Re: [LegacyUG] One-line report

2010-05-04 Thread Evert van Dijken
It is possible to tag the Relationships line in the Relationship Calculator.
Export these tagged individuals to a new legacy file (select the
option Export all options with a tag of i.e. 4 and select the
sub-options you want).
In the new family file make an ancestor report.
Evert

2010/5/3 Cathy-0 chorn0...@optimum.net:
 It is called a Lineage Report.  However, the Lineage Report  that Legacy
 will compile for you does not let you chose which of the various lines you
 wish to see.  It will only take your paternal line.

 see:  Reports -- Reports menu (charts) --  Lineage

 - Original Message -
 From: Jane Sarles sarlesinsi...@gmail.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 11:47 AM
 Subject: [LegacyUG] One-line report


I wish to construct a report that gives my son and his ancestry back
 to only one person.  Just the direct line from him to an ancestor who
 was in Jamestown in 1620. I would like it to list each generation's
 children and events.  I am not sure what it is called, nor can I find
 a report that seems to accomplish it.  Can someone give me a clue?

 Jane S.



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Re: [LegacyUG] One-line report

2010-05-04 Thread Evert van Dijken
sorry the Export option is: Export all records with an individual tag of ...
Evert

2010/5/4 Evert van Dijken evandij...@gmail.com:
 It is possible to tag the Relationships line in the Relationship Calculator.
 Export these tagged individuals to a new legacy file (select the
 option Export all options with a tag of i.e. 4 and select the
 sub-options you want).
 In the new family file make an ancestor report.
 Evert

 2010/5/3 Cathy-0 chorn0...@optimum.net:
 It is called a Lineage Report.  However, the Lineage Report  that Legacy
 will compile for you does not let you chose which of the various lines you
 wish to see.  It will only take your paternal line.

 see:  Reports -- Reports menu (charts) --  Lineage

 - Original Message -
 From: Jane Sarles sarlesinsi...@gmail.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 11:47 AM
 Subject: [LegacyUG] One-line report


I wish to construct a report that gives my son and his ancestry back
 to only one person.  Just the direct line from him to an ancestor who
 was in Jamestown in 1620. I would like it to list each generation's
 children and events.  I am not sure what it is called, nor can I find
 a report that seems to accomplish it.  Can someone give me a clue?

 Jane S.



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Re: [LegacyUG] RE: Possible Problem

2010-05-04 Thread Ron Ferguson
Tony,

In your step 5, I get a question mark, on clicking it asks basically whether
I want the machine to search for the image or whether I want to do it
myself.

If I let the PC do it, then it will offer me the first file with that name
that it comes across, no matter which directory it is in. This is a standard
Windows Explorer search, which I expect is the Windows function that Legacy
is actually using.

Ron Ferguson

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Tony Rolfe wrote:
 Sorry not to be replying to the thread, but I haven't been receiving
 any LUG messages to reply to.

 Firstly, Ron said

 I'm sorry, but in this case Legacy are correct. This is basic
 computing, if you have files with the same file name in various
 directories just how do you expect a machine to tell which is the
 correct one - it cannot see a picture. You can't blame the operating
 system either because it also is blind.

 Actually, I don't expect the machine to know which of two identically
 named files I want.  That is why I expect the program to ask me if it
 has found the right one, not make basic assumptions which it cannot
 verify.  That is basic programming.   If you don't know, don't assume,
 ask the user.  All the code is there.  They already ask when you let
 Legacy do the search, why not ask when it does it on its own?

 In a second post, Ron asked

 I would be interested to know how you set it to auto-search for
 missing files - even if it to me seems to be a bad idea anyhow!

 I don't know of such a setting either.  It just happens.  I'm glad you
 agree that it is a bad idea.  Here's how to test it.
 1.  Create two folders A and B and put a different jpg file in each.
 Rename one so it has the same name as the other. Make sure you know
 wich file is in which directory.

 2.  Open Legacy, attach one file to the source detail for one user and
 then attach the other to another user.

 3. Check that the correct file is attached to each user.

 4.  Shut down Legacy and rename one of the directories (or even
 delete it).

 5.  Restart Legacy and edit the source detail for the the user with
 the missing picture.  The detail image will either be blank or may
 possibly show an image.

 6.  Now click the image and you will find the wrong image.  Check that
 both users now have the same image.

 QED.

 Jenny then said

 Personally, I don't know how people could cope with having several
 different files with the same name, anyway.  When I look at a
 filename I want to know immediately if this jpg is Joe Bloggs's Birth
 Certificate, Marriage Certificate, Death Certificate or Wedding
 photo. The fact that they are folders named Birth Certificates,
 Marriage Certificates etc is just doubly helpful.

 Here's my basic situation.  I find no difficulty in keeping track of
 multiple files with the same name.  In fact, I find it easier than
 having to maintain unique names for all files, something that no
 operating system or program I have ever met has required.  If this
 scheme is fundamentally flawed, please explain to me why it is wrong.

 I have been following the basic Legacy suggestion to file paper under
 MRIN sequence and move children's paper to their own MRIN when they
 marry.  Applying that logic to computer files, I have a few hundred
 folders of the form D:\Genealogy\Data\MRIN hisname and hername.
 Within each folder I have the images applicable to that marriage,
 along with
 text files containing research notes, etc.

 I am planning to give a copy of my data to family when I get to the UK
 later in the year, so I have named each file with a nice and easy to
 recognise name.  E.g.  Rather than ESSRG12_1365_1367-0170.jpg which
 would mean nothing to them, I have called it 1891 Census image.jpg
 Actually, I can never remember the RG numbers, so it is much easier
 for
 me too.  If I have a file called Birth Certificate - Fred.jpg  in a
 folder called M198 George Rolfe and Mary Jones, it is pretty easy to
 work out that it is for that Fred Rolfe who was the son of George and
 Mary.

 All I need for this to be perfect is for Legacy to ask whether the
 1891 Census Image.jpg it found is the one I want, or would I like
 to go find it myself.  Oh, yes, the ability to rename a file inside
 Legacy and have all occurrences renamed would be good.  But that's
 another story and one which, I am assured, is under investigation.

 PS  If anyone knows why I'm not getting LUG messages...

 Thanks  Tony





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Re: [LegacyUG] RE: Possible Problem

2010-05-04 Thread Jenny M Benson
Tony Rolfe wrote
Oh, yes, the ability to rename a file inside Legacy and have all
occurrences renamed would be good.  But that's another story and one
which, I am assured, is under investigation.

You can already do that.  ToolsPicture Centre.

My only beef with the procedure is that one cannot copy and paste the
existing filename prior to modifying it, but must type in all of the new
filename.  Very often I am making minor modifications to a filename (to
keep naming patterns consistent) and I've found the easiest and quickest
way to do this is to have an Explorer window open showing the same
Directory and copying the filename there, then switching to the Legacy
window and pasting the filename, then modifying it.


With regard to having files of the same name, if that system works for
you then that's fine.  (However, you are saying that it is causing
problems with Legacy!)  Personally, I find it much preferable to have a
file named BC - Bloggs, Joe 123 in a folder named Birth Certificates
and a file named MC - Bloggs, Joe 123 in a folder named Marriage
Certificates than to have 2 (or more) files named Bloggs, Joe 123.
(123 us the RIN, btw.)
--
Jenny M Benson



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[LegacyUG] error message

2010-05-04 Thread Barbara
Hello fellow Legacy users, I need your help.

I attempted to install the new update to my Deluxe 7.4 program and I get a 
message Run time error '380': Invalid Property Value.  Plus, my Legacy 
Program does not open.

I would appreciate any help you may offer.

