RE: the archives

2019-02-11 Thread Bill Bulkeley
Man I was there for hours just looking at the listed posts let alone each and 
every one in between I remember Tim K in the past always saying make sure you 
put a clear topic on each post as usual he is totally right, so I guess all the 
stuff is there just hidden in between so many hours searching might be needed 
to find something way back in the past we posted.

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2019 4:35 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the archives

 

HI guys.

I don't think this is the case. I do not believe that anyone has removed 
anything...

 When I said lost in some archive dusty corner?

I meant if you go to the archives, you need to open each and every persons link 
to the conversation, if you don't, you can miss what you are looking for. 

 An example Burney's link that Bill suggested what I was looking for was a 
side note to another person, I would have not found it, even with the correct 
link. if I had not read every persons entry on to this link/topic.  Sometimes 
INFO is not easy to find... Its just that simple. ;-p

Sometimes things can be lost in plane sight, and other times you have to really 
look HARD to find what you want.  

"Which way did he go???" Its to easy to miss, the point. ;-)

 

Enough said.

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 11, 2019, 1:18:28 AM EST, Tim Krause 
 wrote: 

 

 

Are you talking about going through old Google messages?  There has been no 
mention of Google trimming anything.  There has been another floating around 
about Google groups+, and that has nothing to do with us.  Waiting to hear more.

Tim

On Feb 10, 2019, at 1:09 PM, Bill Bulkeley  wrote:

 

Here are a few more  such a shame so many are not there any more

 

Bill

From: Bill Bulkeley [mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, 11 February 2019 8:05 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: the archives

 

I spent most of Sunday looking through our archives so many things are gone 
that we posted over the years so many legacy mods we all invented not there so 
many projects we did not there dam shame i wonder what happened i did grab a 
few pics that were there here is a few just for old time sake

 

Bill

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Re: the archives

2019-02-11 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 HI guys.I don't think this is the case. I do not believe that anyone has 
removed anything... When I said lost in some archive dusty corner?I meant if 
you go to the archives, you need to open each and every persons link to the 
conversation, if you don't, you can miss what you are looking for.  An example 
Burney's link that Bill suggested what I was looking for was a side note to 
another person, I would have not found it, even with the correct link. if I had 
not read every persons entry on to this link/topic.  Sometimes INFO is not easy 
to find... Its just that simple. ;-pSometimes things can be lost in plane 
sight, and other times you have to really look HARD to find what you want.  
"Which way did he go???" Its to easy to miss, the point. ;-)
Enough said.Have a good night.
C.A.G.On Monday, February 11, 2019, 1:18:28 AM EST, Tim Krause 
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{}#yiv3154794323 Are you talking about going through old Google messages?  
There has been no mention of Google trimming anything.  There has been another 
floating around about Google groups+, and that has nothing to do with us.  
Waiting to hear more.

TimOn Feb 10, 2019, at 1:09 PM, Bill Bulkeley  wrote:



 



Here area few more  such a shame so many are not there any more







 



Bill





From:Bill Bulkeley [mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, 11 February 20198:05 AM
To:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: the archives







 



Ispent most of Sunday looking through our archives so many things are gone 
thatwe posted over the years so many legacy mods we all invented not there so 
manyprojects we did not there dam shame i wonder what happened i did grab a 
fewpics that were there here is a few just for old time sake







 



Bill









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Re: Holy Smokes!

2019-02-11 Thread MWF
Mike,Thanks.  Yes, it does.  It appears that that "slope into the ground" gets steeper as time goes on.Mac-Original Message-
From: "Okla Mike (Liltwisted)" 
Sent: Feb 11, 2019 10:29 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Holy Smokes!


  

  
  
It was on Feb 5th 2013, Time flies 

On 2/11/2019 9:24 PM, MWF wrote:


  
  
  
Yes Bill, I heard it too - with your own ears too.
  LoL
That conference call (or whatever it was) was about 8-10
  years ago if I remember correctly.
Thanks for reminding the Group members about it.  Great
  point.

Mac
  
  
-Original
  Message-
  
  From: Bill Bulkeley 

Sent: Feb 11, 2019 4:02 PM

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Holy Smokes!






  A while back
legacy did a live pod cast with
the members of this group and I heard with my own
ears that the members of this
group were given permission to share information
about the old manual mills amongst
each other in the group  so you didn’t do anything
wrong and to get a woodchuck
manual again in sure you would be forgiven even if
you did
   
  Bill
   
  
From:
  legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
  Sent:
  Tuesday, 12 February 2019
  3:32 AM
  To:
  legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Subject:
  Re: Holy Smokes!
  
   
  
Did I do something wrong?

  

  

  
Kind Regards,

   


  Timothy J. Ziegler


  Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty


  14171 160th Ave.


  Foreston MN 56330


   


  320-294-5798 shop


  320-630-2243 cell

  

  
   

  
   
  

  On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 9:39 AM Tim
Krause 
wrote:


  

  There's things
silently
going on in the background when it comes to
the information not getting
lost.  No worries there.


