Re: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

2023-04-11 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Hello Everyone.
This Lead screw replacement MOD is a Very easy project for any one to try.
It is not the End-All-Be-All of MOD's, but for small turnings this MOD can 
really help you out.And for the price? ($11.01 for a 3' acme screw.) I think 
it's well worth the effort.  And the really neat part is, I can go back in min. 
to what My Legacy originally had.  For my Legacy 200 its only two sets of 
set-screws that need to be loosened upso the leadscrew can be removed. And IF I 
did the same thing on my 1000ex. it would be just as simple. (the acme screw is 
longer, but only two set of screws are only needed to be loosened in orderto 
remove and replace this acme screw.) the split nut is easy to make, and even 
easer to switch form oneto the other.Something for everyone to think about? Why 
not try it ???
I plan to try to get  into the shop tomorrow morning and do some more testing 
on this MOD.If I do I will let everyone know more, If I cant, my next day off 
is Sunday. And I promise, that I will be in the shop then. ;-)
I think, Legacy Slogan is true.   "Legacy, Where your only Imitation, is your 
Imagination". 
Have a good night.
C.A.G.


On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 02:06:43 AM EDT,  
wrote:  
 
 
Any time buddy

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 1:38 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

  

Thank you Bill.

You saved me form having to make it my self.

  

C.A.G.

  

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 11:32:10 PM EDT,  wrote: 

  

  

Curt you might find this helpful when I was playing around with

The possibility of 8TPI leadscrews on our legacy mills

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 12:42 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

 

Hi Tim

 

Yes I do own a 5/8-8 Acme tap.  Its the easiest part of the job.  just drill a 
1/2" hole on the plastic.

Then tap it, cut in half, and then sand to fit, once fitting is done just drill 
a 5/16" hole and tap 3/8" for the set-screw. 

Its the same process for cutting the 5/8-4.  Supper EASY. ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 10:20:13 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote: 

 

 

Hey Curt,

 

Super excited to see your results for sure. I may convert my Revo for the pen 
and game call turning. 

Just keep us posted on the results and any adjustments you end up doing to get 
it to work. 

I see no reason it will not work. Yes you will have to explain how you threaded 
that split nut too. I'd assume you have a

tap like many of us do for the larger one. Except you have 8 TPI instead of the 
4 TPI




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 7:50 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:


 

Hello Everyone.

 

"Well" I works! ;-)

Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on the 

test that I have done today.

 

This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.

And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.

 

Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What use

to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.

So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,

it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be 1/2 
of what the chart states.) 

 

I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very 
simple 

process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)

Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the original 
5/8-4 

Acme screw on my 200.

And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon. 

OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.

 

NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making 
furniture.

and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large 
spindles, But when 

I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that the 
pitches were just to 

big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch, did not 
look right, It was

almost to large for the small spindle.

 

Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.  Years 
back We (a number of 

people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch so you 
could get a finer/cleaner

looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.  

As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.

I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.  
https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
 

I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?

RE: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

2023-04-11 Thread bulkeley
Any time buddy

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 1:38 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

 

Thank you Bill.

You saved me form having to make it my self.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 11:32:10 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Curt you might find this helpful when I was playing around with

The possibility of 8TPI leadscrews on our legacy mills

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 12:42 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

 

Hi Tim

 

Yes I do own a 5/8-8 Acme tap.  Its the easiest part of the job.  just drill a 
1/2" hole on the plastic.

Then tap it, cut in half, and then sand to fit, once fitting is done just drill 
a 5/16" hole and tap 3/8" for the set-screw. 

Its the same process for cutting the 5/8-4.  Supper EASY. ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 10:20:13 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hey Curt,

 

Super excited to see your results for sure. I may convert my Revo for the pen 
and game call turning. 

Just keep us posted on the results and any adjustments you end up doing to get 
it to work. 

I see no reason it will not work. Yes you will have to explain how you threaded 
that split nut too. I'd assume you have a

tap like many of us do for the larger one. Except you have 8 TPI instead of the 
4 TPI




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 7:50 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

Hello Everyone.

