Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[Rob Heath]

One tangible result of Cellino's stewardship which I never thought anyone
could achieve...he seems to have revived this moribund
email forum!

On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 4:49 AM, Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net> wrote:

> And took over from Caspian who wouldn't let George graham spend £7m on
> Darren Anderton
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:11, bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> >
> > You only have to look at differing opinions here to know that fan
> ownership is complete whimsy! Do we need reminding that Risible was a fan!
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On 2 Mar 2016, at 17:43, Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> fan ownership !!!??? now that is a joke.
> >>
> >> shall we all copper up and see if we can afford to keep the scoreboard
> on ?
> >>
> >> From: Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com>
> >> To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk
> >> Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2016, 17:22
> >> Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
> >>
> >> I'm sorry, the club is doomed until it's free of the likes of Cellino.
> Have a look at how Cagliari fared with him in charge for a prolonged
> period. We are no nearer stability with him running the club - people come
> , seem OK and then leave or are sacked. I think he is incapable of working
> with anyone.
> >> I saw someone said the football has improved under Evans. Are you
> fucking joking? I can't remember a time we were so consistently poor game
> after game. Loan players or not we have a number of players who don't look
> arsed - most of them have names ending in i!
> >> I think fan ownership is the only way forward.
> >>
> >> Simon
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Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[Matt Anderson]

And took over from Caspian who wouldn't let George graham spend £7m on Darren 
Anderton

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:11, bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> 
> You only have to look at differing opinions here to know that fan ownership 
> is complete whimsy! Do we need reminding that Risible was a fan!
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 17:43, Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> fan ownership !!!??? now that is a joke. 
>> 
>> shall we all copper up and see if we can afford to keep the scoreboard on ? 
>> 
>> From: Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com>
>> To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 
>> Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2016, 17:22
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
>> 
>> I'm sorry, the club is doomed until it's free of the likes of Cellino. Have 
>> a look at how Cagliari fared with him in charge for a prolonged period. We 
>> are no nearer stability with him running the club - people come , seem OK 
>> and then leave or are sacked. I think he is incapable of working with anyone.
>> I saw someone said the football has improved under Evans. Are you fucking 
>> joking? I can't remember a time we were so consistently poor game after 
>> game. Loan players or not we have a number of players who don't look arsed - 
>> most of them have names ending in i!
>> I think fan ownership is the only way forward.
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
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Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

God that was a poorly written email. My apologies.

  From: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
<arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
 To: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>; David Woolmer 
<davidwool...@gmail.com>; "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> 
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 2:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
   
While I am not sure about Cellino In I do think what he said about Evans was 
spot on. He has been banging on aboutt things to all and sudry he should keep 
quiet about. Plus anyone with any sense would be very careful what they and how 
much they say say when employed by Cellino. 

      From: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
 To: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>; "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> 
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 4:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
  
Accept I'm in the minority here but I think Cellino spoke a lot of sense in 
that interview (even if he was half pissed) 
Steve Evans has spent the last 2 weeks basically pleading through the media for 
his job next season and I totally agree with Cellino that he should shut up and 
concentrate on the team and why he continues to lose us games through playing 
Wooton at right back. So I think it was a great decision to stop Evans from 
talking to the media following the defeat and to be honest it worked because 
the last thing us fans wanted to hear was Evans's excuses. It was a bad night 
we have to move on to Bolton to get a result. 
Also, I accept his reasons for leaving at half time. He was embarrassed, I 
would have also considered leaving at half-time. I know people who have met 
Cellino and he really is a supporter of this club. You can choose to believe 
that or not. 
I also liked his statement that fans are better than the team. Obvious but 
completely true ! 

Cellino IN for me. 

      From: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>
 To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> 
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016, 18:54
 Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
  
Struggle to believe anything Cellino says is worth listening. Utter idiot and 
we won't get anywhere until he goes.  Discussing who should be manager whilst 
he is owner is just rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic. 

Surely no-one trusts a word he says by now?

Sorry to be so negative!

> On 1 Mar 2016, at 18:49, "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> wrote:
> 
> Hard to understand but worth a listen
> https://www.facebook.com/LUFC.NEWS.HIGHLIGHTS/videos/984808424922676/
> A good twitter comment by my son - made me chuckle
> Mas won't sack Evans. I can only assume that the "Manager Eater" doesn't have 
> the stomach for a challenge of Man vs Food proportions
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Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[Simon McNally]

I blame all the negativity on social media.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Mar 2016, at 20:23, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
> <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
> This is also Wooton's fault as he can't cross. I also think the midfield lack 
> of creativity is his fault. Not going for crosses is down to him too. 
> 
>  From: Dr Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
> To: - - <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk> 
> Cc: LEEDSLIST <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 9:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
> 
> And creating and scoring goals? We don't do that either. To talk that our
> defence is the Achilles heel is completely wrong. We are a a very poor
> team, badly coached in an ailing club disastrously, in financial ruin
> without a ground or training ground. That's today's Leeds United.
>> On 2 Mar 2016 2:53 p.m., "- -" <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> ...well I wouldn't play Becchio in centre midfield...
>> 
>> someone put some stats up in 2015 about the points the team accumulated
>> with Bellusci in the team and without him (we were measurably better
>> with him)
>> 
>> I do think that Coyle/Berardi at RBack will go a long way to giving
>> balance and restoring some confidence. As mentioned before some of the
>> things Wootton was getting wrong were not a results of being out of
>> position (if we accept that he is a CHalf)...he was doing stuff in the
>> position normally occupied by CHalfs and getting them wrong.
>> 
>> I'm not advocating a witch hunt, that's not the point, the point is
>> that we can see a weak link and there are apparently obvious
>> solutions...all we're saying I think is, this is not working, there is
>> an option, let's at least give it a go.
>> 
>>   On 02 March 2016 at 11:19 Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> wrote:
>>   Not sure the facts agree with your assertion about the defence. We
>>   had a
>>   wobbly 15 mins v B/ton, but prior to that we had conceded 10 goals
>>   in the
>>   preceding 11 games (not sure when Rosler was sacked, but if you cf
>>   the 11
>>   games in Sep & Oct we let in 16.) Maybe the big problem was the
>>   absence of
>>   the much-maligned Bellusci (who Evans has reinstated)?
>>   And I don't pay any attention to this classic internet-age gripe
>>   about
>>   "playing people out of position"..if you're any good at
>>   football, you can play anywhere on the pitch.
>>   On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 6:19 PM, <bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>   I can't even make my mind up about the fat knacker - there' no doubt
>>   we're
>>   playing better football than under Rosler, Hockaday etc, but with
>>   little
>>   creativity, and a centre so soft that we cave in catastrophically
>>   like at
>>   Brighton. There are some very basic defensive issues not being
>>   addressed,
>>   and I don't know if it's because the defenders we've got are
>>   shit/stupid/lazy/uncommitted, or if the manager simply cannot
>>   motivate
>>   them/organise them, or is it elements of all the above? And what is
>>   the
>>   obsession with playing players out of position - Cook, Byron, Coyle,
>>   Wootton, Mowatt?
>>   It's all a massive f*ck-up that's for sure!
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Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

I'm kind of with you Rich (and then kind of not.) Wishy washy eh!

  From: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
 To: "seanscr...@aol.com" <seanscr...@aol.com>; "davidwool...@gmail.com" 
<davidwool...@gmail.com>; "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> 
Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 9:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
   
As I said I'm in the minority , probably of one on this list but what is the 
alternative ?  
I think he's not out to screw the club , he is a supporter of the club, and 
it's his own money. We haven't ever had an owner like that. Plenty of owners 
looking out for themselves and making sure they take their pay from the club. 
Ok he's a bit mad, but compared to GFH and co I'll take him any day. 
Let's see what happens in the Summer ? If the fans haven't turfed him out by 
then. 
      From: "seanscr...@aol.com" <seanscr...@aol.com>
 To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; davidwool...@gmail.com; nat...@sky.com 
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2016, 13:33
 Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
  
Et tu, Rich? You have to be kidding me! The guy is a complete clown and we will 
never be promoted under his ownership. 


-Original Message-
From: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
To: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>; nattan <nat...@sky.com>
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Wed, Mar 2, 2016 4:37 am
Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

Accept I'm in the minority here but I think Cellino spoke a lot of sense in 
that interview (even if he was half pissed) Steve Evans has spent the last 2 
weeks basically pleading through the media for his job next season and I 
totally agree with Cellino that he should shut up and concentrate on the team 
and why he continues to lose us games through playing Wooton at right back. So 
I think it was a great decision to stop Evans from talking to the media 
following the defeat and to be honest it worked because the last thing us fans 
wanted to hear was Evans's excuses. It was a bad night we have to move on to 
Bolton to get a result. Also, I accept his reasons for leaving at half time. He 
was embarrassed, I would have also considered leaving at half-time. I know 
people who have met Cellino and he really is a supporter of this club. You can 
choose to believe that or not. I also liked his statement that fans are better 
than the team. Obvious but completely true ! Cellino IN for me.  From: David 
Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com> To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> Cc: 
Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org> Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016, 18:54 Subject: 
Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link Struggle to believe anything Cellino 
says is worth listening. Utter idiot and we won't get anywhere until he goes.  
Discussing who should be manager whilst he is owner is just rearranging 
deckchairs on the Titanic. Surely no-one trusts a word he says by now?Sorry to 
be so negative!> On 1 Mar 2016, at 18:49, "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> 
wrote:> > Hard to understand but worth a listen> 
https://www.facebook.com/LUFC.NEWS.HIGHLIGHTS/videos/984808424922676/> A good 
twitter comment by my son - made me chuckle> Mas won't sack Evans. I can only 
assume that the "Manager Eater" doesn't have the stomach for a challenge of Man 
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Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

This is also Wooton's fault as he can't cross. I also think the midfield lack 
of creativity is his fault. Not going for crosses is down to him too. 

