Re: TK Made Items

[MWF]

Tim,As usual - VERY Nice/EXCELLENT work!Thanks for sharing.Mac-Original Message-
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Here's another one off that I built for one of our members.  He's
  a shy guy so I posted this one a long time ago.  He built his own
  rotary table from car parts and a drill. 

The main feature is an index ring that allowed him to index the
  table and lock it with an adjustable index pin. I made the wheel.


I laid out the hole pattern that he wanted. I don't remember the
  details but you can see the hole pretty well in the picture. This
  was a laser cut index wheel.
Here's the adjustable index.  On the right side you can see the
  top of a bolt that is loosened and the spring loaded arm is moved
  to the correct ring of indexes. 



The large gear is off a flywheel from a car.  This thing was
  built extremely well. The rotary table was connected to the
  headstock with an adjustable arm with steering knuckles.




And finally, the only shot I have of the rotary table.

If you look closely, you can see a vacuum pump underneath the
  rotary table.  He used that to vacuum clamp the items to the
  rotary table.  The plastic blocks on the table were used for
  registration. 

Well that's it for today folks. 

-Tim

  







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Re: TK Made Items

[Tim Ziegler]

very good thanks Tim
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 5:12 AM Timothy Krause 
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> Here's a little transition to gear talk.  I can make any gear that you
> need.  I've attached a pdf of the possible pitches available.  I've made
> gears from 10 teeth, all the way up to 135 teeth that needed a little
> modification to fit the machine.  The 10 tooth is really small and I
> feel not reliable and also need a slight modification to the machine. So
> the ones I've listed are all possible.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> -Tim
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Re: TK Made Items

[Timothy Krause]

Here's a little transition to gear talk.  I can make any gear that you 
need.  I've attached a pdf of the possible pitches available.  I've made 
gears from 10 teeth, all the way up to 135 teeth that needed a little 
modification to fit the machine.  The 10 tooth is really small and I 
feel not reliable and also need a slight modification to the machine. So 
the ones I've listed are all possible.


Enjoy!

-Tim


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Re: TK Made Items

[Timothy Krause]

Hello All,

Another little missing feature on the rotary table is a method to lock 
it in place when making a straight cut.  There is excessive play in all 
of the gear train. To solve this, I made this little lock for several 
members.  A twist of the handle 180 degrees and the lock clamps on the 
gear locking the table in place.  Release is opposite procedure.


The one problem that made this one limited in numbers was because the 
rotary table ships with so many different heights. I had to make the 
bottom part of the lock a custom height to an individuals rotary table.  
Plus the location of the hole required to mount the lock needed a level 
of precision that most wood workers cannot do.  So in the end I had our 
members send me their tables to install the lock.



I also added the center holding option.  You can see that here.

https://ornamentalmills.com/tips/threaded_insert/rotary_table_threaded_insert.html

It's one of the most early modifications that I made.  I have one final 
modification to the rotary table that could be seen on the post where I 
showed the eccentric turning on the rotary table.  I use a single Kreg 
mini t-track on my rotary tables.  It gives me several options for 
clamping.  I'll post those later.



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ignore, there should be a link and a image.



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Re: TK Made Items

[Timothy Krause]

More rotary table tweaks I have made.  As mentioned in the last post, 
the direct connection to of the rotary table to the spindle is how I use 
my rotary table.  I do not use the crank handle provided that is used 
inside the rails. So here's a link to an old page that shows what I did 
and have sold the lovejoy connection to double locking collar adapter 
all over the world.


http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/rotary_table_mods/index.html

The first item has been made obsolete because of availability of zinc 
couplers.  I can't find them anywhere.  The steel replacements are way 
out of line for a simple adapter.