 

"Well" I works! ;-)

Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on the 

test that I have done today.

 

This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.

And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.

 

Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What use

to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.

So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,

it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be 1/2 
of what the chart states.) 

 

I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very 
simple 

process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)

Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the original 
5/8-4 

Acme screw on my 200.

And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon. 

OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.

 

NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making 
furniture.

and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large 
spindles, But when 

I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that the 
pitches were just to 

big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch, did not 
look right, It was

almost to large for the small spindle.

 

Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.  Years 
back We (a number of 

people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch so you 
could get a finer/cleaner

looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.  

As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.

I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.   
<https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws>
 
https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
 

I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?  I still have all my 
original parts and it is a easy 

replacement. So I can replace it any time I choose.

 

Here are some photo's.

 

Please let my know what you think about this idea.

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 08:34:21 PM EDT, Curt George 
mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hello Everyone.

 

"Well" I works! ;-)

Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on the 

test that I have done today.

 

This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.

And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.

 

Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What use

to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.

So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,

it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it wil

Re: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

2023-04-10 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Thank you Bill.You saved me form having to make it my self.
C.A.G.
On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 11:32:10 PM EDT,  
wrote:  
 
 
Curt you might find this helpful when I was playing around with

The possibility of 8TPI leadscrews on our legacy mills

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 12:42 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

  

Hi Tim

  

Yes I do own a 5/8-8 Acme tap.  Its the easiest part of the job.  just drill a 
1/2" hole on the plastic.

Then tap it, cut in half, and then sand to fit, once fitting is done just drill 
a 5/16" hole and tap 3/8" for the set-screw. 

Its the same process for cutting the 5/8-4.  Supper EASY. ;-)

  

C.A.G.

  

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 10:20:13 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote: 

  

  

Hey Curt,

  

Super excited to see your results for sure. I may convert my Revo for the pen 
and game call turning. 

Just keep us posted on the results and any adjustments you end up doing to get 
it to work. 

I see no reason it will not work. Yes you will have to explain how you threaded 
that split nut too. I'd assume you have a

tap like many of us do for the larger one. Except you have 8 TPI instead of the 
4 TPI




Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

  

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 7:50 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:


  

Hello Everyone.

  

"Well" I works! ;-)

Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on the 

test that I have done today.

  

This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.

And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.

  

Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What use

to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.

So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,

it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be 1/2 
of what the chart states.) 

  

I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very 
simple 

process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)

Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the original 
5/8-4 

Acme screw on my 200.

And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon. 

OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.

  

NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making 
furniture.

and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large 
spindles, But when 

I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that the 
pitches were just to 

big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch, did not 
look right, It was

almost to large for the small spindle.

  

Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.  Years 
back We (a number of 

people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch so you 
could get a finer/cleaner

looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.  

As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.

I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.  
https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
 

I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?  I still have all my 
original parts and it is a easy 

replacement. So I can replace it any time I choose.

  

Here are some photo's.

  

Please let my know what you think about this idea.

  

C.A.G. 

  

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 08:34:21 PM EDT, Curt George 
 wrote: 

  

  

Hello Everyone.

  

"Well" I works! ;-)

Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on the 

test that I have done today.

  

This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.

And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.

  

Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What use

to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.

So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,

it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be 1/2 
of what the chart states.) 

  

I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very 
simple 

process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)

Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the original 
5/8-4 

Acme screw on my 200.

And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon. 

OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.

  

NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making 
furniture.

and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefec

RE: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

2023-04-10 Thread bulkeley
Curt you might find this helpful when I was playing around with

The possibility of 8TPI leadscrews on our legacy mills

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 12:42 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

 

Hi Tim

 

Yes I do own a 5/8-8 Acme tap.  Its the easiest part of the job.  just drill a 
1/2" hole on the plastic.

Then tap it, cut in half, and then sand to fit, once fitting is done just drill 
a 5/16" hole and tap 3/8" for the set-screw. 

