Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location List help

[Linda McCauley]

Sherry,
Bing Maps seems to be working fine for me (finds locations and gives
directions) but I'm having the same problems as the others from within
Legacy on both my XP desktop and Vista laptop (using IE8 on both).
I've never had a problem with mapping before this.

Linda M.


On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Sherry/Support
 wrote:
>
> I think you’ve hit on it, Todd.  Legacy’s mapping calls up Bing (was Virtual
> Earth) and if there are problems with that website, you'll encounter
> problems using the mapping in Legacy.
>
> If you're having problems with Legacy's mapping, go directly to Bing/Virtual
> Earth and see if there are problems on the MS website.
> http://www.bing.com/maps/
>
> Thanks for using Legacy.
>
> Sherry
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
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>
> We are changing the world of genealogy!
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> When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
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>
> Original Message-
>
> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
> Of T. A. Halpern
> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:56 PM
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Master Location List help
>
> I am having the same problem.  After using Legacy 7.0 Deluxe for the past
> four months (running it with XP/SP-2 and IE8) with no mapping-function
> problems, today I found that the mapping function no longer works.  The
> symtoms are the same as described below by Charles Apple and also as
> reported today on the user group by Kay Fordham.  I am wondering if
> something changed in the Bing mapping resource that rendered Legacy's map
> function inoperable?
>
> Todd
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Center - Undo "Set Preferred"

[Linda McCauley]

Another suggestion - import a test file of you data to Legacy and just
play around with it for awhile. Try entering information in different
ways and then checking various reports and the many options within
those reports to see how it looks, what you like and don't like. In
general, get familiar with all of the features. I did this for about 2
months when I moved from FTM v.16 to Legacy a couple of years ago and
I think it was time very well spent. During this time, I tried to
clicked on everything in Legacy to get a feel for what could be done.
Then after I felt comfortable with the software and had an idea of how
I wanted to set things up, I imported a clean file, tagged everyone in
the file with Tag 1 and started to work. I looked at each person,
added events and photos and made sure they were set up like I wanted
then deleted the tag so I knew I had finished that person. That took
some serious time (and I still have some cousins I haven't done) but I
started with my direct line and the siblings of my direct line because
they are the people I have the most details about.

As to your question about whether or not "Grave" is the best way to go
for tombstone photos - it's really just your preference. I added an
event "Grave Marker" (the event name doesn't really matter) to which I
attach tombstone photos. My main emphasis is a website and I wanted
the tombstone photo to be the last thing displayed on the person's
webpage.

Linda
www.lfmccauley.com


On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 11:38 AM, William H. Boswell
 wrote:
>
> This is a lot of work reorganizing all this stuff again.  I did this last
> year in FTM and it took almost a year.  However, Legacy has better output
> than FTM ever will.
>
> I'm wondering if my Grave field for individual tombstone photos is the way
> to go with this.  Somebody else said they put it under Cemetery.  I'm
> thinking later on when I want to print out a list of people buried in a
> particular cemetery I would like to have all this information included.
>
> I don't know enough about Legacy to figure out the best way to organize this
> data.  Although cleanup has to be done.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
> Behalf Of Dennis M. Kowallek
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:03 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Center - Undo "Set Preferred"
>
>
> On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 07:47:23 -0400, "William H. Boswell"
>  wrote:
>
> >I figured out how to move the images from Individual to my Grave
> >position using the Pic Center.
>
> I don't think they will get printed from there in many reports, if that
> is a concern.
>
> --
>
> Dennis Kowallek (LTools)
> http://zippersoftware.com/ltools
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools
>
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location

[Linda McCauley]

Bill,
I think you misunderstood me. I was trying to say that if you enter
the complete address in the location field then that exact place CAN
be plotted on the map. That's why I think it's a waste of the mapping
feature to enter just the city, county, state, country in the location
field. I've even plotted locations that didn't have an actual street
address - like "[[John Taylor Farm, ]]County, State". I put privacy
brackets around the part that wouldn't look right on printed reports
but I can still document the exact location of the property. Of
course, in that situation, I have to set the marker where it should be
on the map. As someone else mentioned (Ron, I think), I keep my
locations sorted right to left so that locations in a particular town
or county are together in the location master list.

Linda



On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 6:26 PM, William H. Boswell  wrote:
> Thanks for the tips.  I really don't like the mapping feature anyway
> because, as you said, you can't plot the entire house number and street.  I
> really don't care about the city unless to just verify that it ever existed.
> I am not going to move the addresses, but already moved a few cemetery
> names--one for more than 200 people buried there.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
> Behalf Of Linda McCauley
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 2:58 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from
> Location
>
>
> Bill,
> Before you jump into changing everything, let me recommend that you
> enter a few both ways then run some test reports and web pages (if you
> are going to create a website) to see how they look to you. Also check
> out how the information displays within Legacy - especially the
> mapping feature. I prefer to have the full address in the location
> field and also include the cemetery name in the burial location field.
> Others on this list do the same. It seems to me a terrible waste of
> the mapping feature to only plot a town when you could plot the exact
> location. As far as I know, entering a full address or a cemetery name
> in the location field does not cause any problems. One of the things I
> like about Legacy is that there is often more than one way to do
> something and you can find the way that you like best.
>
> Linda
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:54 PM, William H. Boswell 
> wrote:
>> I know this is going to be confusing which is why I can't find it in the
>> Help of Legacy.  I looked at a tutorial online at the Legacy website and
>> found that it was recommended that cemetery names be moved from the Buried
>> field leaving only the city and state.  A spent a long time putting them
>> there in FTM 2009 because it seemed appropriate, but I can understand why
>> they shouldn't be there now.
>>
>> Multiple Questions on this one:
>>
>> 1)  I tagged all the cemeteries that need to have their name moved by
>> clicking on the plus sign.  Is there a way I can first show all the tagged
>> items and start moving cemetery names from there.  I can't find anything
>> within the program that lets you show tagged items only so what's the
> point
>> of tagging if you can't?
>>
>> 2)  Should this be done for all locations including residences where the
>> person lived?  I have a lot of those and just started, but didn't finish
>> because I don't want to have to revert back with hundreds of them.
>>
>> 3)  Are mailing list addresses just for living people or residences where
>> the person lived (i.e., census, death notices, etc.).  This question kind
> of
>> goes with item 2.
>>
>> 4)  Master List Location list:  only city and state?
>>
>> I'm finding this very confusing.  I think I'm going to have to purchase
> and
>> download the PDF manual then read the entire thing.
>>
>> Bill Boswell
>>
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location

[Linda McCauley]

Bill,
Before you jump into changing everything, let me recommend that you
enter a few both ways then run some test reports and web pages (if you
are going to create a website) to see how they look to you. Also check
out how the information displays within Legacy - especially the
mapping feature. I prefer to have the full address in the location
field and also include the cemetery name in the burial location field.
Others on this list do the same. It seems to me a terrible waste of
the mapping feature to only plot a town when you could plot the exact
location. As far as I know, entering a full address or a cemetery name
in the location field does not cause any problems. One of the things I
like about Legacy is that there is often more than one way to do
something and you can find the way that you like best.

