager 
for
picking him not Johnson who to his credit is trying his best – it’s just 
that

this is not good enough, never has been.

The subs changed the formation and changed the match. Suddenly we were 
4-4-2
which Kilkenny and Howson central (strange that isn’t it !!???) and a 
winger in
Sam who actually was lively and caused a threat. McCormack was brilliant. 
He was
lively, he made runs, he controlled the ball well, he had a goal 
disallowed and
according to Grayson he got the equaliser (need to see it again). The goal 
was
coming though. Kilkenny had nearly equalised when he brilliantly brought 
the
ball down with his right foot, flicked it on to his left and volleyed from 
25
yards. It was straight at the keeper which was good for him because he 
knew nowt
about it. Then Becchio had another free 6 yard header which was easier to 
score
instead he too put it straight at the keeper. He shook his head, he knew 
he

should have scored.


The equaliser to be honest is a bit of a blur but it looked like a few 
people
tried things and it just seemed to come out to Becchio. He had his back to 
goal
but managed to turn and hit it. Maybe it McCormack on the way on, who 
knows, it

was Becchio’s goal.