Its the same process for cutting the 5/8-4.  Supper EASY. ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 10:20:13 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hey Curt,

 

Super excited to see your results for sure. I may convert my Revo for the pen 
and game call turning. 

Just keep us posted on the results and any adjustments you end up doing to get 
it to work. 

I see no reason it will not work. Yes you will have to explain how you threaded 
that split nut too. I'd assume you have a

tap like many of us do for the larger one. Except you have 8 TPI instead of the 
4 TPI




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 7:50 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

Hello Everyone.

 

"Well" I works! ;-)

Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on the 

test that I have done today.

 

This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.

And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.

 

Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What use

to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.

So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,

it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be 1/2 
of what the chart states.) 

 

I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very 
simple 

process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)

Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the original 
5/8-4 

Acme screw on my 200.

And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon. 

OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.

 

NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making 
furniture.

and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large 
spindles, But when 

I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that the 
pitches were just to 

big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch, did not 
look right, It was

almost to large for the small spindle.

 

Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.  Years 
back We (a number of 

people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch so you 
could get a finer/cleaner

looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.  

As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.

I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.   
<https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws>
 
https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
 

I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?  I still have all my 
original parts and it is a easy 

replacement. So I can replace it any time I choose.

 

Here are some photo's.

 

Please let my know what you think about this idea.

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 08:34:21 PM EDT, Curt George 
mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hello Everyone.

 

"Well" I works! ;-)

Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on the 

test that I have done today.

 

This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.

And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.

 

Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What use

to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.

So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,

it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be 1/2 
of what the chart states.) 

 

I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very 
simple 

process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)

Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the original 
5/8-4 

Acme screw on my 200.

And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon. 

OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.

 

NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making 
furnitur

Re: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

2023-04-10 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yup thats what we hope for. More playing to do lol.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 9:40 PM Ccm Ccm  wrote:

> Nice job Curt that should give you a better selection of pitches for small
> work
>
> On Monday, April 10, 2023, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello Everyone.
>>
>> "Well" I works! ;-)
>> Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on
>> the
>> test that I have done today.
>>
>> This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.
>> And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.
>>
>> Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What
>> use
>> to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same
>> distance.
>> So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,
>> it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now
>> be 1/2 of what the chart states.)
>>
>> I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very
>> simple
>> process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)
>> Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the
>> original 5/8-4
>> Acme screw on my 200.
>> And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon.
>> OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.
>>
>> NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making
>> furniture.
>> and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for
>> large spindles, But when
>> I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that
>> the pitches were just to
>> big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch,
>> did not look right, It was
>> almost to large for the small spindle.
>>
>> Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.
>> Years back We (a number of
>> people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch
>> so you could get a finer/cleaner
>> looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.
>> As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.
>> I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.
>> https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
>>
>> I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?  I still have all
>> my original parts and it is a easy
>> replacement. So I can replace it any time I choose.
>>
>> Here are some photo's.
>>
>> Please let my know what you think about this idea.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 08:34:21 PM EDT, Curt George <
>> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello Everyone.
>>
>> "Well" I works! ;-)
>> Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on
>> the
>> test that I have done today.
>>
>> This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.
>> And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.
>>
>> Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What
>> use
>> to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same
>> distance.
>> So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,
>> it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now
>> be 1/2 of what the chart states.)
>>
>> I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very
>> simple
>> process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)
>> Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the
>> original 5/8-4
>> Acme screw on my 200.
>> And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon.
>> OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.
>>
>> NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making
>> furniture.
>> and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for
>> large spindles, But when
>> I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that
>> the pitches were just to
>> big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch,
>> did not look right, It was
>> almost to large for the small spindle.
>>
>> Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.
>> Years back We (a number of
>> people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch
>> so you could get a finer/cleaner
>> looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.
>> As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.
>> I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.
>> https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
>>
>> I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?  I still have all
>> my original parts and it is a easy
>> replacement. So I can replace it any time I choose.
>>
>> Here are some photo's.

