Re: [LegacyUG] Where to put records?
I agree with the comments of JLB, I see little point in reinventing the wheel, indeed, I can see it causing much consfusion in the future. I repeat, the defaults are best for BMDs. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England JLB wrote: It's not so much a matter of 'entering BMD records' as it is entering the data found therein and then using the BMD's as source documents. And the 'list of many sources' I think you're talking about is not an issue although I agree it's 'bothersome' to scroll through looking for anything since it has no built-in search function. I have a list of about 1100 sources and it's a virtual nightmare. That's NOT where your BMD records go as I explained in previous email. It's Source Detail for particular individuals that are referred to in each BMD record. So, there's no difference in the time it takes to be able to see it compared to putting it under an Event. I believe the 'standard' way of doing this is to enter birth, christening, death and burial info in the default fields made available to you. Although there are probably some dissenters. And, as I recall from past threads, there, in fact, are and some of them may show up soon and explain themselves. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog On 5/19/2010 8:48 PM, blr...@optonline.net wrote: My point was, To find a source document,if I create an event for birth,in the event field,I just click on the event birth and it opens the edit event screen then I click the source icon an it opens the assigned sources,highlighting the birth entry and birth cert. If I don't create an event birth, to find the record,I need to hit the source icon and scroll/look for the birth record,in a list of many sources this can be bothersome. Don't think it really matters in nano-seconds,but I was wondering how others enter their BMD records,If there's a standard way to do this. Thank you, Brian Lehman Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
I have a multitude of unknown spouses, which I wish to leave as blank. V7 now seems to be able to do this, although I have found an odd instance where unknown still appears, and have yet to work out why. I hope that I misunderstand when you say There needs to be a string that automatically removes the someone when an actual name is entered. How is a machine expected to know whether or not the unknown should be replaced, it could be a totally different relationship. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England CE Wood wrote: I think she is asking why the program doesn't correct its mistake. As one gathers more information, there will always be spouses discovered. There needs to be a string that automatically removes the someone when an actual name is entered. Correcting one marriage is not the issue. Correcting them ALL is ridiculous. Legacy did say this error had been fixed. I guess not, huh? CE -Original Message- From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' I once had this happen to me. What I finally came up with to fix it was to unlink the couple and then re-link them. I did this using the Marriage List. Jennifer From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:18 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' I have just been reading through a report I created yesterday (after having converted pdf to doc, edited – or so I thought – resaved as pdf, uploaded to my newly created wiki!) and have noticed that I have the ubiquitous Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN. I thought this problem had been resolved some time ago. Originally I had an unknown wife for Fred, but recently added a name. Obviously the someone is a hangover from when her name was unknown. How does one resolve this problem other than having to read through every report word for word once it has been created. At the moment I tend to rely on Word’s spelling error identifier to check for spelling errors, as well as making any additions or deletions that I know I need – I’d prefer not to have to check the wording of every marriage statement just in case the extraneous ‘someone’ is in place. Cheers Jan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] individual information - occupation
Hi Guys, On the individual information page, there is a lot of useful information about the individual, which at a glance tells you the most important events. However, I find that I consistently wish to know the persons occupation. Was this individual a tailor or a shoemaker? Is there any way that I can insert the occupation of an individual on the 'one-page view' - Individual Information. Regards, Mike Bridgeford (M.B.A.,B.Sc. Mech. Eng.,F.S.A.I.Mech.Eng.,M.S.A.I.M.M.,Pr.Eng.) P.O. Box 325 Plettenberg Bay 6600 South Africa tel:+27445359434 fax: +27865151814 email:mikebridgef...@telkomsa.net alt1 email: mikebridgef...@iib.ws alt2 email: mikebridgef...@gmail.com mobile: +27832667634 DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Testing - please ignore
Please ignore this message - I am trying to see if my email rule re Plain Text to LUG is working. Cheers Jan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Testing - please ignore
Sorry - looks like I have to check every time I send to LUG Cheers Jan From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:03 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Testing - please ignore Please ignore this message – I am trying to see if my email rule re Plain Text to LUG is working. Cheers Jan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] individual information - occupation
