Linear rail or not?

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

Hi guys,I am wanting some advise.Would someone be willing to start a new thread 
explaining the do’s and don’ts of putting linear rails and bearings to support 
the router carriage on both the x and y axis?I know the general gist but am 
having trouble visualizing how the router is going to work after being raised 
several inches higher than normal. My LOM is a 900.Thanks in advanceDenson 
Ingram

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RE: Spindle drive

[bulkeley]

No problem ,,Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2021 2:31 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Spindle drive

 

Thanks for sharing Bill

 

Jeff from Connecticut 





On Nov 30, 2021, at 9:51 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
  wrote:



Ok talking of spindle motors here is a short video showing with a ball bearing 
head stock you can run the spindle much faster than the feed motor to produce a 
better finish now this is a very old video its my first mill and the quality is 
not the best but hopefully you all will get the idea, smaller dia work the 
faster you can turn the work.

https://youtu.be/yNqqY547Zj8

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2021 1:08 PM
To: LOM Group mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Spindle drive

 

yeah I let him know, and he's going to start it as a new post. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 


 

 

Virus-free.  

 www.avg.com 

 

On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 7:43 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Curt this ones for you seeing is how you did yours not that long ago

 

Bill

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2021 10:24 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: Spindle drive

 

Hi guys,

I am wanting some advise.

Would someone be willing to start a new thread explaining the do’s and don’ts 
of putting linear rails and bearings to support the router carriage on both the 
x and y axis?

I know the general gist but am having trouble visualizing how the router is 
going to work after being raised several inches higher than normal. My LOM is a 
900.

Thanks in advance

Denson Ingram

Sent from Denson's iPhone

 

On Nov 30, 2021, at 5:50 AM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Oops, I guess better twice then not at all right Mac?

We do a lot of shipping and receiving here for the business, 

and at times I order in picture frame material and some of the companies will 

ask about the lengths and most will just only ship like 9 ft. I think. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:09 PM M.W.Foscue mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Tim,

I posted a comment about what you just said below (~20 minutes ago) - prior to 
reading this comment from you.

You expressed my thought exactly!

Mac


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-Original Message-
From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:03 PM
To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Spindle drive

 

Then you'll have to show him how to add bearings Billl


Kind Regards, 

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:28 PM Rick Hutley mailto:rghut...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Thanks for the warning Bill

Rick

 

On Nov 29, 2021, at 11:35, bulke...@mmnet.com.au  
 wrote:

Be careful if your mill only has Delrin bushes for bearings you cant drive it 
too fast or you will burn out your bearings you need ball bearings in your 
headstock to drive it fast

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jack Terry
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 3:22 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: Spindle drive

 

Thanks for the photos of your spindle drive. I’ll start looking for a large 
pulley and motor. Your method appears less complicated than the one using a 
motor drive and gears. I don’t need a Mercedes just something to spin the work 
for sanding. Whatever I do it needs to be soon before we have a few nights in 
South Louisiana when the temperature falls below freezing and I loose my garage 
workshop  to plant that have to be protected from freezing. Also I noted the 
discussion about a live center tailstock. Do you have any problems with the 
work spinning on the Legacy tailstock or do you have a live center. 

Jack Terry

Covington La

Sent from my iPhone

 

Re: Spindle drive

[Jeff Richmond]

Thanks for sharing Bill

Jeff from Connecticut 

> On Nov 30, 2021, at 9:51 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Ok talking of spindle motors here is a short video showing with a ball 
> bearing head stock you can run the spindle much faster than the feed motor to 
> produce a better finish now this is a very old video its my first mill and 
> the quality is not the best but hopefully you all will get the idea, smaller 
> dia work the faster you can turn the work.
> https://youtu.be/yNqqY547Zj8
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2021 1:08 PM
> To: LOM Group 
> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>  
> yeah I let him know, and he's going to start it as a new post. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> 
> Virus-free. www.avg.com
>  
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 7:43 PM  wrote:
> Curt this ones for you seeing is how you did yours not that long ago
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2021 10:24 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>  
> Hi guys,
> I am wanting some advise.
> Would someone be willing to start a new thread explaining the do’s and don’ts 
> of putting linear rails and bearings to support the router carriage on both 
> the x and y axis?
> I know the general gist but am having trouble visualizing how the router is 
> going to work after being raised several inches higher than normal. My LOM is 
> a 900.
> Thanks in advance
> Denson Ingram
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>  
> 
> On Nov 30, 2021, at 5:50 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Oops, I guess better twice then not at all right Mac?
> We do a lot of shipping and receiving here for the business, 
> and at times I order in picture frame material and some of the companies will 
> ask about the lengths and most will just only ship like 9 ft. I think. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:09 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
> Tim,
> I posted a comment about what you just said below (~20 minutes ago) - prior 
> to reading this comment from you.
> You expressed my thought exactly!
> Mac
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:03 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
> 
>  
> Then you'll have to show him how to add bearings Billl
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:28 PM Rick Hutley  wrote:
>  
> Thanks for the warning Bill
> Rick
>  
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 11:35, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> Be careful if your mill only has Delrin bushes for bearings you cant drive it 
> too fast or you will burn out your bearings you need ball bearings in your 
> headstock to drive it fast
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Jack Terry
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 3:22 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>  
> Thanks for the photos of your spindle drive. I’ll start looking for a large 
> pulley and motor. Your method appears less complicated than the one using a 
> motor drive and gears. I don’t need a Mercedes just something to spin the 
> work for sanding. Whatever I do it needs to be soon before we have a few 
> nights in South Louisiana when the temperature falls below freezing and I 
> loose my garage workshop  to plant that have to be protected from freezing. 
> Also I noted the discussion about a live center tailstock. Do you have any 
> problems with the work spinning on the Legacy tailstock or do you have a live 
> center. 
> Jack Terry
> Covington La
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 7:08 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
>  
> Hello there Jack
>  
> The Legacy drive hub on your lathe is a good idea. One that I live by.  I was 
> told by a friend of mine, to keep everything uniformed, that way you can go 
> form one machine to another with out having to change anything.
>  
> The spindle drive motor I have is hinged and gravity holds the motor to the 
> pulley. The drive motor dose not need to turn fast, 80 rpm is the fastest is 
> needs to turn, The  pulley needs to have a slot cut into it, so it will mesh 
> with the Legacy's headstock spindle. I 5/16" thumb screw is all that holds 
> the to together. 
> I made a pulley out of wood before I found this large one. You don't need 
> anything fancy. I've made a number of 
> different adaptors over the years, including a wooden Legacy adaptor a few 
> years back.
>  
> I hope this helps?
>  
> C.A.G.
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 

Re: Spindle drive

[Tim Ziegler]

For sure. All sounds like good info to me.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell



Virus-free.
www.avg.com

<#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 7:21 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Yes - and you are already doing that.  LoL!
>
> A second approach - if you couldn't or didn't want to make a longer Y-axis
> would be to just do it on the Y-axis - while putting the linear rails on
> top of the X-axis rails.  This second way would cut your loss of depth of
> throw in half.
>
> Keep us posted as to how it turns out. 
>
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Nov 30, 2021 7:27 PM
> To: LOM Group 
> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>
>
> Nice thoughts Mac,
> that would then create a need for your carriage to be modified to then
> right?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 6:08 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
>> Appears a concern is the sacrificing of depth of throw in the Z-axis.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thinking a little outside of the box (Mill):
>>
>> How about mounting a piece of aluminum 90º angle stock to the outer faces
>> of the X-axis and Y-axis rails - with one face of the 90º stock against the
>> rail extrusion and the other face extending outward on the upper side.
>> Then mount the linear rails to the top of the 90º faces.
>>
>> That should keep both the X and Y axis' down at a level close to the
>> original standoff.  By putting the angle stock to the outside of the X-axis
>> extrusions, you are preserving the original max diameter for the turning
>> stock.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just a thought - has anyone tried it?
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Nov 30, 2021 6:39 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>>
>>
>> Thanks for asking this Denson,
>>
>> I also have a 900 model and would be very interested in understanding
>> this “upgrade” better.
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2021, at 6:23 PM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys,
>> I am wanting some advise.
>> Would someone be willing to start a new thread explaining the do’s and
>> don’ts of putting linear rails and bearings to support the router carriage
>> on both the x and y axis?
>> I know the general gist but am having trouble visualizing how the router
>> is going to work after being raised several inches higher than normal. My
>> LOM is a 900.
>> Thanks in advance
>> Denson Ingram
>>
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2021, at 5:50 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>
>> Oops, I guess better twice then not at all right Mac?
>> We do a lot of shipping and receiving here for the business,
>> and at times I order in picture frame material and some of the
>> companies will
>> ask about the lengths and most will just only ship like 9 ft. I think.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:09 PM M.W.Foscue 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tim,
>>>
>>> I posted a comment about what you just said below (~20 minutes ago) -
>>> prior to reading this comment from you.
>>>
>>> You expressed my thought exactly!
>>>
>>> Mac
>>> --
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 
>>> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:03 PM
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>>>
>>>
>>> Then you'll have to show him how to add bearings Billl
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:28 PM Rick Hutley  wrote:
>>>

 Thanks for the warning Bill
 Rick

 On Nov 29, 2021, at 11:35, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:

 Be careful if your mill only has Delrin bushes for bearings you cant
 drive it too fast or you will burn out your bearings you need ball bearings
 in your headstock to drive it fast



 Bill



 *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
 legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jack Terry
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 3:22 AM
 *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: Spindle drive



 Thanks for the photos of your spindle drive. I’ll start looking for a
 large pulley and motor. Your method appears less complicated than the 

RE: New member introduction

[bulkeley]

Always worth a look Denson thank you, please post the link

 

Bill

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2021 7:55 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Hi gentlemen,

Don’t know is this helps but I found acme 5/8-4 taps both left and right hand 
on eBay. They are a little pricey.

Denson

 

Sent from Denson's iPhone





On Nov 30, 2021, at 5:59 AM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



So is someone trying to reach out to Joe?

One of you guys that have been here since the beginning 

should have his contact info? Does Curt. 

At least you'd know all's well?


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:12 PM M.W.Foscue mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Bill,

 

Yep!   Thanks.