Linda


On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:54 PM, William H. Boswell  wrote:
> I know this is going to be confusing which is why I can't find it in the
> Help of Legacy.  I looked at a tutorial online at the Legacy website and
> found that it was recommended that cemetery names be moved from the Buried
> field leaving only the city and state.  A spent a long time putting them
> there in FTM 2009 because it seemed appropriate, but I can understand why
> they shouldn't be there now.
>
> Multiple Questions on this one:
>
> 1)  I tagged all the cemeteries that need to have their name moved by
> clicking on the plus sign.  Is there a way I can first show all the tagged
> items and start moving cemetery names from there.  I can't find anything
> within the program that lets you show tagged items only so what's the point
> of tagging if you can't?
>
> 2)  Should this be done for all locations including residences where the
> person lived?  I have a lot of those and just started, but didn't finish
> because I don't want to have to revert back with hundreds of them.
>
> 3)  Are mailing list addresses just for living people or residences where
> the person lived (i.e., census, death notices, etc.).  This question kind of
> goes with item 2.
>
> 4)  Master List Location list:  only city and state?
>
> I'm finding this very confusing.  I think I'm going to have to purchase and
> download the PDF manual then read the entire thing.
>
> Bill Boswell
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses

[Linda McCauley]

Carolyn,
Master Location notes actually can be printed. If you create a
location index in reports there is an option to include the location
notes in that index. They can also be included in the Location Report.
That said, I only use the location notes field for things like
directions to cemeteries or a family property or to indicate that the
map pinpoint is an approximate location. If I have information about a
location that I want included as part of a person's story, I do as Ron
does and put them in event notes as I subscribe to the same policy of
using the tools available to get the result I want regardless of how
they were intended.

Linda M.



On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:07 PM, ronald ferguson wrote:
>
> Carolyn,
>
> As you will realise, I don't use the Notes fields for Locations (and 
> obviously for Addresses). However, each Location is attached to an Event and 
> each Event has a Note field into which I put everything I wish to put about 
> the location.
>
> For example my grandfather fought in WW1 and saw action from Ypres in Belgium 
> to Framville in France where he was wounded. I do not know where his regiment 
> was exactly at any one time, so in the Location field I have put "Europe" and 
> in the Notes put all the battles in which he fought during the 12 months he 
> was out there.
>
> My serious point is that I am a pragmatist and utilise the tools available to 
> do what *I* want and if one way won't then I will find another. Why one way 
> doesn't is not really my concern, unless, of course one is then left with no 
> alternative, in which case it becomes a problem.
>
> BTW just out of interest where would you like the Location/Address notes to 
> print in Reports?
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> _
>
> Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
>

>
> 
>> From: wood...@msn.com
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses
>> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 09:50:05 -0700
>>
>> Agreed - even if you're not having funBut here, I think that the
>> assumption is that if we can enter something, we assume that the information
>> can be printed somehow.
>>
>> We can enter Event Address notes, and we can enter notes for Master
>> Locations on the Add/Edit Location screen, but those notes can be accessed
>> ONLY on the computer. I can understand not wanting to ALWAYS print those
>> notes, but it would be nice to have the option to include them in a report.
>> Some of these places have interesting histories, but I can't print them out
>> anywhere!
>>
>>
>> Carolyn
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
>> Of ronald ferguson
>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 1:43 AM
>> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses
>>
>>
>> Paula,
>>
>> Now, that is a question which I never bother to ask myself about any
>> software! I am only ever interested in what it does and how can I use it to
>> my advantage. Life is too short ... :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>>
>> _
>>
>> Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
>> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
>> _
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 22:41:04 -0700
>>> From: paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
>>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>>>
>>>
>>> I think I understand both Ron and Carolyn's viewpoints, but what I'd like
>> to know is...
>>>
>>> What was Legacy's intent for these Event Addresses when they added them? I
>> just can't understand why they aren't included in web pages as they are in
>> reports. Does the originally intended usage of Event Addresses not "apply"
>> to web pages, or are there just many fewer "report" options available for
>> generating web pages? If the latter, are there plans for the "missing"
>> options to be added?
>>>
>>> Lastly, why give us Event Address Notes if we can't print them anywhere?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> --Paula in Texas
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Sat, 6/27/09, ronald ferguson wrote:
>>>
 From: ronald ferguson
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Saturday, June 27, 2009, 12:51 PM

 Thank you for the last piece of the puzzle.

>>>

Re: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses

[Linda McCauley]

In addition to the reasons already mentioned by others, I like the
ability to mark each cemetery location on the map. (Many times the
mapping feature will automatically find the actual cemetery but if
not, I can manually mark it.)

Linda M.


On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Cathy  wrote:
>
> I've a question to all who place the cemetery name into the Location field: 
> why don't you use the Burial Address section?
>
> I use the Burial Address section and when I want to see who I have buried in 
> a specific cemetery, I can go into Burial Address -> Address List.  Then I 
> select a specific cemetery, click on the Show List button and then click on 
> the Print button.  Then when I go to the cemetery to take photographs, I have 
> the list of everyone I need to find.  If I want several cemeteries, I can tag 
> them and print those tagged lists.
>
> Also, once I've placed a cemetery into the Burial List, I can call it up from 
> the Address List and I don't have to recreate the name and address over and 
> over again.  I can also add the cemetery's phone number, GPS coordinates, web 
> address and additional information in the cemetery's notes fields (i.e., 
> directions on getting there or notes on how old the cemetery is.)
>
> I realize that different people have different styles, but I was curious as 
> to why you would prefer placing cemetery names into a location field and 
> getting reports that way as opposed to using the cemetery burial address 
> field which allows for so much more.
>
> Just curious.
>
> Cathy
>
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Change content of Event fields for many records at once

[Linda McCauley]

Dale,
Go to the Census Event definition and add the word household after
[Desc]. It won't show up in the description field in each individual
event but will be there in reports.

Linda M.


On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Dale Benson  wrote:
>
> What's the best way to edit the content of a specific Event field in many 
> records all at once? For example, all of my Census Events have been 
> created with the name of the head of household in the Description field. I 
> would like to edit those now to include the word "household" after the 
> person's name. What is now John Doe, for example, would become John Doe 
> household.
> Dale Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Is there a listing of websites created using Legacy

[Linda McCauley]

Sean,
Mine is http://www.lfmccauley.com/. The front end pages (anything from
the navigation bar) were created with another software but the Family
Tree File was created by Legacy using the "pedigree" style. I'm happy
with the Legacy generated pages because I like having pictures mixed
in with the person's info (which I couldn't easily do with my previous
software). To see examples with the pictures, click on some of the
names in the home page narrative.

Linda


On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Sean and Sue Moylan
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm still trying to come to grips with creating a website using Legacy. I'd
> be interested in seeing what other people have managed.
> Thanks,
>
> Sean Moylan, Mt Riverview, NSW, Australia.
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Triple Copies of Messages

[Linda McCauley]

No problems here (and I'm using Gmail).

Linda M.

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Mike Fry  wrote:
> Ron Goodwin wrote:
>>
>> For the last few days I have been receiving three copies of each and every
>> message sent to the LUG.
>>
>> Is anyone else having this problem?
>>
>
> Short answer... No. How are you looking at messages? Ah Gmail! They've been
> having MASSIVE problems!
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg.
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Delete some items in Location list

[Linda McCauley]

>From Location list, highlight the location you want to delete and
select "Options" (right under the Close button). Delete is the 1st
option. There is also an option to Purge Unused locations.