On 2010/05/20 09:09, mike bridgeford wrote: On the individual information page, there is a lot of useful information about the individual, which at a glance tells you the most important events. However, I find that I consistently wish to know the persons occupation. Was this individual a tailor or a shoemaker? Is there any way that I can insert the occupation of an individual on the ‘one-page view’ – *Individual Information*. Not on the 'Individual's Information' page as such. You can always add one or more Events named Occupation, which will give a chronological view of what the person did at various times (census, marriage, death, baptisms of kids ...) On the 'Family' tab, you can change any of the default labels (Born, Bapt, Died, Bur etc) but I prefer to change the 'Death Cau' to give the occupation. To do this:- a) Right-click on one of the labels - gives Customise Display b) Click on the ... button for the last label - gives a list of fields c) Select Event - gives Master Event Definition List d) Select Occupation - DONE! -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Don't respond - trying to resolve issue still
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Re: [LegacyUG] Testing - please ignore
On 2010/05/20 10:03, Jan Roberts wrote: Please ignore this message – I am trying to see if my email rule re Plain Text to LUG is working. No, it's not! Looking at the message source, you've got a text part and an html part. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Testing - please ignore
On 2010/05/20 10:06, Jan Roberts wrote: Sorry - looks like I have to check every time I send to LUG That one was plain text :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] individual information - occupation
Since people can have more than one in a lifetime, I usually add it as it is from the census info as one event called Residence i.e. date/location/occupation. That obviously wouldn't work if you want to separate out the occupation in which case it needs to be a separate Event, spanning whatever the dates are. How many times do we know, though, what exactly a person was doing between answering questions for census-takers? - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog On 5/20/2010 12:09 AM, mike bridgeford wrote: Hi Guys, On the individual information page, there is a lot of useful information about the individual, which at a glance tells you the most important events. However, I find that I consistently wish to know the persons occupation. Was this individual a tailor or a shoemaker? Is there any way that I can insert the occupation of an individual on the ‘one-page view’ – *Individual Information*. Regards, Mike Bridgeford (M.B.A.,B.Sc. Mech. Eng.,F.S.A.I.Mech.Eng.,M.S.A.I.M.M.,Pr.Eng.) P.O. Box 325 Plettenberg Bay 6600 South Africa tel: +27445359434 fax: +27865151814 email: mikebridgef...@telkomsa.net mailto:mikebridgef...@telkomsa.net alt1 email: mikebridgef...@iib.ws mailto:mikebridgef...@iib.ws alt2 email: mikebridgef...@gmail.com mobile: +27832667634 DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
I leave the name space blank if I have no clue what the name was. Since my Scandinavians have names like Anna Pedersdotter, I might 'create' a name like that (or Mrs. Johnson, which I hate) but I leave it blank otherwise. The program fills in the unknown into the screen, but does not print them on paper. I like it that way, so I am happy. I know some people like/need to type in unknown, that is a choice. I think it comes down to when the LDS stopped accepting input of unknown, (heard as RUMOR) the climate changed. I suspect that the Legacy crew, some of whom are LDS, are following the guidance of the church (not told anything, officially). In any case, both groups and I leave the fields blank/empty instead of 'unknown'. I decided years ago that if all I had was the possible parent of my person may have the same surname (or the child didn't have one), a birthdate range of over 20 years, in a country or continent as a location, I didn't have enough to bother with. Some of the sentences come out looking stupid (my opinion) but I will send instead a cover letter staying that this is still a work in progress. As per above, I don't think Legacy cares what you put, only that you tell it to ignore the 'potential problems'. That way only the new people you add that are missing stuff, or use non-standard names, will show up as a problem. Then you can fix or accept that you can never fix it. Example: I have church records that states the birth was on 30 Feb (forgot the year). I later found out that the area used that date for a few decades. The priest who did it didn't know (or care) that someday someone would be bothered by it. If you want to put unknown in, just give the computer permission to not pester you about it. Rich in LA CA --- On Wed, 5/19/10, JLB j...@jgen.ws wrote: From: JLB j...@jgen.ws Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 10:50 PM Has L7 fixed it? I remember this going around once before. Why does Legacy have a problem with 'unknown' as a name? I have a list of them in my Potential Problems list. What is Legacy OK with as a name for an unknown person? - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog On 5/19/2010 10:25 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: Since my situations of changing unknowns to knowns, were solved back in L5, when I had to repair it myself. I didn't know L7 had fixed it. I in L5, removed all my unknowns, because the program installed the word unknown (in the screen only, not reports) which was what I had been wanting to have done. So, I did it the old way, and will never again put the name unknown for anyone. Let the program do field fills for the screen. Rich in LA CA --- On Wed, 5/19/10, CE Woodwood...@msn.com wrote: From: CE Woodwood...@msn.