I'm pretty the were one of the two I found. 

I did remember that they were out of New York.

The may even be the one that Joe Biuno referred us to as well.

Thanks.

Mac


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  _  


-Original Message-
From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Nov 29, 2021 11:03 PM
To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: New member introduction

 

Ok https://www.dependableacme.com/class/#screw

Third one down I think this is it

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 2:50 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: RE: New member introduction

 

I and at least one other found it. It was not easy.

I am unable to find it again - but I believe the other Group member that 
sourced it was Joe Biuno - in New York.  Have not heard from him in a 
L-o-o-o-o-o-o-n-n-n-g time.  Have to pray that he is ok - and just VERY busy 
making custom drapery rods - and otherwise staying happy & HEALTHY!  Hi Joe!! 

 

I remember the "catch" was that it was made and sold in something like 12' 
lengths.

That meant you had to find a source hat would cut it to the length you needed - 
still paying for the 12 feet even though all you needed was 8 feet.  The other 
issue was S

You might end up paying an extra "over-size" charge - on top of an already 
rather pricey piece of threaded rod!

Cheers!

Mac

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  _  

 

-Original Message-
From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:56 PM
To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: New member introduction

 

I remember some one on the group finding legacy leadscrew threaded bar 
somewhere but I cant remember look in the archived the post will be there 
somewhere 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:17 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon them, 
please send them over. 

 

I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra length/weight 
are welcome.

 

 I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer 
continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that spring 
project has to be started.

 

Jeff from Connecticut

 

On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

OK I will dig a bit and come up with them. 

I finished the job and took it down until the next time. 

Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the machine 
back 

to its home. 

Like I said I flipped my parts. 

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Tim,

 

Pictures would be great, if you have them.

Jeff from Connecticut

 

On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hey Jeff, 

I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM connectors 

to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller stand 
modified 

with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put holes in 
walls 

like other's did lol. 

 

I can try to find pix if you'd like???

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Interesting. 

 

Re: Spindle drive

[M.W.Foscue]

Yes - and you are already doing that.  LoL!
A second approach - if you couldn't or didn't want to make a longer Y-axis 
would be to just do it on the Y-axis - while putting the linear rails on top of 
the X-axis rails.  This second way would cut your loss of depth of throw in 
half.
Keep us posted as to how it turns out. 
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Nov 30, 2021 7:27 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: Spindle drive
 
Nice thoughts Mac, that would then create a need for your carriage to be 
modified to then right?
Kind Regards, 
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330
 
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell






On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 6:08 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
Appears a concern is the sacrificing of depth of throw in the Z-axis.
 
Thinking a little outside of the box (Mill): 
How about mounting a piece of aluminum 90º angle stock to the outer faces of 
the X-axis and Y-axis rails - with one face of the 90º stock against the rail 
extrusion and the other face extending outward on the upper side.   Then mount 
the linear rails to the top of the 90º faces.
That should keep both the X and Y axis' down at a level close to the original 
standoff.  By putting the angle stock to the outside of the X-axis extrusions, 
you are preserving the original max diameter for the turning stock.
 
Just a thought - has anyone tried it?
Mac

-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Nov 30, 2021 6:39 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Spindle drive
 
Thanks for asking this Denson,  
I also have a 900 model and would be very interested in understanding this 
“upgrade” better.

Jeff from Connecticut

On Nov 30, 2021, at 6:23 PM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:


Hi guys,I am wanting some advise.
Would someone be willing to start a new thread explaining the do’s and don’ts 
of putting linear rails and bearings to support the router carriage on both the 
x and y axis?
I know the general gist but am having trouble visualizing how the router is 
going to work after being raised several inches higher than normal. My LOM is a 
900.
Thanks in advance
Denson Ingram

Sent from Denson's iPhone

On Nov 30, 2021, at 5:50 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:


Oops, I guess better twice then not at all right Mac?We do a lot of shipping 
and receiving here for the business, 
and at times I order in picture frame material and some of the companies will 
ask about the lengths and most will just only ship like 9 ft. I think. 
Kind Regards, 
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330
 
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell






On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:09 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
Tim,
I posted a comment about what you just said below (~20 minutes ago) - prior to 
reading this comment from you.
You expressed my thought exactly!
Mac

-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:03 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Spindle drive
 
Then you'll have to show him how to add bearings BilllKind Regards, 
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330
 
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell





On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:28 PM Rick Hutley  wrote:
 
Thanks for the warning Bill
Rick

On Nov 29, 2021, at 11:35, bulke...@mmnet.com.au (mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au) 
wrote:


Be careful if your mill only has Delrin bushes for bearings you cant drive it 
too fast or you will burn out your bearings you need ball bearings in your 
headstock to drive it fast
 
Bill
 
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)  On Behalf Of Jack Terry
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 3:22 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)
Subject: Re: Spindle drive


 
Thanks for the photos of your spindle drive. I’ll start looking for a large 
pulley and motor. Your method appears less complicated than the one using a 
motor drive and gears. I don’t need a Mercedes just something to spin the work 
for sanding. Whatever I do it needs to be soon before we have a few nights in 
South Louisiana when the temperature falls below freezing and I loose my garage 
workshop  to plant that have to be protected from freezing. Also I noted the 
discussion about a live center tailstock. Do you have any problems with the 
work spinning on the Legacy tailstock or do you have a live center. 
Jack Terry

Covington La
Sent from my iPhone




On Nov 28, 2021, at 7:08 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:

 
Hello there Jack

 

The Legacy drive hub on your lathe is a good idea. One that I live by.  I was 
told by a friend of mine, to keep everything uniformed, that way you can go 
form one machine to another with out having to change anything.

 

The spindle drive motor I have is hinged and gravity holds the motor to the 
pulley. The drive motor dose not need to turn fast, 80 rpm is the fastest is 
needs to turn, The  pulley needs to have a slot cut into it, so it will 

Re: Spindle drive

[Tim Ziegler]

Curt agreed to start a separate post for this discussion so you'll hear
from him tonight later.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 5:39 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Thanks for asking this Denson,
>
> I also have a 900 model and would be very interested in understanding this
> “upgrade” better.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 30, 2021, at 6:23 PM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
> I am wanting some advise.
> Would someone be willing to start a new thread explaining the do’s and
> don’ts of putting linear rails and bearings to support the router carriage
> on both the x and y axis?
> I know the general gist but am having trouble visualizing how the router
> is going to work after being raised several inches higher than normal. My
> LOM is a 900.
> Thanks in advance
> Denson Ingram
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> On Nov 30, 2021, at 5:50 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Oops, I guess better twice then not at all right Mac?
> We do a lot of shipping and receiving here for the business,
> and at times I order in picture frame material and some of the
> companies will
> ask about the lengths and most will just only ship like 9 ft. I think.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:09 PM M.W.Foscue 
> wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>>
>> I posted a comment about what you just said below (~20 minutes ago) -
>> prior to reading this comment from you.
>>
>> You expressed my thought exactly!
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:03 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>>
>>
>> Then you'll have to show him how to add bearings Billl
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:28 PM Rick Hutley  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the warning Bill
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 11:35, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>>
>>> Be careful if your mill only has Delrin bushes for bearings you cant
>>> drive it too fast or you will burn out your bearings you need ball bearings
>>> in your headstock to drive it fast
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jack Terry
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 3:22 AM
>>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Spindle drive
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the photos of your spindle drive. I’ll start looking for a
>>> large pulley and motor. Your method appears less complicated than the one
>>> using a motor drive and gears. I don’t need a Mercedes just something to
>>> spin the work for sanding. Whatever I do it needs to be soon before we have
>>> a few nights in South Louisiana when the temperature falls below freezing
>>> and I loose my garage workshop  to plant that have to be protected from
>>> freezing. Also I noted the discussion about a live center tailstock. Do you
>>> have any problems with the work spinning on the Legacy tailstock or do you
>>> have a live center.
>>>
>>> Jack Terry
>>>
>>> Covington La
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 7:08 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello there Jack
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Legacy drive hub on your lathe is a good idea. One that I live by.
>>> I was told by a friend of mine, to keep everything uniformed, that way you
>>> can go form one machine to another with out having to change anything.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The spindle drive motor I have is hinged and gravity holds the motor to
>>> the pulley. The drive motor dose not need to turn fast, 80 rpm is the
>>> fastest is needs to turn, The  pulley needs to have a slot cut into it, so
>>> it will mesh with the Legacy's headstock spindle. I 5/16" thumb screw is
>>> all that holds the to together.
>>>
>>> I made a pulley out of wood before I found this large one. You don't
>>> need anything fancy. I've made a number of
>>>
>>> different adaptors over the years, including a wooden Legacy adaptor a
>>> few years back.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope this helps?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 07:24:52 PM EST, Jack Terry <
>>> jterry8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a
>>> drive motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I
>>> ordered a new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with
>>> the hub for sanding and other details. A spindle 

Re: Spindle drive

[Tim Ziegler]