  From: Dr Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
 To: - - <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk> 
Cc: LEEDSLIST <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 9:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
   
And creating and scoring goals? We don't do that either. To talk that our
defence is the Achilles heel is completely wrong. We are a a very poor
team, badly coached in an ailing club disastrously, in financial ruin
without a ground or training ground. That's today's Leeds United.
On 2 Mar 2016 2:53 p.m., "- -" <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk> wrote:

>    ...well I wouldn't play Becchio in centre midfield...
>
>    someone put some stats up in 2015 about the points the team accumulated
>    with Bellusci in the team and without him (we were measurably better
>    with him)
>
>    I do think that Coyle/Berardi at RBack will go a long way to giving
>    balance and restoring some confidence. As mentioned before some of the
>    things Wootton was getting wrong were not a results of being out of
>    position (if we accept that he is a CHalf)...he was doing stuff in the
>    position normally occupied by CHalfs and getting them wrong.
>
>    I'm not advocating a witch hunt, that's not the point, the point is
>    that we can see a weak link and there are apparently obvious
>    solutions...all we're saying I think is, this is not working, there is
>    an option, let's at least give it a go.
>
>      On 02 March 2016 at 11:19 Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> wrote:
>      Not sure the facts agree with your assertion about the defence. We
>      had a
>      wobbly 15 mins v B/ton, but prior to that we had conceded 10 goals
>      in the
>      preceding 11 games (not sure when Rosler was sacked, but if you cf
>      the 11
>      games in Sep & Oct we let in 16.) Maybe the big problem was the
>      absence of
>      the much-maligned Bellusci (who Evans has reinstated)?
>      And I don't pay any attention to this classic internet-age gripe
>      about
>      "playing people out of position"..if you're any good at
>      football, you can play anywhere on the pitch.
>      On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 6:19 PM, <bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>      I can't even make my mind up about the fat knacker - there' no doubt
>      we're
>      playing better football than under Rosler, Hockaday etc, but with
>      little
>      creativity, and a centre so soft that we cave in catastrophically
>      like at
>      Brighton. There are some very basic defensive issues not being
>      addressed,
>      and I don't know if it's because the defenders we've got are
>      shit/stupid/lazy/uncommitted, or if the manager simply cannot
>      motivate
>      them/organise them, or is it elements of all the above? And what is
>      the
>      obsession with playing players out of position - Cook, Byron, Coyle,
>      Wootton, Mowatt?
>      It's all a massive f*ck-up that's for sure!
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[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

While I am not sure about Cellino In I do think what he said about Evans was 
spot on. He has been banging on aboutt things to all and sudry he should keep 
quiet about. Plus anyone with any sense would be very careful what they and how 
much they say say when employed by Cellino. 

  From: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
 To: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>; "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> 
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 4:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
   
Accept I'm in the minority here but I think Cellino spoke a lot of sense in 
that interview (even if he was half pissed) 
Steve Evans has spent the last 2 weeks basically pleading through the media for 
his job next season and I totally agree with Cellino that he should shut up and 
concentrate on the team and why he continues to lose us games through playing 
Wooton at right back. So I think it was a great decision to stop Evans from 
talking to the media following the defeat and to be honest it worked because 
the last thing us fans wanted to hear was Evans's excuses. It was a bad night 
we have to move on to Bolton to get a result. 
Also, I accept his reasons for leaving at half time. He was embarrassed, I 
would have also considered leaving at half-time. I know people who have met 
Cellino and he really is a supporter of this club. You can choose to believe 
that or not. 
I also liked his statement that fans are better than the team. Obvious but 
completely true ! 

Cellino IN for me. 

      From: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>
 To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> 
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016, 18:54
 Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
  
Struggle to believe anything Cellino says is worth listening. Utter idiot and 
we won't get anywhere until he goes.  Discussing who should be manager whilst 
he is owner is just rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic. 

Surely no-one trusts a word he says by now?

Sorry to be so negative!

> On 1 Mar 2016, at 18:49, "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> wrote:
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> https://www.facebook.com/LUFC.NEWS.HIGHLIGHTS/videos/984808424922676/
> A good twitter comment by my son - made me chuckle
> Mas won't sack Evans. I can only assume that the "Manager Eater" doesn't have 
> the stomach for a challenge of Man vs Food proportions
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Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[bruvvaleeluv]

Maybe we will never know the full story behind Bates, gfh, and all the ground 
ownership/training ground mallarkey. 

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> On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:22, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
> 
> I think you're right. The finances are so murky - rumours of debts to gfh etc 
> mean that you would be very foolish to rush in and buy (like Cellino did!)
> 
> Simon 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:20, bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>> 
>> My gut feel is that the fans group consortium didn't have enough cash, hence 
>> the ongoing search for more backers at the time. I have absolutely no idea 
>> how much money Cellino has got either, but given he's deferred any decision 
>> to sell and even if he is persuaded to sell, I'm of the view any fans bid 
>> would be so suspicious of every hidden debt that they couldn't pull it off. 
>> I certainly wouldn't put a penny into it, because it is a bottomless pit of 
>> debt and I wonder if complete bankruptcy is the only thing that will enable 
>> the slate to be wiped clean?  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:13, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You know that how?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:12, Richard walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I don't believe they had.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:01, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I disagree. You're the one who would take Cellino because there's no 
>>>>> alternative - that is a joke. There is an alternative , the fans group 
>>>>> had the funds. Fan ownership has worked all over the world - Swansea seem 
>>>>> to have done ok with it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 17:43, Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> fan ownership !!!??? now that is a joke. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> shall we all copper up and see if we can afford to keep the scoreboard 
>>>>>> on ? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com>
>>>>>> To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 
>>>>>> Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2016, 17:22
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm sorry, the club is doomed until it's free of the likes of Cellino. 
>>>>>> Have a look at how Cagliari fared with him in charge for a prolonged 
>>>>>> period. We are no nearer stability with him running the club - people 
>>>>>> come , seem OK and then leave or are sacked. I think he is incapable of 
>>>>>> working with anyone.
>>>>>> I saw someone said the football has improved under Evans. Are you 
>>>>>> fucking joking? I can't remember a time we were so consistently poor 
>>>>>> game after game. Loan players or not we have a number of players who 
>>>>>> don't look arsed - most of them have names ending in i!
>>>>>> I think fan ownership is the only way forward.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>> 
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Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[Simon McNally]

I think you're right. The finances are so murky - rumours of debts to gfh etc 
mean that you would be very foolish to rush in and buy (like Cellino did!)

Simon 

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> On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:20, bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> 
> My gut feel is that the fans group consortium didn't have enough cash, hence 
> the ongoing search for more backers at the time. I have absolutely no idea 
> how much money Cellino has got either, but given he's deferred any decision 
> to sell and even if he is persuaded to sell, I'm of the view any fans bid 
> would be so suspicious of every hidden debt that they couldn't pull it off. I 
> certainly wouldn't put a penny into it, because it is a bottomless pit of 
> debt and I wonder if complete bankruptcy is the only thing that will enable 
> the slate to be wiped clean?  
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:13, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>> 
>> You know that how?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:12, Richard walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't believe they had.
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:01, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I disagree. You're the one who would take Cellino because there's no 
>>>> alternative - that is a joke. There is an alternative , the fans group had 
>>>> the funds. Fan ownership has worked all over the world - Swansea seem to 
>>>> have done ok with it.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 17:43, Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> fan ownership !!!??? now that is a joke. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> shall we all copper up and see if we can afford to keep the scoreboard on 
>>>>> ? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com>
>>>>> To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 
>>>>> Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2016, 17:22
>>>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm sorry, the club is doomed until it's free of the likes of Cellino. 
>>>>> Have a look at how Cagliari fared with him in charge for a prolonged 
>>>>> period. We are no nearer stability with him running the club - people 
>>>>> come , seem OK and then leave or are sacked. I think he is incapable of 
>>>>> working with anyone.
>>>>> I saw someone said the football has improved under Evans. Are you fucking 
>>>>> joking? I can't remember a time we were so consistently poor game after 
>>>>> game. Loan players or not we have a number of players who don't look 
>>>>> arsed - most of them have names ending in i!
>>>>> I think fan ownership is the only way forward.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Simon
>>>>> 
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Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[bruvvaleeluv]

My gut feel is that the fans group consortium didn't have enough cash, hence 
the ongoing search for more backers at the time. I have absolutely no idea how 
much money Cellino has got either, but given he's deferred any decision to sell 
and even if he is persuaded to sell, I'm of the view any fans bid would be so 
suspicious of every hidden debt that they couldn't pull it off. I certainly 
wouldn't put a penny into it, because it is a bottomless pit of debt and I 
wonder if complete bankruptcy is the only thing that will enable the slate to 
be wiped clean?  

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> On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:13, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
> 
> You know that how?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:12, Richard walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't believe they had.
>> 
>>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:01, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I disagree. You're the one who would take Cellino because there's no 
>>> alternative - that is a joke. There is an alternative , the fans group had 
>>> the funds. Fan ownership has worked all over the world - Swansea seem to 
>>> have done ok with it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 17:43, Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> fan ownership !!!??? now that is a joke. 
>>>> 
>>>> shall we all copper up and see if we can afford to keep the scoreboard on 
>>>> ? 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com>
>>>> To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 
>>>> Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2016, 17:22
>>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
>>>> 
>>>> I'm sorry, the club is doomed until it's free of the likes of Cellino. 
>>>> Have a look at how Cagliari fared with him in charge for a prolonged 
>>>> period. We are no nearer stability with him running the club - people come 
>>>> , seem OK and then leave or are sacked. I think he is incapable of working 
>>>> with anyone.
>>>> I saw someone said the football has improved under Evans. Are you fucking 
>>>> joking? I can't remember a time we were so consistently poor game after 
>>>> game. Loan players or not we have a number of players who don't look arsed 
>>>> - most of them have names ending in i!
>>>> I think fan ownership is the only way forward.
>>>> 
>>>> Simon
>>>> 
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Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[Richard walker]

Yep good point. 

> On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:17, "Rick Duniec \(@ntl\)"  wrote:
> 
> Can we all hold fire on the financial stability front until we actually see 
> the published accounts. Only a few days to wait at most. Then we will have 
> some idea.
> 
> p.s.good luck to Leeds Ladies in their cup semi final at Woodlesford tonight 
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Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[Simon McNally]

I guess I don't know either but I would've liked to see them try. I don't think 
Cellino is capable of building anything but instability and discord.
I hear his latest court case in Italy has been adjourned until May.