  Tim


  On Feb 11, 2019, at 4:15 AM, Tim
Ziegler 
wrote:
  
Hey Tim, 

  My Pleasure. I am honestly glad
I was able to contribute something that
others will benefit from. I just
happened to connect with the right
person the
day when I started my search. Now if a
few guys save it to their computers and
or a DVD or something. I printed it off
of course too.  

  

  
Kind Regards, 

   


  Timothy J. Ziegler 
   

Re: Holy Smokes!

2019-02-11 Thread Okla Mike (Liltwisted)

It was on Feb 5th 2013, Time flies

On 2/11/2019 9:24 PM, MWF wrote:

Yes Bill, I heard it too - with *your own ears* too. LoL
That conference call (or whatever it was) was about 8-10 years ago if 
I remember correctly.

Thanks for reminding the Group members about it.  Great point.
Mac



-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley
Sent: Feb 11, 2019 4:02 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Holy Smokes!

A while back legacy did a live pod cast with the members of this
group and I heard with my own ears that the members of this group
were given permission to share information about the old manual
mills amongst each other in the group  so you didn’t do anything
wrong and to get a woodchuck manual again in sure you would be
forgiven even if you did

Bill

*From:*legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of
*Tim Ziegler
*Sent:* Tuesday, 12 February 2019 3:32 AM
*To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Holy Smokes!

Did I do something wrong?


Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 9:39 AM Tim Krause mailto:artmarb...@comcast.net>> wrote:

There's things silently going on in the background when it
comes to the information not getting lost.  No worries there.

Tim

On Feb 11, 2019, at 4:15 AM, Tim Ziegler
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hey Tim,

My Pleasure. I am honestly glad I was able to contribute
something that others will benefit from. I just happened to
connect with the right person the day when I started my
search. Now if a few guys save it to their computers and or a
DVD or something. I printed it off of course too.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:36 AM Tim Krause <
artmarb...@comcast.net > wrote:

OMG, I can die now knowing the official woodchuck manual
has been found.  Long mystified to be lost and never to be
found again...at Legacy even!!!  Thanks for sharing this
Tim, it honestly has been well over a 10 year search.

Tim

On Feb 10, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Tim Ziegler <
timjzieg...@gmail.com > wrote:

Ok Rick,

This may not be exactly the manual but has tons of the
info you need and want. this what legacy sent me when I
landed my big catch AKA the WoodChuck

Triple click or highlight the link right click once pick
go too... and there you go. hope it helps.


https://www.dropbox.com/sh/4b0q959tgjmxi3j/AACPIMsz8WIiiveLBBoZXOzCa?dl=0=Woodchuck+IRT+manual.pdf


Let me know if you can open it.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 12:02 PM Rick Waters <
rick.wat...@gmail.com > wrote:

OK, I'll admit, I've had the Woodchuck for about 6
weeks (maybe 2 months), and I haven't really touched
it since I got it. Mostly because I had an unheated
garage as a workshop, and Chicago temps have been
prohibitively cold lately.

I took 20 minutes this morning to take the crank
handle Mike Pung sent me (thanks Mike!) out and figure
out how it goes on the machine.  I had to take off
some giant washers, but figured it out.

Then I started taking a bunch of parts off that were
rust frozen, oiled them up and got some of the surface
rust off so they could move freely (to some extent).

Then I saw it... This machine is AWESOME! I'm still
not sure about a lot of things, but the possibilities
are endless!  I just wanted something to make pool
cues with, but this can do so much more!

Yeah, I've seen the braiding and twist videos, flute
routing and all that.  But when you see how
configurable this is up close, your mind runs wild!

If anyone has 

RE: Holy Smokes!

2019-02-11 Thread MWF
Yes Bill, I heard it too - with your own ears too. LoLThat conference call (or whatever it was) was about 8-10 years ago if I remember correctly.Thanks for reminding the Group members about it.  Great point.Mac-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley 
Sent: Feb 11, 2019 4:02 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Holy Smokes!















A while back legacy did a live pod cast with
the members of this group and I heard with my own ears that the members of this
group were given permission to share information about the old manual mills amongst
each other in the group  so you didn’t do anything wrong and to get a woodchuck
manual again in sure you would be forgiven even if you did

 

Bill

 



From:
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2019
3:32 AM
To:
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Holy Smokes!



 



Did I do something wrong?












Kind Regards,



 





Timothy J. Ziegler





Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty





14171 160th Ave.





Foreston MN 56330





 





320-294-5798 shop





320-630-2243 cell









 





 





On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 9:39 AM Tim Krause  wrote:









There's things silently
going on in the background when it comes to the information not getting
lost.  No worries there.





Tim





On Feb 11, 2019, at 4:15 AM, Tim Ziegler 
wrote:



Hey Tim, 



My Pleasure. I am honestly glad I was able to contribute something that
others will benefit from. I just happened to connect with the right person the
day when I started my search. Now if a few guys save it to their computers and
or a DVD or something. I printed it off of course too.  








Kind Regards, 



 





Timothy J. Ziegler 





Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 





14171 160th Ave. 





Foreston MN 56330 





 





320-294-5798 shop 





320-630-2243 cell 









 





 





On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:36 AM Tim Krause < artmarb...@comcast.net>
wrote: 









OMG, I can die now
knowing the official woodchuck manual has been found.  Long mystified to
be lost and never to be found again...at Legacy even!!!  Thanks for
sharing this Tim, it honestly has been well over a 10 year search. 