Nice thoughts Mac,
that would then create a need for your carriage to be modified to then
right?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 6:08 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Appears a concern is the sacrificing of depth of throw in the Z-axis.
>
>
>
> Thinking a little outside of the box (Mill):
>
> How about mounting a piece of aluminum 90º angle stock to the outer faces
> of the X-axis and Y-axis rails - with one face of the 90º stock against the
> rail extrusion and the other face extending outward on the upper side.
> Then mount the linear rails to the top of the 90º faces.
>
> That should keep both the X and Y axis' down at a level close to the
> original standoff.  By putting the angle stock to the outside of the X-axis
> extrusions, you are preserving the original max diameter for the turning
> stock.
>
>
>
> Just a thought - has anyone tried it?
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Nov 30, 2021 6:39 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>
>
> Thanks for asking this Denson,
>
> I also have a 900 model and would be very interested in understanding this
> “upgrade” better.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 30, 2021, at 6:23 PM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
> I am wanting some advise.
> Would someone be willing to start a new thread explaining the do’s and
> don’ts of putting linear rails and bearings to support the router carriage
> on both the x and y axis?
> I know the general gist but am having trouble visualizing how the router
> is going to work after being raised several inches higher than normal. My
> LOM is a 900.
> Thanks in advance
> Denson Ingram
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> On Nov 30, 2021, at 5:50 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> Oops, I guess better twice then not at all right Mac?
> We do a lot of shipping and receiving here for the business,
> and at times I order in picture frame material and some of the
> companies will
> ask about the lengths and most will just only ship like 9 ft. I think.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:09 PM M.W.Foscue 
> wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>>
>> I posted a comment about what you just said below (~20 minutes ago) -
>> prior to reading this comment from you.
>>
>> You expressed my thought exactly!
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:03 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>>
>>
>> Then you'll have to show him how to add bearings Billl
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:28 PM Rick Hutley  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the warning Bill
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 11:35, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>>
>>> Be careful if your mill only has Delrin bushes for bearings you cant
>>> drive it too fast or you will burn out your bearings you need ball bearings
>>> in your headstock to drive it fast
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jack Terry
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 3:22 AM
>>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Spindle drive
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the photos of your spindle drive. I’ll start looking for a
>>> large pulley and motor. Your method appears less complicated than the one
>>> using a motor drive and gears. I don’t need a Mercedes just something to
>>> spin the work for sanding. Whatever I do it needs to be soon before we have
>>> a few nights in South Louisiana when the temperature falls below freezing
>>> and I loose my garage workshop  to plant that have to be protected from
>>> freezing. Also I noted the discussion about a live center tailstock. Do you
>>> have any problems with the work spinning on the Legacy tailstock or do you
>>> have a live center.
>>>
>>> Jack Terry
>>>
>>> Covington La
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 7:08 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello there Jack
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Legacy drive hub on your lathe is a good idea. One that I live by.
>>> I was told by a friend of mine, to keep everything uniformed, that way you
>>> can go form one machine to another with out having to change anything.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The spindle drive motor I have is hinged and gravity holds the motor to
>>> the pulley. The drive motor dose not need to turn fast, 80 rpm is the
>>> fastest 

Re: Spindle drive

[Tim Ziegler]

I could probably text Curt and see if he can do it when he gets home.
Might be a bit later then everyone is still up at. but will be worth it.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 5:39 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Thanks for asking this Denson,
>
> I also have a 900 model and would be very interested in understanding this
> “upgrade” better.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 30, 2021, at 6:23 PM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
> I am wanting some advise.
> Would someone be willing to start a new thread explaining the do’s and
> don’ts of putting linear rails and bearings to support the router carriage
> on both the x and y axis?
> I know the general gist but am having trouble visualizing how the router
> is going to work after being raised several inches higher than normal. My
> LOM is a 900.
> Thanks in advance
> Denson Ingram
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> On Nov 30, 2021, at 5:50 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Oops, I guess better twice then not at all right Mac?
> We do a lot of shipping and receiving here for the business,
> and at times I order in picture frame material and some of the
> companies will
> ask about the lengths and most will just only ship like 9 ft. I think.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:09 PM M.W.Foscue 
> wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>>
>> I posted a comment about what you just said below (~20 minutes ago) -
>> prior to reading this comment from you.
>>
>> You expressed my thought exactly!
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:03 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>>
>>
>> Then you'll have to show him how to add bearings Billl
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:28 PM Rick Hutley  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the warning Bill
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 11:35, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>>
>>> Be careful if your mill only has Delrin bushes for bearings you cant
>>> drive it too fast or you will burn out your bearings you need ball bearings
>>> in your headstock to drive it fast
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jack Terry
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 3:22 AM
>>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Spindle drive
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the photos of your spindle drive. I’ll start looking for a
>>> large pulley and motor. Your method appears less complicated than the one
>>> using a motor drive and gears. I don’t need a Mercedes just something to
>>> spin the work for sanding. Whatever I do it needs to be soon before we have
>>> a few nights in South Louisiana when the temperature falls below freezing
>>> and I loose my garage workshop  to plant that have to be protected from
>>> freezing. Also I noted the discussion about a live center tailstock. Do you
>>> have any problems with the work spinning on the Legacy tailstock or do you
>>> have a live center.
>>>
>>> Jack Terry
>>>
>>> Covington La
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 7:08 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello there Jack
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Legacy drive hub on your lathe is a good idea. One that I live by.
>>> I was told by a friend of mine, to keep everything uniformed, that way you
>>> can go form one machine to another with out having to change anything.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The spindle drive motor I have is hinged and gravity holds the motor to
>>> the pulley. The drive motor dose not need to turn fast, 80 rpm is the
>>> fastest is needs to turn, The  pulley needs to have a slot cut into it, so
>>> it will mesh with the Legacy's headstock spindle. I 5/16" thumb screw is
>>> all that holds the to together.
>>>
>>> I made a pulley out of wood before I found this large one. You don't
>>> need anything fancy. I've made a number of
>>>
>>> different adaptors over the years, including a wooden Legacy adaptor a
>>> few years back.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope this helps?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 07:24:52 PM EST, Jack Terry <
>>> jterry8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a
>>> drive motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I
>>> ordered a new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with

Re: New member introduction

[Tim Ziegler]

thanks Jeff, at least I don't feel so alone.
So these finds maybe we could look at splitting up the machine between the
two of us. I have
several needs so if you want to message me seperate and send me the links
I'd take a look.
I'm building a Hybrid and it requires many items on the lom X 2 because of
what I am doing to it.
So give that some thought. I have to head back out and run the laser for a
couple hours and glue
a door together for a customer so I'll be out for a while but sure would
like to find the parts.

I have a friend that actually restores really old stuff for equipment. I'
don't do a lot of old stuff, unless
it's' an old Oliver tractor lol

More in a bit.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 3:18 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Hi Tim,
>
> I did reach out to Curt on the rotary table. Hopefully that will work out.
> I have seen a couple of other ( longer than my 900 )legacy machines for
> sale on Craigslist / Facebook Marketplace with accessories including one
> with a rotary table (a 1000EX for $875 and a 1500EX for $1200 ) but they
> didn’t want to part the accessories out separately and I don’t need another
> machine “yet”.
>
> Regarding your legacy collection, I confess to the same addition though I
> stay more local and until this point, it has been focused on various other
> woodworking equipment. Possibly in the realm of “Tool Rescue, Restoration,
> and Adoption” since it is far more involved than just buying a new tool and
> I can never seem to part with them after. 路‍♂️
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:37 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Thanks Jeff,
>
> Yes I had to search for a rotary table too and found one on the Router
> Forum I belong too.
> However trying to get any response on there is like pulling teeth. Like
> Curt says "Crickets"
> I'd have to check the miles on that one. Wow.
> But I sent my kids all the way to Texas for my first LOM, my Wood
> Chuck was in my back door.
> then Wisconsin for one, and finally South Dakota for the last one nice
> 1200 that I'm making into
> a REVO HYBRID. I'll be posting more on that here in a while.  Its a
> shorten up 1200 but will have
> 2 different area's to turn. In front like the Revo and in the middle like
> the basic LOM's are.
> I put a drive on it today so its a work in progress. I had to rob peter to
> pay paul on that one.
> So enough on me and my bad habits lol.
> We are looking forward to your progress and if I recall someone out there
> does have a rotary table for sale.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 4:09 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> Thanks for the welcome. I can relate to adopting the whole tool but the
>> challenge ever increases trying to find another corner in the garage to put
>> them. I will have to dig up some photos.
>>
>> I believe Belchertown is in central Massachusetts which is about a 1 hour
>> drive from me in Northeast CT.
>>
>> I am still looking for a rotary table accessory, I wished I had bought
>> one when Legacy was still offering them but it was close to $300 back then.
>> I was only doing a few spindles / candlesticks at the time so it wasn’t a
>> definitive need. The search continues……
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>
>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hey Jeff,
>>
>> Welcome,
>> Yeah good old Wood Chuck, a few of us actually have them. I may inquire
>> for the drive.
>> So yeah I'm one looking for parts all the time and everytime I purchase
>> another machine its
>> too good to take parts from so then my search continues. . I robbed my
>> drive off my WoodChuck to
>> but on my 1200 LOM.
>> I figured the stench would be a bit tough turning that stuff, but my
>> sense of smell has been hampered by
>> covid I had in september  so now would be the time to turn it right. no
>> smeller lol.
>> Where is Belcher Town
>> Well very nice to meet you and hope to hear more from you.
>> Feel free to drop pix in from time to time to we'd all love to hear from
>> you.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 11:57 AM Jeff Richmond 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>
>>> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a
>>> Legacy Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and
>>> its capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your
>>> experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides.
>>>
>>> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
>>>
>>> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which
>>> were well seasoned (dry) 

Re: New member introduction

[Tim Ziegler]