Linda M.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Pat Jones  wrote:
>
> I need to delete some items from my location list.  No one is
> using the item so I can't go there and delete it and I can't find
> any way to delete it in the list itself.  There's probably 30 or
> so that I'd like to delete and it's a big database.  Help and/or
> suggestions?
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Has anyone

[Linda McCauley]

Michele,
In case you ever need it again - on the GEDCOM Import window, click on
"Customize", under "Note Options" select "Lines are broken iin the
middle of words".

Linda M.

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Michele Lewis
 wrote:
> That happened to me too!  I got the spaces in the notes section but I didn't
> know I could have avoided that.
>
> michele
>
> - Original Message - From: "Linda McCauley"
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Has anyone
>
>
>> Toni,
>> I switched from FTM to Legacy over a year ago and no one can make me
>> go back. I had a slight problem when I imported my FTM created GedCom
>> the 1st time - I ended up with spaces in the middle of words in notes.
>> That was long before I knew about this group so I e-mailed support
>> (thinking I was just advising them of a problem they had). Imagine my
>> surprise when less than 24 hours later I had a response from Sherry in
>> Legacy Support advising how to correct my problem with some options in
>> the import window. I had contacted FTM many times over the years but
>> never got a response to anything. I had also spent years wishing I
>> could get certain reports or find certain groups of records in FTM.
>> Those days are over with Legacy.
>>
>> One thing I did that I found helpful was to import a file and just
>> play with it for a couple of months. I clicked on everything in Legacy
>> to see what happened or what that option could do for me and tried out
>> all sorts of options in reports. Once I felt like I had a good handle
>> on it, I threw away that file, imported a clean one and actually went
>> back to real work.
>>
>> Linda M.
>>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Has anyone

[Linda McCauley]

Ron,
I should have added that even that exercise didn't teach me nearly
everything, I'm still learning things from this group every day.

I found it easier to play with my own ancestors just because I know
them better. If I needed someone with 3 marriages to test something, I
knew just who to go to.

Linda M.


On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:53 AM, ronald ferguson  wrote:
>
> Linda,
>
> Your last paragraph is good advice for anybody using Legacy for the first 
> time, even without downloading an existing database - and not just left 
> clicking either as there are many functions available with right clicking. It 
> is worth remembering that the Help Files are usually more up to date than the 
> manuals since they are generally changed when updates arise.
>
> A Sample File is provided for this exercise.
>
>
> Ron Ferguson

>
> 
>> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:53:49 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Has anyone
>> From: lindafmccau...@gmail.com
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>>
>> Toni,
>> I switched from FTM to Legacy over a year ago and no one can make me
>> go back. I had a slight problem when I imported my FTM created GedCom
>> the 1st time - I ended up with spaces in the middle of words in notes.
>> That was long before I knew about this group so I e-mailed support
>> (thinking I was just advising them of a problem they had). Imagine my
>> surprise when less than 24 hours later I had a response from Sherry in
>> Legacy Support advising how to correct my problem with some options in
>> the import window. I had contacted FTM many times over the years but
>> never got a response to anything. I had also spent years wishing I
>> could get certain reports or find certain groups of records in FTM.
>> Those days are over with Legacy.
>>
>> One thing I did that I found helpful was to import a file and just
>> play with it for a couple of months. I clicked on everything in Legacy
>> to see what happened or what that option could do for me and tried out
>> all sorts of options in reports. Once I felt like I had a good handle
>> on it, I threw away that file, imported a clean one and actually went
>> back to real work.
>>
>> Linda M.
>>
>>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Has anyone

[Linda McCauley]

Toni,
I switched from FTM to Legacy over a year ago and no one can make me
go back. I had a slight problem when I imported my FTM created GedCom
the 1st time - I ended up with spaces in the middle of words in notes.
That was long before I knew about this group so I e-mailed support
(thinking I was just advising them of a problem they had). Imagine my
surprise when less than 24 hours later I had a response from Sherry in
Legacy Support advising how to correct my problem with some options in
the import window. I had contacted FTM many times over the years but
never got a response to anything. I had also spent years wishing I
could get certain reports or find certain groups of records in FTM.
Those days are over with Legacy.

One thing I did that I found helpful was to import a file and just
play with it for a couple of months. I clicked on everything in Legacy
to see what happened or what that option could do for me and tried out
all sorts of options in reports. Once I felt like I had a good handle
on it, I threw away that file, imported a clean one and actually went
back to real work.

Linda M.


On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 7:04 PM, toni evans  wrote:
>
>
> Has anyone else had converting problems that I am experiencing with FTM 
> gedcom sent to Legacy De Luxe prog.
>
> I knew that there would be more problems the like of which I have never 
> struck in 20 yrs. of genealogy.
>
> Right now would like to feel I am not alone in this and so I wonder is the 
> prog. worth it especially reading all the problems showing on the list which 
> I have not started on.
>
> Toni
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Re: [LegacyUG] Why are we using this mailing list?

[Linda McCauley]

Marilyn,
Just a thought - I also use gmail. When you say it says Plain Text, do
you mean you are seeing those words in the space just above the body
of your e-mail? If yes, then in gmail, that actually means you are in
Rich Text (HTML). The wording "Plain Text" is a link to switch to
plain text.

Linda

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:47 AM, marilyn E B  wrote:
> Must be your computer. I checked my settings, sent messages to friends and
> all says Plain Text. I have never had a complaint from the list that I send
> in HTML.
> Marilyn
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Mike Fry  wrote:
>>
>> marilyn E B wrote:
>>>
>>> I belong to several/many RootsWeb lists and have little problem with spam
>>> or spammers. For that try the Grouply Group on Yahoo. That means do not get
>>> involved with Grouply.
>>
>> I wouldn't touch that with a barge-pole!
>>
>>> At least on RootsWeb they only send reminders to try not to use HTML and
>>> not a bunch of nasty letters if someone forgets. I do not use HTML as that
>>> was the first thing I learned years ago on RootsWeb.
>>
>> Then why was your message in HTML :-)
>>
>>> RootsWeb has had a few problems with servers this year but then so have
>>> we. I would be most interested in knowing who the list administrator is for
>>> the RootsWeb Legacy List. That can make or break a list.
>>> I actually enjoy this list but the tone from some does often turn me off
>>> - naysayers are not good examples for any group.
>>
>> When you know who they are, filter 'em out. Don't listen to 'em!
>>
>>> Maybe joining both would be the way to go.
>>
>> Stay where the experts stay!
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Mike Fry
>> Johannesburg.
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey: Error 91

[Linda McCauley]

Mike,
I'm using a Dell Inspiron 1525 36 bit and am not having this Error 91
problem. However, I still think you are on to something here as Dell
does have some registry problems that others don't seem to have.
Installing iTunes on this machine made the DVD drive disappear,
unstalling it brought the DVD drive back. I know 2 other people with
Dell/Vista machines that had this iTunes problem (which can be fixed
with a registry change that I haven't tried yet - I just use iTunes on
my non Dell XP desktop).
Linda


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>
> Hi All,
>
> Out of curiosity, can people who are experiencing this Error 91 problem, tell 
> us what brand of hardware they're running on? From a quick look, it appears 
> that DELL machine owners are those most affected.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg.
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Re: [LegacyUG] how to source unidentified newspaper clipping

[Linda McCauley]

I use Artifacts.