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 9:57 PM I think she is asking why the program doesn't correct its mistake. As one gathers more information, there will always be spouses discovered. There needs to be a string that automatically removes the someone when an actual name is entered. Correcting one marriage is not the issue. Correcting them ALL is ridiculous. Legacy did say this error had been fixed. I guess not, huh? CE -Original Message- From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' I once had this happen to me. What I finally came up with to fix it was to unlink the couple and then re-link them. I did this using the Marriage List. Jennifer From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:18 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' I have just been reading through a report I created yesterday (after having converted pdf to doc, edited – or so I thought – resaved as pdf, uploaded to my newly created wiki!) and have noticed that I have the ubiquitous Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN. I thought this problem had been resolved some time ago. Originally I had an unknown wife for Fred, but recently added a name. Obviously the someone is a hangover from when her name was unknown. How does one resolve this problem other than having to read through every report word for word once it has been created. At the moment I tend to rely on Word’s spelling error identifier to check for spelling errors, as well as making any additions or deletions that I know I need – I’d prefer not to have to check the wording of every marriage statement just in case the extraneous ‘someone’ is in place. Cheers Jan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] When a married couple have the same grandparents, how highlight this?
RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote If A and B are siblings, then that is the relationship that is closest, and should be used. In my own family, I am my 3rd, 5th and 7th cousin to myself; but I would not call my brother my 3rd cousin, or my sister my 5th cousin. It is not inaccurate, but can be misleading. I agree the marriage of siblings can cause many medical and legal issues, but that is customs, morals, and medical. A and B chose this situation, aware of the taboo additude of society, computers and programs don't make judgement calls, people do. Whoa! How did we get on to morals and taboos and so on? All the OP wanted to know was whether Legacy could or should alert us when we are entering individuals who are or could be duplicates of people already in our file. In this case the OP had entered a husband and wife and their respective sets of parents grandparents, without realising that the parents were siblings and thus shared the same grandparents. I believe FTM does says something like Is this Joe Bloggs the same as the other Joe Bloggs? but Legacy doesn't do that. I think it's something which could be requested (Suggest a new feature on Legacy Home tab) but if it was ever incorporated, I hope it would be an option to select or not. Personally, I would switch it off! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
Ron Ferguson wrote I hope that I misunderstand when you say There needs to be a string that automatically removes the someone when an actual name is entered. How is a machine expected to know whether or not the unknown should be replaced, it could be a totally different relationship. I don't think that's a problem. When you add a child to someone, without giving him/her a spouse it shows in Reports as X married someone. If you then click in the blank area for the spouse of X, parent of the child, and enter details those details do or should replace Someone on the Report. However, if you click on the Spouses icon because you want to give X a new (different to the parent of the child) spouse the child's parent shows as Unknown and you add a second spouse. The machine can definitely distinguish between you adding details to the placeholder for an unknown spouse and adding a new (or existing) person as an additional spouse. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
Jenny M Benson wrote: Ron Ferguson wrote I hope that I misunderstand when you say There needs to be a string that automatically removes the someone when an actual name is entered. How is a machine expected to know whether or not the unknown should be replaced, it could be a totally different relationship. I don't think that's a problem. When you add a child to someone, without giving him/her a spouse it shows in Reports as X married someone. If you then click in the blank area for the spouse of X, parent of the child, and enter details those details do or should replace Someone on the Report. However, if you click on the Spouses icon because you want to give X a new (different to the parent of the child) spouse the child's parent shows as Unknown and you add a second spouse. The machine can definitely distinguish between you adding details to the placeholder for an unknown spouse and adding a new (or existing) person as an additional spouse. Jenny , What you say is true, and I woud add that if right clickAdd Spouse is used then the unknown is also replaced, so I take your point made in the last paragraph, but *I* chose which way to enter the spouse, not the machine. The point which I was trying to make, obviously not very well, was that these selection processes, where we have the option of adding a new spouse *or* replacing an unknown must remain. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
Ron Ferguson wrote The point which I was trying to make, obviously not very well, was that these selection processes, where we have the option of adding a new spouse *or* replacing an unknown must remain. Oh heavens, yes! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Where to put records?