Yes Sir and both happy to help you out Jeff.
We are a family here so any time.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 2:57 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Thanks Tim,
>
> I am happy for experience in any and all formats but a picture is worth a
> thousand words and a video is worth a thousand pictures. It sure helps
> knuckleheads like me peer through the fog. Lol
>
> Thanks Curt for your reply as well.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 30, 2021, at 6:59 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> thats what I explained too and added pics of my splice.
> thats why I actually bought the longer machine was to do longer parts
> but I have my pet 1200 and preferred milling in the shop and not where
> I have my other machine set up.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 12:16 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
>> Wow! this topic has taken off.
>>
>> I've made a split nut for the Legacy before.  I own two taps 5/8x4 one is
>> a home made ,( made out of a part of an old leadscrew). and the other is
>> one that I found on E-bay a while back.
>> The nut is not hard to make.
>>
>> As far as Bills leadscrew, I personally did not think it would work. and
>> I told him so. (He/Bill went a long way to prove me wrong!) ;-p ( Good for
>> him. and as he said that was a long time ago.)
>>
>> When I extended my Legacy, I just left the leadscrew the same, When and
>> if I need, I can always just flip the part over and cut the remaining wood
>> on the Flip-side. ;-p
>> To be serious, The only long jobs that I've done, I just needed the
>> length to hold the part. the cuts were only done in the mid section and the
>> ends were left square.
>> And when I did my sail boat mast, (in the archives, a 14' wooden mast.) I
>> just used the carriage for the travel and did not use the screw at all.
>> I had a plan "B" (but never used it.) I have a 5/8" round stock, I planed
>> to use it to bridge the gap difference , and just move the leadscrew when I
>> needed.  My acme screw is held in place with couplings, all I planed to do,
>> was slip the rod in between the couplings and add another to extend the
>> screw.
>>
>> So Jeff there is always more then one way to "skin a cat" so to speak. ;-)
>>
>> Have a good night.
>> talk to you and all tomorrow.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>> On Monday, November 29, 2021, 09:36:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
>> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks Bill, I wouldn’t have considered it previously but I should be
>> able make delrin replacements with this tool. I do not have metal milling
>> capabilities but plastic drilling/tapping should be doable.
>>
>> As a related question….Has anyone tried making or buying brass split nuts
>> verses the delrin?
>>
>> Pros/cons?
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 8:40 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> The taps are still out there
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/174986834390?hash=item28be0731d6:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a
>>
>>
>>
>> Because your only tapping plastic or at worst brass these cheap Chinese
>> taps will work
>>
>>
>>
>> I think it would be possible to make leadscrew nuts for the legacy on the
>> legacy
>>
>> I did that with the top hats but that is just my opinion
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:01 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>>
>>
>>
>> Curt or Bill may post to that comment about the acme nuts from Delrin.
>> They have taps and make their own.
>>
>> Stay tuned someone will jump in. LOM was making them but the last time I
>> asked Cindy from Legacy they
>>
>> where not making them but maybe things changed.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:14 PM Jeff Richmond 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Wow, there is a good amount of surface area but that must be also some
>> good epoxy. Thanks for sharing.
>>
>>
>>
>> I do have some concerns over what join method to use and how smooth the
>> transition is in this area since those delrin nuts are not as tough as I
>> hoped. (Should have gotten more spares)
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 6:52 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one
>> thought it would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and
>> both have never ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the
>> join. I have a background in 

Re: New member introduction

[Tim Ziegler]

Nice find just the same Denson, and great hearing from you.
Please join in on the coming discussion on Sanding on the LOM too.
I think that needs a post in it's self though.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 2:55 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 wrote:

> Hi gentlemen,
> Don’t know is this helps but I found acme 5/8-4 taps both left and right
> hand on eBay. They are a little pricey.
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> On Nov 30, 2021, at 5:59 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> So is someone trying to reach out to Joe?
> One of you guys that have been here since the beginning
> should have his contact info? Does Curt.
> At least you'd know all's well?
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:12 PM M.W.Foscue 
> wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>>
>>
>> Yep!   Thanks.
>>
>> I'm pretty the were one of the two I found.
>>
>> I did remember that they were out of New York.
>>
>> The may even be the one that Joe Biuno referred us to as well.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 11:03 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: RE: New member introduction
>>
>>
>>
>> Ok https://www.dependableacme.com/class/#screw
>>
>> Third one down I think this is it
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 2:50 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: New member introduction
>>
>>
>>
>> I and at least one other found it. It was not easy.
>>
>> I am unable to find it again - but I believe the other Group member that
>> sourced it was Joe Biuno - in New York.  Have not heard from him in a
>> L-o-o-o-o-o-o-n-n-n-g time.  Have to pray that he is ok - and just VERY
>> busy making custom drapery rods - and otherwise staying happy & HEALTHY!
>> Hi Joe!!
>>
>>
>>
>> I remember the "catch" was that it was made and sold in something like
>> 12' lengths.
>>
>> That meant you had to find a source hat would cut it to the length you
>> needed - still paying for the 12 feet even though all you needed was 8
>> feet.  The other issue was S
>>
>> You might end up paying an extra "over-size" charge - on top of an
>> already rather pricey piece of threaded rod!
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:56 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: RE: New member introduction
>>
>>
>>
>> I remember some one on the group finding legacy leadscrew threaded bar
>> somewhere but I cant remember look in the archived the post will be there
>> somewhere
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:17 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon
>> them, please send them over.
>>
>>
>>
>> I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra
>> length/weight are welcome.
>>
>>
>>
>>  I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer
>> continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that
>> spring project has to be started.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> OK I will dig a bit and come up with them.
>>
>> I finished the job and took it down until the next time.
>>
>> Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the
>> machine back
>>
>> to its home.
>>
>> Like I said I flipped my parts.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>>
>>
>> Pictures would be great, if you have them.
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Jeff,
>>
>> I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM
>> connectors
>>
>> to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller
>> stand modified
>>
>> with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put
>> holes in walls
>>
>> like other's did lol.
>>
>>
>>
>> I can try to find pix if you'd like???
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.

Re: Spindle drive

[M.W.Foscue]

Appears a concern is the sacrificing of depth of throw in the Z-axis.
 
Thinking a little outside of the box (Mill): 
How about mounting a piece of aluminum 90º angle stock to the outer faces of 
the X-axis and Y-axis rails - with one face of the 90º stock against the rail 
extrusion and the other face extending outward on the upper side.   Then mount 
the linear rails to the top of the 90º faces.
That should keep both the X and Y axis' down at a level close to the original 
standoff.  By putting the angle stock to the outside of the X-axis extrusions, 
you are preserving the original max diameter for the turning stock.
 
Just a thought - has anyone tried it?
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Nov 30, 2021 6:39 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Spindle drive
 
Thanks for asking this Denson,  
I also have a 900 model and would be very interested in understanding this 
“upgrade” better.

Jeff from Connecticut

On Nov 30, 2021, at 6:23 PM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:


Hi guys,I am wanting some advise.
Would someone be willing to start a new thread explaining the do’s and don’ts 
of putting linear rails and bearings to support the router carriage on both the 
x and y axis?
I know the general gist but am having trouble visualizing how the router is 
going to work after being raised several inches higher than normal. My LOM is a 
900.
Thanks in advance
Denson Ingram

Sent from Denson's iPhone

On Nov 30, 2021, at 5:50 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:


Oops, I guess better twice then not at all right Mac?We do a lot of shipping 
and receiving here for the business, 
and at times I order in picture frame material and some of the companies will 
ask about the lengths and most will just only ship like 9 ft. I think. 
Kind Regards, 
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330
 
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell






On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:09 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
Tim,
I posted a comment about what you just said below (~20 minutes ago) - prior to 
reading this comment from you.
You expressed my thought exactly!
Mac

-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:03 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Spindle drive
 
Then you'll have to show him how to add bearings BilllKind Regards, 
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330
 
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell





On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:28 PM Rick Hutley  wrote:
 
Thanks for the warning Bill
Rick

On Nov 29, 2021, at 11:35, bulke...@mmnet.com.au (mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au) 
wrote:


Be careful if your mill only has Delrin bushes for bearings you cant drive it 
too fast or you will burn out your bearings you need ball bearings in your 
headstock to drive it fast
 
Bill
 
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)  On Behalf Of Jack Terry
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 3:22 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)
Subject: Re: Spindle drive


 
Thanks for the photos of your spindle drive. I’ll start looking for a large 
pulley and motor. Your method appears less complicated than the one using a 
motor drive and gears. I don’t need a Mercedes just something to spin the work 
for sanding. Whatever I do it needs to be soon before we have a few nights in 
South Louisiana when the temperature falls below freezing and I loose my garage 
workshop  to plant that have to be protected from freezing. Also I noted the 
discussion about a live center tailstock. Do you have any problems with the 
work spinning on the Legacy tailstock or do you have a live center. 
Jack Terry

Covington La
Sent from my iPhone




On Nov 28, 2021, at 7:08 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:

 
Hello there Jack

 

The Legacy drive hub on your lathe is a good idea. One that I live by.  I was 
told by a friend of mine, to keep everything uniformed, that way you can go 
form one machine to another with out having to change anything.

 

The spindle drive motor I have is hinged and gravity holds the motor to the 
pulley. The drive motor dose not need to turn fast, 80 rpm is the fastest is 
needs to turn, The  pulley needs to have a slot cut into it, so it will mesh 
with the Legacy's headstock spindle. I 5/16" thumb screw is all that holds the 
to together. 

I made a pulley out of wood before I found this large one. You don't need 
anything fancy. I've made a number of 

different adaptors over the years, including a wooden Legacy adaptor a few 
years back.

 

I hope this helps?

 

C.A.G.


On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 07:24:52 PM EST, Jack Terry  wrote: 

 

 

Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a drive 
motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I ordered a 
new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with the hub for 
sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very useful. I 

Re: Spindle drive

[Jeff Richmond]

Thanks for asking this Denson, 

I also have a 900 model and would be very interested in understanding this 
“upgrade” better.

Jeff from Connecticut

> On Nov 30, 2021, at 6:23 PM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> I am wanting some advise.
> Would someone be willing to start a new thread explaining the do’s and don’ts 
> of putting linear rails and bearings to support the router carriage on both 
> the x and y axis?
> I know the general gist but am having trouble visualizing how the router is 
> going to work after being raised several inches higher than normal. My LOM is 
> a 900.
> Thanks in advance
> Denson Ingram
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2021, at 5:50 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Oops, I guess better twice then not at all right Mac?
>> We do a lot of shipping and receiving here for the business, 
>> and at times I order in picture frame material and some of the companies 
>> will 
>> ask about the lengths and most will just only ship like 9 ft. I think. 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:09 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>>> Tim,
>>> I posted a comment about what you just said below (~20 minutes ago) - prior 
>>> to reading this comment from you.
>>> You expressed my thought exactly!
>>> Mac
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 
>>> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:03 PM
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Then you'll have to show him how to add bearings Billl
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>  
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>  
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
 On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:28 PM Rick Hutley  wrote:
  
 Thanks for the warning Bill
 Rick
 
 On Nov 29, 2021, at 11:35, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Be careful if your mill only has Delrin bushes for bearings you cant drive 
 it too fast or you will burn out your bearings you need ball bearings in 
 your headstock to drive it fast
 
  
 
 Bill
 
  
 
 From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  On Behalf Of Jack Terry
 Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 3:22 AM
 To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Spindle drive
 
  
 
 Thanks for the photos of your spindle drive. I’ll start looking for a 
 large pulley and motor. Your method appears less complicated than the one 
 using a motor drive and gears. I don’t need a Mercedes just something to 
 spin the work for sanding. Whatever I do it needs to be soon before we 
 have a few nights in South Louisiana when the temperature falls below 
 freezing and I loose my garage workshop  to plant that have to be 
 protected from freezing. Also I noted the discussion about a live center 
 tailstock. Do you have any problems with the work spinning on the Legacy 
 tailstock or do you have a live center. 
 
