RE: Here is a very nice Deal for the right person. Legacy 1500 +

2023-10-29 Thread bulkeley 
There you go Dan grab it you would have it all then that is a very good deal 
with all those extras 

 

Bill

 

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Sent: Monday, October 30, 2023 12:25 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Here is a very nice Deal for the right person. Legacy 1500 +

 

OH GOOD GRIEF!   That's right near my daughter and son.

DanK

 

 

On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 8:45:50 PM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
  wrote:

Here you go Tim buy this one to sell parts the motor controller is sold I will 
take it straight away 

 

Bill

 

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Sent: Monday, October 30, 2023 11:23 AM
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Subject: Here is a very nice Deal for the right person. Legacy 1500 +

 

1500 plus Z axis, and a lot of extra's 

Most parts are still in the boxes.

Wow!

 

C.A.G.

 

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Re: LOM Purchase

2023-10-29 Thread Tim Ziegler 
For all you that purchased parts from me, I will be private emailing you
tracking information and shipping costs early this week.
Preferred to be covered before shipping.
I have everyones packaged up weighed and measured. and ready to get labels
created.
Stay tuned for your private email and information for your particular
items.
I will then post anything I have left for anyone interested. Thanks  for
all who participated in this endeavor.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 11:11 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Good for you Tim.
>
> wish you the best of luck. ;-)
>
> Santa Tim is coming to Town!
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 08:11:45 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Great news: I am going to pick the mill up tomorrow afternoon. Those that
> have spoken up for
> parts and pieces will need to work on payment of parts etc... once I get
> it home, then I will need
> addresses to get your shipping costs. The shipping can be paid separate as
> I will take a little time
> to sort out and disassemble the unit.  I can do Venmo, PayPal, or Card
> whatever works the best for everyone.
> Stay tuned and I will let you know where we are at. I will have the router
> and bits possibly available too.
> I will also know more tomorrow and will provide you all with information
> on your purchases privately.
> Will talk soon.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 10:07 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Sorry Jeff, your message was marked SPAM. (no idea why?) So I am
> re-posting this to the group/Tim's LOM .
> C.A.G.
>
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> If it works out, I would be interested in the vertical vise. (From the
> left side under the machine, it’s the 2nd item going to the right)
>
> I can’t see what’s else is in the box but maybe a rotary table drive shaft?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 10:35:04 PM EDT, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> If it works out, I would be interested in the vertical vise. (From the
> left side under the machine, it’s the 2nd item going to the right)
>
> I can’t see what’s else is in the box but maybe a rotary table drive shaft?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 15, 2023, at 10:28 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Hey, I have legacy very close to me I would buy if I can part out
> and sell the parts. Anyone interested in anything on it?
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/7041390955892736/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A121e9fe7-94d8-4ea9-b548-a4b6617ea9a3
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
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Re: Here is a very nice Deal for the right person. Legacy 1500 +

2023-10-29 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com 
OH GOOD GRIEF!   That's right near my daughter and son.
DanK


On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 8:45:50 PM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:

> Here you go Tim buy this one to sell parts the motor controller is sold I 
> will take it straight away 
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
> *Sent:* Monday, October 30, 2023 11:23 AM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* Here is a very nice Deal for the right person. Legacy 1500 +
>
>  
>
> 1500 plus Z axis, and a lot of extra's 
>
> Most parts are still in the boxes.
>
> Wow!
>
>  
>
> C.A.G.
>
>  
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1006397173945750/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A5fff05f9-33b2-47e2-99f2-95f865fe2425
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Re: Woodturning Newsletter - What You Don't Know