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Testing, please ignore

http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/rotary_table_mods/driveshaft_installed.jpg

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Re: TK Made Items

[artmarbles]

One other thing, the chuck are only 1/2" high so not much room for multiple 
O-rings.Sent from Samsung tablet
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Re: TK Made Items

[artmarbles]

The O-ring solely for the purpose of holding the pieces together. It doesn't 
protrude outside of the chucks. When using, I only lost a couple out of 
hundreds. Some were lost to over tightening and the grain split. However it 
might also have been the wood.  Hard to say for sure.PVC is a very grippy 
plastic compared to other polymers. That is why I chose it. I thought of steel 
and aluminium but I decided I wanted to use a sacrificial type of material. Of 
course it's really nothing to a carbide bit to eat those up!Great question and 
comments.Sent from Samsung tablet
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RE: TK Made Items

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I never shared this one, so your memory is not failing yet!
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Re: TK Made Items

[MWF]

I realize you can determine the max diameter that will fit, starting out, on your Mill.  That is determined by the width between your rails.  Thinking about it -  that max will also be influenced by the finished "edge" you want.  If you want there to be a 1/2" or 3/4" edge vs having it taper down to essentially no edge - you will have different limitations.  Those "results" will drive the width and thickness of the stock you can mount on your respective Pilaster Mounts.  Tim sort of have the right idea for calculating it - on the drawings in his posting of:Subject: RE: TK Made Items
	
	Date: Sep 18, 2019 7:15 AMMaybe someone has created a table for turning various stock sizes when using the 5 sizes of Pilaster Mounts that Legacy sold - and could post it here.Mac-Original Message-
From: "jwb...@windstream.net" 
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It has been a few years since I have used mine.  But when I did I drew a circle slightly smaller than the turning capacity of the machine, then made sure the parts would fit inside it.  From: "MWF" To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 3:46:47 PMSubject: RE: TK Made ItemsHas anyone calculated what are the largest sized pieces of 2x material you can run with Pilaster mounts on a LOM?  Assuming a 4-sided Pilaster Mount.It appears to me that if you go to a pentagon shaped (or more) Pilaster Mount, you will reduce the max size that will fit between the rails.Mac-Original Message-
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Cool Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of TimSent: Wednesday, 18 September 2019 7:39 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: TK Made Items   These custom parts were created for a member that wanted to make larger pilasters. Although we suggested make a core box to turn them, he thought it would be better to create metal mounts like Legacy’s but in the 5” and 6” range. So I created these.   To turn the 6” pilaster trimming of the wood on the table saw was required.  I also suggested to flip the mounts for the inner rails to gain an extra ½ which was all that was needed. I don’t have a picture of that.  I even did a quick study of being able to turn more pilasters at once.  I looked at 6 and 8 and decided the added cost of material and difficult level off setting up the brake was not worth it.  If the modern models had more space between the rails and depth under the rails, the 8 sided model could have worked, but again, it was expensive to build.Another custom template that I made for the same member wanted a simple way to mark his wood stock.  He wanted to be able to see if he could get the most out of his wood.  So, I created this tool.  It was good for up to 6”.  The Legacy bolt pattern was also easy to mark out.In the case where the wood is a difficult shape is where this tool comes in handy.  That’s it for today.  I hope it gives some food for thought. Tim



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Re: TK Made Items

[jwb...@windstream.net]

It has been a few years since I have used mine. But when I did I drew a circle 
slightly smaller than the turning capacity of the machine, then made sure the 
parts would fit inside it. 


From: "MWF"  
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 3:46:47 PM 
Subject: RE: TK Made Items 

Has anyone calculated what are the largest sized pieces of 2x material you can 
run with Pilaster mounts on a LOM? Assuming a 4-sided Pilaster Mount. 
It appears to me that if you go to a pentagon shaped (or more) Pilaster Mount, 
you will reduce the max size that will fit between the rails. 
Mac 





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From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
Sent: Sep 18, 2019 7:15 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: TK Made Items 



Cool 



Bill 




From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim 
Sent: Wednesday, 18 September 2019 7:39 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: TK Made Items 








These custom parts were created for a member that wanted to make larger 
pilasters. Although we suggested make a core box to turn them, he thought it 
would be better to create metal mounts like Legacy’s but in the 5” and 6” 
range. So I created these. 











