RE: What would you do???

[Bill Bulkeley]

Yes its Christmas morning here right now santa has been alas no legacy stuff 
under the tree :-( 

You all have a merry Christmas

 

Bill 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Tuesday, 25 December 2018 5:03 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What would you do???

 

As for that LOM 2000/2200 in California - Has ANYONE ever received a reply from 
the person posting it?  

Joe is right - it's been "For Sale" for a LONG time!

 

I've decided it must be someone with NO desire to sell the machine (IF they 
even own it!)  It could be photos of a LOM they "harvested" from the internet - 
and they are getting their jollies posting it and getting inquiries from us and 
seeing the comments/discussions on our site.  If there is a member of this 
group that lives anywhere near that Mill, it would be interesting if they'd 
actually call the bluff and go check it out - even if they don't care to buy 
it.  

If you do, please post your results - along with some pictures of what you saw.

 

Merry Christmas to all - and to all - a Good Night. (I guess it is already the 
25th for you Bill.)

May God Bless Everyone.

Mac

  _  

  _  

 

-Original Message- 
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: Dec 24, 2018 11:34 AM 
To: 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: What would you do??? 




Thank's Joe.

Merry Christmas to you as well.

For me the Z axis is what I want, (of a matter of coarse longer bed would also 
be nice.) but I too am NOT a CNC type of person. (Sometimes I have problems 
just running this E-mail stuff.) ;-p unless I plan to do wood working as a 
business in the future, Then perhaps a CNC would be necessary, but as for now, 
I'm out NO Way No How am I going to play with that...

 

As far as the 2000/2200 on E-bay, I have e-mailed him twice asking if he had 
the gears sets. NO REPLY from him. That would be an awesome machine to own if 
its all there! 

I too have no idea on why its still on E-bay.It has been there for a LONG TIME, 
Perhaps it the distance/shipping cost problem ? Perhaps its just a money thing? 
 (He thinks his machine is worth $75,000 and we think its worth $75.00...) ;-)

 

Have a very Happy Holiday.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, December 24, 2018, 7:08:36 AM EST, 'joe biunno' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote: 

 

 

hey Curt!... well, a few things to consider... he does say that there are 
gears, just that they were never installed... when I purchased my used, 1800 
Legacy, it was the opposite of this ebay machine... my machine was setup as a 
manual machine and all of the CNC upgrade kit was there, but never installed... 
so I wonder if Legacy sent out there CNC machines with both options, manual and 
CNC... of course, it would be wise to ask the seller for additional photos to 
see what "gears" he is referring to, and how complete are the gears... and also 
if the pieces are there that hold the gears and attach to the headstock... I 
never realistically gave it any consideration to set up my CNC equipment, as I 
never intended to do any hard core, repetitive work(and I have no computer 
programming expertise at all!)... so to answer the question, I would set it up 
as a manual machine... other points to consider, how much?... starting bid is 
$3,000, is there a reserve?... take away the CNC option, is it worth the 
price?... there are other 1800's selling for less(with a "make an offer" 
option!)... and why that Legacy 2000(or is it a 2200?) in California has not 
sold yet is a mystery to me...it has been on the market for a couple of years, 
I believe...  it's asking price is less than this 1800 and it also has a "make 
an offer" option... and one knock I heard on the older-type legacy CNC's, was 
that all of the lead screws were very slow in operation... and why Legacy came 
out with a rack-and-pinion upgrade... I have never seen that upgrade in person 
or a photo of it, but it did speed things up quite a bit, from what I was able 
to find out... and last, but not least, is the inevitable "where is it and what 
is it going to cost to go get it" factor... anyway, wouldn't be a bad thing to 
find under the Christmas tree, so I guess it comes down to if you have been 
good or bad this year!... LOL!... Merry Christmas Eve guys!... enjoy the 
holidays... Joe B.

 

 

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Re: What would you do???