Simon

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> On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:15, Richard walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I don't. I just don't believe a group of Leeds fans have the financial clout 
> to buy and fund the club to promotion.
> 
>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:13, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>> 
>> You know that how?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:12, Richard walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't believe they had.
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:01, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I disagree. You're the one who would take Cellino because there's no 
>>>> alternative - that is a joke. There is an alternative , the fans group had 
>>>> the funds. Fan ownership has worked all over the world - Swansea seem to 
>>>> have done ok with it.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 17:43, Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> fan ownership !!!??? now that is a joke. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> shall we all copper up and see if we can afford to keep the scoreboard on 
>>>>> ? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com>
>>>>> To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 
>>>>> Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2016, 17:22
>>>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm sorry, the club is doomed until it's free of the likes of Cellino. 
>>>>> Have a look at how Cagliari fared with him in charge for a prolonged 
>>>>> period. We are no nearer stability with him running the club - people 
>>>>> come , seem OK and then leave or are sacked. I think he is incapable of 
>>>>> working with anyone.
>>>>> I saw someone said the football has improved under Evans. Are you fucking 
>>>>> joking? I can't remember a time we were so consistently poor game after 
>>>>> game. Loan players or not we have a number of players who don't look 
>>>>> arsed - most of them have names ending in i!
>>>>> I think fan ownership is the only way forward.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Simon
>>>>> 
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Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[Richard walker]

I don't. I just don't believe a group of Leeds fans have the financial clout to 
buy and fund the club to promotion.

> On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:13, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
> 
> You know that how?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:12, Richard walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't believe they had.
>> 
>>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:01, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I disagree. You're the one who would take Cellino because there's no 
>>> alternative - that is a joke. There is an alternative , the fans group had 
>>> the funds. Fan ownership has worked all over the world - Swansea seem to 
>>> have done ok with it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 17:43, Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> fan ownership !!!??? now that is a joke. 
>>>> 
>>>> shall we all copper up and see if we can afford to keep the scoreboard on 
>>>> ? 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com>
>>>> To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 
>>>> Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2016, 17:22
>>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
>>>> 
>>>> I'm sorry, the club is doomed until it's free of the likes of Cellino. 
>>>> Have a look at how Cagliari fared with him in charge for a prolonged 
>>>> period. We are no nearer stability with him running the club - people come 
>>>> , seem OK and then leave or are sacked. I think he is incapable of working 
>>>> with anyone.
>>>> I saw someone said the football has improved under Evans. Are you fucking 
>>>> joking? I can't remember a time we were so consistently poor game after 
>>>> game. Loan players or not we have a number of players who don't look arsed 
>>>> - most of them have names ending in i!
>>>> I think fan ownership is the only way forward.
>>>> 
>>>> Simon
>>>> 
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Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[Simon McNally]

You know that how?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:12, Richard walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I don't believe they had.
> 
>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:01, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I disagree. You're the one who would take Cellino because there's no 
>> alternative - that is a joke. There is an alternative , the fans group had 
>> the funds. Fan ownership has worked all over the world - Swansea seem to 
>> have done ok with it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 17:43, Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> fan ownership !!!??? now that is a joke. 
>>> 
>>> shall we all copper up and see if we can afford to keep the scoreboard on ? 
>>> 
>>> From: Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com>
>>> To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 
>>> Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2016, 17:22
>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
>>> 
>>> I'm sorry, the club is doomed until it's free of the likes of Cellino. Have 
>>> a look at how Cagliari fared with him in charge for a prolonged period. We 
>>> are no nearer stability with him running the club - people come , seem OK 
>>> and then leave or are sacked. I think he is incapable of working with 
>>> anyone.
>>> I saw someone said the football has improved under Evans. Are you fucking 
>>> joking? I can't remember a time we were so consistently poor game after 
>>> game. Loan players or not we have a number of players who don't look arsed 
>>> - most of them have names ending in i!
>>> I think fan ownership is the only way forward.
>>> 
>>> Simon
>>> 
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Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[Simon McNally]

I'm still not convinced. I watch the games now and I honestly cannot see where 
a goal is going to come from. Possession is often high but the majority of it 
is the back four and silvestri passing it to each other. 
Can't say I'm looking forward to the game on Saturday!

Simon 

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> On 2 Mar 2016, at 18:10, bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> 
> I think it was probably me Simon who said that by passing the ball to each 
> other, for example, the football was better. Certainly better than Hockaday 
> and Rosler era. Even against Brighton, which was a shambles, we had 52% 
> possession - we had quite a few chances, albeit naff all on target, etc. 
> Compared with the Hockaday period you have to say it's better now, even 
> though we are mainly toothless, are rubbish in defence, and seem to have no 
> passion most of the time - under Hockaday we simply couldn't pass, no matter 
> how many shifts they put in! 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 17:22, Simon McNally  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm sorry, the club is doomed until it's free of the likes of Cellino. Have 
>> a look at how Cagliari fared with him in charge for a prolonged period. We 
>> are no nearer stability with him running the club - people come , seem OK 
>> and then leave or are sacked. I think he is incapable of working with anyone.
>> I saw someone said the football has improved under Evans. Are you fucking 
>> joking? I can't remember a time we were so consistently poor game after 
>> game. Loan players or not we have a number of players who don't look arsed - 
>> most of them have names ending in i!
>> I think fan ownership is the only way forward.
>> 
>> Simon
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[bruvvaleeluv]

You only have to look at differing opinions here to know that fan ownership is 
complete whimsy! Do we need reminding that Risible was a fan!

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> On 2 Mar 2016, at 17:43, Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> fan ownership !!!??? now that is a joke. 
> 
> shall we all copper up and see if we can afford to keep the scoreboard on ? 
> 
> From: Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com>
> To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 
> Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2016, 17:22
> Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
> 
> I'm sorry, the club is doomed until it's free of the likes of Cellino. Have a 
> look at how Cagliari fared with him in charge for a prolonged period. We are 
> no nearer stability with him running the club - people come , seem OK and 
> then leave or are sacked. I think he is incapable of working with anyone.
> I saw someone said the football has improved under Evans. Are you fucking 
> joking? I can't remember a time we were so consistently poor game after game. 
> Loan players or not we have a number of players who don't look arsed - most 
> of them have names ending in i!
> I think fan ownership is the only way forward.
> 
> Simon
> 
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Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[bruvvaleeluv]

I think it was probably me Simon who said that by passing the ball to each 
other, for example, the football was better. Certainly better than Hockaday and 
Rosler era. Even against Brighton, which was a shambles, we had 52% possession 
- we had quite a few chances, albeit naff all on target, etc. Compared with the 
Hockaday period you have to say it's better now, even though we are mainly 
toothless, are rubbish in defence, and seem to have no passion most of the time 
- under Hockaday we simply couldn't pass, no matter how many shifts they put 
in! 



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> On 2 Mar 2016, at 17:22, Simon McNally  wrote:
> 
> I'm sorry, the club is doomed until it's free of the likes of Cellino. Have a 
> look at how Cagliari fared with him in charge for a prolonged period. We are 
> no nearer stability with him running the club - people come , seem OK and 
> then leave or are sacked. I think he is incapable of working with anyone.
> I saw someone said the football has improved under Evans. Are you fucking 
> joking? I can't remember a time we were so consistently poor game after game. 
> Loan players or not we have a number of players who don't look arsed - most 
> of them have names ending in i!
> I think fan ownership is the only way forward.
> 
> Simon
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Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[Dr Michael Benjamin]

We are not mid table and not guaranteed a relegation fight.
We are not financially stable. GFH is still there. We have debts over 40
Million pounds at least...without a ground or training ground. We are no
bringing in anyone. We should have bit didn't.
Rich, the guy is a walking disaster.
Michael
On 2 Mar 2016 7:12 p.m., "Richard Walker" <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> you could argue that this season has created stability - mid table and
> clear from the bottom 3, clubs financial position is stable and we're
> refusing to bring in any loanees that can't be converted into permanent
> signings (remember Townsend, Wickham, Barkley who were all good players who
> didn't make an impact because ultimately they couldn't give a toss).
>
>
> --
> *From:* Dr Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
> *To:* Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
> *Cc:* "seanscr...@aol.com" <seanscr...@aol.com>; "davidwool...@gmail.com"
> <davidwool...@gmail.com>; "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>; "
> leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 2 March 2016, 16:56
> *Subject:* Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
>
> What his intentions are - are quite irrelevant.
> He is no supporter of the club. He bought in Evans and is the root cause
> of his fears. He has no right to criticise anyone on or off-record.  Of
> course we are better than the club- that is stating the obvious - but
> thanks to who? We don't need a historian oor chronicler. Sanity and
> stability would be nice and the ant-thesis anything Cellino will provide.
>
>
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> Community Psychiatrist
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>
> On 2 March 2016 at 16:37, Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> As I said I'm in the minority , probably of one on this list but what is
> the alternative ?
> I think he's not out to screw the club , he is a supporter of the club,
> and it's his own money. We haven't ever had an owner like that. Plenty of
> owners looking out for themselves and making sure they take their pay from
> the club.
> Ok he's a bit mad, but compared to GFH and co I'll take him any day.
> Let's see what happens in the Summer ? If the fans haven't turfed him out
> by then.
>   From: "seanscr...@aol.com" <seanscr...@aol.com>
>  To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; davidwool...@gmail.com; nat...@sky.com
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
>  Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2016, 13:33
>  Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
>
> Et tu, Rich? You have to be kidding me! The guy is a complete clown and we
> will never be promoted under his ownership.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
> To: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>; nattan <nat...@sky.com>
> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Wed, Mar 2, 2016 4:37 am
> Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
>
> Accept I'm in the minority here but I think Cellino spoke a lot of sense
> in that interview (even if he was half pissed) Steve Evans has spent the
> last 2 weeks basically pleading through the media for his job next season
> and I totally agree with Cellino that he should shut up and concentrate on
> the team and why he continues to lose us games through playing Wooton at
> right back. So I think it was a great decision to stop Evans from talking
> to the media following the defeat and to be honest it worked because the
> last thing us fans wanted to hear was Evans's excuses. It was a bad night
> we have to move on to Bolton to get a result. Also, I accept his reasons
> for leaving at half time. He was embarrassed, I would have also considered
> leaving at half-time. I know people who have m

Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[Simon McNally]

I disagree. You're the one who would take Cellino because there's no 
alternative - that is a joke. There is an alternative , the fans group had the 
funds. Fan ownership has worked all over the world - Swansea seem to have done 
ok with it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Mar 2016, at 17:43, Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> fan ownership !!!??? now that is a joke. 
> 
> shall we all copper up and see if we can afford to keep the scoreboard on ? 
> 
> From: Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com>
> To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 
> Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2016, 17:22
> Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
> 
> I'm sorry, the club is doomed until it's free of the likes of Cellino. Have a 
> look at how Cagliari fared with him in charge for a prolonged period. We are 
> no nearer stability with him running the club - people come , seem OK and 
> then leave or are sacked. I think he is incapable of working with anyone.
> I saw someone said the football has improved under Evans. Are you fucking 
> joking? I can't remember a time we were so consistently poor game after game. 
> Loan players or not we have a number of players who don't look arsed - most 
> of them have names ending in i!
> I think fan ownership is the only way forward.
> 
> Simon
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Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[Richard Walker]

fan ownership !!!??? now that is a joke. 
shall we all copper up and see if we can afford to keep the scoreboard on ? 
  From: Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com>
 To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2016, 17:22
 Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
   
I'm sorry, the club is doomed until it's free of the likes of Cellino. Have a 
look at how Cagliari fared with him in charge for a prolonged period. We are no 
nearer stability with him running the club - people come , seem OK and then 
leave or are sacked. I think he is incapable of working with anyone.
I saw someone said the football has improved under Evans. Are you fucking 
joking? I can't remember a time we were so consistently poor game after game. 
Loan players or not we have a number of players who don't look arsed - most of 
them have names ending in i!
I think fan ownership is the only way forward.

Simon 
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Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[Simon McNally]

I'm sorry, the club is doomed until it's free of the likes of Cellino. Have a 
look at how Cagliari fared with him in charge for a prolonged period. We are no 
nearer stability with him running the club - people come , seem OK and then 
leave or are sacked. I think he is incapable of working with anyone.
I saw someone said the football has improved under Evans. Are you fucking 
joking? I can't remember a time we were so consistently poor game after game. 
Loan players or not we have a number of players who don't look arsed - most of 
them have names ending in i!
I think fan ownership is the only way forward.

Simon 
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Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[bruvvaleeluv]

What?? I'd say his intentions are pretty relevant - does he want glory, as I 
hope he does, or is he looking for paydirt? Of course, if glory comes then 
selling will be much more profitable. 

Sent from my iPad

> On 2 Mar 2016, at 16:56, Dr Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:
> 
> What his intentions are - are quite irrelevant.
> He is no supporter of the club. He bought in Evans and is the root cause of
> his fears. He has no right to criticise anyone on or off-record.  Of course
> we are better than the club- that is stating the obvious - but thanks to
> who? We don't need a historian oor chronicler. Sanity and stability would
> be nice and the ant-thesis anything Cellino will provide.
> 
> 
> Dr Michael Benjamin,
> Community Psychiatrist
> ​0505317772
> -
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> -
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> 
>> On 2 March 2016 at 16:37, Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> As I said I'm in the minority , probably of one on this list but what is
>> the alternative ?
>> I think he's not out to screw the club , he is a supporter of the club,
>> and it's his own money. We haven't ever had an owner like that. Plenty of
>> owners looking out for themselves and making sure they take their pay from
>> the club.
>> Ok he's a bit mad, but compared to GFH and co I'll take him any day.
>> Let's see what happens in the Summer ? If the fans haven't turfed him out
>> by then.
>>      From: "seanscr...@aol.com" <seanscr...@aol.com>
>> To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; davidwool...@gmail.com; nat...@sky.com
>> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2016, 13:33
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
>> 
>> Et tu, Rich? You have to be kidding me! The guy is a complete clown and we
>> will never be promoted under his ownership.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
>> To: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>; nattan <nat...@sky.com>
>> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>> Sent: Wed, Mar 2, 2016 4:37 am
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
>> 
>> Accept I'm in the minority here but I think Cellino spoke a lot of sense
>> in that interview (even if he was half pissed) Steve Evans has spent the
>> last 2 weeks basically pleading through the media for his job next season
>> and I totally agree with Cellino that he should shut up and concentrate on
>> the team and why he continues to lose us games through playing Wooton at
>> right back. So I think it was a great decision to stop Evans from talking
>> to the media following the defeat and to be honest it worked because the
>> last thing us fans wanted to hear was Evans's excuses. It was a bad night
>> we have to move on to Bolton to get a result. Also, I accept his reasons
>> for leaving at half time. He was embarrassed, I would have also considered
>> leaving at half-time. I know people who have met Cellino and he really is a
>> supporter of this club. You can choose to believe that or not. I also liked
>> his statement that fans are better than the team. Obvious but completely
>> true ! Cellino IN for me.  From: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>
>> To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016, 18:54 Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky
>> - link Struggle to believe anything Cellino says is worth listening. Utter
>> idiot and we won't get anywhere until he goes.  Discussing who should be
>> manager whilst he is owner is just rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic.
>> Surely no-one trusts a word he says by now?Sorry to be so negative!> On 1
>> Mar 2016, at 18:49, &quo

Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[Richard Walker]

you could argue that this season has created stability - mid table and clear 
from the bottom 3, clubs financial position is stable and we're refusing to 
bring in any loanees that can't be converted into permanent signings (remember 
Townsend, Wickham, Barkley who were all good players who didn't make an impact 
because ultimately they couldn't give a toss). 

  From: Dr Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
 To: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> 
Cc: "seanscr...@aol.com" <seanscr...@aol.com>; "davidwool...@gmail.com" 
<davidwool...@gmail.com>; "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>; 
"leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2016, 16:56
 Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
   
What his intentions are - are quite irrelevant. 
He is no supporter of the club. He bought in Evans and is the root cause of his 
fears. He has no right to criticise anyone on or off-record.  Of course we are 
better than the club- that is stating the obvious - but thanks to who? We don't 
need a historian oor chronicler. Sanity and stability would be nice and the 
ant-thesis anything Cellino will provide.

Dr Michael Benjamin,
Community Psychiatrist
​0505317772-
Oranit || Crossed Lines Amazon -
​Blog:
​http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/author/michael-benjamin/
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On 2 March 2016 at 16:37, Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

As I said I'm in the minority , probably of one on this list but what is the 
alternative ?  
I think he's not out to screw the club , he is a supporter of the club, and 
it's his own money. We haven't ever had an owner like that. Plenty of owners 
looking out for themselves and making sure they take their pay from the club. 
Ok he's a bit mad, but compared to GFH and co I'll take him any day. 
Let's see what happens in the Summer ? If the fans haven't turfed him out by 
then. 
      From: "seanscr...@aol.com" <seanscr...@aol.com>
 To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; davidwool...@gmail.com; nat...@sky.com
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2016, 13:33
 Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

Et tu, Rich? You have to be kidding me! The guy is a complete clown and we will 
never be promoted under his ownership. 


-Original Message-
From: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
To: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>; nattan <nat...@sky.com>
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Wed, Mar 2, 2016 4:37 am
Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

Accept I'm in the minority here but I think Cellino spoke a lot of sense in 
that interview (even if he was half pissed) Steve Evans has spent the last 2 
weeks basically pleading through the media for his job next season and I 
totally agree with Cellino that he should shut up and concentrate on the team 
and why he continues to lose us games through playing Wooton at right back. So 
I think it was a great decision to stop Evans from talking to the media 
following the defeat and to be honest it worked because the last thing us fans 
wanted to hear was Evans's excuses. It was a bad night we have to move on to 
Bolton to get a result. Also, I accept his reasons for leaving at half time. He 
was embarrassed, I would have also considered leaving at half-time. I know 
people who have met Cellino and he really is a supporter of this club. You can 
choose to believe that or not. I also liked his statement that fans are better 
than the team. Obvious but completely true ! Cellino IN for me.  From: David 
Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com> To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> Cc: 
Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org> Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016, 18:54 Subject: 
Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link Struggle to believe anything Cellino 
says is worth listening. Utter idiot and we won't get anywhere until he goes.  
Discussing who should be manager whilst he is owner is just rearranging 
deckchairs on the Titanic. Surely no-one trusts a word he says by now?Sorry to 
be so negative!> On 1 Mar 2016, at 18:49, "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> 
wrote:> > Hard to understand but worth a listen> 
https://www.facebook.com/LUFC.NEWS.HIGHLIGHTS/videos/984808424922676/> A good 
twitter comment by my son - made me chuckle> Mas won't sack Evans. I can only 
assume that the "Manager Eater" doesn't have the stomach for a challenge of Man 
vs Food proportions> 

Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[Dr Michael Benjamin]

What his intentions are - are quite irrelevant.
He is no supporter of the club. He bought in Evans and is the root cause of
his fears. He has no right to criticise anyone on or off-record.  Of course
we are better than the club- that is stating the obvious - but thanks to
who? We don't need a historian oor chronicler. Sanity and stability would
be nice and the ant-thesis anything Cellino will provide.