To turn the 6” pilaster trimming of the wood on the table saw was required. I 
also suggested to flip the mounts for the inner rails to gain an extra ½ which 
was all that was needed. I don’t have a picture of that. 



I even did a quick study of being able to turn more pilasters at once. I looked 
at 6 and 8 and decided the added cost of material and difficult level off 
setting up the brake was not worth it. If the modern models had more space 
between the rails and depth under the rails, the 8 sided model could have 
worked, but again, it was expensive to build. 













Another custom template that I made for the same member wanted a simple way to 
mark his wood stock. He wanted to be able to see if he could get the most out 
of his wood. So, I created this tool. It was good for up to 6”. The Legacy bolt 
pattern was also easy to mark out. 













In the case where the wood is a difficult shape is where this tool comes in 
handy. 







That’s it for today. I hope it gives some food for thought. 



Tim 





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RE: TK Made Items

[MWF]

Has anyone calculated what are the largest sized pieces of 2x material you can run with Pilaster mounts on a LOM?  Assuming a 4-sided Pilaster Mount.It appears to me that if you go to a pentagon shaped (or more) Pilaster Mount, you will reduce the max size that will fit between the rails.Mac-Original Message-
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Sent: Sep 18, 2019 7:15 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: TK Made Items

Cool Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of TimSent: Wednesday, 18 September 2019 7:39 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: TK Made Items   These custom parts were created for a member that wanted to make larger pilasters. Although we suggested make a core box to turn them, he thought it would be better to create metal mounts like Legacy’s but in the 5” and 6” range. So I created these.   To turn the 6” pilaster trimming of the wood on the table saw was required.  I also suggested to flip the mounts for the inner rails to gain an extra ½ which was all that was needed. I don’t have a picture of that.  I even did a quick study of being able to turn more pilasters at once.  I looked at 6 and 8 and decided the added cost of material and difficult level off setting up the brake was not worth it.  If the modern models had more space between the rails and depth under the rails, the 8 sided model could have worked, but again, it was expensive to build.Another custom template that I made for the same member wanted a simple way to mark his wood stock.  He wanted to be able to see if he could get the most out of his wood.  So, I created this tool.  It was good for up to 6”.  The Legacy bolt pattern was also easy to mark out.In the case where the wood is a difficult shape is where this tool comes in handy.  That’s it for today.  I hope it gives some food for thought. Tim




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Re: TK Made Items

[MWF]

Hi Tim,Pretty cool!  For sure!  Thanks for sharing.You mentioned that the assembly is held together by the o-ring.  The unintended consequence of the feature is you are also benefiting from the slight amount of friction (grab) that the o-ring provides - helping to keep the block being secured from slipping.  Have you given thought to using two o-rings - each in a groove 1/3 down/up from the top/bottom?I'm going to have to label you "The Alexander Graham Bell of the LOM"!  Great work.Thanks again.Mac-Original Message-
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To: "legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com" 
Subject: TK Made Items

  From: TimSent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 1:52 AMTo: TimSubject: RE: TK Made Items On last thing for the new day.  I needed to be able to grab something from the inside.  What I came up with was a simple design taken from expanding chucks.  I just scaled the up a bit.  What you are looking at is a disk made from pvc.  The inner parts of the four pieces have a countersink that matches a a custom part A screw comes up from the bottom.  When the assembly is turned the screw tightens and expands the 4 jaws.  A O-Ring keeps it together.  Tightening the screw from below also makes the jaws expand.  Please note, this only works on my custom rotary table with the center that is drilled and tapped.     Here’s a demonstration of the part in use.   You can see how the jaws have expanded.  You should be able to see how this benefits work holding with open and closed items on the rotary table.  I liked this so much that I made a full set of expanding jaws in ¼” increment that I use. Pretty cool stuff right? Tim