 Jack Terry
 
 Covington La
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
 
 
 On Nov 28, 2021, at 7:08 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
  wrote:
 
  
 
 Hello there Jack
 
  
 
 The Legacy drive hub on your lathe is a good idea. One that I live by.  I 
 was told by a friend of mine, to keep everything uniformed, that way you 
 can go form one machine to another with out having to change anything.
 
  
 
 The spindle drive motor I have is hinged and gravity holds the motor to 
 the pulley. The drive motor dose not need to turn fast, 80 rpm is the 
 fastest is needs to turn, The  pulley needs to have a slot cut into it, so 
 it will mesh with the Legacy's headstock spindle. I 5/16" thumb screw is 
 all that holds the to together. 
 
 I made a pulley out of wood before I found this large one. You don't need 
 anything fancy. I've made a number of 
 
 different adaptors over the years, including a wooden Legacy adaptor a few 
 years back.
 
  
 
 I hope this helps?
 
  
 
 C.A.G.
 
 On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 07:24:52 PM EST, Jack Terry 
  wrote:
 
  
 
  
 
 Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a 
 drive motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. 
 I ordered a new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with 
 the hub for sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very 
 useful. I checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle 
 drive
 
  
 
 Jack Terry
 
 Covington La.
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
  
 
 --
 

Re: New member introduction

[Jeff Richmond]

Hi Tim,

I did reach out to Curt on the rotary table. Hopefully that will work out. I 
have seen a couple of other ( longer than my 900 )legacy machines for sale on 
Craigslist / Facebook Marketplace with accessories including one with a rotary 
table (a 1000EX for $875 and a 1500EX for $1200 ) but they didn’t want to part 
the accessories out separately and I don’t need another machine “yet”.

Regarding your legacy collection, I confess to the same addition though I stay 
more local and until this point, it has been focused on various other 
woodworking equipment. Possibly in the realm of “Tool Rescue, Restoration, and 
Adoption” since it is far more involved than just buying a new tool and I can 
never seem to part with them after. 路‍♂️

Jeff from Connecticut

> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:37 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Jeff, 
> 
> Yes I had to search for a rotary table too and found one on the Router Forum 
> I belong too.
> However trying to get any response on there is like pulling teeth. Like Curt 
> says "Crickets"
> I'd have to check the miles on that one. Wow. 
> But I sent my kids all the way to Texas for my first LOM, my Wood Chuck was 
> in my back door. 
> then Wisconsin for one, and finally South Dakota for the last one nice 1200 
> that I'm making into 
> a REVO HYBRID. I'll be posting more on that here in a while.  Its a shorten 
> up 1200 but will have 
> 2 different area's to turn. In front like the Revo and in the middle like the 
> basic LOM's are. 
> I put a drive on it today so its a work in progress. I had to rob peter to 
> pay paul on that one. 
> So enough on me and my bad habits lol. 
> We are looking forward to your progress and if I recall someone out there 
> does have a rotary table for sale. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 4:09 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
>> Hi Tim, 
>> 
>> Thanks for the welcome. I can relate to adopting the whole tool but the 
>> challenge ever increases trying to find another corner in the garage to put 
>> them. I will have to dig up some photos.
>> 
>> I believe Belchertown is in central Massachusetts which is about a 1 hour 
>> drive from me in Northeast CT. 
>> 
>> I am still looking for a rotary table accessory, I wished I had bought one 
>> when Legacy was still offering them but it was close to $300 back then. I 
>> was only doing a few spindles / candlesticks at the time so it wasn’t a 
>> definitive need. The search continues……
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>> 
>>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey Jeff, 
>>> 
>>> Welcome, 
>>> Yeah good old Wood Chuck, a few of us actually have them. I may inquire for 
>>> the drive. 
>>> So yeah I'm one looking for parts all the time and everytime I purchase 
>>> another machine its
>>> too good to take parts from so then my search continues. . I robbed my 
>>> drive off my WoodChuck to 
>>> but on my 1200 LOM.
>>> I figured the stench would be a bit tough turning that stuff, but my sense 
>>> of smell has been hampered by 
>>> covid I had in september  so now would be the time to turn it right. no 
>>> smeller lol. 
>>> Where is Belcher Town
>>> Well very nice to meet you and hope to hear more from you. 
>>> Feel free to drop pix in from time to time to we'd all love to hear from 
>>> you. 
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 11:57 AM Jeff Richmond  
>>> wrote:
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
 Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
 capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
 experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides. 
 
 To add a little input to the recent group conversations
 
 Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were 
 well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / 
 fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I 
 prefer to focus on.
 
 Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and 
 accessories for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need 
 another (at least that what I have to keep telling myself) but in my 
 searching, I did bump into this one if anyone wants to expand their 
 capability. It is a little older but it appears to have a variety of gears 
 as well as the manuals and instructional videos ( including a VHS player ) 
  Legacy ( Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools - by owner - sale 
 (craigslist.org)
 
 Jeff from Connecticut
 -- 
 You received this message because you are 

Re: New member introduction

[Jeff Richmond]

Thanks Tim, 

I am happy for experience in any and all formats but a picture is worth a 
thousand words and a video is worth a thousand pictures. It sure helps 
knuckleheads like me peer through the fog. Lol

Thanks Curt for your reply as well.

Jeff from Connecticut

> On Nov 30, 2021, at 6:59 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> thats what I explained too and added pics of my splice. 
> thats why I actually bought the longer machine was to do longer parts
> but I have my pet 1200 and preferred milling in the shop and not where
> I have my other machine set up.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 12:16 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
>> Wow! this topic has taken off. 
>> 
>> I've made a split nut for the Legacy before.  I own two taps 5/8x4 one is a 
>> home made ,( made out of a part of an old leadscrew). and the other is one 
>> that I found on E-bay a while back.
>> The nut is not hard to make.
>> 
>> As far as Bills leadscrew, I personally did not think it would work. and I 
>> told him so. (He/Bill went a long way to prove me wrong!) ;-p ( Good for 
>> him. and as he said that was a long time ago.)
>> 
>> When I extended my Legacy, I just left the leadscrew the same, When and if I 
>> need, I can always just flip the part over and cut the remaining wood on the 
>> Flip-side. ;-p
>> To be serious, The only long jobs that I've done, I just needed the length 
>> to hold the part. the cuts were only done in the mid section and the ends 
>> were left square. 
>> And when I did my sail boat mast, (in the archives, a 14' wooden mast.) I 
>> just used the carriage for the travel and did not use the screw at all.  
>> I had a plan "B" (but never used it.) I have a 5/8" round stock, I planed to 
>> use it to bridge the gap difference , and just move the leadscrew when I 
>> needed.  My acme screw is held in place with couplings, all I planed to do, 
>> was slip the rod in between the couplings and add another to extend the 
>> screw.
>> 
>> So Jeff there is always more then one way to "skin a cat" so to speak. ;-)
>> 
>> Have a good night.
>> talk to you and all tomorrow.
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> On Monday, November 29, 2021, 09:36:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks Bill, I wouldn’t have considered it previously but I should be able 
>> make delrin replacements with this tool. I do not have metal milling 
>> capabilities but plastic drilling/tapping should be doable.
>> 
>> As a related question….Has anyone tried making or buying brass split nuts 
>> verses the delrin? 
>> 
>> Pros/cons?
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>> 
>>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 8:40 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> The taps are still out there 
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/174986834390?hash=item28be0731d6:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Because your only tapping plastic or at worst brass these cheap Chinese taps 
>> will work
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I think it would be possible to make leadscrew nuts for the legacy on the 
>> legacy
>> 
>> I did that with the top hats but that is just my opinion
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:01 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New member introduction
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Curt or Bill may post to that comment about the acme nuts from Delrin. They 
>> have taps and make their own. 
>> 
>> Stay tuned someone will jump in. LOM was making them but the last time I 
>> asked Cindy from Legacy they 
>> 
>> where not making them but maybe things changed. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:14 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, there is a good amount of surface area but that must be also some good 
>> epoxy. Thanks for sharing.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I do have some concerns over what join method to use and how smooth the 
>> transition is in this area since those delrin nuts are not as tough as I 
>> hoped. (Should have gotten more spares)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 6:52 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one thought 
>> it would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and both have 
>> never ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the join. I have a 
>> background in engineering of over 20 years and we used this method where 
>> heat could not be used because of distortion problems.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au

Re: New member introduction

['Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

Hi gentlemen,
Don’t know is this helps but I found acme 5/8-4 taps both left and right hand 
on eBay. They are a little pricey.
Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2021, at 5:59 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> So is someone trying to reach out to Joe?
> One of you guys that have been here since the beginning 
> should have his contact info? Does Curt. 
> At least you'd know all's well?
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:12 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>> Bill,
>>  
>> Yep!   Thanks.
>> I'm pretty the were one of the two I found.
>> I did remember that they were out of New York.
>> The may even be the one that Joe Biuno referred us to as well.
>> Thanks.
>> Mac
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 11:03 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: RE: New member introduction
>> 
>>  
>> Ok https://www.dependableacme.com/class/#screw
>> 
>> Third one down I think this is it
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
>> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 2:50 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: New member introduction
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I and at least one other found it. It was not easy.
>> 
>> I am unable to find it again - but I believe the other Group member that 
>> sourced it was Joe Biuno - in New York.  Have not heard from him in a 
>> L-o-o-o-o-o-o-n-n-n-g time.  Have to pray that he is ok - and just VERY busy 
>> making custom drapery rods - and otherwise staying happy & HEALTHY!  Hi Joe!!
>>  
>> I remember the "catch" was that it was made and sold in something like 12' 
>> lengths.
>> That meant you had to find a source hat would cut it to the length you 
>> needed - still paying for the 12 feet even though all you needed was 8 feet. 
>>  The other issue was S
>> You might end up paying an extra "over-size" charge - on top of an already 
>> rather pricey piece of threaded rod!
>> Cheers!
>> Mac
>>  
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:56 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: RE: New member introduction
>> 
>>  
>> I remember some one on the group finding legacy leadscrew threaded bar 
>> somewhere but I cant remember look in the archived the post will be there 
>> somewhere
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
>> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:17 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New member introduction
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon them, 
>> please send them over. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra 
>> length/weight are welcome.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer 
>> continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that 
>> spring project has to be started.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> OK I will dig a bit and come up with them. 
>> 
>> I finished the job and took it down until the next time. 
>> 
>> Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the 
>> machine back 
>> 
>> to its home. 
>> 
>> Like I said I flipped my parts. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Pictures would be great, if you have them.
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hey Jeff, 
>> 
>> I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM 
>> connectors 
>> 
>> to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller 
>> stand modified 
>> 
>> with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put holes 
>> in walls 
>> 
>> like other's did lol. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I can try to find pix if you'd like???
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you 
>> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot 
>> plus on my 1200 worked great just
>> 

Re: New member introduction

[Jeff Richmond]

Hi Ron, 

I am over in Eastford, it’s in the northeast corner.