Thanks  Barb


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Re: [LegacyUG] error message

2010-05-04 Thread Evert van Dijken
See: http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/helpError380.asp. Something went
wrong during the update, update again and it should be ok (I hope ;-).
Evert van Dijken

2010/5/4 Barbara bschwart...@twcny.rr.com:
 Hello fellow Legacy users, I need your help.

 I attempted to install the new update to my Deluxe 7.4 program and I get a
 message Run time error '380': Invalid Property Value.  Plus, my Legacy
 Program does not open.

 I would appreciate any help you may offer.

 Thanks  Barb

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Re: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations

2010-05-04 Thread Ruth Nerud
Maybe I am just old fashioned; but - why didn't you sign your name at the end 
of your e-mail. That's a common courtesy everyone should follow.

Ruth Nerud
  - Original Message -
  From: _
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 5:46 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations


Maybe I am just old fashioned; but why can't someone just ask a simple 
question and get a simple answer without being chided for not perusing over an 
innumerable amount of archived messages that will not guarantee that he will 
find an answer?  He already consulted the manual before posting a question and 
found that it contained erroneous information. How can anyone be sure that the 
information in archived messages is up to date?  I have a job that involves 
training students and also entry level employees to my profession. If you want 
to put yourself in the position of helping people learn something, then be 
prepared to be asked the same questions by various people who have less 
experience then you and who just want to learn. This is a support forum!  Next 
time someone gets lost while driving, and needs to stop somewhere and ask 
directions, try lurking for awhile to get the feel of it.


--- On Sun, 5/2/10, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:


  From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 3:57 PM


  RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote
  This has been out there since before/when 7.0 came out, but as 
newbies
  come in, they don't (needn't) search the Archives to find old 
unsolved
  problems, so this surfaces again every few months.

  I suppose I'm old-fashioned, but I remember a time when it was
  considered common politeness both to read the archives of a group and
  lurk for a while to get the feel of it.
  --
  Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations

2010-05-04 Thread Gene Young
On 5/4/2010 6:46 AM, _ wrote:
 Maybe I am just old fashioned; but why can't someone just ask a simple 
 question and get a simple answer without being chided for not perusing over 
 an innumerable amount of archived messages that will not guarantee that he 
 will find an answer?  He already consulted the manual before posting a 
 question and found that it contained erroneous information. How can anyone be 
 sure that the information in archived messages is up to date?  I have a job 
 that involves training students and also entry level employees to my 
 profession. If you want to put yourself in the position of helping people 
 learn something, then be prepared to be asked the same questions by various 
 people who have less experience then you and who just want to learn. This is 
 a support forum!  Next time someone gets lost while driving, and needs to 
 stop somewhere and ask directions, try lurking for awhile to get the feel of 
 it.
#1 - you posted in HTML, a violation of the list guidelines.
#2 - You didn't sign your post, contrary to proper nettiquette.
#3 - Every list I have ever subscribed to stated that the FIRST thin to
do is check the archives as most questions are already answered and is
faster than waiting for someone else to reply.
#4 - Nobody was chiding anyone, merely pointing out correct procedure
for future reference.
#5 - PLONK
--

Gene Young
Researching Young, Harer, Cox  Sallada
With Legacy Family Tree



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Re: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations

2010-05-04 Thread Ron Bernier
Not only did the indiviual not sign the email, but he/she also lacked the 
common courtesy to identify himself/herself as the sender of the email. Notice 
that the From merely had _. Obviously an individual with nil credibility.
Ron Bernier
Sent from my Verizon BlackBerry


From: Ruth Nerud
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tue May 04 07:28:05 2010
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations

Maybe I am just old fashioned; but - why didn't you sign your name at the end 
of your e-mail. That's a common courtesy everyone should follow.

Ruth Nerud
- Original Message -
From: _mailto:wba...@yahoo.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations

Maybe I am just old fashioned; but why can't someone just ask a simple question 
and get a simple answer without being chided for not perusing over an 
innumerable amount of archived messages that will not guarantee that he will 
find an answer?  He already consulted the manual before posting a question and 
found that it contained erroneous information. How can anyone be sure that the 
information in archived messages is up to date?  I have a job that involves 
training students and also entry level employees to my profession. If you want 
to put yourself in the position of helping people learn something, then be 
prepared to be asked the same questions by various people who have less 
experience then you and who just want to learn. This is a support forum!  Next 
time someone gets lost while driving, and needs to stop somewhere and ask 
directions, try lurking for awhile to get the feel of it.


--- On Sun, 5/2/10, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:

From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 3:57 PM

RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote
This has been out there since before/when 7.0 came out, but as newbies
come in, they don't (needn't) search the Archives to find old unsolved
problems, so this surfaces again every few months.

I suppose I'm old-fashioned, but I remember a time when it was
considered common politeness both to read the archives of a group and
lurk for a while to get the feel of it.
--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations

2010-05-04 Thread Ruth Nerud
Yes but maybe s/he forgot one can find her/his identity anyway - From: _ 
wba...@yahoo.com You can run but you can't hide!

Ruth Nerud
baber...@att.net
  - Original Message -
  From: Ron Bernier
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 6:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations


  Not only did the indiviual not sign the email, but he/she also lacked the 
common courtesy to identify himself/herself as the sender of the email. Notice 
that the From merely had _. Obviously an individual with nil credibility.
  Ron Bernier
  Sent from my Verizon BlackBerry



--
  From: Ruth Nerud
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Tue May 04 07:28:05 2010
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations


  Maybe I am just old fashioned; but - why didn't you sign your name at the end 
of your e-mail. That's a common courtesy everyone should follow.

  Ruth Nerud
- Original Message -
From: _
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations


  Maybe I am just old fashioned; but why can't someone just ask a 
simple question and get a simple answer without being chided for not perusing 
over an innumerable amount of archived messages that will not guarantee that he 
will find an answer?  He already consulted the manual before posting a question 
and found that it contained erroneous information. How can anyone be sure that 
the information in archived messages is up to date?  I have a job that involves 
training students and also entry level employees to my profession. If you want 
to put yourself in the position of helping people learn something, then be 
prepared to be asked the same questions by various people who have less 
experience then you and who just want to learn. This is a support forum!  Next 
time someone gets lost while driving, and needs to stop somewhere and ask 
directions, try lurking for awhile to get the feel of it.


  --- On Sun, 5/2/10, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:


From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 3:57 PM


RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote
This has been out there since before/when 7.0 came out, but as 
newbies
come in, they don't (needn't) search the Archives to find old 
unsolved
problems, so this surfaces again every few months.

I suppose I'm old-fashioned, but I remember a time when it was
considered common politeness both to read the archives of a group 
and
lurk for a while to get the feel of it.
--
Jenny M Benson



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RE: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations

2010-05-04 Thread Rita Lynn McKale
Charles,
I was just drafting a similar response.  However, you have expressed my 
thoughts perhaps better than I could.  Thank you.
Rita in South Carolina

-Original Message-
From: Charles Apple [mailto:apple1...@embarqmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:51 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations

Come on people lighten up. Although, I agree with many of your comments, as a 
former teacher I can certainly empathize with the writer. The only dumb 
question is the one that “someone does not ask.” Occasionally, us new comers to 
Legacy appreciate the expert guidance and opinions of those that are more 
experienced than ourselves. You actually do yourselves, and Legacy, a 
disservice when we encounter your wrath.

In our haste and frustration sometimes we overlook the archives and correct 
netiquette in favor of going to those that are far more experienced than 
ourselves for a resolution to our problem, oversight, etc.

Excuse us for being newbie’s. Just remember that you were a newbie also at some 
point in time. All we are asking is a little guidance. If that offends anyone, 
so be it!!!