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Bernard Doddema wrote:

> I guess the subject says it all.  How would I go about sourcing an
> unidentified newspaper clipping meaning there is no title, date, don't
> know the column, page number, etc.?
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events

[Linda McCauley]

My preference is to use Events so I can attach photos and/or documents
specific to the event or time frame. I intend to eventually use Legacy
created web pages to update my web site (once I get everything setup)
and this will allow photos and documents to be mixed with text
throughout a person's page. Another advantage to Events over Notes is
that you can see at a glance what you have (or what you are missing)
for a person.

Linda



On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 6:04 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm having some personal conflict in whether to add data as a note or an 
> event and would like some views on where folks place specific data .
>
> For example - I have a biography from relative A - should I enter it under 
> the notes or make it an event?  another - If entering 1860 census data 
> showing Uncle Joe's family and those living in his household - note or event?
>
> Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative : (1) 
>  If I enter data as a note, the information is located immediately under the 
> persons name as a flowing narrative,  which can get rather lengthy plus would 
> require adding my sourcing information to the narrative if I wanted to show 
> where I got the information; OR (2) if entered as an event, the data becomes 
> a short  cryptic entry after the name with a footnote.  I do note that the 
> entire data can appear in the footnote, together with the sourcing material,  
> providing that feature is elected when setting up the source detail (i.e., 
> selecting  'Add this text to the source citation on reports' ).
>
> It may be that personal preference dictates this, but I would appreciate some 
> insight from others on how they use the notes and events feature.
>
> Bob
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Re: [LegacyUG] Turn off screen that pops up when pasting source from clipboard

[Linda McCauley]

To turn off the popup, open the source clipboard and uncheck "prompt
for detail" in the lower left of the screen. I believe in previous
versions Legacy retained whichever option (on or off) you chose until
you actually changed it - even when you copied a new source to the
clipboard. It appears that now everytime you save a new source to the
clipboard it is automatically setting prompt for detail "on"
regardless if it was off for the previous source.
Linda

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:38 AM, Richard Van Wasshnova
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I concur with Steve. I never saw a prompt for detail popup with v.55
> or before but do now with v.76 and would like it off please.
> Since Elizabeth had it with both versions it must have been an option
> before but I don't see how to change it. I have v.55 on one computer
> and v.76 on other. I can't turn off the popup on v.76 nor turn on with
> v.55.
> --
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Re: [LegacyUG] Can't use certain reports

[Linda McCauley]

These reports are working fine for me with Vista OS.
Linda

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Arleen Huesman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am also having this problem. This is happening on the Vista OS computer.
> The XP OS computer is working fine. Is it a problem with Legacy and Vista?
>
> Thanks. Arleen Huesman
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Bernard Doddema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> When I go to Reports, All Reports, there are two reports that I cannot
>> access: Form Center and Interview Questions
>>
>> I receive no errors, I'm just not directed to the requested forms.
>>
>> Does anybody have any ideas what could be wrong?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> PS: Just installed the update 7.0.0.76
>> --
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Re: [LegacyUG] Backup or file creation procedure when you want to have updated family files

[Linda McCauley]

Vicki,
What you are trying to do can be done as follows:
1. Run a back-up (File, Back up Family File), give the file the
current name. (Do this from the menu, not upon closing Legacy.)
2. Rename the file you have open (File, Rename Family File) - if you
have Legacy set to open the last file used, it will open the renamed
file the next time.

To have access to the Backup, you must select File, Restore Family
File. You can then select the backup version you want and Legacy will
unzip and open that file. It's been about a year but I think that's
very similar to the way a FTM Backup file had to be opened (even
though it wasn't in a zip file).

With that said, you may be making extra work for yourself. Before the
latest Legacy update, you could have just added the date to your
backups and kept using the same name for your main file. This process
got easier with the latest Legacy Update.  Version. 7.0.0.76
automatically adds the date and time to backup files so by just doing
a normal backup each time you close Legacy or whenever needed, you
will be creating a dated copy which can be restored if needed.

Linda


On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 8:16 PM, v pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am about 1/3 of the way into entering individuals from my FTM program into 
> Legacy.  I have checked on the archives and cannot find enough information 
> for a question that I am having with backing up my family file. The book 
> merely tells me that backing up is a good idea but doesn't go into any 
> procedures or details.
>
> Here is what I want to do:  I want to backup my family file every week to a 
> new updated family file.  My first family file backup was named 20081120 
> (indicating to me the date I created it).  I'd like it to keep creating an 
> updated family file on a weekly basis.  When I open Legacy, I'd like the most 
> updated version of my family file to open or at least have the capability of 
> opening the most updated family file via the FILE > OPEN FAMILY FILE command.
>
>
> What happens is that when I open Legacy, my original family file opens 
> (20081120) but is updated as if it were my newest family file.  When I go to 
> FILE > OPEN FAMILY FILE, the only family file that is listed is my original 
> one 20081120.fdb
>
> I want to be able to do this because I have over 9,000 individuals in my 
> original FTM file and I am manually entering them one-by-one into Legacy.  I 
> want to be able to make weekly updated family files so that if I make an 
> error in data entry I can go back to an earlier family file.
>
> 1)  Why don't I have access to my backup ZIP files when I go to FILE > OPEN 
> FAMILY FILE?
> 2)  Why must I save my backups in a ZIP format, when the FILE > OPEN FAMILY 
> FILE will not open ZIP files or even display them?  (The only way I can see 
> them is to use My Computer to see them, or when I go to make an new backup)
> 3)  Does anyone have a good procedure for creating new .fdb files as backup 
> files or what I can do to keep several versions of my family files with the 
> ability to access any of them at any time?
>
>
> Sorry for being so wordy.  I sure will appreciate help in doing this.
>
> ~~Vicki


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Re: [LegacyUG] Funeral service papers and how to Cite

[Linda McCauley]

Try Artifacts, privately held.

(Also you could still scan the original document - just scan each
legal page in 2 pieces.)

Linda


On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Sheri Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have found in some of my late grandmothers photos, etc., a transcription
> of a funeral service for her uncle, who was very prominent in the church and
> community. The subject died in 1944 and the papers I'm sure are not original
> as she had a couple of sets and do not seem to be carbon copies. However,
> these copies are now about 50 years old. It's several pages long on "legal"
> size paper and has been typewritten, probably by someone in the church, but
> nothing notated as who typed it, etc. I have re-typed it just as it has been
> typed, into a word document as to preserve the event, since I cannot scan
> these papers due to the size (it's limitations with my scanner). I have
> created a PDF file of the word document and attached it to the event. In EE,
> it explains how to do funeral extracts by the funeral home, but I don't know
> if the funeral home did this or the church, or if this is an extract. So my
> question is, how would I cite this document? Using v7.
>
> Thanks in advance!!
>
> Sheri
>
> Researching the families of McDonald, Harris, Prater, Moose, West, Trimmer,
> Stockburger and more.
> www.westharrisfamily.com
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Re: [LegacyUG] Childrens settings - step, adopted, twin etc

[Linda McCauley]

I don't know what to tell you then. It works fine for me. They appear
in family view as: First Middle Surname (Birthyear-Deathyear)
(Status). If the child doesn't have a status they appear as: First
Middle Surname (Birthyear-Deathyear).