Tim 





On Feb 10, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Tim Ziegler < timjzieg...@gmail.com>
wrote: 





Ok Rick,  



 





This may not be exactly the manual but has tons of the info you need
and want. this what legacy sent me when I landed my big catch AKA the WoodChuck






Triple click or highlight the link right click once pick go too... and
there you go. hope it helps. 





https://www.dropbox.com/sh/4b0q959tgjmxi3j/AACPIMsz8WIiiveLBBoZXOzCa?dl=0=Woodchuck+IRT+manual.pdf






 





Let me know if you can open it. 








Kind Regards, 



 





Timothy J. Ziegler 





Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 





14171 160th Ave. 





Foreston MN 56330 





 





320-294-5798 shop 





320-630-2243 cell 









 







 





On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 12:02 PM Rick Waters < rick.wat...@gmail.com>
wrote: 







OK, I'll admit, I've had the Woodchuck for about 6 weeks (maybe 2
months), and I haven't really touched it since I got it.  Mostly because I
had an unheated garage as a workshop, and Chicago temps have been prohibitively
cold lately. 



 





I took 20 minutes this morning to take the crank handle Mike Pung sent
me (thanks Mike!) out and figure out how it goes on the machine.  I had to
take off some giant washers, but figured it out. 





 





Then I started taking a bunch of parts off that were rust frozen, oiled
them up and got some of the surface rust off so they could move freely (to some
extent). 





 





Then I saw it...  This machine is AWESOME!  I'm still not
sure about a lot of things, but the possibilities are endless!  I just
wanted something to make pool cues with, but this can do so much more! 





 





Yeah, I've seen the braiding and twist videos, flute routing and all
that.  But when you see how configurable this is up close, your mind runs
wild! 





 





If anyone has a Woodchuck manual, or even an extra one, I'd be
interested it copying it.  The company I own is a professional training
company, and I make training manuals all the time.  I can make PDFs out of
anything.  So if you want, I can make professional manuals that are out of
print...  Just an offer. 





 





Thanks again to Mike Pung! 





 





Rick 













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Re: Holy Smokes!

2019-02-11 Thread Tim Ziegler
Thanks you guys.

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019, 3:02 PM Bill Bulkeley  A while back legacy did a live pod cast with the members of this group and
> I heard with my own ears that the members of this group were given
> permission to share information about the old manual mills amongst each
> other in the group  so you didn’t do anything wrong and to get a woodchuck
> manual again in sure you would be forgiven even if you did
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 12 February 2019 3:32 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Holy Smokes!
>
>
>
> Did I do something wrong?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 9:39 AM Tim Krause  wrote:
>
> There's things silently going on in the background when it comes to the
> information not getting lost.  No worries there.
>
> Tim
>
> On Feb 11, 2019, at 4:15 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> Hey Tim,
>
> My Pleasure. I am honestly glad I was able to contribute something that
> others will benefit from. I just happened to connect with the right person
> the day when I started my search. Now if a few guys save it to their
> computers and or a DVD or something. I printed it off of course too.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:36 AM Tim Krause < artmarb...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> OMG, I can die now knowing the official woodchuck manual has been found.
> Long mystified to be lost and never to be found again...at Legacy even!!!
> Thanks for sharing this Tim, it honestly has been well over a 10 year
> search.
>
> Tim
>
> On Feb 10, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Tim Ziegler < timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ok Rick,
>
>
>
> This may not be exactly the manual but has tons of the info you need and
> want. this what legacy sent me when I landed my big catch AKA the WoodChuck
>
> Triple click or highlight the link right click once pick go too... and
> there you go. hope it helps.
>
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/4b0q959tgjmxi3j/AACPIMsz8WIiiveLBBoZXOzCa?dl=0=Woodchuck+IRT+manual.pdf
>
>
>
> Let me know if you can open it.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 12:02 PM Rick Waters < rick.wat...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> OK, I'll admit, I've had the Woodchuck for about 6 weeks (maybe 2 months),
> and I haven't really touched it since I got it.  Mostly because I had an
> unheated garage as a workshop, and Chicago temps have been prohibitively
> cold lately.
>
>
>
> I took 20 minutes this morning to take the crank handle Mike Pung sent me
> (thanks Mike!) out and figure out how it goes on the machine.  I had to
> take off some giant washers, but figured it out.
>
>
>
> Then I started taking a bunch of parts off that were rust frozen, oiled
> them up and got some of the surface rust off so they could move freely (to
> some extent).
>
>
>
> Then I saw it...  This machine is AWESOME!  I'm still not sure about a lot
> of things, but the possibilities are endless!  I just wanted something to
> make pool cues with, but this can do so much more!
>
>
>
> Yeah, I've seen the braiding and twist videos, flute routing and all
> that.  But when you see how configurable this is up close, your mind runs
> wild!
>
>
>
> If anyone has a Woodchuck manual, or even an extra one, I'd be interested
> it copying it.  The company I own is a professional training company, and I
> make training manuals all the time.  I can make PDFs out of anything.  So
> if you want, I can make professional manuals that are out of print...  Just
> an offer.
>
>
>
> Thanks again to Mike Pung!
>
>
>
> Rick
>
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RE: Holy Smokes!