As for nitpicking his or her failure to give their name or return email 
address, I don't know their reasoning and to say otherwise would be sheer 
speculation. However, I do take responsibility for what I say, and I am not 
ashamed to admit that I said it. So if someone wants to nitpick my name and 
email address they are both listed below, so go ahead and take your best shot!!!

Charles E. Apple
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Re: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations

2010-05-04 Thread GMAIL HERSH
I have been away from the Legacy UG for a bit and came back to check out a
few things with the new version.  The attitude here hasn't changed in the
years I've been away.  I see some of the same names and new ones.  Sometimes
helpful, sometimes apparently trolling for some poor soul upon which to take
out your misplaced anger.

Note to grouchy, self righteous people...this isn't your job, no one is
forcing you to answer questions...if you don't have anything helpful or nice
to say, then don't say it.  You take up a lot of room doing the same
grouching over and over which is much more irritating and time consuming
to read through than the original question.  You should all be experts now
anyway, so why are you here?  To police the site?  What is wrong in your own
life that requires you to disrespect and demean people who aren't
necessarily talking to you anyway?  Be of help or be silent.

I have wanted to say this for months.  I have said nothing about anything
and felt too intimidated to even ask a question.  This is my one shot and I
apologize to all who had to read this message.  I will say no more.

Jennifer Hershberger




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Re: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations

2010-05-04 Thread Mike Fry
On 2010/05/04 16:18, GMAIL HERSH wrote:

 Note to grouchy, self righteous people...this isn't your job, no one is
 forcing you to answer questions...if you don't have anything helpful or nice
 to say, then don't say it.  You take up a lot of room doing the same
 grouching over and over which is much more irritating and time consuming
 to read through than the original question.  You should all be experts now
 anyway, so why are you here?  To police the site?  What is wrong in your own
 life that requires you to disrespect and demean people who aren't
 necessarily talking to you anyway?  Be of help or be silent.

Just remember. The LUG is representative of the real world. Not everyone
in the real world is helpful and always has 'nice' (detestable word that
one) things to say. People will always be people. Accept that fact and
move on.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations

2010-05-04 Thread Ron Ferguson

Rita  Charles et al,

Rest assured that those of us who do try to answer problems raised do
remember the time we were newbies, even if it was many years ago. Then, it
was customary to learn about how mailing lists and forums etc. worked, and
as Jenny said, lurk for a while - and after having looked carefully at the
posts *and read the instructions given at the end of every email on the
list* only then consider firing off a post.

Even basic books on the internet use give the above advice. The Internet
for Dummies has some 11 references to netiquette, as far as I know the book
is still not out of print. Please give some consideration to those who give
up their often very busy lives to try and help newbies and others with
problems, by passing on their experiences, and understand their frustration
when the same question is asked within a 24hr period, by different people.
Understand that responders are human and will get annoyed when they see the
same question on a multitude of lists (not so common on LUG, I admit), the
answer will be the same on them all!

Understand also their feelings when somebody has not read the rules for the
lists and posts in HTML, understand also that their are a number of us who
have our email client set not to read HTML, or simply choose to ignore post
using it. If someone won't read the rules, or chooses to ignore them, please
tell me why they should receive the same consideration of those who do.
Understand that their feelings when someone uses the list because they are
too idle to read the Help Files - we have no problem with helping someone
who gets stuck using them!

If someone can't apply common courtesy, by at least reading and abiding by
the rules of the list, to those trying to help, please tell me why the
helpers should be expected to bend over backwards to deal with their
problem. I could go on and on about those who think rules are only for the
others, but I will excercise some restraint, and leave it at that.

Ron Ferguson
_

*New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth
http://www.fergys.co.uk
Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
And the Fergusons of N.W. England



Rita Lynn McKale wrote:
 Charles,
 I was just drafting a similar response.  However, you have expressed
 my thoughts perhaps better than I could.  Thank you.
 Rita in South Carolina

 -Original Message-
 From: Charles Apple [mailto:apple1...@embarqmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:51 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations

 Come on people lighten up. Although, I agree with many of your
 comments, as a former teacher I can certainly empathize with the
 writer. The only dumb question is the one that “someone does not
 ask.” Occasionally, us new comers to Legacy appreciate the expert
 guidance and opinions of those that are more experienced than
 ourselves. You actually do yourselves, and Legacy, a disservice when
 we encounter your wrath.

 In our haste and frustration sometimes we overlook the archives and
 correct netiquette in favor of going to those that are far more
 experienced than ourselves for a resolution to our problem,
 oversight, etc.

 Excuse us for being newbie’s. Just remember that you were a newbie
 also at some point in time. All we are asking is a little guidance.
 If that offends anyone, so be it!!!

 As for nitpicking his or her failure to give their name or return
 email address, I don't know their reasoning and to say otherwise
 would be sheer speculation. However, I do take responsibility for
 what I say, and I am not ashamed to admit that I said it. So if
 someone wants to nitpick my name and email address they are both
 listed below, so go ahead and take your best shot!!!

 Charles E. Apple
 apple1...@embarqmail.com





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Re: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations

2010-05-04 Thread Lionel Carter
Gene Young wrote:
 #2 - You didn't sign your post, contrary to proper nettiquette.


Is it in the guidelines you must have a name?
I can only find
LUG Rules of Etiquette.
1. Please keep the tone of messages friendly and helpful. Practice
tolerance, avoid sarcasm and remember that we were all beginners at one
time.

What's wrong with '-' , the email address was there.
I don't recall 'mbstx' being hauled over the coals for not having a
recognised given name?
.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations

2010-05-04 Thread Charles Apple
Ron  Mike et al,

The internet is a worldwide network of people sharing ideas and thoughts. As 
such, people of all countries, cultures, and ethnicities will be encountered. 
The perceptions of all those people are shaped by the variety of countries, 
cultures, ethnicities, and experiences they have encountered during their 
lives, which we can all learn from.

In such an environment, the greatest Common Courtesy is that of tolerance 
toward one another with respect to each individual. Unkind remarks, only tend 
to exacerbate the uglier side of humanity, which we should all try and suppress 
whenever it raises its head.

You or no one else can justify a negligent and arrogant attitude, so it only 
serves to belittle you to even try. If you get frustrated because a question 
has been asked that has previously been answered, then quite simply don't reply.

It would appear that some of you want to label the LUG as the Legacy User 
Group for Experts Only. I also will exercise some restraint and end with the 
following quote which you might consider pondering. Blessed is the man [or 
woman] who, having nothing to say, abstains from giving us wordy evidence of 
the fact, George Eliot, Impressions of Theophrastus Such, (first published 
in 1879), chapter 4, page 51.

Thank you Rita for your kind remarks.

Charles E. Apple


-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 10:36 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations


Rita  Charles et al,

Rest assured that those of us who do try to answer problems raised do
remember the time we were newbies, even if it was many years ago. Then, it
was customary to learn about how mailing lists and forums etc. worked, and
as Jenny said, lurk for a while - and after having looked carefully at the
posts *and read the instructions given at the end of every email on the
list* only then consider firing off a post.

Even basic books on the internet use give the above advice. The Internet
for Dummies has some 11 references to netiquette, as far as I know the book
is still not out of print. Please give some consideration to those who give
up their often very busy lives to try and help newbies and others with
problems, by passing on their experiences, and understand their frustration
when the same question is asked within a 24hr period, by different people.
Understand that responders are human and will get annoyed when they see the
same question on a multitude of lists (not so common on LUG, I admit), the
answer will be the same on them all!