Dr Michael Benjamin,
Community Psychiatrist
​0505317772
-
Oranit || Crossed Lines Amazon
<http://www.amazon.com/Oranit-Crossed-Lines-Malcolm-Green-ebook/dp/B00WR7WCRS/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?_encoding=UTF8==>
-
​
Blog:
​
<http://www.drmichaelbenjamin.com/>
*http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/author/michael-benjamin/
<http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/author/michael-benjamin/>*
-
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http://www.myRay.org <http://www.myray.org/>
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On 2 March 2016 at 16:37, Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> As I said I'm in the minority , probably of one on this list but what is
> the alternative ?
> I think he's not out to screw the club , he is a supporter of the club,
> and it's his own money. We haven't ever had an owner like that. Plenty of
> owners looking out for themselves and making sure they take their pay from
> the club.
> Ok he's a bit mad, but compared to GFH and co I'll take him any day.
> Let's see what happens in the Summer ? If the fans haven't turfed him out
> by then.
>   From: "seanscr...@aol.com" <seanscr...@aol.com>
>  To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; davidwool...@gmail.com; nat...@sky.com
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
>  Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2016, 13:33
>  Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
>
> Et tu, Rich? You have to be kidding me! The guy is a complete clown and we
> will never be promoted under his ownership.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
> To: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>; nattan <nat...@sky.com>
> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Wed, Mar 2, 2016 4:37 am
> Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
>
> Accept I'm in the minority here but I think Cellino spoke a lot of sense
> in that interview (even if he was half pissed) Steve Evans has spent the
> last 2 weeks basically pleading through the media for his job next season
> and I totally agree with Cellino that he should shut up and concentrate on
> the team and why he continues to lose us games through playing Wooton at
> right back. So I think it was a great decision to stop Evans from talking
> to the media following the defeat and to be honest it worked because the
> last thing us fans wanted to hear was Evans's excuses. It was a bad night
> we have to move on to Bolton to get a result. Also, I accept his reasons
> for leaving at half time. He was embarrassed, I would have also considered
> leaving at half-time. I know people who have met Cellino and he really is a
> supporter of this club. You can choose to believe that or not. I also liked
> his statement that fans are better than the team. Obvious but completely
> true ! Cellino IN for me.  From: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>
> To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016, 18:54 Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky
> - link Struggle to believe anything Cellino says is worth listening. Utter
> idiot and we won't get anywhere until he goes.  Discussing who should be
> manager whilst he is owner is just rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic.
> Surely no-one trusts a word he says by now?Sorry to be so negative!> On 1
> Mar 2016, at 18:49, "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> wrote:> > Hard to
> understand but worth a listen>
> https://www.facebook.com/LUFC.NEWS.HIGHLIGHTS/videos/984808424922676/> A
> good twitter comment by my son - made me chuckle> Mas won't sack Evans. I
> can only assume that the "Manager Eater" doesn't have the stomach for a
> challenge of Man vs Food proportions>
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Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[Richard Walker]

Yes I think the appointment of Pearson showed us that he realises he needs help 
however more worryingly I wonder if Pearson went because he couldn't work with 
Cellino ? and maybe this may be the main issue with him and if that is true 
then I do accept that he will struggle to run the club. 

  From: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>
 To: Damian Walsh <pussaydam...@gmail.com> 
Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2016, 15:40
 Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
   
Agreed! That's why i was  happy when Pearson came back. If he could be 
controlled mentored and advised it would be fine. 

But he is mad irrational acts without thinking and most worrying lot of all due 
for a ban

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Mar 2016, at 15:04, Damian Walsh <pussaydam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Not that my opinion has any weight or validity at all, but I tend to agree
> with Rich about Cellino. Though I might want him to be "better" I know we
> can have, and have had, a lot worse;
> 
> Damian
> 
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
> 
>> As I said I'm in the minority , probably of one on this list but what is
>> the alternative ?
>> I think he's not out to screw the club , he is a supporter of the club,
>> and it's his own money. We haven't ever had an owner like that. Plenty of
>> owners looking out for themselves and making sure they take their pay from
>> the club.
>> Ok he's a bit mad, but compared to GFH and co I'll take him any day.
>> Let's see what happens in the Summer ? If the fans haven't turfed him out
>> by then.
>>      From: "seanscr...@aol.com" <seanscr...@aol.com>
>> To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; davidwool...@gmail.com; nat...@sky.com
>> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2016, 13:33
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
>> 
>> Et tu, Rich? You have to be kidding me! The guy is a complete clown and we
>> will never be promoted under his ownership.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
>> To: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>; nattan <nat...@sky.com>
>> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>> Sent: Wed, Mar 2, 2016 4:37 am
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
>> 
>> Accept I'm in the minority here but I think Cellino spoke a lot of sense
>> in that interview (even if he was half pissed) Steve Evans has spent the
>> last 2 weeks basically pleading through the media for his job next season
>> and I totally agree with Cellino that he should shut up and concentrate on
>> the team and why he continues to lose us games through playing Wooton at
>> right back. So I think it was a great decision to stop Evans from talking
>> to the media following the defeat and to be honest it worked because the
>> last thing us fans wanted to hear was Evans's excuses. It was a bad night
>> we have to move on to Bolton to get a result. Also, I accept his reasons
>> for leaving at half time. He was embarrassed, I would have also considered
>> leaving at half-time. I know people who have met Cellino and he really is a
>> supporter of this club. You can choose to believe that or not. I also liked
>> his statement that fans are better than the team. Obvious but completely
>> true ! Cellino IN for me.  From: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>
>> To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016, 18:54 Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky
>> - link Struggle to believe anything Cellino says is worth listening. Utter
>> idiot and we won't get anywhere until he goes.  Discussing who should be
>> manager whilst he is owner is just rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic.
>> Surely no-one trusts a word he says by now?Sorry to be so negative!> On 1
>> Mar 2016, at 18:49, "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> wrote:> > Hard to
>> understand but worth a listen>
>> https://www.facebook.com/LUFC.NEWS.HIGHLIGHTS/videos/984808424922676/> A
>> good twitter comment by my son - made me chuckle> Mas won't sack Evans. I
>> can only assume that the "Manager Eater" doesn't have the stomach for a
>> challenge of Man vs Food proportions>
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Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[Matt Anderson]

Agreed! That's why i was  happy when Pearson came back. If he could be 
controlled mentored and advised it would be fine. 

But he is mad irrational acts without thinking and most worrying lot of all due 
for a ban

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Mar 2016, at 15:04, Damian Walsh <pussaydam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Not that my opinion has any weight or validity at all, but I tend to agree
> with Rich about Cellino. Though I might want him to be "better" I know we
> can have, and have had, a lot worse;
> 
> Damian
> 
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
> 
>> As I said I'm in the minority , probably of one on this list but what is
>> the alternative ?
>> I think he's not out to screw the club , he is a supporter of the club,
>> and it's his own money. We haven't ever had an owner like that. Plenty of
>> owners looking out for themselves and making sure they take their pay from
>> the club.
>> Ok he's a bit mad, but compared to GFH and co I'll take him any day.
>> Let's see what happens in the Summer ? If the fans haven't turfed him out
>> by then.
>>  From: "seanscr...@aol.com" <seanscr...@aol.com>
>> To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; davidwool...@gmail.com; nat...@sky.com
>> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2016, 13:33
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
>> 
>> Et tu, Rich? You have to be kidding me! The guy is a complete clown and we
>> will never be promoted under his ownership.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
>> To: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>; nattan <nat...@sky.com>
>> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>> Sent: Wed, Mar 2, 2016 4:37 am
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
>> 
>> Accept I'm in the minority here but I think Cellino spoke a lot of sense
>> in that interview (even if he was half pissed) Steve Evans has spent the
>> last 2 weeks basically pleading through the media for his job next season
>> and I totally agree with Cellino that he should shut up and concentrate on
>> the team and why he continues to lose us games through playing Wooton at
>> right back. So I think it was a great decision to stop Evans from talking
>> to the media following the defeat and to be honest it worked because the
>> last thing us fans wanted to hear was Evans's excuses. It was a bad night
>> we have to move on to Bolton to get a result. Also, I accept his reasons
>> for leaving at half time. He was embarrassed, I would have also considered
>> leaving at half-time. I know people who have met Cellino and he really is a
>> supporter of this club. You can choose to believe that or not. I also liked
>> his statement that fans are better than the team. Obvious but completely
>> true ! Cellino IN for me.  From: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>
>> To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016, 18:54 Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky
>> - link Struggle to believe anything Cellino says is worth listening. Utter
>> idiot and we won't get anywhere until he goes.  Discussing who should be
>> manager whilst he is owner is just rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic.
>> Surely no-one trusts a word he says by now?Sorry to be so negative!> On 1
>> Mar 2016, at 18:49, "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> wrote:> > Hard to
>> understand but worth a listen>
>> https://www.facebook.com/LUFC.NEWS.HIGHLIGHTS/videos/984808424922676/> A
>> good twitter comment by my son - made me chuckle> Mas won't sack Evans. I
>> can only assume that the "Manager Eater" doesn't have the stomach for a
>> challenge of Man vs Food proportions>
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[Damian Walsh]

Not that my opinion has any weight or validity at all, but I tend to agree
with Rich about Cellino. Though I might want him to be "better" I know we
can have, and have had, a lot worse;

Damian

On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

> As I said I'm in the minority , probably of one on this list but what is
> the alternative ?
> I think he's not out to screw the club , he is a supporter of the club,
> and it's his own money. We haven't ever had an owner like that. Plenty of
> owners looking out for themselves and making sure they take their pay from
> the club.
> Ok he's a bit mad, but compared to GFH and co I'll take him any day.
> Let's see what happens in the Summer ? If the fans haven't turfed him out
> by then.
>   From: "seanscr...@aol.com" <seanscr...@aol.com>
>  To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; davidwool...@gmail.com; nat...@sky.com
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
>  Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2016, 13:33
>  Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
>
> Et tu, Rich? You have to be kidding me! The guy is a complete clown and we
> will never be promoted under his ownership.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
> To: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>; nattan <nat...@sky.com>
> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Wed, Mar 2, 2016 4:37 am
> Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
>
> Accept I'm in the minority here but I think Cellino spoke a lot of sense
> in that interview (even if he was half pissed) Steve Evans has spent the
> last 2 weeks basically pleading through the media for his job next season
> and I totally agree with Cellino that he should shut up and concentrate on
> the team and why he continues to lose us games through playing Wooton at
> right back. So I think it was a great decision to stop Evans from talking
> to the media following the defeat and to be honest it worked because the
> last thing us fans wanted to hear was Evans's excuses. It was a bad night
> we have to move on to Bolton to get a result. Also, I accept his reasons
> for leaving at half time. He was embarrassed, I would have also considered
> leaving at half-time. I know people who have met Cellino and he really is a
> supporter of this club. You can choose to believe that or not. I also liked
> his statement that fans are better than the team. Obvious but completely
> true ! Cellino IN for me.  From: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>
> To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016, 18:54 Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky
> - link Struggle to believe anything Cellino says is worth listening. Utter
> idiot and we won't get anywhere until he goes.  Discussing who should be
> manager whilst he is owner is just rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic.
> Surely no-one trusts a word he says by now?Sorry to be so negative!> On 1
> Mar 2016, at 18:49, "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> wrote:> > Hard to
> understand but worth a listen>
> https://www.facebook.com/LUFC.NEWS.HIGHLIGHTS/videos/984808424922676/> A
> good twitter comment by my son - made me chuckle> Mas won't sack Evans. I
> can only assume that the "Manager Eater" doesn't have the stomach for a
> challenge of Man vs Food proportions>
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Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[Ben Thorpe]

Not the only one. I'd take him over any of the recent owners. Cellino in.