2019-02-11 Thread Bill Bulkeley
A while back legacy did a live pod cast with the members of this group and I 
heard with my own ears that the members of this group were given permission to 
share information about the old manual mills amongst each other in the group  
so you didn’t do anything wrong and to get a woodchuck manual again in sure you 
would be forgiven even if you did

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2019 3:32 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Holy Smokes!

 

Did I do something wrong?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 9:39 AM Tim Krause  wrote:

There's things silently going on in the background when it comes to the 
information not getting lost.  No worries there.

Tim

On Feb 11, 2019, at 4:15 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:

Hey Tim, 

My Pleasure. I am honestly glad I was able to contribute something that others 
will benefit from. I just happened to connect with the right person the day 
when I started my search. Now if a few guys save it to their computers and or a 
DVD or something. I printed it off of course too.  


Kind Regards, 

 

Timothy J. Ziegler 

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 

14171 160th Ave. 

Foreston MN 56330 

 

320-294-5798 shop 

320-630-2243 cell 

 

 

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:36 AM Tim Krause < artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote: 

OMG, I can die now knowing the official woodchuck manual has been found.  Long 
mystified to be lost and never to be found again...at Legacy even!!!  Thanks 
for sharing this Tim, it honestly has been well over a 10 year search. 

Tim 

On Feb 10, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Tim Ziegler < timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote: 

Ok Rick,  

 

This may not be exactly the manual but has tons of the info you need and want. 
this what legacy sent me when I landed my big catch AKA the WoodChuck 

Triple click or highlight the link right click once pick go too... and there 
you go. hope it helps. 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/4b0q959tgjmxi3j/AACPIMsz8WIiiveLBBoZXOzCa?dl=0 

 =Woodchuck+IRT+manual.pdf 

 

Let me know if you can open it. 


Kind Regards, 

 

Timothy J. Ziegler 

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 

14171 160th Ave. 

Foreston MN 56330 

 

320-294-5798 shop 

320-630-2243 cell 

 

 

On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 12:02 PM Rick Waters < rick.wat...@gmail.com> wrote: 

OK, I'll admit, I've had the Woodchuck for about 6 weeks (maybe 2 months), and 
I haven't really touched it since I got it.  Mostly because I had an unheated 
garage as a workshop, and Chicago temps have been prohibitively cold lately. 

 

I took 20 minutes this morning to take the crank handle Mike Pung sent me 
(thanks Mike!) out and figure out how it goes on the machine.  I had to take 
off some giant washers, but figured it out. 

 

Then I started taking a bunch of parts off that were rust frozen, oiled them up 
and got some of the surface rust off so they could move freely (to some 
extent). 

 

Then I saw it...  This machine is AWESOME!  I'm still not sure about a lot of 
things, but the possibilities are endless!  I just wanted something to make 
pool cues with, but this can do so much more! 

 

Yeah, I've seen the braiding and twist videos, flute routing and all that.  But 
when you see how configurable this is up close, your mind runs wild! 

 

If anyone has a Woodchuck manual, or even an extra one, I'd be interested it 
copying it.  The company I own is a professional training company, and I make 
training manuals all the time.  I can make PDFs out of anything.  So if you 
want, I can make professional manuals that are out of print...  Just an offer. 

 

Thanks again to Mike Pung! 

 

Rick 

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Re: Holy Smokes!

2019-02-11 Thread MAX LATHAM
Recollection of copyright laws.I think you  can duplicate anything you wish 
as long as it is not sold in the market
max


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 on behalf of Tim Ziegler 

Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 10:29 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Holy Smokes!

Did I do something wrong again???
This manual came from Legacy. Sorry if I wasn't suppose to share that.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 9:47 AM Tim Krause 
mailto:artmarb...@comcast.net>> wrote:
Hi,

I can answer this question.  I am the only person that has the right to 
redistribute the manuals and videos.  There are certain conditions that do 
apply.  Of them the most important one is the material must only be 
redistributed to members in this group and preferable to owners of the 
equipment.  If anyone else claims to be selling copies or CDs of information, 
that is extremely prohibited.  If there are copies of the full training menus 
on eBay or any other streaming services, they are also prohibited.  If you or 
anyone else have any questions, feel free to ask in the group or to my personal 
email address.

Tim
On Feb 11, 2019, at 6:23 AM, Ray Leaman 
mailto:view...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Not to be a Debbie Downer but page 2 shows Copyright by Phantom Engineering in 
1991.

I'm no expert on copyright law but just sayin...is Legacy permission needed 
before duplicating???

On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 11:20 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < 
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
Hello Rick
Welcome to the OM world.(that is Ornamental Milling)
I am glad that you can see the potential for your Wood Chuck. There are some 
pretty neat things you can do with
your Ornamental mill.
I cant wait to see what you come up with.
Wishing you the best of luck.

C.A.G.

On Sunday, February 10, 2019, 10:03:02 PM EST, Rick Waters < 
rick.wat...@gmail.com> wrote:


Wow!  That's perfect! Thanks!!!