wrote To find a source document,if I create an event for birth,in the event field,I just click on the event birth and it opens the edit event screen then I click the source icon an it opens the assigned sources,highlighting the birth entry and birth cert. If I don't create an event birth, to find the record,I need to hit the source icon and scroll/look for the birth record,in a list of many sources this can be bothersome. But surely its just as quick to access the record if it is attached to the Birth field? Just position the cursor in the person's Birthdate or Birth Location field and click the Sources icon. The Assigned Sources screen opens with the first Birth Source highlighted. It takes longer to find the appropriate Event Source if you need to scroll down the Events to find the one you're interested in - not likely for a Birth, I know, but for others you might need to scroll down before you can select the one you want. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
Jan, Did you try what fixed this for me? Go to the Marriage List, find your couple, then go to Options, and remove the marriage link (make sure you note the RIN of each person first). Then go to the Name List, find the husband, say, click on him to open him in Family View, then add a spouse, choosing add existing person, and add back the spouse. Jennifer -Original Message- From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:00 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' And my original question was - why, now that I have added the name of the previously unknown parent - do I get 'Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN' when I create a Descendant Narrative report? The word 'someone' is now superfluous. I would expect Legacy to use only the name I have entered. Cheers Jan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
Jan, I appreciate that, and had I been able to give you a solution I would have done, but I don't know. Logically it should be some sort of link which is still there in your database, and I cannot see your database. Others have made suggestions, but if you click the husband icon is the unkown husband stll there, if so delete it. I am sure someone else has suggested this though. My apologies for the continuance of the highjacking of your thread! Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Jan Roberts wrote: And my original question was - why, now that I have added the name of the previously unknown parent - do I get 'Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN' when I create a Descendant Narrative report? The word 'someone' is now superfluous. I would expect Legacy to use only the name I have entered. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 20:06 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' Ron Ferguson wrote The point which I was trying to make, obviously not very well, was that these selection processes, where we have the option of adding a new spouse *or* replacing an unknown must remain. Oh heavens, yes! Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
Jan Roberts wrote And my original question was - why, now that I have added the name of the previously unknown parent - do I get 'Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN' when I create a Descendant Narrative report? The word 'someone' is now superfluous. I would expect Legacy to use only the name I have entered. Indeed. And in my case it does, so I don't know why this is not happening for you. Interestingly, I see that if I give a child to a man, the Report reads X married someone. She had a child but if I then give a name to someone the Reports reads X married Y. They had a child. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Adding Column to Descendant Report
I wish to send a descendant report to a cousin who does not have Legacy
(shock horror{;-)) and I would like to add another column to show marriage
dates, is this possible and if so how do I do it.
At the moment I have four columns, 1. Descendants 2. Sex 3. Birth Date 4.
Death Date. I would now like to add Marriage Date in the fifth column
Colin.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding Column to Descendant Report
Colin Liddell wrote:
I wish to send a descendant report to a cousin who does not have
Legacy (shock horror{;-)) and I would like to add another column to
show marriage dates, is this possible and if so how do I do it.
At the moment I have four columns, 1. Descendants 2. Sex 3. Birth
Date 4. Death Date. I would now like to add Marriage Date in the
fifth column
Colin.
Colin
Try OptionsCustomise Columns and use the button with 3 dots to select
marriage from the drop down. Details are given in the Help file at the
bottom right of the Options Screen.
Ron Ferguson
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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding Column to Descendant Report
Colin Liddell wrote
I wish to send a descendant report to a cousin who does not have Legacy
(shock horror{;-)) and I would like to add another column to show
marriage dates, is this possible and if so how do I do it. At the
moment I have four columns, 1. Descendants 2. Sex 3. Birth Date 4.
Death Date. I would now like to add Marriage Date in the fifth column
Unless I am misunderstanding you, we have 2 separate issues here. As you
refer to columns, I presume you are viewing data on the Descendant tab.
This presents the columns you mention and you can add whichever ones you
want by clicking on OptionsCustomise Columns.
Irrespective of whether you have a Marriage column on the Descendant tab
you can include the information in the Descendant Report by selecting
Report Options and selecting the appropriate radio button on the Include
tab.
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[LegacyUG] Where to put records?