Understand also their feelings when somebody has not read the rules for the
lists and posts in HTML, understand also that their are a number of us who
have our email client set not to read HTML, or simply choose to ignore post
using it. If someone won't read the rules, or chooses to ignore them, please
tell me why they should receive the same consideration of those who do.
Understand that their feelings when someone uses the list because they are
too idle to read the Help Files - we have no problem with helping someone
who gets stuck using them!

If someone can't apply common courtesy, by at least reading and abiding by
the rules of the list, to those trying to help, please tell me why the
helpers should be expected to bend over backwards to deal with their
problem. I could go on and on about those who think rules are only for the
others, but I will excercise some restraint, and leave it at that.

Ron Ferguson
_

*New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth
http://www.fergys.co.uk
Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
And the Fergusons of N.W. England



Rita Lynn McKale wrote:
 Charles,
 I was just drafting a similar response.  However, you have expressed
 my thoughts perhaps better than I could.  Thank you.
 Rita in South Carolina

 -Original Message-
 From: Charles Apple [mailto:apple1...@embarqmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:51 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations

 Come on people lighten up. Although, I agree with many of your
 comments, as a former teacher I can certainly empathize with the
 writer. The only dumb question is the one that “someone does not
 ask.” Occasionally, us new comers to Legacy appreciate the expert
 guidance and opinions of those that are more experienced than
 ourselves. You actually do yourselves, and Legacy, a disservice when
 we encounter your wrath.

 In our haste and frustration sometimes we overlook the archives and
 correct netiquette in favor of going to those that are far more
 experienced than ourselves for a resolution to our problem,
 oversight, etc.

 Excuse us for being newbie’s. Just remember that you were a newbie
 also at some point in time. All we are asking is a little guidance.
 If that offends 

[LegacyUG] Double/Duplicate Relationships showing?

2010-05-04 Thread Cathy-0
Dear Fellow Legacy Users:

I  use the Set Relationships under the Tools menu in my database.  However, I 
have recently noticed that my grandparents' siblings all show a plus sign next 
to the relationship, such as  Granduncle +

When I right-clicked on it to view additional relationships two entries show 
up listing the exact same names and same ID numbers with the exact same 
relationships.  I've run the Check/Repair feature but to no avail.  This 
duplication of relationships problem still exists.

Why does it show an additional relationship when there isn't one?  Have I been 
doing something to make that occur? If so, what? Or is it a bug?  Does anyone 
else have this issue?

I have also gone back further in the family tree and find it occurring for each 
subsequent generation's siblings.

I would appreciate any suggestions to help correct this minor issue.

With thanks,

Cathy-0



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[LegacyUG] Hijacking threads

2010-05-04 Thread CE Wood
Just how do the recent posts to this thread pertain to the subject?  The 
practice deters people from searching the archives before posting here.

Unfortunately, this is not an unusual occurrence on this and many other lists.


CE

-Original Message-
From: Charles Apple [mailto:apple1...@embarqmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:00 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations

Ron  Mike et al,

The internet is a worldwide network of people sharing ideas and thoughts. As 
such, people of all countries, cultures, and ethnicities will be encountered. 
The perceptions of all those people are shaped by the variety of countries, 
cultures, ethnicities, and experiences they have encountered during their 
lives, which we can all learn from.

In such an environment, the greatest Common Courtesy is that of tolerance 
toward one another with respect to each individual. Unkind remarks, only tend 
to exacerbate the uglier side of humanity, which we should all try and suppress 
whenever it raises its head.

You or no one else can justify a negligent and arrogant attitude, so it only 
serves to belittle you to even try. If you get frustrated because a question 
has been asked that has previously been answered, then quite simply don't reply.

It would appear that some of you want to label the LUG as the Legacy User 
Group for Experts Only. I also will exercise some restraint and end with the 
following quote which you might consider pondering. Blessed is the man [or 
woman] who, having nothing to say, abstains from giving us wordy evidence of 
the fact, George Eliot, Impressions of Theophrastus Such, (first published 
in 1879), chapter 4, page 51.

Thank you Rita for your kind remarks.

Charles E. Apple




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Re: [LegacyUG] One-line report

2010-05-04 Thread Connie Sheets
It isn't necessary to use the Relationship Calculator.

All Jane needs to do is highlight the 1620 ancestor, then tag all his/her 
descendants. (We'll call it Tag 1).

Export those with Tag 1 into a new file.

Create an Ancestor Book report, with Events, for her son.

Problem solved.

My apologies for offering more complex solutions earlier.  Although they would 
also work, I hadn't thought out the problem completely to find the easiest 
solution.

Evert van Dijken evandij...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is possible to tag the
 Relationships line in the Relationship Calculator.
 Export these tagged individuals to a new legacy file
 (select the
 option Export all options with a tag of i.e. 4 and select
 the
 sub-options you want).
 In the new family file make an ancestor report.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations

2010-05-04 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
I am sorry. I was actually trying to hint to Geoff and crew, to change (at 
least) the help screens to state the facts about the status of the 'conversion' 
tool.  Obviously the copy of book can't be fixed, but a quick message would be 
useful in all downloads, until it is resolved. It may not be found by everyone, 
but it would help.
My suggestion is, that when adding a new source while choosing BASIC, a drop 
down comes in and states that  'at this time conversion to the other style is 
not available, choose accordingly' (choosing Source Writer doesn't need the 
message). In addition, the help file in the downloaded program and updates need 
to explain both my  'note' , and that the tool 'repair' is impending. No date 
required. It should be done immediately, the actual conversion fix can come 
when accomplished, but it is approaching a year since this occured. And 
especially, as some have hinted, it has been put on the back burner.
Sorry again.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Tue, 5/4/10, _ wba...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: _ wba...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 3:46 AM






Maybe I am just old fashioned; but why can't someone just ask a simple question 
and get a simple answer without being chided for not perusing over an 
innumerable amount of archived messages that will not guarantee that he will 
find an answer?  He already consulted the manual before posting a question and 
found that it contained erroneous information. How can anyone be sure that the 
information in archived messages is up to date?  I have a job that involves 
training students and also entry level employees to my profession. If you want 
to put yourself in the position of helping people learn something, then be 
prepared to be asked the same questions by various people who have less 
experience then you and who just want to learn. This is a support forum!  Next 
time someone gets lost while driving, and needs to stop somewhere and ask 
directions, try lurking for awhile to get the feel of it.


--- On Sun, 5/2/10, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:


From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Converting Source Citations
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 3:57 PM


RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote
This has been out there since before/when 7.0 came out, but as newbies
come in, they don't (needn't) search the Archives to find old unsolved
problems, so this surfaces again every few months.

I suppose I'm old-fashioned, but I remember a time when it was
considered common politeness both to read the archives of a group and
lurk for a while to get the feel of it.
--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Double/Duplicate Relationships showing?

2010-05-04 Thread Evert van Dijken
This was reported on the Legacy Beta Test list 9 days ago.
I've sent a reminder to the test list.
Evert

2010/5/4 Cathy-0 chorn0...@optimum.net:
 Dear Fellow Legacy Users:

 I  use the Set Relationships under the Tools menu in my database.
 However, I have recently noticed that my grandparents' siblings all show a
 plus sign next to the relationship, such as  Granduncle +

 When I right-clicked on it to view additional relationships two entries
 show up listing the exact same names and same ID numbers with the exact same
 relationships.  I've run the Check/Repair feature but to no avail.  This
 duplication of relationships problem still exists.

 Why does it show an additional relationship when there isn't one?  Have I
 been doing something to make that occur? If so, what? Or is it a bug?  Does
 anyone else have this issue?

 I have also gone back further in the family tree and find it occurring for
 each subsequent generation's siblings.