On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 8:50 PM Tim Ziegler < 
timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok Rick,

This may not be exactly the manual but has tons of the info you need and want. 
this what legacy sent me when I landed my big catch AKA the WoodChuck
Triple click or highlight the link right click once pick go too... and there 
you go. hope it helps.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/4b0q959tgjmxi3j/AACPIMsz8WIiiveLBBoZXOzCa?dl=0=Woodchuck+IRT+manual.pdf

Let me know if you can open it.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 12:02 PM Rick Waters < 
rick.wat...@gmail.com> wrote:
OK, I'll admit, I've had the Woodchuck for about 6 weeks (maybe 2 months), and 
I haven't really touched it since I got it.  Mostly because I had an unheated 
garage as a workshop, and Chicago temps have been prohibitively cold lately.

I took 20 minutes this morning to take the crank handle Mike Pung sent me 
(thanks Mike!) out and figure out how it goes on the machine.  I had to take 
off some giant washers, but figured it out.

Then I started taking a bunch of parts off that were rust frozen, oiled them up 
and got some of the surface rust off so they could move freely (to some extent).

Then I saw it...  This machine is AWESOME!  I'm still not sure about a lot of 
things, but the possibilities are endless!  I just wanted something to make 
pool cues with, but this can do so much more!

Yeah, I've seen the braiding and twist videos, flute routing and all that.  But 
when you see how configurable this is up close, your mind runs wild!

If anyone has a Woodchuck manual, or even an extra one, I'd be interested it 
copying it.  The company I own is a professional training company, and I make 
training manuals all the time.  I can make PDFs out of anything.  So if you 
want, I can make professional manuals that are out of print...  Just an offer.

Thanks again to Mike Pung!

Rick

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Re: Holy Smokes!

2019-02-11 Thread Tim Ziegler
Did I do something wrong?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 9:39 AM Tim Krause  wrote:

> There's things silently going on in the background when it comes to the
> information not getting lost.  No worries there.
>
> Tim
> On Feb 11, 2019, at 4:15 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>
>> Hey Tim,
>> My Pleasure. I am honestly glad I was able to contribute something that
>> others will benefit from. I just happened to connect with the right person
>> the day when I started my search. Now if a few guys save it to their
>> computers and or a DVD or something. I printed it off of course too.
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:36 AM Tim Krause < artmarb...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> OMG, I can die now knowing the official woodchuck manual has been
>>> found.  Long mystified to be lost and never to be found again...at Legacy
>>> even!!!  Thanks for sharing this Tim, it honestly has been well over a 10
>>> year search.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>> On Feb 10, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Tim Ziegler < timjzieg...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:

 Ok Rick,

 This may not be exactly the manual but has tons of the info you need
 and want. this what legacy sent me when I landed my big catch AKA the
 WoodChuck
 Triple click or highlight the link right click once pick go too... and
 there you go. hope it helps.

 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/4b0q959tgjmxi3j/AACPIMsz8WIiiveLBBoZXOzCa?dl=0=Woodchuck+IRT+manual.pdf

 Let me know if you can open it.
 Kind Regards,

 Timothy J. Ziegler
 Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
 14171 160th Ave.
 Foreston MN 56330

 320-294-5798 shop
 320-630-2243 cell


 On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 12:02 PM Rick Waters < rick.wat...@gmail.com>
 wrote:

> OK, I'll admit, I've had the Woodchuck for about 6 weeks (maybe 2
> months), and I haven't really touched it since I got it.  Mostly because I
> had an unheated garage as a workshop, and Chicago temps have been
> prohibitively cold lately.
>
> I took 20 minutes this morning to take the crank handle Mike Pung sent
> me (thanks Mike!) out and figure out how it goes on the machine.  I had to
> take off some giant washers, but figured it out.
>
> Then I started taking a bunch of parts off that were rust frozen,
> oiled them up and got some of the surface rust off so they could move
> freely (to some extent).
>
> Then I saw it...  This machine is AWESOME!  I'm still not sure about a
> lot of things, but the possibilities are endless!  I just wanted something
> to make pool cues with, but this can do so much more!
>
> Yeah, I've seen the braiding and twist videos, flute routing and all
> that.  But when you see how configurable this is up close, your mind runs
> wild!
>
> If anyone has a Woodchuck manual, or even an extra one, I'd be
> interested it copying it.  The company I own is a professional training
> company, and I make training manuals all the time.  I can make PDFs out of
> anything.  So if you want, I can make professional manuals that are out of
> print...  Just an offer.
>
> Thanks again to Mike Pung!
>
> Rick
>
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Re: Holy Smokes!