2023-10-29 Thread Tim Ziegler 
for sure

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
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On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 1:22 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Guys!  Just work up. (its 1:56pm.) Long night at work I got home
> form a 15hr day at 5:30am.
>
> I only state this due to me coming to this topic late...
>
> I have not seen this video. (Nice)  But for the Group We can  use these
> disks in the same way as Ron Brown shown. But We can also use them in
> another way.
> By making a simple jig to mount onto these type of disks, We can lock the
> plate together with the spindle so that we can move the part separately
> form the Legacy gearing system.  Meaning By using a indexing system
> together with the gears of the Legacy, Can/Will allow you to do more
> complex ropes easer with out all this carriage movement as for the
> offsetting of each rope.
>
> The idea is a modification form Mike P.'s carriage indexing video.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw (Mike's video)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYb-fe4GS8M (My indexing Mod.)
> NOTE: Same but different concepts, Mike uses the acme screw for the
> indexing, I am using the gears, Not trying to get anyone confused, so I
> need to clarify things.
>
> No onto the "Brown's best"  Indexing plates.  By making a locking method
> for the 1-8" headstock of the Legacy, you can lock his indexing plates onto
> the Legacy, Then you can lock the part onto the plate, by removing the
> indexing pin will allow you to index the part while leaving the gears
> locked into place. This makes it easer for indexing flutes, and or roping.
> (depending on your needs.)
>
> NOTE: on my roping indexing plates are made to be simple, 2,3,4,6,8.
> indexes so I do not have to count holes, My goal was to make things more
> simple, But using a more adaptable indexing plate (like these Brown
> indexing plates) will allow more possibility's,  (similar to Dan's
> checkering)
>
> Have a good day everyone.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 10:56:33 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yup a bushing and you're all set.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 3:34 PM  wrote:
>
> There are index plates on ebay too that could be made to fit the legacy
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/361588846468
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 29, 2023 5:37 AM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: Woodturning Newsletter - What You Don't Know
>
>
>
> Hey Curt I could post it again. It really never drew much interest but
> always worth a try.
>
> He sure has some interesting items for sure.
>
> It's cool you've met him too.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 28, 2023, 8:16 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Wow there are some really Cool things on this site.
>
>
>
> Ron Brown I have meet and talked to many time over the years.(at the wood
> working shows.)
>
> I do own some of his toys.  But this Off-center chuck and ladle chuck are
> Very nice, And I could see those being used with and on  the Legacy.
>
>
>
> Nice find Tim.
>
>
>
> I know you put the Longworth chuck on your rotary table Tim, Could you
> post a photo of your MOD? (I am sure many in the group have not seen it.)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 07:10:14 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Turning accessories we all could use. I have his LongWorth Chuck. And its
> the one I mounted on my Rotary Table on my 1200.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: *Ron Brown's Best, LLC*  >
> Date: Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 11:03 PM
> Subject: Woodturning Newsletter - What You Don't Know
> To: 
>
>
>
>
>
> *Happy Halloween 2023*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *You Don't Know What You Don't Know*
>
>
>
> I've had the privilege of speaking to an unusual number of folks at the
> beginning of their journeys over the past couple of weeks. Some are new
> turners, some new flat workers, and some just beginning their walk with the
> one true God. One of the hard lessons I've taken from 13 years on the
> Woodworking Show Circuit is to listen and evaluate each person's
> perspective before I formulate an answer. Don't automatically assume they
> know as much as you do.
>
>
>
> Today we delight in speaking to our customers by phone when they have
> questions about any of our products or

Re: Woodturning Newsletter - What You Don't Know

2023-10-29 Thread M.W.Foscue 
Dan,

Thank you - however, I am unable to open a document saved as "ods". 
I use an Apple Mac Powerbook with the latest software/updates.
Is there another format you can send it in?

Thanks.
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Oct 29, 2023 2:38 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Woodturning Newsletter - What You Don't Know

This is EXACTLY the concept of my REVO mods in the same area.  I was not aware 
Curt had already addressed the issue of indexing by moving the frame as the 
Legacy videos demonstrate.  As Curt stated in 100% lockstep, "my goal was to 
make things more simple".  Not only does it allow more possibilities, it makes 
the current possibilities more reliably repeatable.  
 
Butbecause "I didn't know", y'all get the benefit of the stones I used to 
get there!  Sharing the latest version of the charts again.  As usual, copy and 
replace the older ones if the version number doesn't match what you have.  
DanKOn Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 2:22:06 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
 
Hello Guys!  Just work up. (its 1:56pm.) Long night at work I got home form a 
15hr day at 5:30am.
 
I only state this due to me coming to this topic late...
 
I have not seen this video. (Nice)  But for the Group We can  use these disks 
in the same way as Ron Brown shown. But We can also use them in another way.
By making a simple jig to mount onto these type of disks, We can lock the plate 
together with the spindle so that we can move the part separately form the 
Legacy gearing system.  Meaning By using a indexing system together with the 
gears of the Legacy, Can/Will allow you to do more complex ropes easer with out 
all this carriage movement as for the offsetting of each rope.
 