Re: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

2023-04-10 Thread Tim Ziegler
yup for sure and so glad it went that well.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 9:42 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Tim
>
> Yes I do own a 5/8-8 Acme tap.  Its the easiest part of the job.  just
> drill a 1/2" hole on the plastic.
> Then tap it, cut in half, and then sand to fit, once fitting is done just
> drill a 5/16" hole and tap 3/8" for the set-screw.
> Its the same process for cutting the 5/8-4.  Supper EASY. ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 10:20:13 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Curt,
>
> Super excited to see your results for sure. I may convert my Revo for the
> pen and game call turning.
> Just keep us posted on the results and any adjustments you end up doing to
> get it to work.
> I see no reason it will not work. Yes you will have to explain how you
> threaded that split nut too. I'd assume you have a
> tap like many of us do for the larger one. Except you have 8 TPI instead
> of the 4 TPI
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 7:50 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> "Well" I works! ;-)
> Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on
> the
> test that I have done today.
>
> This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.
> And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.
>
> Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What
> use
> to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.
> So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,
> it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be
> 1/2 of what the chart states.)
>
> I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very
> simple
> process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)
> Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the
> original 5/8-4
> Acme screw on my 200.
> And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon.
> OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.
>
> NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making
> furniture.
> and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large
> spindles, But when
> I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that
> the pitches were just to
> big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch, did
> not look right, It was
> almost to large for the small spindle.
>
> Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.
> Years back We (a number of
> people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch
> so you could get a finer/cleaner
> looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.
> As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.
> I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.
> https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
>
> I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?  I still have all
> my original parts and it is a easy
> replacement. So I can replace it any time I choose.
>
> Here are some photo's.
>
> Please let my know what you think about this idea.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 08:34:21 PM EDT, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> "Well" I works! ;-)
> Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on
> the
> test that I have done today.
>
> This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.
> And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.
>
> Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What
> use
> to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.
> So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,
> it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be
> 1/2 of what the chart states.)
>
> I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very
> simple
> process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)
> Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the
> original 5/8-4
> Acme screw on my 200.
> And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon.
> OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.
>
> NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making
> furniture.
> and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large
> spindles, But when
> I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I 

Re: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

2023-04-10 Thread Ccm Ccm
Nice job Curt that should give you a better selection of pitches for small
work

On Monday, April 10, 2023, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> "Well" I works! ;-)
> Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on
> the
> test that I have done today.
>
> This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.
> And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.
>
> Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What
> use
> to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.
> So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,
> it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be
> 1/2 of what the chart states.)
>
> I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very
> simple
> process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)
> Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the
> original 5/8-4
> Acme screw on my 200.
> And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon.
> OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.
>
> NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making
> furniture.
> and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large
> spindles, But when
> I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that
> the pitches were just to
> big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch, did
> not look right, It was
> almost to large for the small spindle.
>
> Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.
> Years back We (a number of
> people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch
> so you could get a finer/cleaner
> looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.
> As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.
> I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.
> https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-
> screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
> I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?  I still have all
> my original parts and it is a easy
> replacement. So I can replace it any time I choose.
>
> Here are some photo's.
>
> Please let my know what you think about this idea.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 08:34:21 PM EDT, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> "Well" I works! ;-)
> Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on
> the
> test that I have done today.
>
> This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.
> And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.
>
> Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What
> use
> to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.
> So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,
> it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be
> 1/2 of what the chart states.)
>
> I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very
> simple
> process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)
> Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the
> original 5/8-4
> Acme screw on my 200.
> And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon.
> OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.
>
> NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making
> furniture.
> and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large
> spindles, But when
> I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that
> the pitches were just to
> big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch, did
> not look right, It was
> almost to large for the small spindle.
>
> Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.
> Years back We (a number of
> people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch
> so you could get a finer/cleaner
> looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.
> As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.
> I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.
> https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-
> screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
> I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?  I still have all
> my original parts and it is a easy
> replacement. So I can replace it any time I choose.
>
> Here are some photo's.
>
> Please let my know what you think about this idea.
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