Jeff from Connecticut 

> On Nov 30, 2021, at 7:39 AM, 'Ronald Kirchoff' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Jeff
> Where in Connecticut are you from. I grew up in Farmington. 
> Ron (the math guy)
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeff Richmond 
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 29, 2021 9:10 pm
> Subject: Re: New member introduction
> 
> Yes, I am looking them over now, thank you. 
> 
> Jeff from Connecticut
> 
>>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 8:39 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Did the pix come through yet Jeff?
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:16 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
>> Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon them, 
>> please send them over. 
>> 
>> I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra 
>> length/weight are welcome.
>> 
>>  I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer 
>> continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that 
>> spring project has to be started.
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>> 
>>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> OK I will dig a bit and come up with them. 
>>> I finished the job and took it down until the next time. 
>>> Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the 
>>> machine back 
>>> to its home. 
>>> Like I said I flipped my parts. 
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> Pictures would be great, if you have them.
>>> 
>>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>> 
 On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
 
 
 Hey Jeff, 
 I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM 
 connectors 
 to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller 
 stand modified 
 with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put 
 holes in walls 
 like other's did lol. 
 
 I can try to find pix if you'd like???
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 Timothy J. Ziegler
 Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
 14171 160th Ave.
 Foreston MN 56330
 
 320-294-5798 shop
 320-630-2243 cell
 
 
 On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond  
 wrote:
 Interesting. 
 
 When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you 
 installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
 
 Jeff from Connecticut 
 
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 
> foot plus on my 1200 worked great just
> needed more supports. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> Hello again Jeff
> 
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take 
> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and 
> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock. 
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live 
> center.
> Then latter I extended my rails.
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 
> 
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some 
> snow coming down today. 
> 
> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 
> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move 
> around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their 
> compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what 
> generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost 
> every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to 
> offer.
> 
> Jeff from Connecticut 
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
> 
> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt 
>   I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good 
> filtered mask is a must.  
> The Wood Chuck in the 

Re: New member introduction

[Tim Ziegler]

Good morning Ron the math guy.
You're relatively new to the group to right?
If so, welcome and we can all use a math teacher especially me.
Its great to get some new blood in for conversation and knowledge
look forward to hearing more from you both.


Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 6:39 AM 'Ronald Kirchoff' via Legacy Ornamental
Mills  wrote:

> Hi Jeff
> Where in Connecticut are you from. I grew up in Farmington.
> Ron (the math guy)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeff Richmond 
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 29, 2021 9:10 pm
> Subject: Re: New member introduction
>
> Yes, I am looking them over now, thank you. 
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 8:39 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Did the pix come through yet Jeff?
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:16 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon
> them, please send them over.
>
> I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra
> length/weight are welcome.
>
>  I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer
> continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that
> spring project has to be started.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> OK I will dig a bit and come up with them.
> I finished the job and took it down until the next time.
> Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the
> machine back
> to its home.
> Like I said I flipped my parts.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Pictures would be great, if you have them.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Hey Jeff,
> I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM
> connectors
> to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller
> stand modified
> with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put
> holes in walls
> like other's did lol.
>
> I can try to find pix if you'd like???
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Interesting.
>
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
> needed more supports.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello again Jeff
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
> Then latter I extended my rails.
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.
>
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some
> snow coming down today.
>
> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock
> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move
> around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their
> compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what
> generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost
> every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to
> offer.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt
>   I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good
> filtered mask is a must.
> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by
> the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with
> a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped 

Re: New member introduction

['Ronald Kirchoff' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

Hi JeffWhere in Connecticut are you from. I grew up in Farmington. Ron (the 
math guy)


-Original Message-
From: Jeff Richmond 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, Nov 29, 2021 9:10 pm
Subject: Re: New member introduction

Yes, I am looking them over now, thank you. 

Jeff from Connecticut

On Nov 29, 2021, at 8:39 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:



Did the pix come through yet Jeff?
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:16 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon them, 
please send them over. 
I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra length/weight 
are welcome.
 I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer 
continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that spring 
project has to be started.
Jeff from Connecticut

On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:



OK I will dig a bit and come up with them. I finished the job and took it down 
until the next time. Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time 
and push the machine back to its home. Like I said I flipped my parts. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

Hi Tim,
Pictures would be great, if you have them.

Jeff from Connecticut

On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:



Hey Jeff, I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM 
connectors to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a 
roller stand modified with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did 
not have to put holes in walls like other's did lol. 
I can try to find pix if you'd like???
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

Interesting. 
When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you installing 
a longer one or joining them in some manner?

Jeff from Connecticut 

On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:



Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot 
plus on my 1200 worked great justneeded more supports. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

 Hello again Jeff
Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. I small hole in the wall in my 
garage did it first, to hold my live center.Then latter I extended my 
rails.Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 
When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
C.A.G.
On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
 wrote:  
 
 Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 
I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 900) 
but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. I am 
not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility with 
the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call these 
since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while and 
came out with yet another model / package to offer.
Jeff from Connecticut 


On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  
wrote:




Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   I 
don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a must.  
  The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 2 
That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in the big 
bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as we call 
them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still use my 
Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications when the 
center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have done 15 foot 
posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down to roping a tooth 
pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept "limitations" Mike OK
  On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
  
 Hello Everyone, 
  I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
experiences and helpful 

Re: Last Chance: Woodchuck

[Tim Ziegler]

I think Bill's teasting you Curt lol
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 12:40 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Sorry Bill, Not my call to make.
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 01:37:05 AM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Keep the woodchuck all I want is the controller off it lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 4:54 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Last Chance: Woodchuck
>
>
>
> Hi Curt,
>
>
>
> Where's the Road Trip taking you?
>
> I'll bet to pick up that Woodchuck for Bill - Down Under!  LoL!   He could
> only wish! (Sorry, Bill.)
>
> I bet it's for Mike Pung.
>
> Very nice of you if that's the case.
>
>
>
> Safe travels.
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Nov 30, 2021 12:38 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Last Chance: Woodchuck
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello Guys. (Just got home.)
>
>
>
> Well, I looks like Im going to make a road trip Friday!
>
>
>
> Wish me luck. Another crazy adventure!  ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 29, 2021, 04:19:08 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> thanks Rick
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:18 PM Rick Waters  wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> I already promised it to Mike a few hours ago. Sorry. It went quickly.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:07 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> Hey Rick do you still have this?
>
> I may figure out a way to come get it. I'm building another machine and
> several items of this
>
> also would work on my WoodChuck.
>
> I'd like you to hold on until I get back to you if possible.
>
> Thanks
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 2:48 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> I didn’t see Ricks original message come through and it is much too far
> for me to even consider but that sure is generous for a lucky user group
> member. Pay it forward.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 12:04 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:
>
> Sent you an email to pick it up Friday.  Hope it is still available
>
> Mike OK
>
> On 11/29/2021 10:31 AM, Rick Waters wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> The time has finally come that the woodchuck has to go. It's taking up too
> much room in the garage and I never actually used it. It's been sitting
> there for about 3 to 5 years and it comes with everything you see in the
> pictures. If anybody wants to come down to Naperville Illinois they can
> have it for free. I will not be able to meet you anywhere with it, or truck
> it across the country. And I'm just generally unwilling to ship it. But if
> you want it it's yours.
>
>
>
> Pictures:
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/74wg2kigsu01og0/AABmhLV_BbnqmlwkaL91iKGfa?dl=0
>
>
>
> Rick
>
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Re: Last Chance: Woodchuck

[Tim Ziegler]

Pretty sure we both spoke up on that one Bill lol
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 12:29 AM  wrote:

> Keep the woodchuck all I want is the controller off it lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 4:54 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Last Chance: Woodchuck
>
>
>
> Hi Curt,
>
>
>
> Where's the Road Trip taking you?
>
> I'll bet to pick up that Woodchuck for Bill - Down Under!  LoL!   He could
> only wish! (Sorry, Bill.)
>
> I bet it's for Mike Pung.
>
> Very nice of you if that's the case.
>
>
>
> Safe travels.
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Nov 30, 2021 12:38 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Last Chance: Woodchuck
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello Guys. (Just got home.)
>
>
>
> Well, I looks like Im going to make a road trip Friday!
>
>
>
> Wish me luck. Another crazy adventure!  ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 29, 2021, 04:19:08 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> thanks Rick
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:18 PM Rick Waters  wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> I already promised it to Mike a few hours ago. Sorry. It went quickly.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:07 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> Hey Rick do you still have this?
>
> I may figure out a way to come get it. I'm building another machine and
> several items of this
>
> also would work on my WoodChuck.
>
> I'd like you to hold on until I get back to you if possible.
>
> Thanks
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 2:48 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> I didn’t see Ricks original message come through and it is much too far
> for me to even consider but that sure is generous for a lucky user group
> member. Pay it forward.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 12:04 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:
>
> Sent you an email to pick it up Friday.  Hope it is still available
>
> Mike OK
>
> On 11/29/2021 10:31 AM, Rick Waters wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> The time has finally come that the woodchuck has to go. It's taking up too
> much room in the garage and I never actually used it. It's been sitting
> there for about 3 to 5 years and it comes with everything you see in the
> pictures. If anybody wants to come down to Naperville Illinois they can
> have it for free. I will not be able to meet you anywhere with it, or truck
> it across the country. And I'm just generally unwilling to ship it. But if
> you want it it's yours.
>
>
>
> Pictures:
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/74wg2kigsu01og0/AABmhLV_BbnqmlwkaL91iKGfa?dl=0
>
>
>
> Rick
>
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Re: Last Chance: Woodchuck