-Original Message-
From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On 
Behalf Of Richard Walker
Sent: 02 March 2016 14:38
To: seanscr...@aol.com; davidwool...@gmail.com; nat...@sky.com
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

As I said I'm in the minority , probably of one on this list but what is the 
alternative ? I think he's not out to screw the club , he is a supporter of the 
club, and it's his own money. We haven't ever had an owner like that. Plenty of 
owners looking out for themselves and making sure they take their pay from the 
club. Ok he's a bit mad, but compared to GFH and co I'll take him any day. 
Let's see what happens in the Summer ? If the fans haven't turfed him out by 
then. 
  From: "seanscr...@aol.com" <seanscr...@aol.com>
 To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; davidwool...@gmail.com; nat...@sky.com
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2016, 13:33
 Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
   
Et tu, Rich? You have to be kidding me! The guy is a complete clown and we will 
never be promoted under his ownership. 


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From: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
To: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>; nattan <nat...@sky.com>
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Wed, Mar 2, 2016 4:37 am
Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

Accept I'm in the minority here but I think Cellino spoke a lot of sense in 
that interview (even if he was half pissed) Steve Evans has spent the last 2 
weeks basically pleading through the media for his job next season and I 
totally agree with Cellino that he should shut up and concentrate on the team 
and why he continues to lose us games through playing Wooton at right back. So 
I think it was a great decision to stop Evans from talking to the media 
following the defeat and to be honest it worked because the last thing us fans 
wanted to hear was Evans's excuses. It was a bad night we have to move on to 
Bolton to get a result. Also, I accept his reasons for leaving at half time. He 
was embarrassed, I would have also considered leaving at half-time. I know 
people who have met Cellino and he really is a supporter of this club. You can 
choose to believe that or not. I also liked his statement that fans are better 
than the team. Obvious but completely true ! Cellino IN for me.  F
 rom: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com> To: "nat...@sky.com" 
<nat...@sky.com> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org> Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 
2016, 18:54 Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link Struggle to believe 
anything Cellino says is worth listening. Utter idiot and we won't get anywhere 
until he goes.  Discussing who should be manager whilst he is owner is just 
rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic. Surely no-one trusts a word he says by 
now?Sorry to be so negative!> On 1 Mar 2016, at 18:49, "nat...@sky.com" 
<nat...@sky.com> wrote:> > Hard to understand but worth a listen> 
https://www.facebook.com/LUFC.NEWS.HIGHLIGHTS/videos/984808424922676/> A good 
twitter comment by my son - made me chuckle> Mas won't sack Evans. I can only 
assume that the "Manager Eater" doesn't have the stomach for a challenge of Man 
vs Food proportions> ___> Leedslist 
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[Dr Michael Benjamin]

And creating and scoring goals? We don't do that either. To talk that our
defence is the Achilles heel is completely wrong. We are a a very poor
team, badly coached in an ailing club disastrously, in financial ruin
without a ground or training ground. That's today's Leeds United.
On 2 Mar 2016 2:53 p.m., "- -"  wrote:

>...well I wouldn't play Becchio in centre midfield...
>
>someone put some stats up in 2015 about the points the team accumulated
>with Bellusci in the team and without him (we were measurably better
>with him)
>
>I do think that Coyle/Berardi at RBack will go a long way to giving
>balance and restoring some confidence. As mentioned before some of the
>things Wootton was getting wrong were not a results of being out of
>position (if we accept that he is a CHalf)...he was doing stuff in the
>position normally occupied by CHalfs and getting them wrong.
>
>I'm not advocating a witch hunt, that's not the point, the point is
>that we can see a weak link and there are apparently obvious
>solutions...all we're saying I think is, this is not working, there is
>an option, let's at least give it a go.
>
>  On 02 March 2016 at 11:19 Rob Heath  wrote:
>  Not sure the facts agree with your assertion about the defence. We
>  had a
>  wobbly 15 mins v B/ton, but prior to that we had conceded 10 goals
>  in the
>  preceding 11 games (not sure when Rosler was sacked, but if you cf
>  the 11
>  games in Sep & Oct we let in 16.) Maybe the big problem was the
>  absence of
>  the much-maligned Bellusci (who Evans has reinstated)?
>  And I don't pay any attention to this classic internet-age gripe
>  about
>  "playing people out of position"..if you're any good at
>  football, you can play anywhere on the pitch.
>  On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 6:19 PM,  wrote:
>
>  I can't even make my mind up about the fat knacker - there' no doubt
>  we're
>  playing better football than under Rosler, Hockaday etc, but with
>  little
>  creativity, and a centre so soft that we cave in catastrophically
>  like at
>  Brighton. There are some very basic defensive issues not being
>  addressed,
>  and I don't know if it's because the defenders we've got are
>  shit/stupid/lazy/uncommitted, or if the manager simply cannot
>  motivate
>  them/organise them, or is it elements of all the above? And what is
>  the
>  obsession with playing players out of position - Cook, Byron, Coyle,
>  Wootton, Mowatt?
>  It's all a massive f*ck-up that's for sure!
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[{broken-address}]

Et tu, Rich? You have to be kidding me! The guy is a complete clown and we will 
never be promoted under his ownership. 



-Original Message-
From: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
To: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>; nattan <nat...@sky.com>
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Wed, Mar 2, 2016 4:37 am
Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

Accept I'm in the minority here but I think Cellino spoke a lot of sense in 
that interview (even if he was half pissed) Steve Evans has spent the last 2 
weeks basically pleading through the media for his job next season and I 
totally agree with Cellino that he should shut up and concentrate on the team 
and why he continues to lose us games through playing Wooton at right back. So 
I think it was a great decision to stop Evans from talking to the media 
following the defeat and to be honest it worked because the last thing us fans 
wanted to hear was Evans's excuses. It was a bad night we have to move on to 
Bolton to get a result. Also, I accept his reasons for leaving at half time. He 
was embarrassed, I would have also considered leaving at half-time. I know 
people who have met Cellino and he really is a supporter of this club. You can 
choose to believe that or not. I also liked his statement that fans are better 
than the team. Obvious but completely true ! Cellino IN for me.   
 From: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com> To: "nat...@sky.com" 
<nat...@sky.com> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org> Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 
2016, 18:54 Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link   Struggle to 
believe anything Cellino says is worth listening. Utter idiot and we won't get 
anywhere until he goes.  Discussing who should be manager whilst he is owner is 
just rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic. Surely no-one trusts a word he says 
by now?Sorry to be so negative!> On 1 Mar 2016, at 18:49, "nat...@sky.com" 
<nat...@sky.com> wrote:> > Hard to understand but worth a listen> 
https://www.facebook.com/LUFC.NEWS.HIGHLIGHTS/videos/984808424922676/> A good 
twitter comment by my son - made me chuckle> Mas won't sack Evans. I can only 
assume that the "Manager Eater" doesn't have the stomach for a challenge of Man 
vs Food proportions> ___> Leedslist 
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[- -]

   Not sure the defence is the main problem:

   We've let in 39 in 33 games; Sheff Wed in 6th have let in 35; Brighton
   in 4th, 34

   However, we have scored 30; SW have scored 50 and Brighton 49

   30 is the joint second lowest (= with Charlton, currently bottom); MK
   Dons 21st in the league have the worst scoring record with 28.

   You don't win many games with a ratio of less than 1 goal per game
   scored.

 On 02 March 2016 at 13:16 Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>
 wrote:
 We have had a shit defence for the last 14 years Someone
 mentioned histon...
 Problem is players come on loan get permanent deals and we turn them
 to shit
 Sent from my iPad

 On 2 Mar 2016, at 11:19, Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> wrote:
 Not sure the facts agree with your assertion about the defence. We
 had a
 wobbly 15 mins v B/ton, but prior to that we had conceded 10 goals
 in the
 preceding 11 games (not sure when Rosler was sacked, but if you cf
 the 11
 games in Sep & Oct we let in 16.) Maybe the big problem was the
 absence of
 the much-maligned Bellusci (who Evans has reinstated)?
 And I don't pay any attention to this classic internet-age gripe
 about
 "playing people out of position"..if you're any good at
 football, you can play anywhere on the pitch.