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Re: TK Made Items

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks for the input and advice Tim. I own all the index plates as I had
Cindy get them made along with pretty much everything else that
they still made or had available.  So I am a total control freak and worked
in the Tooling dept at WoodCraft Industries inc. for  27 years
so I have instilled in my mind 10ths thousands on the tooling side and
thousands on the moulder side. So a little anal on the accuracy.
It kills me some days lol.  So point is I'd love to create that one that
mounts underneath.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 11:23 PM Tim  wrote:

> After using the index ring on the rotary table for a while I learned that
> it’s useful only for the odd degrees.  A turn on the handle or ¼ turn is
> accurate enough.  I do also have a index wheel that mounts on the underside
> that engages a pin that works extremely well for a control freak.
> Unfortunately, it’s limited to the number of index plates you own.
>
>
>
> If I were to buy another laser for engraving, I would find a guy that owns
> one and use him to cut your parts.  C02 lasers you see available for cheap
> die from simply sitting around.  The tubes are like a pop bottle, they
> loose their fiz and you have to buy another one.  So I think let the other
> guy spend his money.  Only problem is finding one that knows what they are
> doing.
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> *From: *Tim Ziegler 
> *Sent: *Sunday, September 8, 2019 9:46 AM
> *To: *legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: TK Made Items
>
>
>
> That indexable table I am really interested in creating for my Rotary
> table.
>
> We are looking hard at a laser engraver for the business and may consider
> trying to cut those out. Thoughts? Tim
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 7:08 AM Tim  wrote:
>
> I found some other simple links.  Keep in mind, some of this is really
> old.
>
>
>
> Here’s some attempts at making the rotary table easier to use.
>
>
>
> This is one of my favorites.
>
> https://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/TK_rotary_table_indexing/index.html
>
>
>
> This is a huge time saver for small parts and large a well.  Centering
> difficulties have been eliminated.  My only change after this was to add a
> low profile t-track (not shown) for additional clamping opportunities.
>
>
>
> https://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/TK_rotary_table_indexing/index.html
>
>
>
>
>
> I didn’t make this, but I discovered the harbor freight dial indicators
> fit perfect in the router from hell.  No need for my digital scale
> conversion. I’ll admit I mostly use my digital scale though.
>
>
>
> https://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/z-axis_dial_indicator/index.html
>
>
>
> Well I  think that is all the simple links to my stuff.  There are so many
> pictures to come.
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: TK Made Items

[Tim]

After using the index ring on the rotary table for a while I learned that it’s 
useful only for the odd degrees.  A turn on the handle or ¼ turn is accurate 
enough.  I do also have a index wheel that mounts on the underside that engages 
a pin that works extremely well for a control freak.  Unfortunately, it’s 
limited to the number of index plates you own.  

If I were to buy another laser for engraving, I would find a guy that owns one 
and use him to cut your parts.  C02 lasers you see available for cheap die from 
simply sitting around.  The tubes are like a pop bottle, they loose their fiz 
and you have to buy another one.  So I think let the other guy spend his money. 
 Only problem is finding one that knows what they are doing.  

Tim
 

From: Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 9:46 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TK Made Items

That indexable table I am really interested in creating for my Rotary table. 
We are looking hard at a laser engraver for the business and may consider 
trying to cut those out. Thoughts? Tim

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 7:08 AM Tim  wrote:
I found some other simple links.  Keep in mind, some of this is really old.  
 
Here’s some attempts at making the rotary table easier to use. 
 
This is one of my favorites.
https://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/TK_rotary_table_indexing/index.html
 
This is a huge time saver for small parts and large a well.  Centering 
difficulties have been eliminated.  My only change after this was to add a low 
profile t-track (not shown) for additional clamping opportunities. 
 
https://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/TK_rotary_table_indexing/index.html
 
 
I didn’t make this, but I discovered the harbor freight dial indicators fit 
perfect in the router from hell.  No need for my digital scale conversion. I’ll 
admit I mostly use my digital scale though.
 
https://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/z-axis_dial_indicator/index.html
 
Well I  think that is all the simple links to my stuff.  There are so many 
pictures to come.
 