2019-02-11 Thread Tim Ziegler
Did I do something wrong again???
This manual came from Legacy. Sorry if I wasn't suppose to share that.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 9:47 AM Tim Krause  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I can answer this question.  I am the only person that has the right to
> redistribute the manuals and videos.  There are certain conditions that do
> apply.  Of them the most important one is the material must only be
> redistributed to members in this group and preferable to owners of the
> equipment.  If anyone else claims to be selling copies or CDs of
> information, that is extremely prohibited.  If there are copies of the full
> training menus on eBay or any other streaming services, they are also
> prohibited.  If you or anyone else have any questions, feel free to ask in
> the group or to my personal email address.
>
> Tim
> On Feb 11, 2019, at 6:23 AM, Ray Leaman  wrote:
>>
>> Not to be a Debbie Downer but page 2 shows Copyright by Phantom
>> Engineering in 1991.
>>
>> I'm no expert on copyright law but just sayin...is Legacy permission
>> needed before duplicating???
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 11:20 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
>> Mills < legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Rick
>>> Welcome to the OM world.(that is Ornamental Milling)
>>> I am glad that you can see the potential for your Wood Chuck. There are
>>> some pretty neat things you can do with
>>> your Ornamental mill.
>>> I cant wait to see what you come up with.
>>> Wishing you the best of luck.
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 10, 2019, 10:03:02 PM EST, Rick Waters <
>>> rick.wat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Wow!  That's perfect! Thanks!!!
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 8:50 PM Tim Ziegler < timjzieg...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok Rick,
>>>
>>> This may not be exactly the manual but has tons of the info you need and
>>> want. this what legacy sent me when I landed my big catch AKA the WoodChuck
>>> Triple click or highlight the link right click once pick go too... and
>>> there you go. hope it helps.
>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/4b0q959tgjmxi3j/AACPIMsz8WIiiveLBBoZXOzCa?dl=0=Woodchuck+IRT+manual.pdf
>>>
>>> Let me know if you can open it.
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 12:02 PM Rick Waters < rick.wat...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> OK, I'll admit, I've had the Woodchuck for about 6 weeks (maybe 2
>>> months), and I haven't really touched it since I got it.  Mostly because I
>>> had an unheated garage as a workshop, and Chicago temps have been
>>> prohibitively cold lately.
>>>
>>> I took 20 minutes this morning to take the crank handle Mike Pung sent
>>> me (thanks Mike!) out and figure out how it goes on the machine.  I had to
>>> take off some giant washers, but figured it out.
>>>
>>> Then I started taking a bunch of parts off that were rust frozen, oiled
>>> them up and got some of the surface rust off so they could move freely (to
>>> some extent).
>>>
>>> Then I saw it...  This machine is AWESOME!  I'm still not sure about a
>>> lot of things, but the possibilities are endless!  I just wanted something
>>> to make pool cues with, but this can do so much more!
>>>
>>> Yeah, I've seen the braiding and twist videos, flute routing and all
>>> that.  But when you see how configurable this is up close, your mind runs
>>> wild!
>>>
>>> If anyone has a Woodchuck manual, or even an extra one, I'd be
>>> interested it copying it.  The company I own is a professional training
>>> company, and I make training manuals all the time.  I can make PDFs out of
>>> anything.  So if you want, I can make professional manuals that are out of
>>> print...  Just an offer.
>>>
>>> Thanks again to Mike Pung!
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
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Re: Holy Smokes!

2019-02-11 Thread Tim Krause
Hi, 

I can answer this question.  I am the only person that has the right to 
redistribute the manuals and videos.  There are certain conditions that do 
apply.  Of them the most important one is the material must only be 
redistributed to members in this group and preferable to owners of the 
equipment.  If anyone else claims to be selling copies or CDs of information, 
that is extremely prohibited.  If there are copies of the full training menus 
on eBay or any other streaming services, they are also prohibited.  If you or 
anyone else have any questions, feel free to ask in the group or to my personal 
email address.

Tim

On Feb 11, 2019, 6:23 AM, at 6:23 AM, Ray Leaman  wrote:
>Not to be a Debbie Downer but page 2 shows Copyright by Phantom
>Engineering
>in 1991.
>
>I'm no expert on copyright law but just sayin...is Legacy permission
>needed
>before duplicating???
>
>On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 11:20 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
>Mills <
>legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Rick
>> Welcome to the OM world.(that is Ornamental Milling)
>> I am glad that you can see the potential for your Wood Chuck. There
>are
>> some pretty neat things you can do with
>> your Ornamental mill.
>> I cant wait to see what you come up with.
>> Wishing you the best of luck.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Sunday, February 10, 2019, 10:03:02 PM EST, Rick Waters <
>> rick.wat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Wow!  That's perfect! Thanks!!!
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 8:50 PM Tim Ziegler 
>wrote:
>>
>> Ok Rick,
>>
>> This may not be exactly the manual but has tons of the info you need
>and
>> want. this what legacy sent me when I landed my big catch AKA the
>WoodChuck
>> Triple click or highlight the link right click once pick go too...
>and
>> there you go. hope it helps.
>>
>>
>https://www.dropbox.com/sh/4b0q959tgjmxi3j/AACPIMsz8WIiiveLBBoZXOzCa?dl=0=Woodchuck+IRT+manual.pdf
>>
>> Let me know if you can open it.
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 12:02 PM Rick Waters 
>> wrote:
>>
>> OK, I'll admit, I've had the Woodchuck for about 6 weeks (maybe 2
>months),
>> and I haven't really touched it since I got it.  Mostly because I had
>an
>> unheated garage as a workshop, and Chicago temps have been
>prohibitively
>> cold lately.
>>
>> I took 20 minutes this morning to take the crank handle Mike Pung
>sent me
>> (thanks Mike!) out and figure out how it goes on the machine.  I had
>to
>> take off some giant washers, but figured it out.
>>
>> Then I started taking a bunch of parts off that were rust frozen,
>oiled
>> them up and got some of the surface rust off so they could move
>freely (to
>> some extent).
>>
>> Then I saw it...  This machine is AWESOME!  I'm still not sure about
>a lot
>> of things, but the possibilities are endless!  I just wanted
>something to
>> make pool cues with, but this can do so much more!
>>
>> Yeah, I've seen the braiding and twist videos, flute routing and all
>> that.  But when you see how configurable this is up close, your mind
>runs
>> wild!
>>
>> If anyone has a Woodchuck manual, or even an extra one, I'd be
>interested
>> it copying it.  The company I own is a professional training company,
>and I
>> make training manuals all the time.  I can make PDFs out of anything.
> So
>> if you want, I can make professional manuals that are out of print...
> Just
>> an offer.
>>
>> Thanks again to Mike Pung!
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> --
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>Groups
>> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.
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Re: Holy Smokes!