[MWF]

As for that LOM 2000/2200 in California - Has ANYONE ever received a reply from the person posting it?  Joe is right - it's been "For Sale" for a LONG time!I've decided it must be someone with NO desire to sell the machine (IF they even own it!)  It could be photos of a LOM they "harvested" from the internet - and they are getting their jollies posting it and getting inquiries from us and seeing the comments/discussions on our site.  If there is a member of this group that lives anywhere near that Mill, it would be interesting if they'd actually call the bluff and go check it out - even if they don't care to buy it.  If you do, please post your results - along with some pictures of what you saw.Merry Christmas to all - and to all - a Good Night. (I guess it is already the 25th for you Bill.)May God Bless Everyone.Mac-Original Message-
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: Dec 24, 2018 11:34 AM
To: 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: What would you do???


Thank's Joe.Merry Christmas to you as well.For me the Z axis is what I want, (of a matter of coarse longer bed would also be nice.) but I too am NOT a CNC type of person. (Sometimes I have problems just running this E-mail stuff.) ;-p unless I plan to do wood working as a business in the future, Then perhaps a CNC would be necessary, but as for now, I'm out NO Way No How am I going to play with that...As far as the 2000/2200 on E-bay, I have e-mailed him twice asking if he had the gears sets. NO REPLY from him. That would be an awesome machine to own if its all there! I too have no idea on why its still on E-bay.It has been there for a LONG TIME, Perhaps it the distance/shipping cost problem ? Perhaps its just a money thing?  (He thinks his machine is worth $75,000 and we think its worth $75.00...) ;-)Have a very Happy Holiday.C.A.G.





On Monday, December 24, 2018, 7:08:36 AM EST, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:



hey Curt!... well, a few things to consider... he does say that there are gears, just that they were never installed... when I purchased my used, 1800 Legacy, it was the opposite of this ebay machine... my machine was setup as a manual machine and all of the CNC upgrade kit was there, but never installed... so I wonder if Legacy sent out there CNC machines with both options, manual and CNC... of course, it would be wise to ask the seller for additional photos to see what "gears" he is referring to, and how complete are the gears... and also if the pieces are there that hold the gears and attach to the headstock... I never realistically gave it any consideration to set up my CNC equipment, as I never intended to do any hard core, repetitive work(and I have no computer programming expertise at all!)... so to answer the question, I would set it up as a manual machine... other points to consider, how much?... starting bid is $3,000, is there a reserve?... take away the CNC option, is it worth the price?... there are other 1800's selling for less(with a "make an offer" option!)... and why that Legacy 2000(or is it a 2200?) in California has not sold yet is a mystery to me...it has been on the market for a couple of years, I believe...  it's asking price is less than this 1800 and it also has a "make an offer" option... and one knock I heard on the older-type legacy CNC's, was that all of the lead screws were very slow in operation... and why Legacy came out with a rack-and-pinion upgrade... I have never seen that upgrade in person or a photo of it, but it did speed things up quite a bit, from what I was able to find out... and last, but not least, is the inevitable "where is it and what is it going to cost to go get it" factor... anyway, wouldn't be a bad thing to find under the Christmas tree, so I guess it comes down to if you have been good or bad this year!... LOL!... Merry Christmas Eve guys!... enjoy the holidays... Joe B.



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Re: What would you do???

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Note taken, Yes on the CNC.
I wounder if you could have both? CNC and manual?an electronic gear box is 
something Tim K and I talked about years ago.( before Legacy went into CNC.)
Can you have your cake and eat it too?   ;-)
Have a great day. 
And Merry Christmas to you as well.
C.A.G.
On Monday, December 24, 2018, 11:33:23 AM EST, Chainlink 
 wrote:  
 
 Hey there, my vote is for CNC all the way! My home made setup controller 
developed a problem and I switched back to manual, and let me tell you that its 
a time consuming change to use the mill manually! There are two main advantages 
of cnc that I miss when going back to manual. First, motor holding torque keeps 
your z height from changing. Going back to manual using a digital caliper to 
measure the z height and then locking it down manually is quite annoying in 
comparison. Secondly, a motorized rotary axis is so great that it's hard to go 
back to manual.
Kind regards,
Dustin