Tim
 
 
 
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Re: TK Made Items

[Steven Jacobs]

I. Have the height adjustment for the 900. Excellent and super easy! 

Steve Jacobs

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 8, 2019, at 8:55 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> I agree, 
> Wow he has made some incredible add on's and mods for sure. Very impressed!
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 8:37 AM  wrote:
>> Now your just showing off we all know you’re the master jedi of legacy mods
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
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>>  
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>>  
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>>  
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>>  
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>>  
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>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Tim
>> Sent: Sunday, 8 September 2019 10:32 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: TK Made Items
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Did your tailstock get destroyed from using the pilaster kit?  My did so I 
>> made these.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/tailstock_hub/end_view_tailstock_hub.jpg
>> 
>> http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/tailstock_hub/headstock_view.jpg
>> 
>> http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/tailstock_hub/tailstock_view_installed.jpg
>> 
>> http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/tailstock_hub/tailstock_view_side_installed.jpg
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> these were not my idea.  When I met Tracy Anderson at a Woodworking show and 
>> told him about the problem, he informed me they included a part similar to 
>> mine to fix this problem.  This started When Bill Bulkely noticed the part 
>> in on of the demos.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> All of this information will be melded into Ornamentalmills.com when I get a 
>> chance.  Things are changing on the web that I need to catch up on before I 
>> make anymore hidden updates.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Here’s one I’ve never shown or used but made sense at the time.  A method to 
>> use a turning chuck to hold work upright on a legacy aluminum rail.  I don’t 
>> recall anyone wanting to buy one either!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> All right, that is enough for today.  Enjoy the guided tour of things you 
>> may not have seen.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
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Re: TK Made Items

[Ray Leaman]

This was the kind of information I was hoping to find when I joined this
group. I look forward to seeing your other innovations as you can put them
on line here. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and skills with the rest of
us.

Ray

On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 7:55 AM Tim  wrote:

>
>
> I’ve been asked by a lot of members in the group if I have a catalog of
> everything I’ve ever made for the Legacy Mill.  I don’t.  So I’m starting a
> topic of items that I’ve made and have long forgotten or still would make
> if there is enough Interest.  I’m going to post them slowly over the next
> few weeks as I find them.  There will be no specific order.  So here it
> goes.
>
>
>
> Taller Legs for model 900 2” extension, also made 3” and a 4” extension
> legs.
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/legacy-ornamental-mills/LukcjELgxvg/Owpgaq7DxeoJ
>
>
>
> My QC Direction changer.  After talking with Curt George about the idea of
> a better direction changer I came up with this.
>
>
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/legacy-ornamental-mills/LHkNujx8wkc/eewTSJa8wNoJ
>
>
>
> That Post shows my TK Reciprocator inspired by the Atkins reciprocator
> from an antique machine. Mine has more travel and options.  It needs to be
> updated.
>
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/waveattachment.html
>
>
>
> where does the time go…
>
>
>
> One of the easiest way to level you 900 bed was with my TK Bed Height
> Adjustment Tool.  Four plates with a specific hole pattern to enable close
> to infinite adjustments My extended height legs shown already implemented a
> similar hole pattern so the rods could still be used for leveling your bed.
>
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/bedheightadjustment/bedheightadjustment.html
>
>
>
> An extended gear set that fills in some holes in the standard set of
> pitches.  The truth is I can cut gear from about the 16 tooth to 120. I
> don’t cut Legacy gears that are available from the factory.
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/extra_legacy_gears/
>
>
>
> I made some horizontal clamps using 80/20 and a shopfox clamp.  They
> worked like champs and cost less than the legacy versions and had a quicker
> setup.
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/horizontal_clamps/
>
>
>
> Then I really started thinking to much about indexing.  I made a couple
> pages that some people have not seen.
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/index_system/
>
>
>
> This is different than from crank handle indexing, that’s Mike Input.
>
>
>
> Here’s another thing I made for my rotary table.  I don’t like having the
> handle in the inside of the machine so I made two versions, and sold the
> second.  It makes so much sense to just shim your rotary table and direct
> connect to the spindle and therefore the crank.  So Simple!
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/rotary_table_mods/
>
>
>
> Making life even easier I sold and x and y lock system for the 900’s
> Simple lock plates and knobs and a bracket and you can ditch your slipping
> shaft collars on the acme screws. The nob on the y axis has been replaced
> with the 5 star comfort fit knob.
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/x_axis_lock/
>
>
>
> So that’s the easy stuff that I have found.  I’ll continue to show other
> items as I dig into some old computers and flash drives.  I hope this helps
> others.
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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Re: TK Made Items