2019-02-11 Thread Tim Krause
There's things silently going on in the background when it comes to the 
information not getting lost.  No worries there.

Tim

On Feb 11, 2019, 4:15 AM, at 4:15 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>Hey Tim,
>My Pleasure. I am honestly glad I was able to contribute something that
>others will benefit from. I just happened to connect with the right
>person
>the day when I started my search. Now if a few guys save it to their
>computers and or a DVD or something. I printed it off of course too.
>Kind Regards,
>
>Timothy J. Ziegler
>Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>14171 160th Ave.
>Foreston MN 56330
>
>320-294-5798 shop
>320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:36 AM Tim Krause 
>wrote:
>
>> OMG, I can die now knowing the official woodchuck manual has been
>found.
>> Long mystified to be lost and never to be found again...at Legacy
>even!!!
>> Thanks for sharing this Tim, it honestly has been well over a 10 year
>> search.
>>
>> Tim
>> On Feb 10, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Tim Ziegler 
>wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok Rick,
>>>
>>> This may not be exactly the manual but has tons of the info you need
>and
>>> want. this what legacy sent me when I landed my big catch AKA the
>WoodChuck
>>> Triple click or highlight the link right click once pick go too...
>and
>>> there you go. hope it helps.
>>>
>>>
>https://www.dropbox.com/sh/4b0q959tgjmxi3j/AACPIMsz8WIiiveLBBoZXOzCa?dl=0=Woodchuck+IRT+manual.pdf
>>>
>>> Let me know if you can open it.
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 12:02 PM Rick Waters <
>rick.wat...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
 OK, I'll admit, I've had the Woodchuck for about 6 weeks (maybe 2
 months), and I haven't really touched it since I got it.  Mostly
>because I
 had an unheated garage as a workshop, and Chicago temps have been
 prohibitively cold lately.

 I took 20 minutes this morning to take the crank handle Mike Pung
>sent
 me (thanks Mike!) out and figure out how it goes on the machine.  I
>had to
 take off some giant washers, but figured it out.

 Then I started taking a bunch of parts off that were rust frozen,
>oiled
 them up and got some of the surface rust off so they could move
>freely (to
 some extent).

 Then I saw it...  This machine is AWESOME!  I'm still not sure
>about a
 lot of things, but the possibilities are endless!  I just wanted
>something
 to make pool cues with, but this can do so much more!

 Yeah, I've seen the braiding and twist videos, flute routing and
>all
 that.  But when you see how configurable this is up close, your
>mind runs
 wild!

 If anyone has a Woodchuck manual, or even an extra one, I'd be
 interested it copying it.  The company I own is a professional
>training
 company, and I make training manuals all the time.  I can make PDFs
>out of
 anything.  So if you want, I can make professional manuals that are
>out of
 print...  Just an offer.

 Thanks again to Mike Pung!

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Re: Holy Smokes!

2019-02-11 Thread Ray Leaman
Not to be a Debbie Downer but page 2 shows Copyright by Phantom Engineering
in 1991.

I'm no expert on copyright law but just sayin...is Legacy permission needed
before duplicating???

On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 11:20 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Rick
> Welcome to the OM world.(that is Ornamental Milling)
> I am glad that you can see the potential for your Wood Chuck. There are
> some pretty neat things you can do with
> your Ornamental mill.
> I cant wait to see what you come up with.
> Wishing you the best of luck.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, February 10, 2019, 10:03:02 PM EST, Rick Waters <
> rick.wat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Wow!  That's perfect! Thanks!!!
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 8:50 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> Ok Rick,
>
> This may not be exactly the manual but has tons of the info you need and
> want. this what legacy sent me when I landed my big catch AKA the WoodChuck
> Triple click or highlight the link right click once pick go too... and
> there you go. hope it helps.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/4b0q959tgjmxi3j/AACPIMsz8WIiiveLBBoZXOzCa?dl=0=Woodchuck+IRT+manual.pdf
>
> Let me know if you can open it.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 12:02 PM Rick Waters 
> wrote:
>
> OK, I'll admit, I've had the Woodchuck for about 6 weeks (maybe 2 months),
> and I haven't really touched it since I got it.  Mostly because I had an
> unheated garage as a workshop, and Chicago temps have been prohibitively
> cold lately.
>
> I took 20 minutes this morning to take the crank handle Mike Pung sent me
> (thanks Mike!) out and figure out how it goes on the machine.  I had to
> take off some giant washers, but figured it out.
>
> Then I started taking a bunch of parts off that were rust frozen, oiled
> them up and got some of the surface rust off so they could move freely (to
> some extent).
>
> Then I saw it...  This machine is AWESOME!  I'm still not sure about a lot
> of things, but the possibilities are endless!  I just wanted something to
> make pool cues with, but this can do so much more!
>
> Yeah, I've seen the braiding and twist videos, flute routing and all
> that.  But when you see how configurable this is up close, your mind runs
> wild!
>
> If anyone has a Woodchuck manual, or even an extra one, I'd be interested
> it copying it.  The company I own is a professional training company, and I
> make training manuals all the time.  I can make PDFs out of anything.  So
> if you want, I can make professional manuals that are out of print...  Just
> an offer.
>
> Thanks again to Mike Pung!
>
> Rick
>
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Thin-stock follower & Thin Stock Support HOT