Hopefully, someone else with more experience will have an answer as to
why you aren't getting the same result.

Linda


On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Mark K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for the instructions.
> I have this turned on already
> This will show if they have a spouse or have children but for me it doesn't
> show if they are twin, adopted, stillborn etc
>
> Elizabeth - nice to see another ex reunion user.  The program was amazing at
> the time it came out.
>
> 
>> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 22:37:42 -0400
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Childrens settings - step, adopted, twin etc
>>
>> To see child status in family view, go to Options, Customize, View and
>> under "Show Status on Family View", check the box for "on children".
>> The child status will then display in family view (assuming a child
>> status has been set thru "Children's Settings"). Note that if you have
>> multiple columns of children showing in family view there may not be
>> room to see the child status.
>>
>> Linda
>>
>>
>> 2008/10/17 Elizabeth Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >
>> > But the original poster is correct. There is no way to show specific
>> > settings in Family View for children who are twins or stillborn, or are
>> > adopted. In Reunion for Windows, these children had specific colors and
>> > could be differentiated at a glance. Legacy does provide some
>> > differentiation for step-children, and, of course, there is the gender 
>> > color
>> > difference, but not the multiplity of choices available in the other
>> > program.
>> >
>> > Elizabeth
>> > researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson
>> >


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Re: [LegacyUG] Childrens settings - step, adopted, twin etc

[Linda McCauley]

To see child status in family view, go to Options, Customize, View and
under "Show Status on Family View", check the box for "on children".
The child status will then display in family view (assuming a child
status has been set thru "Children's Settings"). Note that if you have
multiple columns of children showing in family view there may not be
room to see the child status.

Linda


2008/10/17 Elizabeth Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> But the original poster is correct. There is no way to show specific settings 
> in Family View for children who are twins or stillborn, or are adopted. In 
> Reunion for Windows, these children had specific colors and could be 
> differentiated at a glance. Legacy does provide some differentiation for 
> step-children, and, of course, there is the gender color difference, but not 
> the multiplity of choices available in the other program.
>
> Elizabeth
> researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

[Linda McCauley]

Ruth
Your problem with Event Defination "private" button not sticking might
be a misunderstanding on your part.  I have a particular event marked
private through the Master Event List but on each individual event the
Private button is not checked.  The event is correctly omitted from
reports.  I believe the Private button on the individual event is for
situations where you don't want every instance of an event private (so
you don't want to mark it through the Event Master List) but you want
the event private for a particular person(s)

Or to put it another way, the private button on the master event and
the one on the individual event are two separate fields.  One covers
every occurence of the event and the other covers only an individual
occurence of the event.

Linda


On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Ruth Nerud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ron, you already know my problems with the Descendent Book Report so I won't
> go into that. These are my newest problems.
>
> Marriage Information screen
> Clicked on Wording Option
> I don't know the spouse's name so I deleted the word someone
> He remarried, don't know that spouse's name so I deleted the word someone
> Should read: Luigi married and Luigi next married
> It reads Luigi married someone and Luigi next married (name unknown), a
> change I made a couple days ago. Must be a .usr file I need to delete, but
> which one?
> (The only way I can do a accurate Descendent Report is in .pdf and since I
> can't edit a .pdf I can't manually change the wording, thereby making the
> .pdf not usable.)
>
> In Name List Screen
> Highlighted one of my ancestors
> Clicked Edit tab
> Clicked the AKA and deleted it.
> Entire Name List went blank.
>
> I added a new source:
> View
> Master Lists
> Event Definition
> Add
> In the Enter an Event Name, etc. I typed Birth Doc. No. and checked the
> Private box
> The check mark doesn't stay. Every time I enter a Birth Doc. No. I have to
> manually check the Private box.
>
> I still don't feel I have the knowledge to do the Gedcom's of my files,
> delete Ver. 7 and download Ver. 6 and know that all my data will download
> into Ver. 6 correctly and fully. What to do? I'm an unhappy camper.
>
> Ruth



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Re: [LegacyUG] Input of Cemetery Names

[Linda McCauley]

You can put anything you want in the location field.  For burials, I
put the cemetery name, town (if there is one or community name
sometimes for rural areas), county and state.  (I don't use the
country unless it is not in US for any of my locations.)

If you want the plot info you can put that in front of the cemetery
name.  Even though Legacy recommends using city, county, state and
country, you can actually enter up to 9 items in the location field
however you want them.  By putting the cemetery name in the location,
I can also pinpoint the actual cemetery on the map.
Linda M.


On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Richard and Evita Piepho
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ron .. in other words Legacy limits one in giving clear information
> the address of a cemetery may have the county city as mailing
> address but it is located on the other end of the county and there
> isnt any city close by the cemetery  your location field does not
> have a place for townships and really sometimes there is a need to
> indicate the section of the township for location purposes ...does
> that mean the only way to work it in maybe is put all my burials in the
> event field and ignore the buried field because of its limitations
> Richard
>
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Input of Cemetery Names
> > Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:58:05 +0100
> >
> >
> > Richard,
> >
> > This will open another can of worms - put it in the Location Field.
> >
> >
> > Ron Ferguson
> >



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Re: [LegacyUG] Saving a Gedcom

[Linda McCauley]

I'd never noticed this before but just tried it and same thing happens
to me.  (I still have FTM installed because I have some extra files
that haven't been transferred to Legacy yet.)  I don't think it's much
of a problem, there's probably some setting in FTM that is "owning"
all gedcoms.  If you want to open it with Legacy, you can open the
properties on the GedCom and change the "opens with" program to Legacy
or right click on the file and select open with Legacy or open Legacy
1st and import it there.


On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Marie Connelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This seems to be a strange problem.  Let me preface this by saying that up 
> until about two years ago I used FTM then switched to Legacy.  I'm running 
> the updated Legacy 7 Deluxe.  I've made a gedcom using a focus group, named 
> it and saved it to my desktop as a gedcom.  Problem is:  it ends up a 
> FTWgedcom which is a Family Tree Maker gedcom.  When I open it my old FTM 
> opening screen comes up and asks for a new file name.
>
> I want to check this gedcom then upload it to ancestry.com and/or send it to 
> a couple of people in my family but now I don't know what I can do.
>
> I used FTM up until about two years ago when I switched over to Legacy.  
> Anyone have any ideas how I can fix this?
>
> Marie



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for Newspapers > Online archives (issued by the publisher)

[Linda McCauley]

Click on Edit for the Repository and add your notes from there.  In
the source window, it simply displays that is in the Repository notes
field.

Linda M.

On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Jessica Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am adding an obituary source using the Source Writer Template of
> Newspapers > Online Archives (issued by the publisher).
>
> When in the Repository screen, I cannot type in the Notes field at the
> bottom of the box.
>
> Is this normal?
>
> Jess M
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Re: [LegacyUG] Alternate Names Ancestry.com and US Census

[Linda McCauley]

In this situation (which I run across pretty often) I don't use AKA because
the person didn't really go by that name (the actual record shows the
correct spelling), it was just indexed wrong by Ancestry.com.  I submit a
correction to Ancestry so it can be found under the correct spelling in the
future and document my source in Legacy using the name on the actual record.