On Sunday, December 23, 2018 at 10:32:53 PM UTC-5, Curt George wrote:
HI Guys. On E-bay there is an 1800 CNC unit.  its a very old cnc.I am asking if 
you were going to buy it, would you use it as a cnc or convert it back to a 
manual unit. Note, the only thing that is missing form a manual is the 
gears.(more or less)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ Legacy-ornamental-woodworking- 
mill-1800-Mach-3-computer- controlled/254037768757?hash= item3b25d4ba35:g: 
T1EAAOSwPrtcIAg9:rk:5:pf:0


Legacy ornamental woodworking mill 1800 Mach 3 computer controlled


Condition:Used
“Very good hardly used condition”
Time left:Time left:4d 18h Friday, 5:13PMStarting bid:US $3,000.00[ 0 bids ] 
Place bid- Enter US $3,000.00 or more  Add to watch list100% positive 
feedbackShipping:Free Local Pickup | See details Item location:Nutley, New 
Jersey, United States Ships to:Local pick-up onlyDelivery:VariesPayments:No 
Interest if paid in full in 6 months on $99+.  Apply Now  |  See termsReturns:
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C.A.G.


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Re: ornamental milling

[Chainlink]

Wow, that's so impressive! Great work!

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Re: What would you do???

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Thank's Joe.Merry Christmas to you as well.For me the Z axis is what I want, 
(of a matter of coarse longer bed would also be nice.) but I too am NOT a CNC 
type of person. (Sometimes I have problems just running this E-mail stuff.) ;-p 
unless I plan to do wood working as a business in the future, Then perhaps a 
CNC would be necessary, but as for now, I'm out NO Way No How am I going to 
play with that...
As far as the 2000/2200 on E-bay, I have e-mailed him twice asking if he had 
the gears sets. NO REPLY from him. That would be an awesome machine to own if 
its all there! I too have no idea on why its still on E-bay.It has been there 
for a LONG TIME, Perhaps it the distance/shipping cost problem ? Perhaps its 
just a money thing?  (He thinks his machine is worth $75,000 and we think its 
worth $75.00...) ;-)
Have a very Happy Holiday.
C.A.G.
On Monday, December 24, 2018, 7:08:36 AM EST, 'joe biunno' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:  
 
 hey Curt!... well, a few things to consider... he does say that there are 
gears, just that they were never installed... when I purchased my used, 1800 
Legacy, it was the opposite of this ebay machine... my machine was setup as a 
manual machine and all of the CNC upgrade kit was there, but never installed... 
so I wonder if Legacy sent out there CNC machines with both options, manual and 
CNC... of course, it would be wise to ask the seller for additional photos to 
see what "gears" he is referring to, and how complete are the gears... and also 
if the pieces are there that hold the gears and attach to the headstock... I 
never realistically gave it any consideration to set up my CNC equipment, as I 
never intended to do any hard core, repetitive work(and I have no computer 
programming expertise at all!)... so to answer the question, I would set it up 
as a manual machine... other points to consider, how much?... starting bid is 
$3,000, is there a reserve?... take away the CNC option, is it worth the 
price?... there are other 1800's selling for less(with a "make an offer" 
option!)... and why that Legacy 2000(or is it a 2200?) in California has not 
sold yet is a mystery to me...it has been on the market for a couple of years, 
I believe...  it's asking price is less than this 1800 and it also has a "make 
an offer" option... and one knock I heard on the older-type legacy CNC's, was 
that all of the lead screws were very slow in operation... and why Legacy came 
out with a rack-and-pinion upgrade... I have never seen that upgrade in person 
or a photo of it, but it did speed things up quite a bit, from what I was able 
to find out... and last, but not least, is the inevitable "where is it and what 
is it going to cost to go get it" factor... anyway, wouldn't be a bad thing to 
find under the Christmas tree, so I guess it comes down to if you have been 
good or bad this year!... LOL!... Merry Christmas Eve guys!... enjoy the 
holidays... Joe B.