 I would appreciate any suggestions to help correct this minor issue.

 With thanks,

 Cathy-0


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Re: [LegacyUG] One-line report

2010-05-04 Thread Evert van Dijken
Yes, Advanced tagging and exporting is another way to get the report.
Evert

2010/5/4 Connie Sheets clshee...@yahoo.com:
 It isn't necessary to use the Relationship Calculator.

 All Jane needs to do is highlight the 1620 ancestor, then tag all his/her 
 descendants. (We'll call it Tag 1).

 Export those with Tag 1 into a new file.

 Create an Ancestor Book report, with Events, for her son.

 Problem solved.

 My apologies for offering more complex solutions earlier.  Although they 
 would also work, I hadn't thought out the problem completely to find the 
 easiest solution.

 Evert van Dijken evandij...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is possible to tag the
 Relationships line in the Relationship Calculator.
 Export these tagged individuals to a new legacy file
 (select the
 option Export all options with a tag of i.e. 4 and select
 the
 sub-options you want).
 In the new family file make an ancestor report.
 Evert








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Re: [LegacyUG] Double/Duplicate Relationships showing?

2010-05-04 Thread Jenny M Benson
Cathy-0 wrote
I  use the Set Relationships under the Tools menu in my database. 
However, I have recently noticed that my grandparents' siblings all
show a plus sign next to the relationship, such as  Granduncle +
 
When I right-clicked on it to view additional relationships two
entries show up listing the exact same names and same ID numbers with
the exact same relationships.  I've run the Check/Repair feature but to
no avail.  This duplication of relationships problem still exists.
 
Why does it show an additional relationship when there isn't one?  Have
I been doing something to make that occur? If so, what? Or is it a
bug?  Does anyone else have this issue?

I am seeing this also.  Is it because the person is related to you
through both their parents?

For example, Edwin Paul is showing as my 2nd Great Granduncle+. When I
look at the Relationship Calculator Screen I see 2nd Great Granduncle
twice on the right and Thomas Paul and Martha Wade twice on the left.  I
am presuming this is because Edwin is my 2nd Great Granduncle by virtue
of being Thomas Paul's son and my 2nd Great Granduncle by virtue of
being Martha Wade's son.

This sounds like needless repetition, but is probably necessary to cater
for the more complex relationships which arise when relations marry each
other or there are step-relationships.
--
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RE: [LegacyUG] Family Search Integration

2010-05-04 Thread Kirsten Bowman
Bruce:

Do you recall anything from the presentation about including sources with the 
information that individuals upload from Legacy, or if there are sources with 
the information already at newFamilySearch?

I was under the impression that one goal of newFamilySearch was to clean 
up/consolidate information in various LDS databases but can't see how things 
would improve unless sources are provided and/or required.  Was there any 
discussion about that?

Kirsten


-Original Message-
From: Bruce Jones [mailto:juicebo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:02 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Search Integration


Heather,
I attended the presentation by Luc (Legacy developer of the interface)
at the BYU Computerized Family History and Genealogy Conference last
week.  He obviously was using a beta version to demonstrate.  As I
recall, when the two individuals information was shown (Legacy on the
left and NewFamilySearch on the right), you selected a box by every
piece of information that you wanted to send to the other person.  So,
if you had a burial date  place that was not on NewFamilySearch, you
clicked the box for JUST that piece of information and told it to
upload it.  Conversely, if NewFamilySearch had a date you did not
have, and you wanted to add it to your Legacy file, you clicked the
box for JUST that piece of information and told Legacy to download it.
This is my best recollection of how it works.  Hope this makes sense.
Bruce Jones in Salem, Oregon

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Heather Stovold hstov...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok, I have to admit that I haven't upgraded my Legacy for a few months (and
 haven't been doing a lot of genealogy as I expect to have another entry to
 make in my immediate family in a couple of months. )

 However, my not upgrading is VERY unusual for me, as I am generally right
 up-to-date, and even did some beta-testing a couple of years ago.   But I'm
 trying to figure out how the integration is going to work with Family
 Search.

 I am one of those people who do have access to the New Family Search right
 now.

 I know that when I update, that I can say yes or no to the integration, and
 I imagine I can change it at some point.

 What I want to know is how that works.   Because honestly, I don't
 necessarily want everything in my database uploaded to Family Search I
 don't want to upload anything until I'm very sure of the information.  And
 the same for getting stuff from Family Search in my database...  I don't
 want to automatically put into my database everything that is on New Family
 Search until I have checked into the info itself.

 So - how does the integration work?  Can I select who I want information
 transfered back and forth?

 I would say 98% of the time, I would download the software and try it out
 and see how I like the feature - but this feature, although I potentially am
 very interested in it and my love it, has me totally nervous about trying
 it, because of what it can mean, and how it might work.





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RE: [LegacyUG] Hijacking threads

2010-05-04 Thread Charles Apple
Thank you CE Wood. You are quite correct that this hijacked thread has nothing 
to do with Legacy and is not on topic. Thank you again.

Charles E. Apple

-Original Message-
From: CE Wood [mailto:wood...@msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 12:29 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Hijacking threads

Just how do the recent posts to this thread pertain to the subject?  The 
practice deters people from searching the archives before posting here.

Unfortunately, this is not an unusual occurrence on this and many other lists.


CE




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[LegacyUG] Legacy Publishing Centre - Page Orientation

2010-05-04 Thread Phil Ellis
I am a new user of Legacy. In the Legacy Publishing Centre can you make one
chapter have a different page orientation than the rest of the book? I want
to include a Lineage Chart in landscape but retain portrait for the other
chapters.

Phil



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[LegacyUG] Legacy Publishing Centre - Page Orientation

2010-05-04 Thread Phil Ellis
I am a new user of Legacy. In the Legacy Publishing Centre can you make one
chapter have a different page orientation than the rest of the book? I want
to include a Lineage Chart in landscape but retain portrait for the other
chapters.

Phil



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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Search Integration

2010-05-04 Thread Bruce Jones
I'm afraid my recollection is a little foggy, but I believe that it
was stated that they recognize the importance of sources and they will
be a priority in the ongoing improvement of FamilySearch

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net wrote:
 Bruce:

 Do you recall anything from the presentation about including sources with the 
 information that individuals upload from Legacy, or if there are sources with 
 the information already at newFamilySearch?

 I was under the impression that one goal of newFamilySearch was to clean 
 up/consolidate information in various LDS databases but can't see how things 
 would improve unless sources are provided and/or required.  Was there any 
 discussion about that?

 Kirsten


 -Original Message-
 From: Bruce Jones [mailto:juicebo...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:02 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Search Integration


 Heather,
 I attended the presentation by Luc (Legacy developer of the interface)
 at the BYU Computerized Family History and Genealogy Conference last
 week.  He obviously was using a beta version to demonstrate.  As I
 recall, when the two individuals information was shown (Legacy on the
 left and NewFamilySearch on the right), you selected a box by every
 piece of information that you wanted to send to the other person.  So,
 if you had a burial date  place that was not on NewFamilySearch, you
 clicked the box for JUST that piece of information and told it to
 upload it.  Conversely, if NewFamilySearch had a date you did not
 have, and you wanted to add it to your Legacy file, you clicked the
 box for JUST that piece of information and told Legacy to download it.
 This is my best recollection of how it works.  Hope this makes sense.
 Bruce Jones in Salem, Oregon

 On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Heather Stovold hstov...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok, I have to admit that I haven't upgraded my Legacy for a few months (and
 haven't been doing a lot of genealogy as I expect to have another entry to
 make in my immediate family in a couple of months. )

 However, my not upgrading is VERY unusual for me, as I am generally right
 up-to-date, and even did some beta-testing a couple of years ago.   But I'm
 trying to figure out how the integration is going to work with Family
 Search.