I wanted to know how others entered their BMD records and I have my answer,thanks.And Jenny M.Benson said: Just position the cursor in the person's Birthdate orBirth Location field and click the Sources icon. The Assigned Sourcesscreen opens with the first Birth Source highlighted.I never knew that,thanks for pointing it out,that solves my dilemma!Thanks again for all the replies.Brian Lehman Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Adding Column to Descendant Report
- Original Message -
From: Jenny M Benson
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding Column to Descendant Report
Colin Liddell wrote
I wish to send a descendant report to a cousin who does not have Legacy
(shock horror{;-)) and I would like to add another column to show
marriage dates, is this possible and if so how do I do it. At the
moment I have four columns, 1. Descendants 2. Sex 3. Birth Date 4.
Death Date. I would now like to add Marriage Date in the fifth column
Unless I am misunderstanding you, we have 2 separate issues here. As you
refer to columns, I presume you are viewing data on the Descendant tab.
This presents the columns you mention and you can add whichever ones you
want by clicking on OptionsCustomise Columns.
This I have now done per instructions from Ron!
Irrespective of whether you have a Marriage column on the Descendant tab
you can include the information in the Descendant Report by selecting
Report Options and selecting the appropriate radio button on the Include
tab.
I missed this one, I did look there. Which button do you mean, the Events
Button? I looked at this but did not think it would do the trick.
Many thanks Jenny.
Colin
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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding Column to Descendant Report
- Original Message -
From: Ron Ferguson
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding Column to Descendant Report
Colin Liddell wrote:
I wish to send a descendant report to a cousin who does not have
Legacy (shock horror{;-)) and I would like to add another column to
show marriage dates, is this possible and if so how do I do it.
At the moment I have four columns, 1. Descendants 2. Sex 3. Birth
Date 4. Death Date. I would now like to add Marriage Date in the
fifth column
Colin.
Colin
Try OptionsCustomise Columns and use the button with 3 dots to select
marriage from the drop down. Details are given in the Help file at the
bottom right of the Options Screen.
Ron Ferguson
___
Thanks Ron, I knew it would be easy. I did go that route but did not realise
which step to take when I clicked on Customize Columns. I also looked at the
Help but could not work it out.
I am afraid I am a bit slow on the uptake.{;-)
Colin.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
Yes Jennifer, I did try that - to no effect unfortunately. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:18 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' Jan, Did you try what fixed this for me? Go to the Marriage List, find your couple, then go to Options, and remove the marriage link (make sure you note the RIN of each person first). Then go to the Name List, find the husband, say, click on him to open him in Family View, then add a spouse, choosing add existing person, and add back the spouse. Jennifer -Original Message- From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:00 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' And my original question was - why, now that I have added the name of the previously unknown parent - do I get 'Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN' when I create a Descendant Narrative report? The word 'someone' is now superfluous. I would expect Legacy to use only the name I have entered. Cheers Jan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
I have the same problem in a report I just generated. What I don't understand is when there is a blank for the given name or surname, but I know the other, and later I add the new information into the same person's data fields, why would there still be an unknown? Marianne -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk Sent: May 20, 2010 2:41 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' I have a multitude of unknown spouses, which I wish to leave as blank. V7 now seems to be able to do this, although I have found an odd instance where unknown still appears, and have yet to work out why. I hope that I misunderstand when you say There needs to be a string that automatically removes the someone when an actual name is entered. How is a machine expected to know whether or not the unknown should be replaced, it could be a totally different relationship. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England CE Wood wrote: I think she is asking why the program doesn't correct its mistake. As one gathers more information, there will always be spouses discovered. There needs to be a string that automatically removes the someone when an actual name is entered. Correcting one marriage is not the issue. Correcting them ALL is ridiculous. Legacy did say this error had been fixed. I guess not, huh? CE -Original Message- From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' I once had this happen to me. What I finally came up with to fix it was to unlink the couple and then re-link them. I did this using the Marriage List. Jennifer From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:18 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' I have just been reading through a report I created yesterday (after having converted pdf to doc, edited – or so I thought – resaved as pdf, uploaded to my newly created wiki!) and have noticed that I have the ubiquitous Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN. I thought this problem had been resolved some time ago. Originally I had an unknown wife for Fred, but recently added a name. Obviously the someone is a hangover from when her name was unknown. How does one resolve this problem other than having to read through every report word for word once it has been created. At the moment I tend to rely on Word’s spelling error identifier to check for spelling errors, as well as making any additions or deletions that I know I need – I’d prefer not to have to check the wording of every marriage statement just in case the extraneous ‘someone’ is in place. Cheers Jan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Adding Column to Descendant Report