The idea is a modification form Mike P.'s carriage indexing video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw (Mike's video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYb-fe4GS8M (My indexing Mod.)   
NOTE: Same but different concepts, Mike uses the acme screw for the indexing, I 
am using the gears, Not trying to get anyone confused, so I need to clarify 
things.
 
No onto the "Brown's best"  Indexing plates.  By making a locking method for 
the 1-8" headstock of the Legacy, you can lock his indexing plates onto the 
Legacy, Then you can lock the part onto the plate, by removing the indexing pin 
will allow you to index the part while leaving the gears locked into place. 
This makes it easer for indexing flutes, and or roping. (depending on your 
needs.)
 
NOTE: on my roping indexing plates are made to be simple, 2,3,4,6,8. indexes so 
I do not have to count holes, My goal was to make things more simple, But using 
a more adaptable indexing plate (like these Brown indexing plates) will allow 
more possibility's,  (similar to Dan's checkering)
 
Have a good day everyone.
C.A.G.
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 10:56:33 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:


 
Yup a bushing and you're all set.Kind Regards,Timothy J. Ziegler
On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 3:34 PM  wrote:








There are index plates on ebay too that could be made to fit the legacy 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/361588846468
 
Bill
From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Sunday, October 29, 2023 5:37 AMTo: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: Woodturning Newsletter - What You 
Don't Know
 
Hey Curt I could post it again. It really never drew much interest but always 
worth a try. 
He sure has some interesting items for sure.

It's cool you've met him too. 


 
On Sat, Oct 28, 2023, 8:16 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Wow there are some really Cool things on this site.

 

Ron Brown I have meet and talked to many time over the years.(at the wood 
working shows.)

I do own some of his toys.  But this Off-center chuck and ladle chuck are Very 
nice, And I could see those being used with and on  the Legacy.

 

Nice find Tim. 

 

I know you put the Longworth chuck on your rotary table Tim, Could you post a 
photo of your MOD? (I am sure many in the group have not seen it.)

 

C.A.G.

 


On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 07:10:14 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote: 

 

 Turning accessories we all could use. I have his LongWorth Chuck. And its the 
one I mounted on my Rotary Table on my 1200.


Kind Regards,
Timothy J. Ziegler

























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Re: checkering videos

2023-10-29 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Yup very impressive.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 12:23 AM  wrote:

> Yes totally Mike a jig is how I do it my tilting z axis is that jig if you
> can build things
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY97AGLe1cA_channel=aussiman77181 it
> solves all angle problems as well as z axis issues. Curt has his version too
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Okla Mike
> (Liltwisted)
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 29, 2023 1:10 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: checkering videos
>
>
>
> Great work Dan.
>
> I am sure it has been discussed but, All the effort thus far has been with
> the bit point doing all the cutting from above.  I have had similar
> projects that chipping became a huge issue.  A climb cut from the side is
> the way to go.  What you will need to accomplish this is a side cutting
> V-groove bit
>
>  [image: Magnate 778 Side V-Grooving Router Bit - 90 Degree; 1/2" Cutting
> Height ...]
>
> Then you will need to clamp your router on an angle that matches your cut
> path.  Either crudely secure it for the cut or make a jig that is
> adjustable, your choice.   Your cut will now shear instead of lifting the
> fragile points of the checkering.  You will enter the wood from the side
> with the Y-Axis instead of the z-Axis.
>
> Give it a thought and good luck.
>
> Mike OK
>
> On 10/15/2023 8:37 PM, cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I finally got the dynamic vernier index positioning chart workable.  I
> can't be sure of error free yet,  but it works accurately for 80 starts.
>
>
>
> It took me awhile to stretch my head around the expanded vernier operation
> on these high counts.  It turns out that one has to go around the index
> several times in some cases.  I had assumed it would be just once, like the
> simple indexes, and that was a stumbling block. Because the vernier has to
> be moved once the moves exhaust it's span, that creates a gap in the
> machining of the workpiece.  Not to worry, it finishes those gaps on the
> next go arounds.
>
>
>
> I am debating about putting the three video clips together, but I think it
> does better separately. This is not a video friendly site, so I'll put them
> on my Google drive for a bit and post the links. This is how I will link
> the description to help understand it's corresponding video.  Not a pro
> photographer, but I hope it explains the basics well enough.
>
>
>
> I'm attaching the now versioned Legacy Pitch Chart V10.1 which has the
> dynamic vernier positioning chart.  It is set up with print ranges already,
> so once you select the number of divisions to cut, the chart will adjust
> and you just print it. It made it possible for me to keep track of what
> move I just did and what the next one is supposed to be. Again, no
> guarantees if you use other than Libre Office Calc.
>
> DanK
>
>
>
>
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Re: Bone test #1