2019-02-11 Thread Tim Ziegler
Good morning fellow LOM & WC people.

Now that I found the Rotary table I was looking for I am looking for the 
Thin-Stock follower and Thin Stock Support.

I know selling parts from units is not always easy but I bought my LOM 1200 
to further my business opportunities and need to move forward.
Does anyone have these items for sale or has anyone made after market parts 
for them? I did see an idea on the "Turn Around" site. But I want the 
real thing. this is not a part I can get through Legacy. I've tried. 

Thanks everyone.

Kind regards,

Tim of ZWW

Tim J. Ziegler

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Re: Holy Smokes!

2019-02-11 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey Tim,
My Pleasure. I am honestly glad I was able to contribute something that
others will benefit from. I just happened to connect with the right person
the day when I started my search. Now if a few guys save it to their
computers and or a DVD or something. I printed it off of course too.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:36 AM Tim Krause  wrote:

> OMG, I can die now knowing the official woodchuck manual has been found.
> Long mystified to be lost and never to be found again...at Legacy even!!!
> Thanks for sharing this Tim, it honestly has been well over a 10 year
> search.
>
> Tim
> On Feb 10, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>
>> Ok Rick,
>>
>> This may not be exactly the manual but has tons of the info you need and
>> want. this what legacy sent me when I landed my big catch AKA the WoodChuck
>> Triple click or highlight the link right click once pick go too... and
>> there you go. hope it helps.
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/4b0q959tgjmxi3j/AACPIMsz8WIiiveLBBoZXOzCa?dl=0=Woodchuck+IRT+manual.pdf
>>
>> Let me know if you can open it.
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 12:02 PM Rick Waters < rick.wat...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, I'll admit, I've had the Woodchuck for about 6 weeks (maybe 2
>>> months), and I haven't really touched it since I got it.  Mostly because I
>>> had an unheated garage as a workshop, and Chicago temps have been
>>> prohibitively cold lately.
>>>
>>> I took 20 minutes this morning to take the crank handle Mike Pung sent
>>> me (thanks Mike!) out and figure out how it goes on the machine.  I had to
>>> take off some giant washers, but figured it out.
>>>
>>> Then I started taking a bunch of parts off that were rust frozen, oiled
>>> them up and got some of the surface rust off so they could move freely (to
>>> some extent).
>>>
>>> Then I saw it...  This machine is AWESOME!  I'm still not sure about a
>>> lot of things, but the possibilities are endless!  I just wanted something
>>> to make pool cues with, but this can do so much more!
>>>
>>> Yeah, I've seen the braiding and twist videos, flute routing and all
>>> that.  But when you see how configurable this is up close, your mind runs
>>> wild!
>>>
>>> If anyone has a Woodchuck manual, or even an extra one, I'd be
>>> interested it copying it.  The company I own is a professional training
>>> company, and I make training manuals all the time.  I can make PDFs out of
>>> anything.  So if you want, I can make professional manuals that are out of
>>> print...  Just an offer.
>>>
>>> Thanks again to Mike Pung!
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
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Re: the archives

2019-02-11 Thread Tim Ziegler
yes Bill I've looked at this a lot and am very grateful for all the items
you guys created and took pix of. This was the first place Mike sent me too.
I also continue to talk to Mike Pung and Curtis George a lot.  Been in
contact with Tim Krause along with LOM (Cindy) a fair amount too.
Great family the LOM group meaning all of you.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 9:58 PM Bill Bulkeley  wrote:

> Well at least it’s mostly still in our brains. Tim Krause also stored a
> fair about on our groups pages that’s good
> https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/index.html
>
> I assume you have looked at it all
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 11 February 2019 1:39 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: the archives
>
>
>
> Yea would be nice to have access to all that info for us that just joined
> your awesome world of LOM's
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 3:05 PM Bill Bulkeley 
> wrote:
>
> I spent most of Sunday looking through our archives so many things are
> gone that we posted over the years so many legacy mods we all invented not
> there so many projects we did not there dam shame i wonder what happened i
> did grab a few pics that were there here is a few just for old time sake
>
>
>
> Bill
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