[Tim Ziegler]


Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 12:19 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> HI Mac.
> You are right in #2 . (Mike asked me to pick it up.) so off to Chicago
> land, I go. Friday.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 01:02:27 AM EST, M.W.Foscue <
> mwfos...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Curt,
>
>
>
> Where's the Road Trip taking you?
>
> I'll bet to pick up that Woodchuck for Bill - Down Under!  LoL!   He could
> only wish! (Sorry, Bill.)
>
> I bet it's for Mike Pung.
>
> Very nice of you if that's the case.
>
>
>
> Safe travels.
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Nov 30, 2021 12:38 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Last Chance: Woodchuck
>
>
>
> Hello Guys. (Just got home.)
>
> Well, I looks like Im going to make a road trip Friday!
>
> Wish me luck. Another crazy adventure!  ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, November 29, 2021, 04:19:08 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> thanks Rick
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:18 PM Rick Waters  wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
> I already promised it to Mike a few hours ago. Sorry. It went quickly.
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:07 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> Hey Rick do you still have this?
> I may figure out a way to come get it. I'm building another machine and
> several items of this
> also would work on my WoodChuck.
> I'd like you to hold on until I get back to you if possible.
> Thanks
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 2:48 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> I didn’t see Ricks original message come through and it is much too far
> for me to even consider but that sure is generous for a lucky user group
> member. Pay it forward.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 12:04 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:
>
> Sent you an email to pick it up Friday.  Hope it is still available
>
> Mike OK
> On 11/29/2021 10:31 AM, Rick Waters wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
> The time has finally come that the woodchuck has to go. It's taking up too
> much room in the garage and I never actually used it. It's been sitting
> there for about 3 to 5 years and it comes with everything you see in the
> pictures. If anybody wants to come down to Naperville Illinois they can
> have it for free. I will not be able to meet you anywhere with it, or truck
> it across the country. And I'm just generally unwilling to ship it. But if
> you want it it's yours.
>
> Pictures:
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/74wg2kigsu01og0/AABmhLV_BbnqmlwkaL91iKGfa?dl=0
>
> Rick
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Re: New member introduction

[Tim Ziegler]

thats what I explained too and added pics of my splice.
thats why I actually bought the longer machine was to do longer parts
but I have my pet 1200 and preferred milling in the shop and not where
I have my other machine set up.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 12:16 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Wow! this topic has taken off.
>
> I've made a split nut for the Legacy before.  I own two taps 5/8x4 one is
> a home made ,( made out of a part of an old leadscrew). and the other is
> one that I found on E-bay a while back.
> The nut is not hard to make.
>
> As far as Bills leadscrew, I personally did not think it would work. and I
> told him so. (He/Bill went a long way to prove me wrong!) ;-p ( Good for
> him. and as he said that was a long time ago.)
>
> When I extended my Legacy, I just left the leadscrew the same, When and if
> I need, I can always just flip the part over and cut the remaining wood on
> the Flip-side. ;-p
> To be serious, The only long jobs that I've done, I just needed the length
> to hold the part. the cuts were only done in the mid section and the ends
> were left square.
> And when I did my sail boat mast, (in the archives, a 14' wooden mast.) I
> just used the carriage for the travel and did not use the screw at all.
> I had a plan "B" (but never used it.) I have a 5/8" round stock, I planed
> to use it to bridge the gap difference , and just move the leadscrew when I
> needed.  My acme screw is held in place with couplings, all I planed to do,
> was slip the rod in between the couplings and add another to extend the
> screw.
>
> So Jeff there is always more then one way to "skin a cat" so to speak. ;-)
>
> Have a good night.
> talk to you and all tomorrow.
>
> C.A.G.
> On Monday, November 29, 2021, 09:36:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Bill, I wouldn’t have considered it previously but I should be able
> make delrin replacements with this tool. I do not have metal milling
> capabilities but plastic drilling/tapping should be doable.
>
> As a related question….Has anyone tried making or buying brass split nuts
> verses the delrin?
>
> Pros/cons?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 8:40 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> The taps are still out there
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/174986834390?hash=item28be0731d6:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a
>
>
>
> Because your only tapping plastic or at worst brass these cheap Chinese
> taps will work
>
>
>
> I think it would be possible to make leadscrew nuts for the legacy on the
> legacy
>
> I did that with the top hats but that is just my opinion
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:01 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Curt or Bill may post to that comment about the acme nuts from Delrin.
> They have taps and make their own.
>
> Stay tuned someone will jump in. LOM was making them but the last time I
> asked Cindy from Legacy they
>
> where not making them but maybe things changed.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:14 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Wow, there is a good amount of surface area but that must be also some
> good epoxy. Thanks for sharing.
>
>
>
> I do have some concerns over what join method to use and how smooth the
> transition is in this area since those delrin nuts are not as tough as I
> hoped. (Should have gotten more spares)
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 6:52 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one
> thought it would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and
> both have never ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the
> join. I have a background in engineering of over 20 years and we used this
> method where heat could not be used because of distortion problems.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:27 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: New member introduction
>
>
>
> No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them
> togeather with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the
> joint is as strong as if I welded it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond

Re: Last Chance: Woodchuck

[Tim Ziegler]


Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 11:54 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Hi Curt,
>
>
>
> Where's the Road Trip taking you?
>
> I'll bet to pick up that Woodchuck for Bill - Down Under!  LoL!   He could
> only wish! (Sorry, Bill.)
>
> I bet it's for Mike Pung.
>
> Very nice of you if that's the case.
>
>
>
> Safe travels.
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Nov 30, 2021 12:38 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Last Chance: Woodchuck
>
>
>
> Hello Guys. (Just got home.)
>
> Well, I looks like Im going to make a road trip Friday!
>
> Wish me luck. Another crazy adventure!  ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, November 29, 2021, 04:19:08 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> thanks Rick
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:18 PM Rick Waters  wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
> I already promised it to Mike a few hours ago. Sorry. It went quickly.
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:07 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> Hey Rick do you still have this?
> I may figure out a way to come get it. I'm building another machine and
> several items of this
> also would work on my WoodChuck.
> I'd like you to hold on until I get back to you if possible.
> Thanks
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 2:48 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> I didn’t see Ricks original message come through and it is much too far
> for me to even consider but that sure is generous for a lucky user group
> member. Pay it forward.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 12:04 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:
>
> Sent you an email to pick it up Friday.  Hope it is still available
>
> Mike OK
> On 11/29/2021 10:31 AM, Rick Waters wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
> The time has finally come that the woodchuck has to go. It's taking up too
> much room in the garage and I never actually used it. It's been sitting
> there for about 3 to 5 years and it comes with everything you see in the
> pictures. If anybody wants to come down to Naperville Illinois they can
> have it for free. I will not be able to meet you anywhere with it, or truck
> it across the country. And I'm just generally unwilling to ship it. But if
> you want it it's yours.
>
> Pictures:
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/74wg2kigsu01og0/AABmhLV_BbnqmlwkaL91iKGfa?dl=0
>
> Rick
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Re: Last Chance: Woodchuck

[Tim Ziegler]

You guys beat me to the punch by about 5 minutes. lol.  (Mac I tried)
Have a good trip Curt.

Pic's Pic's
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 11:38 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Guys. (Just got home.)
>
> Well, I looks like Im going to make a road trip Friday!
>
> Wish me luck. Another crazy adventure!  ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, November 29, 2021, 04:19:08 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> thanks Rick
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:18 PM Rick Waters  wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
> I already promised it to Mike a few hours ago. Sorry. It went quickly.
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:07 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> Hey Rick do you still have this?
> I may figure out a way to come get it. I'm building another machine and
> several items of this
> also would work on my WoodChuck.
> I'd like you to hold on until I get back to you if possible.
> Thanks
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 2:48 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> I didn’t see Ricks original message come through and it is much too far
> for me to even consider but that sure is generous for a lucky user group
> member. Pay it forward.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 12:04 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Sent you an email to pick it up Friday.  Hope it is still available
>
> Mike OK
> On 11/29/2021 10:31 AM, Rick Waters wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
> The time has finally come that the woodchuck has to go. It's taking up too
> much room in the garage and I never actually used it. It's been sitting
> there for about 3 to 5 years and it comes with everything you see in the
> pictures. If anybody wants to come down to Naperville Illinois they can
> have it for free. I will not be able to meet you anywhere with it, or truck
> it across the country. And I'm just generally unwilling to ship it. But if
> you want it it's yours.
>
> Pictures:
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/74wg2kigsu01og0/AABmhLV_BbnqmlwkaL91iKGfa?dl=0
>
> Rick
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Re: Spindle drive

[Tim Ziegler]

Well close up pics or video might help but I'm not a video guy and all my
video
or picture helpers are either grown up and gone or in college but at least
to see
it can be done.
Wish the LOM group would have made the plates interchangeable between
models.
then we would not have had to re-invent the wheel. lol
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 11:36 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Tim,
>
> Good info.
>
> Thanks for sharing.
>
> I am sure others in our Group will find your info useful.
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 6:56 AM
> To: LOM Group 
> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>
>
> Hey Mac,
>
> Yes I had my Brother do it for me.
> I could have used a hole saw but you and I know how that
> can turn out to look like. I had some flat stock but was not
> has heavy has I wanted. Was looking for 3/16 Ted (my Brother) had
> 1/4 so we went with that. I'm still going to cut the angle like LOM did
> I just wanted to get it up and running last night.
> I still had to drill and slot the actual mounting hole to attach it to the
> LOM
> as the pattern I used from the 1500 was different of course.
> I just drilled 2 holes and then proceeded to tip the piece in to the bit
> to
> slot it so to speak and then cleaned it up.
> Cost? I'll laser engrave something for him. :)
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 11:19 PM M.W.Foscue 
> wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>>
>> Very nice.
>>
>> How did you get that very clean looking large hole in the steel plate?
>>
>> Did your brother do it for you?
>>
>> Where did you get the steel plate?   Cost?
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Nov 28, 2021 10:51 PM
>> To: LOM Group 
>> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>>
>>
>> Here is what I just did today. for my HYBRID LOM
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 6:24 PM Jack Terry  wrote:
>>
>>> Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a
>>> drive motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I
>>> ordered a new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with
>>> the hub for sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very
>>> useful. I checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle
>>> drive
>>>
>>> Jack Terry
>>> Covington La.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: New member introduction