2023-10-29 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Hello Again everyone.
I was talking to my wife and she asked me why 8 bones? 
She told me that I should start again on a smaller batch.
I think she may be right.
So here are the parameters.What we know.
One normal bone, will normally yield 15 bone disks, It takes appx 20, normal 
sized disks to make a 5" bone handle. So 2 bone will be needed to make one 
handle. So next time, I will use those figures to make my timed test.
2 bones, from start to finish, timed.
Any thoughts? or comments?
C.A.G. 
On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 06:46:29 PM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:  
 
 Hello Everyone
I was asked in a private E-mail.  "How long dose it take to make your bone 
disks".  The answer is I honestly do not know? (its a dumb answer I know, but I 
have not timed my-self making this in the past, I just recorded the steps and 
results ,in the past.)
So Today I figured that I would make a one hour test, to try to find out the 
answer to that question.
I cut up 8 bones today.  Started cutting out the disks when my time ran out.
The results of the one hour test are, I have 55 bone disks 1/2 way cut out and 
appx. another 55 left to go. from 8 bones.I do believe that in another hour I 
should have everything done.
I will time my-self latter, when I finish up this job. But, for the time being, 
I am willing to state what I think, which is 110 bone disks in 2 hours.
Here are some photo's of what has been done so far.
C.A.G.

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RE: Woodturning Newsletter - What You Don't Know

2023-10-29 Thread bulkeley 
That idea does seem to simplify Dans concept 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2023 5:22 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Woodturning Newsletter - What You Don't Know

 

Hello Guys!  Just work up. (its 1:56pm.) Long night at work I got home form a 
15hr day at 5:30am.

 

I only state this due to me coming to this topic late...

 

I have not seen this video. (Nice)  But for the Group We can  use these disks 
in the same way as Ron Brown shown. But We can also use them in another way.

By making a simple jig to mount onto these type of disks, We can lock the plate 
together with the spindle so that we can move the part separately form the 
Legacy gearing system.  Meaning By using a indexing system together with the 
gears of the Legacy, Can/Will allow you to do more complex ropes easer with out 
all this carriage movement as for the offsetting of each rope.

 

The idea is a modification form Mike P.'s carriage indexing video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw (Mike's video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYb-fe4GS8M (My indexing Mod.)   

NOTE: Same but different concepts, Mike uses the acme screw for the indexing, I 
am using the gears, Not trying to get anyone confused, so I need to clarify 
things.

 

No onto the "Brown's best"  Indexing plates.  By making a locking method for 
the 1-8" headstock of the Legacy, you can lock his indexing plates onto the 
Legacy, Then you can lock the part onto the plate, by removing the indexing pin 
will allow you to index the part while leaving the gears locked into place. 
This makes it easer for indexing flutes, and or roping. (depending on your 
needs.)

 

NOTE: on my roping indexing plates are made to be simple, 2,3,4,6,8. indexes so 
I do not have to count holes, My goal was to make things more simple, But using 
a more adaptable indexing plate (like these Brown indexing plates) will allow 
more possibility's,  (similar to Dan's checkering)

 

Have a good day everyone.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 10:56:33 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Yup a bushing and you're all set.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 3:34 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

There are index plates on ebay too that could be made to fit the legacy 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/361588846468

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2023 5:37 AM
To: LOM Group mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Woodturning Newsletter - What You Don't Know

 

Hey Curt I could post it again. It really never drew much interest but always 
worth a try. 

He sure has some interesting items for sure.

It's cool you've met him too. 

 

On Sat, Oct 28, 2023, 8:16 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Wow there are some really Cool things on this site.

 

Ron Brown I have meet and talked to many time over the years.(at the wood 
working shows.)

I do own some of his toys.  But this Off-center chuck and ladle chuck are Very 
nice, And I could see those being used with and on  the Legacy.

 

Nice find Tim. 