[Tim Ziegler]

That indexable table I am really interested in creating for my Rotary
table.
We are looking hard at a laser engraver for the business and may consider
trying to cut those out. Thoughts? Tim
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 7:08 AM Tim  wrote:

> I found some other simple links.  Keep in mind, some of this is really
> old.
>
>
>
> Here’s some attempts at making the rotary table easier to use.
>
>
>
> This is one of my favorites.
>
> https://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/TK_rotary_table_indexing/index.html
>
>
>
> This is a huge time saver for small parts and large a well.  Centering
> difficulties have been eliminated.  My only change after this was to add a
> low profile t-track (not shown) for additional clamping opportunities.
>
>
>
> https://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/TK_rotary_table_indexing/index.html
>
>
>
>
>
> I didn’t make this, but I discovered the harbor freight dial indicators
> fit perfect in the router from hell.  No need for my digital scale
> conversion. I’ll admit I mostly use my digital scale though.
>
>
>
> https://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/z-axis_dial_indicator/index.html
>
>
>
> Well I  think that is all the simple links to my stuff.  There are so many
> pictures to come.
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: TK Made Items

[Tim Ziegler]

Tim this is awesome and will help carry on the legacy of the "LEGACY". I
wished I would have bought one when they first come
out but I didn't so I am like a 57 year old kid with a new toy. Though I
bought it for my business I sure want to do everything I can
with it. So again thanks for keeping the LEGACY alive Tim.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 6:55 AM Tim  wrote:

>
>
> I’ve been asked by a lot of members in the group if I have a catalog of
> everything I’ve ever made for the Legacy Mill.  I don’t.  So I’m starting a
> topic of items that I’ve made and have long forgotten or still would make
> if there is enough Interest.  I’m going to post them slowly over the next
> few weeks as I find them.  There will be no specific order.  So here it
> goes.
>
>
>
> Taller Legs for model 900 2” extension, also made 3” and a 4” extension
> legs.
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/legacy-ornamental-mills/LukcjELgxvg/Owpgaq7DxeoJ
>
>
>
> My QC Direction changer.  After talking with Curt George about the idea of
> a better direction changer I came up with this.
>
>
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/legacy-ornamental-mills/LHkNujx8wkc/eewTSJa8wNoJ
>
>
>
> That Post shows my TK Reciprocator inspired by the Atkins reciprocator
> from an antique machine. Mine has more travel and options.  It needs to be
> updated.
>
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/waveattachment.html
>
>
>
> where does the time go…
>
>
>
> One of the easiest way to level you 900 bed was with my TK Bed Height
> Adjustment Tool.  Four plates with a specific hole pattern to enable close
> to infinite adjustments My extended height legs shown already implemented a
> similar hole pattern so the rods could still be used for leveling your bed.
>
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/bedheightadjustment/bedheightadjustment.html
>
>
>
> An extended gear set that fills in some holes in the standard set of
> pitches.  The truth is I can cut gear from about the 16 tooth to 120. I
> don’t cut Legacy gears that are available from the factory.
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/extra_legacy_gears/
>
>
>
> I made some horizontal clamps using 80/20 and a shopfox clamp.  They
> worked like champs and cost less than the legacy versions and had a quicker
> setup.
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/horizontal_clamps/
>
>
>
> Then I really started thinking to much about indexing.  I made a couple
> pages that some people have not seen.
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/index_system/
>
>
>
> This is different than from crank handle indexing, that’s Mike Input.
>
>
>
> Here’s another thing I made for my rotary table.  I don’t like having the
> handle in the inside of the machine so I made two versions, and sold the
> second.  It makes so much sense to just shim your rotary table and direct
> connect to the spindle and therefore the crank.  So Simple!
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/rotary_table_mods/
>
>
>
> Making life even easier I sold and x and y lock system for the 900’s
> Simple lock plates and knobs and a bracket and you can ditch your slipping
> shaft collars on the acme screws. The nob on the y axis has been replaced
> with the 5 star comfort fit knob.
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/x_axis_lock/
>
>
>
> So that’s the easy stuff that I have found.  I’ll continue to show other
> items as I dig into some old computers and flash drives.  I hope this helps
> others.
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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RE: TK Made Items