 I am one of those people who do have access to the New Family Search right
 now.

 I know that when I update, that I can say yes or no to the integration, and
 I imagine I can change it at some point.

 What I want to know is how that works.   Because honestly, I don't
 necessarily want everything in my database uploaded to Family Search I
 don't want to upload anything until I'm very sure of the information.  And
 the same for getting stuff from Family Search in my database...  I don't
 want to automatically put into my database everything that is on New Family
 Search until I have checked into the info itself.

 So - how does the integration work?  Can I select who I want information
 transfered back and forth?

 I would say 98% of the time, I would download the software and try it out
 and see how I like the feature - but this feature, although I potentially am
 very interested in it and my love it, has me totally nervous about trying
 it, because of what it can mean, and how it might work.





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[LegacyUG] GPS settings format for Legacy?

2010-05-04 Thread Mary Fowler Leek
Is the Legacy preferred format for GPS settings degree's, minutes and
seconds? Sorry to be so dense but I'm totally ignorant of how to enter the
GPS locations in Legacy and I 'think' there are two GPS recognized formats
for entering a location.

My thanks,

Mary



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[LegacyUG] Cannot receive messages from LUG

2010-05-04 Thread Phil Ellis
I apparently am having the same problem reported earlier by Lloyd Hite. I
have not received any of the responses to my original post - via e-mail. I
had to go to the e-mail archive to see everything.

Hence I have re-sent two messages to the list thinking that the first one
did not get posted. I have checked my spam filter etc. and cannot find a
problem. I have now contacted Legacy to see if the problem is there.

I have now corrected the HTML vs. plain text issue with this message.

Sorry for the multiple posts but I really did not know what was going on.

Phil Ellis




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RE: [LegacyUG] Family Search Integration

2010-05-04 Thread Kirsten Bowman
Thanks, Heather.  So it sounds like if you have a source attached to a 
particular date or location field in Legacy then uploading that date or 
location will not automatically include the attached source citation?

Kirsten
  -Original Message-
  From: Heather Stovold [mailto:hstov...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 11:28 AM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Search Integration


  You can post souces on newFamilySearch - but they are not required.

  It has been doing a good job of consolidating information from various LDS 
sources (a HUGE process of course) as well as anything people submit or put 
up but it is an interesting process because there may be a few people 
working on an individual's information, or there may be hundreds or thousands 
of people working on it.  I believe that is why most of Utah, even if LDS, have 
not yet been included in the beta, because of the number of people doing 
genealogy on the same people...   Basically there can be hundreds of submitters 
of same/similar information, and getting it consolidated correctly is hard.

  A lot of the stuff already on newFamilySearch doesn't have source information 
to primary or even what I would call a secondary source  a lot of the 
current source information just ways which LDS information database it came 
from - and for a lot the submitter name (which for a lot of the old stuff (ie 
submitted to an LDS database a long time ago) is just a code.  You are able to 
declare yourself the submitter of information that just has a code for the 
submitter name if you have a reasonable expectation of having been that person. 
  (ie, I have declared myself to be submitter #whatever) to some stuff that was 
submitted to the Ancestral File, as I did submit stuff back then, and the 
information being displayed from that submitter looked like it probably would 
match what I had back then


  On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net wrote:

Bruce:

Do you recall anything from the presentation about including sources with 
the information that individuals upload from Legacy, or if there are sources 
with the information already at newFamilySearch?

I was under the impression that one goal of newFamilySearch was to clean 
up/consolidate information in various LDS databases but can't see how things 
would improve unless sources are provided and/or required.  Was there any 
discussion about that?

Kirsten





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Re: [LegacyUG] GPS settings format for Legacy?

2010-05-04 Thread Scott Hall
Yes, Legacy's format is D-M-S.  You can use the coordinates calculator
to convert to D-M-S if need be, or you can calculate yourself,
multiplying or dividing by 60 as appropriate.

For example, GPS devices often use Degrees-Minutes and fractions of
minutes rather than seconds.  A latitude reading of 40 35.202 (40
degrees, 35.202 minutes) would convert to 40-75-12.12 in D-M-S format
(.144 x 60 = 8.64).

Sites like Epodunk use decimal degress only, for example 40.5867
degrees.  To convert to D-M-S, multiple the decimals by 60, and repeat
= 40 degrees plus .5867 x 60 = 35.202 minutes plus .202 x 60 = 12.12
seconds, or 40d 35m 12.12s.

Make sense?

Scott

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Mary Fowler Leek ml...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Is the Legacy preferred format for GPS settings degree's, minutes and
 seconds? Sorry to be so dense but I'm totally ignorant of how to enter the
 GPS locations in Legacy and I 'think' there are two GPS recognized formats
 for entering a location.

 My thanks,

 Mary



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Re: [LegacyUG] GPS settings format for Legacy?

2010-05-04 Thread Scott Hall
Wow .. sorry for the typos down there !!!  Let me repost this.  The
first paragraph was a mess.

This is better:


Yes, Legacy's format is D-M-S.  You can use the coordinates calculator
 to convert to D-M-S if need be, or you can calculate yourself,
 multiplying or dividing by 60 as appropriate.

 For example, GPS devices often use Degrees-Minutes and fractions of
 minutes rather than seconds.  A latitude reading of 40 35.202 (40
 degrees, 35.202 minutes) would convert to 40-35-12.12 in D-M-S format
 (.202 x 60 = 12.12).

 Sites like Epodunk use decimal degress only, for example 40.5867
 degrees.  To convert to D-M-S, multiple the decimals by 60, and repeat
 = 40 degrees plus .5867 x 60 = 35.202 minutes plus .202 x 60 = 12.12
 seconds, or 40d 35m 12.12s.

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, Legacy's format is D-M-S.  You can use the coordinates calculator
 to convert to D-M-S if need be, or you can calculate yourself,
 multiplying or dividing by 60 as appropriate.

 For example, GPS devices often use Degrees-Minutes and fractions of
 minutes rather than seconds.  A latitude reading of 40 35.202 (40
 degrees, 35.202 minutes) would convert to 40-75-12.12 in D-M-S format
 (.144 x 60 = 8.64).

 Sites like Epodunk use decimal degress only, for example 40.5867
 degrees.  To convert to D-M-S, multiple the decimals by 60, and repeat
 = 40 degrees plus .5867 x 60 = 35.202 minutes plus .202 x 60 = 12.12
 seconds, or 40d 35m 12.12s.

 Make sense?

 Scott

 On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Mary Fowler Leek ml...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Is the Legacy preferred format for GPS settings degree's, minutes and
 seconds? Sorry to be so dense but I'm totally ignorant of how to enter the
 GPS locations in Legacy and I 'think' there are two GPS recognized formats
 for entering a location.

 My thanks,

 Mary



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Publishing Centre - Page Orientation

2010-05-04 Thread Robert Carneal USA
I goofed. I said:
I don't see a place to accomplish what you are trying to do, but
Lineage Chart separate, and after you print your book, stick it
wherever you want it? Of course, that means the page your lineage
chart is on won't be numbered, but would that be all right?

I should have said:
I don't see a place to accomplish what you are trying to do, but
could you Lineage Chart separate, and after you print your book,
place the lineage chart wherever you want it? Of course, that means
the page your lineage chart is on won't be numbered with the rest of
the pages, but would that be all right?

Sorry about that folks.

Robert



At 2010-05-04  03:49 PM, you wrote:
I don't see a place to accomplish what you are trying to do, but
Lineage Chart separate, and after you print your book, stick it
wherever you want it? Of course, that means the page your lineage
chart is on won't be numbered, but would that be all right?