 

I know you put the Longworth chuck on your rotary table Tim, Could you post a 
photo of your MOD? (I am sure many in the group have not seen it.)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 07:10:14 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Turning accessories we all could use. I have his LongWorth Chuck. And its the 
one I mounted on my Rotary Table on my 1200.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

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From: Ron Brown's Best, LLC mailto:ron_browns_best_...@ronbrownsbest.addr2.com> >
Date: Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 11:03 PM
Subject: Woodturning Newsletter - What You Don't Know
To: mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> >

 










  

 

 


Happy Halloween 2023

 



  

 

 



  

 


You Don't Know What You Don't Know

 

I've had the privilege of speaking to an unusual number of folks at the 
beginning of their journeys over the past couple of weeks. Some are new 
turners, some new flat workers, and some just beginning their walk with the one 
true God. One of the hard lessons I've taken from 13 years on the Woodworking 
Show Circuit is to listen and evaluate

Re: Woodturning Newsletter - What You Don't Know

2023-10-29 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Hello Guys!  Just work up. (its 1:56pm.) Long night at work I got home form a 
15hr day at 5:30am.
I only state this due to me coming to this topic late...
I have not seen this video. (Nice)  But for the Group We can  use these disks 
in the same way as Ron Brown shown. But We can also use them in another way.By 
making a simple jig to mount onto these type of disks, We can lock the plate 
together with the spindle so that we can move the part separately form the 
Legacy gearing system.  Meaning By using a indexing system together with the 
gears of the Legacy, Can/Will allow you to do more complex ropes easer with out 
all this carriage movement as for the offsetting of each rope.
The idea is a modification form Mike P.'s carriage indexing 
video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw (Mike's 
video)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYb-fe4GS8M (My indexing Mod.)   NOTE: 
Same but different concepts, Mike uses the acme screw for the indexing, I am 
using the gears, Not trying to get anyone confused, so I need to clarify things.
No onto the "Brown's best"  Indexing plates.  By making a locking method for 
the 1-8" headstock of the Legacy, you can lock his indexing plates onto the 
Legacy, Then you can lock the part onto the plate, by removing the indexing pin 
will allow you to index the part while leaving the gears locked into place. 
This makes it easer for indexing flutes, and or roping. (depending on your 
needs.)
NOTE: on my roping indexing plates are made to be simple, 2,3,4,6,8. indexes so 
I do not have to count holes, My goal was to make things more simple, But using 
a more adaptable indexing plate (like these Brown indexing plates) will allow 
more possibility's,  (similar to Dan's checkering)
Have a good day everyone.
C.A.G.
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 10:56:33 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Yup a bushing and you're all set.
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 3:34 PM  wrote:


There are index plates on ebay too that could be made to fit the legacy 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/361588846468

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2023 5:37 AM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: Woodturning Newsletter - What You Don't Know

 

Hey Curt I could post it again. It really never drew much interest but always 
worth a try. 

He sure has some interesting items for sure.

It's cool you've met him too. 

 

On Sat, Oct 28, 2023, 8:16 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:


Wow there are some really Cool things on this site.

 

Ron Brown I have meet and talked to many time over the years.(at the wood 
working shows.)

I do own some of his toys.  But this Off-center chuck and ladle chuck are Very 
nice, And I could see those being used with and on  the Legacy.

 

Nice find Tim. 

 

I know you put the Longworth chuck on your rotary table Tim, Could you post a 
photo of your MOD? (I am sure many in the group have not seen it.)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 07:10:14 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote: 

 

 

Turning accessories we all could use. I have his LongWorth Chuck. And its the 
one I mounted on my Rotary Table on my 1200.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

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I've had the privilege of speaking to an unusual number of folks at the 
beginning of their journeys over the past couple of weeks. Some are new 
turners, some new flat workers, and some just beginning their walk with the one 
true God. One of the hard lessons I've taken from 13 years on the Woodworking 
Show Circuit is to listen and evaluate each person's perspective before I 
formulate an answer. Don't automatically assume they know as much as you do.

 

Today we delight in speaking to our customers by phone when they have questions 
about any of our products or turning in general. I've learned to never assume 
anyone knows the proper terminology (jargon) or fully understands how something 
is supposed to work.  By listening to their questions and answers I am able to 
relate the solutions to their particular situation at their level of 
understanding.

 

Many years ago, Sweet Janice and I were on a California lake in our Hobie Cat 
catamaran sailboat in a pretty good breeze. Suddenly a strong gust of wind 
threatened to capsize us as I shouted "Loose the sheet!!!" After nearly 50 
years I still remember her response, "What's a sheet???" as