 >> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 6:19 PM, <bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk>
 wrote:>>
 >> I can believe he was embarrassed that's for sure - I couldn't
 watch the
 >> second half either! Agree that Evans needs to take advice around
 playing
 >> that f*ckwit Wootton too. I can also believe Cellino wants us to
 do well,
 >> for both glory and financial reasons. However, whilst we're stuck
 with him,
 >> as well as putting his hand in his pocket (maybe) he is an
 embarrassment
 >> that can match the team at the drop of a hat. Any future looks
 compromised,
 >> at best, with him around, but it is as it is.
 >>
 >> I can't even make my mind up about the fat knacker - there' no
 doubt we're
 >> playing better football than under Rosler, Hockaday etc, but with
 little
 >> creativity, and a centre so soft that we cave in catastrophically
 like at
 >> Brighton. There are some very basic defensive issues not being
 addressed,
 >> and I don't know if it's because the defenders we've got are
 >> shit/stupid/lazy/uncommitted, or if the manager simply cannot
 motivate
 >> them/organise them, or is it elements of all the above? And what
 is the
 >> obsession with playing players out of position - Cook, Byron,
 Coyle,
 >> Wootton, Mowatt?
 >>
 >> It's all a massive f*ck-up that's for sure!
 >>
 >> Sent from my iPad
 >>
 >>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 09:34, Richard Walker
 <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
 >>>
 >>> Accept I'm in the minority here but I think Cellino spoke a lot
 of sense
 >> in that interview (even if he was half pissed)
 >>> Steve Evans has spent the last 2 weeks basically pleading
 through the
 >> media for his job next season and I totally agree with Cellino
 that he
 >> should shut up and concentrate on the team and why he continues
 to lose us
 >> games through playing Wooton at right back. So I think it was a
 great
 >> decision to stop Evans from talking to the media following the
 defeat and
 >> to be honest it worked because the last thing us fans wanted to
 hear was
 >> Evans's excuses. It was a bad night we have to move on to Bolton
 to get a
 >> result.
 >>> Also, I accept his reasons for leaving at half time. He was
 embarrassed,
 >> I would have also considered leaving at half-time. I know people
 who have
 >> met Cellino and he really is a supporter of this club. You can
 choose to
 >> believe that or not.
 >>> I also liked his statement that fans are better than the team.
     Obvious
 >> but completely true !
 >>>
 >>> Cellino IN for me.
 >>>
 >>> From: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>
 >>> To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>
 >>> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 >>> Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016, 18:54
 >>> Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
 >>>
 >>> Struggle to believe anything Cellino says is worth listening.
 Utter
 >> idiot and we won't get anywhere until he goes. Discussing who
 s

Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[Matt Anderson]

When he is played out of position, in position or anywhere else it ceases to be 
his fault if he is picked week after week with the same result. Unless he 
refuses to play in it self a crime against humanity.  Basically it stopped 
being wontons fault the 10th time he was picked and fucked up

Sent from my iPad

> On 2 Mar 2016, at 12:52, - -  wrote:
> 
>   ...well I wouldn't play Becchio in centre midfield...
> 
>   someone put some stats up in 2015 about the points the team accumulated
>   with Bellusci in the team and without him (we were measurably better
>   with him)
> 
>   I do think that Coyle/Berardi at RBack will go a long way to giving
>   balance and restoring some confidence. As mentioned before some of the
>   things Wootton was getting wrong were not a results of being out of
>   position (if we accept that he is a CHalf)...he was doing stuff in the
>   position normally occupied by CHalfs and getting them wrong.
> 
>   I'm not advocating a witch hunt, that's not the point, the point is
>   that we can see a weak link and there are apparently obvious
>   solutions...all we're saying I think is, this is not working, there is
>   an option, let's at least give it a go.
> 
> On 02 March 2016 at 11:19 Rob Heath  wrote:
> Not sure the facts agree with your assertion about the defence. We
> had a
> wobbly 15 mins v B/ton, but prior to that we had conceded 10 goals
> in the
> preceding 11 games (not sure when Rosler was sacked, but if you cf
> the 11
> games in Sep & Oct we let in 16.) Maybe the big problem was the
> absence of
> the much-maligned Bellusci (who Evans has reinstated)?
> And I don't pay any attention to this classic internet-age gripe
> about
> "playing people out of position"..if you're any good at
> football, you can play anywhere on the pitch.
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 6:19 PM,  wrote:
> 
> I can't even make my mind up about the fat knacker - there' no doubt
> we're
> playing better football than under Rosler, Hockaday etc, but with
> little
> creativity, and a centre so soft that we cave in catastrophically
> like at
> Brighton. There are some very basic defensive issues not being
> addressed,
> and I don't know if it's because the defenders we've got are
> shit/stupid/lazy/uncommitted, or if the manager simply cannot
> motivate
> them/organise them, or is it elements of all the above? And what is
> the
> obsession with playing players out of position - Cook, Byron, Coyle,
> Wootton, Mowatt?
> It's all a massive f*ck-up that's for sure!
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[Matt Anderson]

We have had a shit defence for the last 14 years Someone mentioned histon...

Problem is players come on loan get permanent deals and we turn them to shit

Sent from my iPad

> On 2 Mar 2016, at 11:19, Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> wrote:
> 
> Not sure the facts agree with your assertion about the defence. We had a
> wobbly 15 mins v B/ton, but prior to that we had conceded 10 goals in the
> preceding 11 games (not sure when Rosler was sacked, but if you cf the 11
> games in Sep & Oct we let in 16.) Maybe the big problem was the absence of
> the much-maligned Bellusci (who Evans has reinstated)?
> 
> And I don't pay any attention to this classic internet-age gripe about
> "playing people out of position"..if you're any good at
> football, you can play anywhere on the pitch.
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 6:19 PM, <bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> I can believe he was embarrassed that's for sure - I couldn't watch the
>> second half either! Agree that Evans needs to take advice around playing
>> that f*ckwit Wootton too. I can also believe Cellino wants us to do well,
>> for both glory and financial reasons. However, whilst we're stuck with him,
>> as well as putting his hand in his pocket (maybe) he is an embarrassment
>> that can match the team at the drop of a hat. Any future looks compromised,
>> at best, with him around, but it is as it is.
>> 
>> I can't even make my mind up about the fat knacker - there' no doubt we're
>> playing better football than under Rosler, Hockaday etc, but with little
>> creativity, and a centre so soft that we cave in catastrophically like at
>> Brighton. There are some very basic defensive issues not being addressed,
>> and I don't know if it's because the defenders we've got are
>> shit/stupid/lazy/uncommitted, or if the manager simply cannot motivate
>> them/organise them, or is it elements of all the above? And what is the
>> obsession with playing players out of position - Cook, Byron, Coyle,
>> Wootton, Mowatt?
>> 
>> It's all a massive f*ck-up that's for sure!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 09:34, Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Accept I'm in the minority here but I think Cellino spoke a lot of sense
>> in that interview (even if he was half pissed)
>>> Steve Evans has spent the last 2 weeks basically pleading through the
>> media for his job next season and I totally agree with Cellino that he
>> should shut up and concentrate on the team and why he continues to lose us
>> games through playing Wooton at right back. So I think it was a great
>> decision to stop Evans from talking to the media following the defeat and
>> to be honest it worked because the last thing us fans wanted to hear was
>> Evans's excuses. It was a bad night we have to move on to Bolton to get a
>> result.
>>> Also, I accept his reasons for leaving at half time. He was embarrassed,
>> I would have also considered leaving at half-time. I know people who have
>> met Cellino and he really is a supporter of this club. You can choose to
>> believe that or not.
>>> I also liked his statement that fans are better than the team. Obvious
>> but completely true !
>>> 
>>> Cellino IN for me.
>>> 
>>> From: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>
>>> To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>
>>> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016, 18:54
>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
>>> 
>>> Struggle to believe anything Cellino says is worth listening. Utter
>> idiot and we won't get anywhere until he goes.  Discussing who should be
>> manager whilst he is owner is just rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic.
>>> 
>>> Surely no-one trusts a word he says by now?
>>> 
>>> Sorry to be so negative!
>>> 
>>>> On 1 Mar 2016, at 18:49, "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hard to understand but worth a listen
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/LUFC.NEWS.HIGHLIGHTS/videos/984808424922676/
>>>> A good twitter comment by my son - made me chuckle
>>>> Mas won't sack Evans. I can only assume that the "Manager Eater"
>> doesn't have the stomach for a challenge of Man vs Food proportions
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[Rob Heath]

Not sure the facts agree with your assertion about the defence. We had a
wobbly 15 mins v B/ton, but prior to that we had conceded 10 goals in the
preceding 11 games (not sure when Rosler was sacked, but if you cf the 11
games in Sep & Oct we let in 16.) Maybe the big problem was the absence of
the much-maligned Bellusci (who Evans has reinstated)?

And I don't pay any attention to this classic internet-age gripe about
"playing people out of position"..if you're any good at
football, you can play anywhere on the pitch.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 6:19 PM, <bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> I can believe he was embarrassed that's for sure - I couldn't watch the
> second half either! Agree that Evans needs to take advice around playing
> that f*ckwit Wootton too. I can also believe Cellino wants us to do well,
> for both glory and financial reasons. However, whilst we're stuck with him,
> as well as putting his hand in his pocket (maybe) he is an embarrassment
> that can match the team at the drop of a hat. Any future looks compromised,
> at best, with him around, but it is as it is.
>
> I can't even make my mind up about the fat knacker - there' no doubt we're
> playing better football than under Rosler, Hockaday etc, but with little
> creativity, and a centre so soft that we cave in catastrophically like at
> Brighton. There are some very basic defensive issues not being addressed,
> and I don't know if it's because the defenders we've got are
> shit/stupid/lazy/uncommitted, or if the manager simply cannot motivate
> them/organise them, or is it elements of all the above? And what is the
> obsession with playing players out of position - Cook, Byron, Coyle,
> Wootton, Mowatt?
>
> It's all a massive f*ck-up that's for sure!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 2 Mar 2016, at 09:34, Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Accept I'm in the minority here but I think Cellino spoke a lot of sense
> in that interview (even if he was half pissed)
> > Steve Evans has spent the last 2 weeks basically pleading through the
> media for his job next season and I totally agree with Cellino that he
> should shut up and concentrate on the team and why he continues to lose us
> games through playing Wooton at right back. So I think it was a great
> decision to stop Evans from talking to the media following the defeat and
> to be honest it worked because the last thing us fans wanted to hear was
> Evans's excuses. It was a bad night we have to move on to Bolton to get a
> result.
> > Also, I accept his reasons for leaving at half time. He was embarrassed,
> I would have also considered leaving at half-time. I know people who have
> met Cellino and he really is a supporter of this club. You can choose to
> believe that or not.
> > I also liked his statement that fans are better than the team. Obvious
> but completely true !
> >
> > Cellino IN for me.
> >
> >      From: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>
> > To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>
> > Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016, 18:54
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
> >
> > Struggle to believe anything Cellino says is worth listening. Utter
> idiot and we won't get anywhere until he goes.  Discussing who should be
> manager whilst he is owner is just rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic.
> >
> > Surely no-one trusts a word he says by now?
> >
> > Sorry to be so negative!
> >
> >> On 1 Mar 2016, at 18:49, "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hard to understand but worth a listen
> >> https://www.facebook.com/LUFC.NEWS.HIGHLIGHTS/videos/984808424922676/
> >> A good twitter comment by my son - made me chuckle
> >> Mas won't sack Evans. I can only assume that the "Manager Eater"
> doesn't have the stomach for a challenge of Man vs Food proportions
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[Dr Michael Benjamin]