Robert

At 2010-05-04  02:05 PM, you wrote:
I am a new user of Legacy. In the Legacy Publishing Centre can you
make one chapter have a different page orientation than the rest of
the book? I want to include a Lineage Chart in landscape but retain
portrait for the other chapters.

Phil


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[LegacyUG] Apology

2010-05-04 Thread Robert Carneal USA
I sent my last couple post to the LUG in HTML. I am sorry, everyone.

Robert



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Publishing Centre - Page Orientation

2010-05-04 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
You could create the whole package using the 'wrong' orientation, avoiding 
printing the page in question, then print the other page, in the desired 
orientation, Microsoft doesn't like changing orientation in mid-print. Some of 
the products out there may do it, but this is not a Legacy option.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Tue, 5/4/10, Robert Carneal USA carnea...@roadrunner.com wrote:


From: Robert Carneal USA carnea...@roadrunner.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Publishing Centre - Page Orientation
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 1:49 PM


I don't see a place to accomplish what you are trying to do, but Lineage Chart 
separate, and after you print your book, stick it wherever you want it? Of 
course, that means the page your lineage chart is on won't be numbered, but 
would that be all right?

Robert

At 2010-05-04  02:05 PM, you wrote:

I am a new user of Legacy. In the Legacy Publishing Centre can you make one 
chapter have a different page orientation than the rest of the book? I want to 
include a Lineage Chart in landscape but retain portrait for the other chapters.
 
Phil

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[LegacyUG] Spell Checker Problem

2010-05-04 Thread Bobby Johnson
I am experiencing a problem with the spell check as I mentioned in an earlier 
post.  Occasionally, the spell checker
can't recognize words such as birth, Wife, Husband, York, Mother and many other 
common words.  Does anyone else have
this Problem?

I had a response from the first post that indicated I should close Legacy and 
restart it to clear the problem.  I
believe this to be a bug and hopefully it will be looked at by the programmers.

I would also suggest that an additional rule be added to the spell check 
options that would allow it to ignore capital
letters followed by a ., as in initials.

Bobby Johnson





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Re: [LegacyUG] Spell Checker Problem

2010-05-04 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Tue, 4 May 2010 18:18:32 -0400, Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net
wrote:

I would also suggest that an additional rule be added to the spell check 
options that would allow it to ignore capital
letters followed by a ., as in initials.

If the spell checker is a third-party control that Millennia has
licensed, the programmers may have no control over this.

--

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Re: [LegacyUG] error message

2010-05-04 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Sent offline help.

--- On Tue, 5/4/10, Barbara bschwart...@twcny.rr.com wrote:


From: Barbara bschwart...@twcny.rr.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] error message
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 3:10 AM





Hello fellow Legacy users, I need your help.
 
I attempted to install the new update to my Deluxe 7.4 program and I get a 
message Run time error '380': Invalid Property Value.  Plus, my Legacy 
Program does not open.
 
I would appreciate any help you may offer. 
 
Thanks  Barb

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Re: [LegacyUG] Spell Checker Problem

2010-05-04 Thread Mike Fry
On 2010/05/05 00:18, Bobby Johnson wrote:

 I am experiencing a problem with the spell check as I mentioned in
 an earlier post.  Occasionally, the spell checker can't recognize
 words such as birth, Wife, Husband, York, Mother and many other
 common words.  Does anyone else have this Problem?

How have you got the Spell Check Options set?

 I would also suggest that an additional rule be added to the spell
 check options that would allow it to ignore capital letters followed
 by a ., as in initials.

That you can achieve yourself. Although it will require 26 different
'words' added to the dictionary to be ignored :-)

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Re: [LegacyUG] Spell Checker Problem

2010-05-04 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Still problems, sorry. I added to my directory Mr. Mrs. but that isn't the real 
problem. I haven't had that problem, which is actually a Microsoft directory 
issue. (Legacy runs in Microsoft Access, which doesn't help either.) What 
fields are you typing these words into?, Notes, Places, Names, other?
Rich in LA CA

--- On Tue, 5/4/10, Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net wrote:

 From: Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Spell Checker Problem
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 3:18 PM
 I am experiencing a problem with the
 spell check as I mentioned in an earlier post. 
 Occasionally, the spell checker
 can't recognize words such as birth, Wife, Husband, York,
 Mother and many other common words.  Does anyone else
 have
 this Problem?

 I had a response from the first post that indicated I
 should close Legacy and restart it to clear the
 problem.  I
 believe this to be a bug and hopefully it will be looked at
 by the programmers.

 I would also suggest that an additional rule be added to
 the spell check options that would allow it to ignore
 capital
 letters followed by a ., as in initials.

 Bobby Johnson





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RE: [LegacyUG] Spell Checker Problem

2010-05-04 Thread Bobby Johnson
I hope this answers all the questions.

I checked all the options EXCEPT:
ignore capitalized words
ignore all-caps words
ignore mixed-case words
Auto correct

This has happened while checking the source detail text and maybe others.  I 
haven't tracked that.

If I add A., B., etc., then it is no longer an option.

I am not sure the dictionary is a third party dictionary.  There is a folder in 
the Legacy directory called Dictionaries with 3.26 MB of files in it.  I 
think it is a part of the Legacy program.

Bobby Johnson



-Original Message-
From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [mailto:fourpa...@verizon.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 6:47 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Spell Checker Problem

Still problems, sorry. I added to my directory Mr. Mrs. but that isn't the real 
problem. I haven't had that problem, which is actually a Microsoft directory 
issue. (Legacy runs in Microsoft Access, which doesn't help either.) What 
fields are you typing these words into?, Notes, Places, Names, other?
Rich in LA CA

--- On Tue, 5/4/10, Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net wrote:

 From: Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Spell Checker Problem
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 3:18 PM
 I am experiencing a problem with the
 spell check as I mentioned in an earlier post.�
 Occasionally, the spell checker
 can't recognize words such as birth, Wife, Husband, York,
 Mother and many other common words.� Does anyone else
 have
 this Problem?

 I had a response from the first post that indicated I
 should close Legacy and restart it to clear the
 problem.� I
 believe this to be a bug and hopefully it will be looked at
 by the programmers.

 I would also suggest that an additional rule be added to
 the spell check options that would allow it to ignore
 capital
 letters followed by a ., as in initials.

 Bobby Johnson





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Re: [LegacyUG] Spell Checker Problem

2010-05-04 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Tue, 4 May 2010 19:15:02 -0400, Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net
wrote:

I am not sure the dictionary is a third party dictionary.  There is a folder 
in the Legacy directory called Dictionaries with 3.26 MB of files in it. I 
think it is a part of the Legacy program.

Legacy installs WSpell.ocx, which appears to be the Wintertree Software
spell checker. I maintain that there *MAY NOT* be anything the Legacy
programmers can do about this behavior. Of course, it doesn't hurt to
ask them. But I wouldn't count on a fix.

--

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RE: [LegacyUG] Spell Checker Problem

2010-05-04 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
When you have Husband and Wife showing up in the 'check' list, it may be tied 
to Auto Correct. If you have both Husband and husband in the dictionary, it may 
be deciding to let you choose each time
Rich in LA CA


--- On Tue, 5/4/10, Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net wrote:

 From: Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net
 Subject: RE: [] Spell Checker Problem
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 4:15 PM
 I hope this answers all the
 questions.

 I checked all the options EXCEPT:
 ignore capitalized words
 ignore all-caps words
 ignore mixed-case words
 Auto correct

 This has happened while checking the source detail text and
 maybe others.  I haven't tracked that.

 If I add A., B., etc., then it is no longer an option.