2023-04-10 Thread Tim Ziegler
Great thanks for that Curt.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 8:20 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Here are the two lead screws together with there slip nut assembly.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 08:50:12 PM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> "Well" I works! ;-)
> Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on
> the
> test that I have done today.
>
> This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.
> And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.
>
> Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What
> use
> to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.
> So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,
> it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be
> 1/2 of what the chart states.)
>
> I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very
> simple
> process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)
> Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the
> original 5/8-4
> Acme screw on my 200.
> And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon.
> OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.
>
> NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making
> furniture.
> and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large
> spindles, But when
> I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that
> the pitches were just to
> big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch, did
> not look right, It was
> almost to large for the small spindle.
>
> Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.
> Years back We (a number of
> people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch
> so you could get a finer/cleaner
> looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.
> As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.
> I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.
> https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
>
> I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?  I still have all
> my original parts and it is a easy
> replacement. So I can replace it any time I choose.
>
> Here are some photo's.
>
> Please let my know what you think about this idea.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 08:34:21 PM EDT, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> "Well" I works! ;-)
> Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on
> the
> test that I have done today.
>
> This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.
> And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.
>
> Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What
> use
> to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.
> So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,
> it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be
> 1/2 of what the chart states.)
>
> I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very
> simple
> process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)
> Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the
> original 5/8-4
> Acme screw on my 200.
> And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon.
> OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.
>
> NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making
> furniture.
> and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large
> spindles, But when
> I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that
> the pitches were just to
> big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch, did
> not look right, It was
> almost to large for the small spindle.
>
> Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.
> Years back We (a number of
> people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch
> so you could get a finer/cleaner
> looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.
> As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.
> I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.
> https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
>
> I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?  I still have all
> my original parts and it is a easy
> replacement. So I can replace it any time I choose.
>
> Here are some photo's.
>
> Please let my know what you think about this idea.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> --
> You received 

Re: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

2023-04-10 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey Curt,

Super excited to see your results for sure. I may convert my Revo for the
pen and game call turning.
Just keep us posted on the results and any adjustments you end up doing to
get it to work.
I see no reason it will not work. Yes you will have to explain how you
threaded that split nut too. I'd assume you have a
tap like many of us do for the larger one. Except you have 8 TPI instead of
the 4 TPI

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 7:50 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> "Well" I works! ;-)
> Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on
> the
> test that I have done today.
>
> This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.
> And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.
>
> Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What
> use
> to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.
> So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,
> it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be
> 1/2 of what the chart states.)
>
> I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very
> simple
> process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)
> Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the
> original 5/8-4
> Acme screw on my 200.
> And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon.
> OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.
>
> NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making
> furniture.
> and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large
> spindles, But when
> I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that
> the pitches were just to
> big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch, did
> not look right, It was
> almost to large for the small spindle.
>
> Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.
> Years back We (a number of
> people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch
> so you could get a finer/cleaner
> looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.
> As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.
> I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.
> https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
>
> I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?  I still have all
> my original parts and it is a easy
> replacement. So I can replace it any time I choose.
>
> Here are some photo's.
>
> Please let my know what you think about this idea.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 08:34:21 PM EDT, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> "Well" I works! ;-)
> Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on
> the
> test that I have done today.
>
> This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.
> And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.
>
> Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What
> use
> to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.
> So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,
> it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be
> 1/2 of what the chart states.)
>
> I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very
> simple
> process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)
> Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the
> original 5/8-4
> Acme screw on my 200.
> And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon.
> OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.
>
> NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making
> furniture.
> and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large
> spindles, But when
> I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that
> the pitches were just to
> big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch, did
> not look right, It was
> almost to large for the small spindle.
>
> Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.
> Years back We (a number of
> people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch
> so you could get a finer/cleaner
> looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.
> As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.
> I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.
> https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
>
> I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?  I still have all
> my