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Re: What would you do???

[Chainlink]

Hey there, my vote is for CNC all the way! My home made setup controller 
developed a problem and I switched back to manual, and let me tell you that 
its a time consuming change to use the mill manually! There are two main 
advantages of cnc that I miss when going back to manual. First, motor 
holding torque keeps your z height from changing. Going back to manual 
using a digital caliper to measure the z height and then locking it down 
manually is quite annoying in comparison. Secondly, a motorized rotary axis 
is so great that it's hard to go back to manual.

Kind regards,

Dustin

On Sunday, December 23, 2018 at 10:32:53 PM UTC-5, Curt George wrote:
>
> HI Guys. On E-bay there is an 1800 CNC unit.  its a very old cnc.
> I am asking if you were going to buy it, would you use it as a cnc or 
> convert it back to a manual unit. Note, the only thing that is missing form 
> a manual is the gears.(more or less)
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Legacy-ornamental-woodworking-mill-1800-Mach-3-computer-controlled/254037768757?hash=item3b25d4ba35:g:T1EAAOSwPrtcIAg9:rk:5:pf:0
>
> Legacy ornamental woodworking mill 1800 Mach 3 computer controlled
> Condition:
> Used
>
> “Very good hardly used condition”
> Time left:
> Time left:4d 18h Friday, 5:13PM
> Starting bid:
> US $3,000.00
> [ 0 bids 
> 
>  ]
>  
> Place bid- 
> 
>
> 
>  
> Enter US $3,000.00 or more
>  
>  
> Add to watch list 
> 
> 100% positive feedback
> Shipping:
> Free Local Pickup | See details 
> 
>  
> Item location:
> Nutley, New Jersey, United States
>  
> Ships to:
> Local pick-up only
> Delivery:
> Varies
> Payments:
> [image: PayPal] [image: Visa] [image: Master Card] [image: Amex] [image: 
> Discover]
> [image: PayPal Credit]
> No Interest if paid in full in 6 months on $99+.  Apply Now 
>   |  See 
> terms 
> Returns:
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> 
> [image: Inline image]
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Re: What would you do???

['joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

hey Curt!... well, a few things to consider... he does say that there are 
gears, just that they were never installed... when I purchased my used, 
1800 Legacy, it was the opposite of this ebay machine... my machine was 
setup as a manual machine and all of the CNC upgrade kit was there, but 
never installed... so I wonder if Legacy sent out there CNC machines with 
both options, manual and CNC... of course, it would be wise to ask the 
seller for additional photos to see what "gears" he is referring to, and 
how complete are the gears... and also if the pieces are there that hold 
the gears and attach to the headstock... I never realistically gave it any 
consideration to set up my CNC equipment, as I never intended to do any 
hard core, repetitive work(and I have no computer programming expertise at 
all!)... so to answer the question, I would set it up as a manual 
machine... other points to consider, how much?... starting bid is $3,000, 
is there a reserve?... take away the CNC option, is it worth the price?... 
there are other 1800's selling for less(with a "make an offer" option!)... 
and why that Legacy 2000(or is it a 2200?) in California has not sold yet 
is a mystery to me...it has been on the market for a couple of years, I 
believe...  it's asking price is less than this 1800 and it also has a 
"make an offer" option... and one knock I heard on the older-type legacy 
CNC's, was that all of the lead screws were very slow in operation... and 
why Legacy came out with a rack-and-pinion upgrade... I have never seen 
that upgrade in person or a photo of it, but it did speed things up quite a 
bit, from what I was able to find out... and last, but not least, is the 
inevitable "where is it and what is it going to cost to go get it" 
factor... anyway, wouldn't be a bad thing to find under the Christmas tree, 
so I guess it comes down to if you have been good or bad this year!... 
LOL!... Merry Christmas Eve guys!... enjoy the holidays... Joe B.


>

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