 I am not sure the dictionary is a third party
 dictionary.  There is a folder in the Legacy directory
 called Dictionaries with 3.26 MB of files in it.  I
 think it is a part of the Legacy program.

 Bobby Johnson



 -Original Message-
 From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [mailto:fourpa...@verizon.net]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 6:47 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Spell Checker Problem

 Still problems, sorry. I added to my directory Mr. Mrs. but
 that isn't the real problem. I haven't had that problem,
 which is actually a Microsoft directory issue. (Legacy runs
 in Microsoft Access, which doesn't help either.) What fields
 are you typing these words into?, Notes, Places, Names,
 other?
 Rich in LA CA

 --- On Tue, 5/4/10, Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net
 wrote:

  From: Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Spell Checker Problem
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 3:18 PM
  I am experiencing a problem with the
  spell check as I mentioned in an earlier post.�
  Occasionally, the spell checker
  can't recognize words such as birth, Wife, Husband,
 York,
  Mother and many other common words.� Does anyone
 else
  have
  this Problem?
 
  I had a response from the first post that indicated I
  should close Legacy and restart it to clear the
  problem.� I
  believe this to be a bug and hopefully it will be
 looked at
  by the programmers.
 
  I would also suggest that an additional rule be added
 to
  the spell check options that would allow it to ignore
  capital
  letters followed by a ., as in initials.
 
  Bobby Johnson
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Spell Checker Problem

2010-05-04 Thread Carl Hilton


Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote:

On Tue, 4 May 2010 19:15:02 -0400, Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net
wrote:

I am not sure the dictionary is a third party dictionary.  There is a folder 
in the Legacy directory called Dictionaries with 3.26 MB of files in it. I 
think it is a part of the Legacy program.

Legacy installs WSpell.ocx, which appears to be the Wintertree Software
spell checker. I maintain that there *MAY NOT* be anything the Legacy
programmers can do about this behavior. Of course, it doesn't hurt to
ask them. But I wouldn't count on a fix.

--

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http://zippersoftware.com/ltools
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools



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RE: [LegacyUG] Spell Checker Problem

2010-05-04 Thread Bobby Johnson
As I said, I do not have auto correct checked.

Bobby Johnson

-Original Message-
From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [mailto:fourpa...@verizon.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:03 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Spell Checker Problem

When you have Husband and Wife showing up in the 'check' list, it may be tied 
to Auto Correct. If you have both Husband and husband in the dictionary, it may 
be deciding to let you choose each time
Rich in LA CA


--- On Tue, 5/4/10, Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net wrote:

 From: Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net
 Subject: RE: [] Spell Checker Problem
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 4:15 PM
 I hope this answers all the
 questions.

 I checked all the options EXCEPT:
 ignore capitalized words
 ignore all-caps words
 ignore mixed-case words
 Auto correct

 This has happened while checking the source detail text and
 maybe others.� I haven't tracked that.

 If I add A., B., etc., then it is no longer an option.

 I am not sure the dictionary is a third party
 dictionary.� There is a folder in the Legacy directory
 called Dictionaries with 3.26 MB of files in it.� I
 think it is a part of the Legacy program.

 Bobby Johnson



 -Original Message-
 From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [mailto:fourpa...@verizon.net]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 6:47 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Spell Checker Problem

 Still problems, sorry. I added to my directory Mr. Mrs. but
 that isn't the real problem. I haven't had that problem,
 which is actually a Microsoft directory issue. (Legacy runs
 in Microsoft Access, which doesn't help either.) What fields
 are you typing these words into?, Notes, Places, Names,
 other?
 Rich in LA CA

 --- On Tue, 5/4/10, Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net
 wrote:

  From: Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Spell Checker Problem
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 3:18 PM
  I am experiencing a problem with the
  spell check as I mentioned in an earlier post.?
  Occasionally, the spell checker
  can't recognize words such as birth, Wife, Husband,
 York,
  Mother and many other common words.? Does anyone
 else
  have
  this Problem?
 
  I had a response from the first post that indicated I
  should close Legacy and restart it to clear the
  problem.? I
  believe this to be a bug and hopefully it will be
 looked at
  by the programmers.
 
  I would also suggest that an additional rule be added
 to
  the spell check options that would allow it to ignore
  capital
  letters followed by a ., as in initials.
 
  Bobby Johnson
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Spell Checker Problem

2010-05-04 Thread Bobby Johnson
Ok!  I'll buy that.  But they should be talking to Wintertree about this.

Bobby Johnson

-Original Message-
From: Dennis M. Kowallek [mailto:kowal...@iglou.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 7:38 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Spell Checker Problem

On Tue, 4 May 2010 19:15:02 -0400, Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net
wrote:

I am not sure the dictionary is a third party dictionary.  There is a folder 
in the Legacy directory called Dictionaries with 3.26 MB of files in it. I 
think it is a part of the Legacy program.

Legacy installs WSpell.ocx, which appears to be the Wintertree Software
spell checker. I maintain that there *MAY NOT* be anything the Legacy
programmers can do about this behavior. Of course, it doesn't hurt to
ask them. But I wouldn't count on a fix.

--

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Re: [LegacyUG] Cannot receive messages from LUG

2010-05-04 Thread Jackie King
My guess is you need to check some of the blacklists to see if the
list is appearing there - and some ISP's will tell you which blacklists
they are using to block various email.

Jackie

Ron Ferguson wrote:
 Jack,

 I am not at all sure that it has anything to do with ISPs blocking the
 emails.

 When I changed to this address I had the same problem, I could send but not
 receive posts. No matter what I tried I could not get it to work, although I
 did not try using a different address. Eventually, I wrote to Ken, what he
 did I don't know, but he resolved my problem.

 Ron Ferguson
 _

 *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth
 http://www.fergys.co.uk
 Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
 And the Fergusons of N.W. England
 


 Jack Earnshaw wrote:

 Phil
 I'd be interested in hearing how you get on. I had exactly the same
 problem but subscribed again with a different address and get all the
 messages. But nobody could resolve why I couldn't receive them on my
 main address. In the end I just gave up and use the second address.
 It certainly seems to be related to legacy emails being blocked by a
 group of ISPs

 Jack

 -Original Message-
 From: Phil Ellis [mailto:elli...@cogeco.ca]
 Sent: 04 May 2010 21:04
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Cannot receive messages from LUG

 I apparently am having the same problem reported earlier by Lloyd
 Hite. I
 have not received any of the responses to my original post - via
 e-mail. I
 had to go to the e-mail archive to see everything.

 Hence I have re-sent two messages to the list thinking that the first
 one
 did not get posted. I have checked my spam filter etc. and cannot
 find a
 problem. I have now contacted Legacy to see if the problem is there.

 I have now corrected the HTML vs. plain text issue with this message.

 Sorry for the multiple posts but I really did not know what was going
 on.

 Phil Ellis






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Re: [LegacyUG] error message

2010-05-04 Thread Brian/Support
Go to our website at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp 
Solutions by Error Number, where you'll find a solution to this error
message.

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On 04/05/2010 6:10 AM, Barbara wrote:
 Hello fellow Legacy users, I need your help.
 I attempted to install the new update to my Deluxe 7.4 program and I get
 a message Run time error '380': Invalid Property Value. Plus, my
 Legacy Program does not open.
 I would appreciate any help you may offer.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Search Integration

2010-05-04 Thread Heather Stovold
Not sure with the integration with Legacy - but I'm pretty sure that the
Gedcom I uploaded to it included the sources that I said to put in the
Gedcom


On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net wrote:

  Thanks, Heather.  So it sounds like if you have a source attached to a
 particular date or location field in Legacy then uploading that date or
 location will not automatically include the attached source citation?

 Kirsten




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