[Tim Ziegler]

So is someone trying to reach out to Joe?
One of you guys that have been here since the beginning
should have his contact info? Does Curt.
At least you'd know all's well?
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:12 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Bill,
>
>
>
> Yep!   Thanks.
>
> I'm pretty the were one of the two I found.
>
> I did remember that they were out of New York.
>
> The may even be the one that Joe Biuno referred us to as well.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 11:03 PM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Ok https://www.dependableacme.com/class/#screw
>
> Third one down I think this is it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 2:50 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: New member introduction
>
>
>
> I and at least one other found it. It was not easy.
>
> I am unable to find it again - but I believe the other Group member that
> sourced it was Joe Biuno - in New York.  Have not heard from him in a
> L-o-o-o-o-o-o-n-n-n-g time.  Have to pray that he is ok - and just VERY
> busy making custom drapery rods - and otherwise staying happy & HEALTHY!
> Hi Joe!!
>
>
>
> I remember the "catch" was that it was made and sold in something like 12'
> lengths.
>
> That meant you had to find a source hat would cut it to the length you
> needed - still paying for the 12 feet even though all you needed was 8
> feet.  The other issue was S
>
> You might end up paying an extra "over-size" charge - on top of an already
> rather pricey piece of threaded rod!
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:56 PM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: New member introduction
>
>
>
> I remember some one on the group finding legacy leadscrew threaded bar
> somewhere but I cant remember look in the archived the post will be there
> somewhere
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:17 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon
> them, please send them over.
>
>
>
> I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra
> length/weight are welcome.
>
>
>
>  I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer
> continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that
> spring project has to be started.
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>
>
> OK I will dig a bit and come up with them.
>
> I finished the job and took it down until the next time.
>
> Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the
> machine back
>
> to its home.
>
> Like I said I flipped my parts.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
>
>
> Pictures would be great, if you have them.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hey Jeff,
>
> I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM
> connectors
>
> to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller
> stand modified
>
> with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put
> holes in walls
>
> like other's did lol.
>
>
>
> I can try to find pix if you'd like???
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Interesting.
>
>
>
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>
>
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
>
> needed more supports.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello again Jeff
>
>
>
> 

Re: New member introduction

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Bill thanks for that I can even check that out for future endeavors.
You never know those threaded rods are good for a lot of things.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:03 PM  wrote:

> Ok https://www.dependableacme.com/class/#screw
>
> Third one down I think this is it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 2:50 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: New member introduction
>
>
>
> I and at least one other found it. It was not easy.
>
> I am unable to find it again - but I believe the other Group member that
> sourced it was Joe Biuno - in New York.  Have not heard from him in a
> L-o-o-o-o-o-o-n-n-n-g time.  Have to pray that he is ok - and just VERY
> busy making custom drapery rods - and otherwise staying happy & HEALTHY!
> Hi Joe!!
>
>
>
> I remember the "catch" was that it was made and sold in something like 12'
> lengths.
>
> That meant you had to find a source hat would cut it to the length you
> needed - still paying for the 12 feet even though all you needed was 8
> feet.  The other issue was S
>
> You might end up paying an extra "over-size" charge - on top of an already
> rather pricey piece of threaded rod!
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:56 PM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: New member introduction
>
>
>
> I remember some one on the group finding legacy leadscrew threaded bar
> somewhere but I cant remember look in the archived the post will be there
> somewhere
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:17 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon
> them, please send them over.
>
>
>
> I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra
> length/weight are welcome.
>
>
>
>  I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer
> continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that
> spring project has to be started.
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>
>
> OK I will dig a bit and come up with them.
>
> I finished the job and took it down until the next time.
>
> Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the
> machine back
>
> to its home.
>
> Like I said I flipped my parts.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
>
>
> Pictures would be great, if you have them.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hey Jeff,
>
> I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM
> connectors
>
> to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller
> stand modified
>
> with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put
> holes in walls
>
> like other's did lol.
>
>
>
> I can try to find pix if you'd like???
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Interesting.
>
>
>
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>
>
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
>
> needed more supports.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello again Jeff
>
>
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
>
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
>
> Then latter I extended my rails.
>
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.
>
>
>
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>
>
>
> 

Re: New member introduction

[Tim Ziegler]

Yeah I have to admit trying to find things in the archives is a bit
challenging.
I usually as for it to be resent. lol.

So shippers will not ship that long period.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 9:49 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> I and at least one other found it. It was not easy.
>
> I am unable to find it again - but I believe the other Group member that
> sourced it was Joe Biuno - in New York.  Have not heard from him in a
> L-o-o-o-o-o-o-n-n-n-g time.  Have to pray that he is ok - and just VERY
> busy making custom drapery rods - and otherwise staying happy & HEALTHY!
> Hi Joe!!
>
>
>
> I remember the "catch" was that it was made and sold in something like 12'
> lengths.
>
> That meant you had to find a source hat would cut it to the length you
> needed - still paying for the 12 feet even though all you needed was 8
> feet.  The other issue was S
>
> You might end up paying an extra "over-size" charge - on top of an already
> rather pricey piece of threaded rod!
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:56 PM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: New member introduction
>
>
>
> I remember some one on the group finding legacy leadscrew threaded bar
> somewhere but I cant remember look in the archived the post will be there
> somewhere
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:17 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon
> them, please send them over.
>
>
>
> I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra
> length/weight are welcome.
>
>
>
>  I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer
> continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that
> spring project has to be started.
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>
>
> OK I will dig a bit and come up with them.
>
> I finished the job and took it down until the next time.
>
> Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the
> machine back
>
> to its home.
>
> Like I said I flipped my parts.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
>
>
> Pictures would be great, if you have them.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hey Jeff,
>
> I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM
> connectors
>
> to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller
> stand modified
>
> with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put
> holes in walls
>
> like other's did lol.
>
>
>
> I can try to find pix if you'd like???
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Interesting.
>
>
>
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>
>
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
>
> needed more supports.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello again Jeff
>
>
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
>
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
>
> Then latter I extended my rails.
>
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.
>
>
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> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
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>
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some
> snow coming down today.
>
>
>
> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock
> 900) but a 15’ post must be a 

Re: Spindle drive

[Tim Ziegler]

Mac you made a great point. I was actually just talking to Mike Pung about
that very subject.
It would be great to have a recipe to the details for that process. Also
just changing bearings.
I changed mine out on my 1200 a few months ago and yes it went fine
because of my past back
ground, diy ect but not everyone has that knowledge. Good call.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 9:33 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Hi guys (and gals/Brigitte),
>
>
>
> Tim & Bill - you bring up a good point.
>
> The LOM headstock with the ball bearing spindle support is very nice.  Too
> bad Legacy doesn't still produce them.
>
> Has anyone ever posted the "recipe" for how one goes about replacing their
> headstock's plastic bearing sleeve with a ball bearing one?
>
> By that I mean - from start to finish - including the very pieces you
> order (and from whom you get them) and how to cut, drill, tap, etc. in
> order to install the new ball bearing spindle support.
>
> Just a thought  - since we have a fair number of new Group members and
> some may want to "upgrade" their spindle.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From:
>
> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:56 PM
>
> To:
>
> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>
>
>
> I tend to agree with you on that one. Kind Regards, Timothy J.
> ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN
> 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:55 PM wrote:Ask curt to show his he put nice
> bearings on his to replace the Delrin ones, I haven’t done that yet I just
> make my own replacement ones as I need them. keeping them lubricated with
> dry lube with every job helps a lot too, legacys ball bearing headstocks
> were good I had them on my first mill before it burnt down that’s another
> part I would buy if it came up.
>
> You put a heavy 6 or 8 ft pole in your mill and that’s a lot of pressure
> pushing down on those soft Delrin bushes they need to be nice and slippery
> or better still ball bearings but that is just my opinion of course.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:03 PM
>
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)
>
> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>
>
>
> Then you'll have to show him how to add bearings Billl
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:28 PM Rick Hutley wrote:
>
> Thanks for the warning Bill
>
> Rick
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>
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 11:35, bulke...@mmnet.com.au (mailto:
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au) wrote:
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>
>
> Be careful if your mill only has Delrin bushes for bearings you cant drive
> it too fast or you will burn out your bearings you need ball bearings in
> your headstock to drive it fast
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) On Behalf Of Jack Terry
>
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 3:22 AM
>
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)
>
> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>
>
>
> Thanks for the photos of your spindle drive. I’ll start looking for a
> large pulley and motor. Your method appears less complicated than the one
> using a motor drive and gears. I don’t need a Mercedes just something to
> spin the work for sanding. Whatever I do it needs to be soon before we have
> a few nights in South Louisiana when the temperature falls below freezing
> and I loose my garage workshop  to plant that have to be protected from
> freezing. Also I noted the discussion about a live center tailstock. Do you
> have any problems with the work spinning on the Legacy tailstock or do you
> have a live center.
>
> Jack Terry
>
> Covington La
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 7:08 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello there Jack
>
>
>
> The Legacy drive hub on your lathe is a good idea. One that I live by.  I
> was told by a friend of mine, to keep everything uniformed, that way you
> can go form one machine to another with out having to change anything.
>
>
>
> The spindle drive motor I have is hinged and gravity holds the motor to
> the pulley. The drive motor dose not need to turn fast, 80 rpm is the
> fastest is needs to turn, The  pulley needs to have a slot cut into it, so
> it will mesh with the Legacy's headstock spindle. I 5/16" thumb screw is
> all that holds the to together.
>
> I made a pulley out of wood before I found this large one. You don't need
> anything fancy. I've made a number of
>
>