Linda


On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:49 AM, John Magyari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> While searching for my Grandfather 1920 Census via ancestry.com
> ancestry had my grandfather's surname indexed Mazzari, with a Yellow
> triangle next to it indicating other possible names Maggard
>
> When I look at the original it is correctly spelled
> Magyari
>
> Since the original image has it spelled correctly, but a search via
> ancestry,com has it indexed via Mazzari and Maggard (index does NOT have
> Magyari) which are incorrect transcriptions, but in ancestry's index.
>
> 1) How would you place this info in Legacy, so others could potential find
> in future?
> a) AKAs Mazzari and Maggard ??
> b) just in notes?
>
> 2) I run into a similar issue with the 1910 Census
> here the index has it written incorrectly
> Magdyar
> I would assume here I really would use a AKA, correct???
>
> thanks,
> jdm
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Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures & Documents

[Linda McCauley]

I may be completely off base but my understanding of "documents" in
this situation is that it refers to the type of media as opposed to
the difference between a picture and a birth certificate.  If I have a
jpeg file of a birth certificate, I would still attach it as a photo
(because that is the type of media file it is).  If I have a report or
pages of a book in a pdf file or a Word doc, I would attach that as a
document.  Linda

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Bruce Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Now that V7 has added Documents to the previous Pictures, Sounds, & Videos,
> I am trying to decide what goes in Documents.
> Some decisions seem clear:
> . Photos of individuals go in Pictures
> . Family stories go in Documents
> But what about these:
> . Photo of a gravestone
> . Scan of a Birth Certificate
> . Image of a census from an on-line source
> I'm sure there are differences of opinion but would be interested in how
> others have approached this.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboard

[Linda McCauley]

I've been using the source clipboard for the last couple of hours with
no problems.  I've changed sources several times and the new one
sticks just fine.  Sorry - I don't have any idea what you might do to
solve the problem but someone much more knowledgable will probably
chime in.

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Melanie Armstrong
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone had trouble with the source clipboard? Since this last upgrade I
> can't get my source that I loaded into the clipboard to stick. A source I
> haven't been using keeps coming up and won't let me change it.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding census information for both parents and children

[Linda McCauley]

Jane,
If you are talking about Sources, see "Source Clipboard" in help for
all the details.  (It's explained much better there than I can do.)

If you are talking about Events, use the copy and paste buttons in the
event window (just below Help).  Click copy, go to the next person,
add a new event, click paste.
Linda


On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Jane Sarles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have checked both the manual and the "help" section, but do not find the
> answer to this:  If I am entering census information and it is the same
> citation for each parent and each child, is it possible to not have to
> re-type the information for each one?
>
> Jane Sarles
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Re: [LegacyUG] Event order

[Linda McCauley]

When you add a new event, it goes to the bottom of the list but you
can move it to wherever you want by using the "Set Order" arrows that
are between "Options" and "Tags" on the individual window.  I always
use this instead of the global sort because I sometimes have events
without a date and don't want them to all go to the top of the list.

On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Jane Sarles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want each person's events always to be listed in chronological order.  I
> know that I can do that by hitting "options" and choosing "sort by date",
> but can't I set the program to do it without having to change it every time.
>  Why on earth would one want the order to be in order of input?
>
> Jane Sarles



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sharing family research - sourcing

[Linda McCauley]

Tracy
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the original issue but if you are talking
about information that you already have in your file with proper
sources, why would you add someone else as a source for that same
information if all they did was copy it and hand it back to you?  I
can't see any reason to clutter up reports with sources that add no
real value in determining the validity of the data.  (Actually, even
if the person didn't copy the info directly from me, if I already had
it properly sourced, I wouldn't add them as a source just because they
found the same information that I did.)

If I get new information from a person and I want to add it to my
file, then I add them as the source for that data until I can do the
research myself.  (I never merge someone else's file into mine - but
that's a whole different debate.)

Linda


On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 5:53 AM, Tracy Skegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks guys, I've been unsure of what to use for some merging I'm
> doing.  In the past I've had people who haven't used my research, I've
> given them credit, but now some are passing the sourcing credit on to
> me.  I'll add their name/s to each piece of information they have
> given me.
>
> Cheers
> Tracy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Relationships - update

[Linda McCauley]

Elsie
When you selected "Relationship" you got the Legacy generated relationship
description instead of the Event that you created.  Go back to customize the
family view and select "Event" 1st, then select "Relationship" from your
event list.
Linda
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Elsie Saar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I see that I cannot choose any event name to appear on the family page so
> changing the event name in 6 won't help me. What can I do?
> Elsie
>
>
> Do I have to rename this event before I bring the database over to 7? I
>> have kept a version 6 database.
>> Elsie
>>
>>
>> Elsie (Scharpf) Saar
>>
>> http://community.webshots.com/user/saarlc
>>
>> Genealogy research
>> American: Parks, Avann, Bulson, Soden, Menkens
>> German: Wienecke, Storz, Scharpf, Saar, Stelzer
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting vs Not

[Linda McCauley]

Cathy,
I have been an extreme splitter of census records (one source for each
household every year) but with source writer, am slowly combining to
one source for each county & year.  One of the best features in Legacy
is the ability to name your source so you can easily find it and still
have the proper source title appear on reports.  For census sources,
my source name starts with Cen, then has the 2 digit state
abbreviation, then the county name and then year.  (I don't currently
have any census records outside the USA but would start with country
abbreviation in that case.)

Example:  Cen-KY-Rockcastle-1850
This sorts all the census sources together first by state, then by
county and finally by year so I can quickly tell if I already have a
master source entered or if I need to add one.

Linda

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Cathy Vallevieni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Again, I am just starting to use Legacy.  I've seen lots of messages over
> the weekend about splitting sources vs not splitting sources.
>
> Can someone that does split sources (ie. 1820 Census may be listed lots of
> times for each town in which you have an ancestor), please tell me how they
> title the split sources (start with city then county then state then list
> the document document or something else goes first)?
>
> Can you also tell me the key advantages of splitting (I understand it's easy
> to find all the sources for a specific town or county or state this way but
> are there others)?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Cathy Vallevieni--Orange County, CA



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Re: [LegacyUG] creating web pages

[Linda McCauley]

I tried each type of web page for a family with Census events and they
all show up just fine so it doesn't appear to be a bug.  Is it
possible that the Census Event has been set to Private (through the
master event list, not just for an individual)?


On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Syble Glasscock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes that is exactly what is happening.  I tried two different persons and
> created a Family Report, in Report Options, I choose to include Events, and
> it does the same thing, it will pick up Events such as Land Records,
> Obituary, etc, but it does not include the Event I have titled Census.
>
> Weird.yes...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Syble
>
> --- On Sun, 7/6/08, ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From: ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] creating web pages
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 8:35 PM
>
> Syble,
> If we take your RIN 14 ie. page 14.html, George Washington Clyne, are you
> saying that under "Noted events in his life were" all the census
> events are missing and just the Military and marriage are present? Please
> don't think I disbelieve you - I just find it mind blowing!
> I will run something similar in my own database to see if I can repeat. If I
> can't I will probably have to contact you off-list as we may need to swop
> attachments - this will be from a tiscali address btw.
> Ron Ferguson

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Re: [LegacyUG] Letter Source Template

[Linda McCauley]

In the letter template, select "historic" instead of "personal
correspondence".  Historic has fields for the writer, recipient and
current owner.