We are not playing better. We are playing badly a different way. The bottom
line is results and that has not changed,. Most of it is underperforming
players due to a caricature of what a team and club should look like.
Cellino has no money and believes he is an asset instead. He isn't.
Owners don't run clubs they bring in pros. This self possessed lunatic
thinks he is a football man. He isn't. He is the epitome of a little
learning is a dangerous thing plus a fool and his money are soon parted..,
plus there is nothing more dangerous than an enthusiastic moron.
On 2 Mar 2016 12:20 p.m., <bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> I can believe he was embarrassed that's for sure - I couldn't watch the
> second half either! Agree that Evans needs to take advice around playing
> that f*ckwit Wootton too. I can also believe Cellino wants us to do well,
> for both glory and financial reasons. However, whilst we're stuck with him,
> as well as putting his hand in his pocket (maybe) he is an embarrassment
> that can match the team at the drop of a hat. Any future looks compromised,
> at best, with him around, but it is as it is.
>
> I can't even make my mind up about the fat knacker - there' no doubt we're
> playing better football than under Rosler, Hockaday etc, but with little
> creativity, and a centre so soft that we cave in catastrophically like at
> Brighton. There are some very basic defensive issues not being addressed,
> and I don't know if it's because the defenders we've got are
> shit/stupid/lazy/uncommitted, or if the manager simply cannot motivate
> them/organise them, or is it elements of all the above? And what is the
> obsession with playing players out of position - Cook, Byron, Coyle,
> Wootton, Mowatt?
>
> It's all a massive f*ck-up that's for sure!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 2 Mar 2016, at 09:34, Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Accept I'm in the minority here but I think Cellino spoke a lot of sense
> in that interview (even if he was half pissed)
> > Steve Evans has spent the last 2 weeks basically pleading through the
> media for his job next season and I totally agree with Cellino that he
> should shut up and concentrate on the team and why he continues to lose us
> games through playing Wooton at right back. So I think it was a great
> decision to stop Evans from talking to the media following the defeat and
> to be honest it worked because the last thing us fans wanted to hear was
> Evans's excuses. It was a bad night we have to move on to Bolton to get a
> result.
> > Also, I accept his reasons for leaving at half time. He was embarrassed,
> I would have also considered leaving at half-time. I know people who have
> met Cellino and he really is a supporter of this club. You can choose to
> believe that or not.
> > I also liked his statement that fans are better than the team. Obvious
> but completely true !
> >
> > Cellino IN for me.
> >
> >  From: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>
> > To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>
> > Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016, 18:54
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
> >
> > Struggle to believe anything Cellino says is worth listening. Utter
> idiot and we won't get anywhere until he goes.  Discussing who should be
> manager whilst he is owner is just rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic.
> >
> > Surely no-one trusts a word he says by now?
> >
> > Sorry to be so negative!
> >
> >> On 1 Mar 2016, at 18:49, "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hard to understand but worth a listen
> >> https://www.facebook.com/LUFC.NEWS.HIGHLIGHTS/videos/984808424922676/
> >> A good twitter comment by my son - made me chuckle
> >> Mas won't sack Evans. I can only assume that the "Manager Eater"
> doesn't have the stomach for a challenge of Man vs Food proportions
> >> ___
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Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[bruvvaleeluv]

I can believe he was embarrassed that's for sure - I couldn't watch the second 
half either! Agree that Evans needs to take advice around playing that f*ckwit 
Wootton too. I can also believe Cellino wants us to do well, for both glory and 
financial reasons. However, whilst we're stuck with him, as well as putting his 
hand in his pocket (maybe) he is an embarrassment that can match the team at 
the drop of a hat. Any future looks compromised, at best, with him around, but 
it is as it is. 

I can't even make my mind up about the fat knacker - there' no doubt we're 
playing better football than under Rosler, Hockaday etc, but with little 
creativity, and a centre so soft that we cave in catastrophically like at 
Brighton. There are some very basic defensive issues not being addressed, and I 
don't know if it's because the defenders we've got are 
shit/stupid/lazy/uncommitted, or if the manager simply cannot motivate 
them/organise them, or is it elements of all the above? And what is the 
obsession with playing players out of position - Cook, Byron, Coyle, Wootton, 
Mowatt?

It's all a massive f*ck-up that's for sure!

Sent from my iPad

> On 2 Mar 2016, at 09:34, Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Accept I'm in the minority here but I think Cellino spoke a lot of sense in 
> that interview (even if he was half pissed) 
> Steve Evans has spent the last 2 weeks basically pleading through the media 
> for his job next season and I totally agree with Cellino that he should shut 
> up and concentrate on the team and why he continues to lose us games through 
> playing Wooton at right back. So I think it was a great decision to stop 
> Evans from talking to the media following the defeat and to be honest it 
> worked because the last thing us fans wanted to hear was Evans's excuses. It 
> was a bad night we have to move on to Bolton to get a result. 
> Also, I accept his reasons for leaving at half time. He was embarrassed, I 
> would have also considered leaving at half-time. I know people who have met 
> Cellino and he really is a supporter of this club. You can choose to believe 
> that or not. 
> I also liked his statement that fans are better than the team. Obvious but 
> completely true ! 
> 
> Cellino IN for me. 
> 
>  From: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>
> To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> 
> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016, 18:54
> Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
> 
> Struggle to believe anything Cellino says is worth listening. Utter idiot and 
> we won't get anywhere until he goes.  Discussing who should be manager whilst 
> he is owner is just rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic. 
> 
> Surely no-one trusts a word he says by now?
> 
> Sorry to be so negative!
> 
>> On 1 Mar 2016, at 18:49, "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hard to understand but worth a listen
>> https://www.facebook.com/LUFC.NEWS.HIGHLIGHTS/videos/984808424922676/
>> A good twitter comment by my son - made me chuckle
>> Mas won't sack Evans. I can only assume that the "Manager Eater" doesn't 
>> have the stomach for a challenge of Man vs Food proportions
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Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link

[Dr Michael Benjamin]

I prefer Bacchio at the club over that raving lunatic.
How you can find anything good to say about him is beyond me
He's is not ruining us... He is taking way past any hope of repair.
Michael
On 2 Mar 2016 11:37 a.m., "Richard Walker" <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Accept I'm in the minority here but I think Cellino spoke a lot of sense
> in that interview (even if he was half pissed)
> Steve Evans has spent the last 2 weeks basically pleading through the
> media for his job next season and I totally agree with Cellino that he
> should shut up and concentrate on the team and why he continues to lose us
> games through playing Wooton at right back. So I think it was a great
> decision to stop Evans from talking to the media following the defeat and
> to be honest it worked because the last thing us fans wanted to hear was
> Evans's excuses. It was a bad night we have to move on to Bolton to get a
> result.
> Also, I accept his reasons for leaving at half time. He was embarrassed, I
> would have also considered leaving at half-time. I know people who have met
> Cellino and he really is a supporter of this club. You can choose to
> believe that or not.
> I also liked his statement that fans are better than the team. Obvious but
> completely true !
>
> Cellino IN for me.
>
>   From: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>
>  To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>
> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>  Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016, 18:54
>  Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
>
> Struggle to believe anything Cellino says is worth listening. Utter idiot
> and we won't get anywhere until he goes.  Discussing who should be manager
> whilst he is owner is just rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic.
>
> Surely no-one trusts a word he says by now?
>
> Sorry to be so negative!
>
> > On 1 Mar 2016, at 18:49, "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hard to understand but worth a listen
> > https://www.facebook.com/LUFC.NEWS.HIGHLIGHTS/videos/984808424922676/
> > A good twitter comment by my son - made me chuckle
> > Mas won't sack Evans. I can only assume that the "Manager Eater" doesn't
> have the stomach for a challenge of Man vs Food proportions
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[Richard Walker]

Accept I'm in the minority here but I think Cellino spoke a lot of sense in 
that interview (even if he was half pissed) 
Steve Evans has spent the last 2 weeks basically pleading through the media for 
his job next season and I totally agree with Cellino that he should shut up and 
concentrate on the team and why he continues to lose us games through playing 
Wooton at right back. So I think it was a great decision to stop Evans from 
talking to the media following the defeat and to be honest it worked because 
the last thing us fans wanted to hear was Evans's excuses. It was a bad night 
we have to move on to Bolton to get a result. 
Also, I accept his reasons for leaving at half time. He was embarrassed, I 
would have also considered leaving at half-time. I know people who have met 
Cellino and he really is a supporter of this club. You can choose to believe 
that or not. 
I also liked his statement that fans are better than the team. Obvious but 
completely true ! 

Cellino IN for me. 

  From: David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>
 To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> 
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016, 18:54
 Subject: Re: [LU] Celino interiew on sky - link
   
Struggle to believe anything Cellino says is worth listening. Utter idiot and 
we won't get anywhere until he goes.  Discussing who should be manager whilst 
he is owner is just rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic. 

Surely no-one trusts a word he says by now?

Sorry to be so negative!

> On 1 Mar 2016, at 18:49, "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> wrote:
> 
> Hard to understand but worth a listen
> https://www.facebook.com/LUFC.NEWS.HIGHLIGHTS/videos/984808424922676/
> A good twitter comment by my son - made me chuckle
> Mas won't sack Evans. I can only assume that the "Manager Eater" doesn't have 
> the stomach for a challenge of Man vs Food proportions
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[David Woolmer]

Struggle to believe anything Cellino says is worth listening. Utter idiot and 
we won't get anywhere until he goes.  Discussing who should be manager whilst 
he is owner is just rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic. 

Surely no-one trusts a word he says by now?

Sorry to be so negative!

> On 1 Mar 2016, at 18:49, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
> 
> Hard to understand but worth a listen
> https://www.facebook.com/LUFC.NEWS.HIGHLIGHTS/videos/984808424922676/
> A good twitter comment by my son - made me chuckle
> Mas won't sack Evans. I can only assume that the "Manager Eater" doesn't have 
> the stomach for a challenge of Man vs Food proportions
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