[Tim]

I found some other simple links.  Keep in mind, some of this is really old.  

Here’s some attempts at making the rotary table easier to use. 

This is one of my favorites.
https://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/TK_rotary_table_indexing/index.html

This is a huge time saver for small parts and large a well.  Centering 
difficulties have been eliminated.  My only change after this was to add a low 
profile t-track (not shown) for additional clamping opportunities. 

https://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/TK_rotary_table_indexing/index.html


I didn’t make this, but I discovered the harbor freight dial indicators fit 
perfect in the router from hell.  No need for my digital scale conversion. I’ll 
admit I mostly use my digital scale though.

https://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/z-axis_dial_indicator/index.html

Well I  think that is all the simple links to my stuff.  There are so many 
pictures to come.

Tim



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TK Made Items

[Tim]

I’ve been asked by a lot of members in the group if I have a catalog of 
everything I’ve ever made for the Legacy Mill.  I don’t.  So I’m starting a 
topic of items that I’ve made and have long forgotten or still would make if 
there is enough Interest.  I’m going to post them slowly over the next few 
weeks as I find them.  There will be no specific order.  So here it goes.

Taller Legs for model 900 2” extension, also made 3” and a 4” extension legs.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/legacy-ornamental-mills/LukcjELgxvg/Owpgaq7DxeoJ

My QC Direction changer.  After talking with Curt George about the idea of a 
better direction changer I came up with this. 

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/legacy-ornamental-mills/LHkNujx8wkc/eewTSJa8wNoJ

That Post shows my TK Reciprocator inspired by the Atkins reciprocator from an 
antique machine. Mine has more travel and options.  It needs to be updated. 

http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/waveattachment.html

where does the time go…

One of the easiest way to level you 900 bed was with my TK Bed Height 
Adjustment Tool.  Four plates with a specific hole pattern to enable close to 
infinite adjustments My extended height legs shown already implemented a 
similar hole pattern so the rods could still be used for leveling your bed. 

http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/bedheightadjustment/bedheightadjustment.html

An extended gear set that fills in some holes in the standard set of pitches.  
The truth is I can cut gear from about the 16 tooth to 120. I don’t cut Legacy 
gears that are available from the factory.  

http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/extra_legacy_gears/

I made some horizontal clamps using 80/20 and a shopfox clamp.  They worked 
like champs and cost less than the legacy versions and had a quicker setup.

http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/horizontal_clamps/

Then I really started thinking to much about indexing.  I made a couple pages 
that some people have not seen. 

http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/index_system/

This is different than from crank handle indexing, that’s Mike Input. 

Here’s another thing I made for my rotary table.  I don’t like having the 
handle in the inside of the machine so I made two versions, and sold the 
second.  It makes so much sense to just shim your rotary table and direct 
connect to the spindle and therefore the crank.  So Simple!

http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/rotary_table_mods/

Making life even easier I sold and x and y lock system for the 900’s  Simple 
lock plates and knobs and a bracket and you can ditch your slipping shaft 
collars on the acme screws. The nob on the y axis has been replaced with the 5 
star comfort fit knob.

http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/x_axis_lock/

So that’s the easy stuff that I have found.  I’ll continue to show other items 
as I dig into some old computers and flash drives.  I hope this helps others.

Tim











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