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Tim Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Perhaps this has been hashed out previously, so I appologize if this has
> been brought up before.
>
> I decided to try the source template for letters (personal correspondence).
> In the template you have a field for the Writer's and the Recipient's last
> and given names.  When I fill this out, the footnote automtically fills in
> "letter from writer to recipient, privately held by recipient".  Well, this
> is partially inaccurate!  The recipient of the letter in question has been
> dead for many years and it is now privately held by someone else (the
> daughter of the recipient).  I can't find a way to change this using the
> template!  And, if I try and go into the source without the template to
> correct it, and then look at the results, it still says that it is held by
> the recipient..  I have even tried to override the footnote on the Source
> Detail and it still comes out on the report with the wrong name!!??
>
> Is this a bug or am I missing something here?
>
> If this has been hashed out, please let me know and I will file it with my
> "File of Redundancy File".
>
> Confused in Voorheesville, NY,
>
> Tim Willis



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Re: [LegacyUG] Mills inconsistency

[Linda McCauley]

I believe this is another "scrolling" issue.  If you
scroll down in the 1880 & 1930 Census Source Detail,
ID of Person is there.

Linda


--- Penny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Neither the 1930 nor the 1880 templates, for
> example, allows you to input 
> the person of interest, while 1870 and others do
> allow you to input this 
> information.  (There may be others, I just
> remembered those two off the top 
> of my head.)  There are similar inconsistencies
> concerning inclusion of the 
> family number.  We wondered why this is so.
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

[Linda McCauley]

Gail,
Look to the right of the data entry fields for
Jurisdiction, Roll, Page, etc.  There should be a
scroll bar.  Click on the bottom of the scroll bar and
"Date Accessed" will appear.

(At least it does for me.)

--- Gail Nestor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> OK, now I think I see the issue here.  Either you
> are selecting a
> different master source type or somehow you are in
> possession of a
> different/better version of this same template.  My
> template (when I
> select census records as the source type, followed
> by > 1) United
> States > 2) Federal Census Records > 3) 1850
> population schedule > 4)
> online images) for the master source pops up and I
> fill it in.
> 
> Then, my Step 3: Add Source Detail screen reads:
> Jurisdiction City
> Roll
> Page
> Dwelling No.
> Family No.
> ID of Person
> Surety Level
> Recorded Date
> File ID
> 
> Am I going crazy here or am I missing something
> obvious?
> 
> 
> Gail Rich Nestor
> Smyrna, Georgia
> www.roots2buds.net




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Re: [LegacyUG] Conversion FTM to Legacy

[Linda McCauley]

I had the problem with unwanted spaces in notes when I
switched from FTM to Legacy.  The problem can be
solved in the Deluxe version by reimporting the
GEDCOM.  When you get the "GEDCOM Import" window,
click on Customize and check "Lines are broken in the
middle of words" and then finish the import.  (This
may also be possible in the standard version but I
don't know.)  I didn't have any problems with my
sources.  Maybe if you provide more detail about your
source problems someone can help.

The short answer to your V6/V7 question is that V7 is
in the process of being rolled out.
Linda

--- Chambro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> II am a long time user of FTM but I am thinking of
> converting to Legacy.  I downloaded Legacy V6
> (standard) but I notice that many of you on this
> list have version 7.  How did you get it?  I have
> not seen it for sale anywhere and according to the
> website, it is not yet available.  I also notice
> that a few of you (Alan and Ole) are also on the FTM
> list, so I assume you are using both FTM and Legacy.
>  I am curious as to why anyone would want to
> maintain two files and try to keep them updated
> especially since Legacy seems to have everything
> that FTM has and more.  
> 
> I have imported a GEDCOM from FTM ver 16 but
> unfortunately, GEDCOMs from FTM do not transfer
> properly even though I followed the Legacy
> suggestions on import (Dest: FTW, Ver 5.5, ANSEL and
> Abbreviated Tag box checked.)  4554 people and 1581
> marriages seem to have transferred properly, but
> sources are messed up and there are unwanted spaces
> in some of the notes.  Whether or not I stay with
> FTM and go to FTM2008 or switch to Legacy, it
> appears  I will have to do some file clean-up as
> sources and facts are handled differently.  Does
> anyone have any suggestions as to the best way to
> clean up my file without having to go through each
> individual?  Thanks
> Chick from Camarillo
> 
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RE: [LegacyUG] a few questions

[Linda McCauley]

I think this is probably right in regard to the # of
data files.  I tried out Roots Magic at one time and
one database is saved in many, many separate pieces
(files).  I never counted but wouldn't be surprised if
there were 35.  This would seem to be an odd thing to
compare and probably misleading as someone who didn't
understand would think RM does 35 and Legacy only 2,
RM must be better.  When in reality, this a very good
example of "more is not always better".
Linda

--- "G. C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Myrna,
> 
> Sense I have never used RM I cannot comment on it. I
> do know that the
> current Legacy does not have a charting function so
> she is correct on
> statements #1 and #2. As far as # 3 goes I am
> assuming she means that Legacy
> creates only 2 files for a database. As far as I am
> concerned having only
> one file (or 2)to worry about is a plus. The Legacy
> .fdb database file is
> really the only thing you need to transport your
> file and the other stuff is
> just fluff.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error creating CD to share

[Linda McCauley]

It's
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/PassageExpressFreeVersion.asp

Linda

--- Robert57P via Gmail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> According to the web page, the free version is a 21
> day trial.  Based upon 
> the earlier comments in this LUG, I got the
> impression that the free version 
> was non-expiring and instead just didn't have as
> many features??
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] burial addresses on web pages

[Linda McCauley]

I'm also a recent convert from FTM.  After trying
cemetery names in the burial address field and as a
separate event, I decided to just leave my cemetery
names in the burial field.  Entering the cemetery name
as an event seemed to be a duplication of info since
the date, city, county and state were entered in both
the burial field and the event.  Another reason I left
it in the burial field is because I didn't like the
way my Gedcom to HTML program treated it when it was
in either the address field or as a separate event. 
(I know Legacy will create web pages but I haven't
even started checking out that feature yet, plus I
like the program I'm using for web pages.)  

The bottom line is just because Legacy has a burial
address field doesn't mean you have to use it.  I
would recommend that before you start changing thngs,
check out how it looks in reports and web pages.  The
great thing about Legacy is there is more than one way
to do lots of things and you can use the one you like
best.  

Linda
www.lfmccauley.com


--- Michele Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Oh how I can relate!  I too came over from FTM.  I
> had to take the cemetery 
> out of the burial field.
> 
> The easiest way to do it is to do a search in the
> burial field for the 
> following words
> 
> Cemetery
> Gardens
> Memorial
> Acres
> 
> You will get 99% of them that way.
> Then just tag the records.  You can go through at
> your own pace once person 
> at a time to fix it.
> 
> I am one of the ones that prefers to put the
> cemetery as an EVENT instead of 
> the burial address For one reason is most of my
> cemeteries don't even 
> remotely have an address (out in the middle of the
> woods).  Another reason 
> is that there is a date attached to the burial and
> so it shows nicely up in 
> the chronology.  I also use the cemetery event as
> one of my 5 options to 
> display on the family view so that I can see the
> cemetery just like I could 
> in FTM.
> 
> When I add it as an event, I can also add any notes
> (unmarked grave, broken 
> marker, name on tombstone is spelled Charlie, grave
> located at R1C5F60, 
> birth date on marker 04 Sep 1802, WHATEVER)
> 
> michele
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Lisa Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:45 AM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] burial addresses on web
> pages
> 
> 
> Thank you for the reply.  Sounds like another big
> project.  I am a
> relatively new Legacy user, coming from FTM, in
> which the name of the
> cemetery transferred to the "buried in" field.  I've
> been going through my
> location list and changing the "buried in" field to
> show city, county,
> state, country, and then putting the cemetery in the
> burial address field.
> I'll be so glad when I get all this cleaned up and
> can start doing actual
> research again!  Thanks again.
> ~Lisa 
> 




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RE: [LegacyUG] Switched over from FTM to Legacy

[Linda McCauley]

Barbara,
No need to delete your scrapbook items as they will
not be included in the GEDCOM created by FTM anyway. 
You will have to manually add your scrapbook items to
your Legacy file.  

I'm also in the process of changing over from FTM (v.
16) to Legacy.  The clean-up/transition process is
taking some time (because the features in Legacy are
far more advanced than FTM) but I think it's going to
be well worth the time in the long run.
Linda


--- Barbara Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So, the photos that are now residing in the
> Scrapbook part of FTM 2005--how
> do they "come into" Legacy when I import the GEDCOM?
> I was wondering if I
> should go in and delete all the scrapbook items in
> FTM before switching?
> 




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Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location/Address Reports

[Linda McCauley]

There is a "Report Title" field under the "Options"
tab.

--- TH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Linda,
> 
> This works! I wasn't going to try it at first
> because I haven't really
> gotten into the tagging thing yet, but I did try and
> it worked. Now if
> reports like this could print a title so that I
> would know what the report
> is, such as "Individuals Buried in Asbury Cemetery"
> 
> Thad
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location/Address Reports

[Linda McCauley]

Thad, 
I may not be understanding what you want but - - -
using Cathy's method to id the people in the cemetery
you want, create a tag for that list of people.  Then
go to "Search" and search for the people with that
tag.  Then "Create List", click on "Print" and include
whatever items you want on the report.

Linda

--- TH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Leo,
> 
> Thanks for responding. Your method would be fine if
> I included cemetery
> names in the location field. But I don't. I use the
> Legacy method of
> including only city/county/state/country in the
> location field so your
> method wouldn't have any cemeteries in the list of
> locations. Cathy's method
> works best, if only it could be made to inclue
> birth-death dates and city
> and state ;-)
> 



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Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location and MARRIAGE/Address Reports

[Linda McCauley]

--- TH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> As the information for births, marriages, deaths,
> and burials is of primary
> concern to most of us, it's too bad that Legacy
> doesn't seem to highlight
> how to generate detailed reports concerning these
> events. At the risk of
> starting a dialogue on what's wrong with Family Tree
> Maker, I'll just
> mention that it does allow the creation of such
> reports (as well as others)
> that Legacy doesn't...or, if they do, I can't find
> that feature in the
> instructions or the help guides.

As a recent escapee from FTM, I thought the same thing
about custom reports - at first.  Then from reading
the archives of this list, I found out that by using
the "Search" feature or by clicking on "Name List" and
"Print" (and sometimes using tagging to narrow down
the list) pretty much any kind of custom report I can
think of can be created.  The report format allows for
multiple rows for an individual making the report much
more readable than FTM custom reports (which put every
item on one line, sometimes making a report so wide it
is useless in printed form because info for one person
is scattered across multiple pages).  So, it seems to
me that Legacy's custom reporting is actually far
superior to FTM.  

The only reports that I used regularly in FTM that I
haven't found a way to produce in Legacy (so far) are
"undocumented events" (items with no source attached)
and Bibliography (which may be coming in 7.0).

Linda 



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Re: [LegacyUG] An argument for splitting? (knowing I may get "lumps" for this)

[Linda McCauley]

--- Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> How do you use "Show List" when you're a splitter?
> 
> Cathy

Cathy,
I'm really, really new to Legacy (like 3 weeks) so I
haven't begun to uncover all the uses for many
functions - that's one reason I started reading this
list and it's archives (and I must say it's been very
helpful).  So, I don't really understand your
question.  I have been using FTM for years and it
seems that "Show List" is similar to the "Source
Usage" field in FTM which I used to determine what
particular items/events were tied to a specific Master
Source.  Is there some other use that won't work for
splitters?
Linda




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Re: [LegacyUG] An argument for splitting? (knowing I may get "lumps" for this)

[Linda McCauley]

Hi Cathy,
I am new to Legacy but not to genealogy.  I guess I
should first admit that I am a splitter - although I
didn't realize that until I started reading this list.
 

I don't understand your arguement that splitting is
ignoring "the structure of having Master Sources and
Source Details".  Since the Master Source has a space
for entering "Text of Source", I don't see how lumpers
would ever use that space (which is a part of the
Legacy source structure).

For example:  I document an individual census record
as follows:  Master Source "Census - Hankins, Thomas
L. - 1900".  Under "Text of Source", I enter the
county, state, district, names of household members,
relationship, age, etc. from that census record
because to me that is the "text of the source".  If I
don't have a complete birth date for Thomas, I would
use the mm/ listed in that census record and
attach this master source as documentation.  In the
Source Detail under "Detail Text", I would enter
"Thomas listed as born 6/1858".  By entering sources
like this, a footnote/endnote for Thomas' birth date
would show the source as the specific census record
and the detail would explain how that source
specifically documents his birth date.

>From what I'm reading, neither side of this issue is
likely to see the logic of the other but it seems to
me that Legacy's design for sourcing actually supports
either approach making neither right or wrong, simply
different.  That kind of flexibility is one of the
things I really like about Legacy.

Linda   


--- Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Pat,
> 
> Basically it sounds as if you are only using the 
> Source Details sections of a source just for 
> comments rather than for the true Source Detail.
> 
> Taking your example:
> I'd make The Snider Family GenForum a Master 
> Source and put the details of a particular posting
> in the Source Detail.
> 
> or, to use a more common example as I'm not familiar
> with GenForums.
> 
> A Census is a Master Source. (whether you make 
> the Master Source the census for a particular 
> country (English Census) or for a particular 
> country for a particular year (1841 Census) or 
> for a state (1860 Census for Michigan) or county 
> - depending on how much of a splitter you are).
> Regardless of how you've lumped or split, I think 
> a particular census household, belongs in the 
> source detail. I put the reference in the Source 
> Detail and a transcription of the household in the
> Source Detail text.
> 
> To put the actual household in the Master Source 
> is to completely ignore the structure of having 
> Master Sources and Source Details. It can be done 
> and it may suit you better but you need to be 
> aware that you aren't using Legacy sourcing as
> designed.
> 
> Adding to the confusion, Legacy isn't consistent 
> on its use of terminology for the Source Details. 
> Sometimes it uses Citation or Citation Details 
> for the Source Details and sometimes Citation 
> refers to one whole use of a Source - Master source
> plus the details.
> 
> Cathy
>




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