On 2010/05/20 14:12, Colin Liddell wrote: Unless I am misunderstanding you, we have 2 separate issues here. As you refer to columns, I presume you are viewing data on the Descendant tab. This presents the columns you mention and you can add whichever ones you want by clicking on OptionsCustomise Columns. This I have now done per instructions from Ron! Irrespective of whether you have a Marriage column on the Descendant tab you can include the information in the Descendant Report by selecting Report Options and selecting the appropriate radio button on the Include tab. I missed this one, I did look there. Which button do you mean, the Events Button? I looked at this but did not think it would do the trick. Ron and Jenny have done their best to confuse you further :-) They're talking about two different things. Ron (and you) were referring to the report that can be generated directly from the Descendants tab, whilst Jenny introduced the alternative Descendants report available under the Reports menu. Two different reports with the same title - at least, that's how it appears. From the Descendants tab, selecting the Print button simply brings up the same Descendants Report as is available from the Reportws menu. So, just the one report. What is confusing, is the fact that on the Descendants tab, it is possible to add extra columns, but that doing so has no effect on the Descendants Report. Unless you go into the Report Options, select the Include tab, and tick the marriage date place. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] When a married couple have the same grandparents, how highlight this?
Does LTools have this feature? I haven't used that program yet, but when I previewed it I thought I remember seeing the option. Scott On 5/20/10, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote If A and B are siblings, then that is the relationship that is closest, and should be used. In my own family, I am my 3rd, 5th and 7th cousin to myself; but I would not call my brother my 3rd cousin, or my sister my 5th cousin. It is not inaccurate, but can be misleading. I agree the marriage of siblings can cause many medical and legal issues, but that is customs, morals, and medical. A and B chose this situation, aware of the taboo additude of society, computers and programs don't make judgement calls, people do. Whoa! How did we get on to morals and taboos and so on? All the OP wanted to know was whether Legacy could or should alert us when we are entering individuals who are or could be duplicates of people already in our file. In this case the OP had entered a husband and wife and their respective sets of parents grandparents, without realising that the parents were siblings and thus shared the same grandparents. I believe FTM does says something like Is this Joe Bloggs the same as the other Joe Bloggs? but Legacy doesn't do that. I think it's something which could be requested (Suggest a new feature on Legacy Home tab) but if it was ever incorporated, I hope it would be an option to select or not. Personally, I would switch it off! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Sent from my mobile device Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Adding Column to Descendant Report
- Original Message -
From: Mike Fry
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding Column to Descendant Report
On 2010/05/20 14:12, Colin Liddell wrote:
Unless I am misunderstanding you, we have 2 separate issues here. As you
refer to columns, I presume you are viewing data on the Descendant tab.
This presents the columns you mention and you can add whichever ones you
want by clicking on OptionsCustomise Columns.
This I have now done per instructions from Ron!
Irrespective of whether you have a Marriage column on the Descendant tab
you can include the information in the Descendant Report by selecting
Report Options and selecting the appropriate radio button on the Include
tab.
I missed this one, I did look there. Which button do you mean, the Events
Button? I looked at this but did not think it would do the trick.
Ron and Jenny have done their best to confuse you further :-) They're
talking about two different things. Ron (and you) were referring to the
report that can be generated directly from the Descendants tab, whilst
Jenny introduced the alternative Descendants report available under the
Reports menu.
Two different reports with the same title - at least, that's how it
appears. From the Descendants tab, selecting the Print button simply
brings up the same Descendants Report as is available from the Reportws
menu. So, just the one report.
What is confusing, is the fact that on the Descendants tab, it is
possible to add extra columns, but that doing so has no effect on the
Descendants Report. Unless you go into the Report Options, select the
Include tab, and tick the marriage date place.
--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg
--
Thank you for the explanation Mike, it is the Descendants Report in your
last paragraph and the option you mention that wanted and have done.
I now have the report I want, now if I can only convince my cousin to switch
from FTM to Legacy, it will make life much easier and I will be much
happier.{:-)
My thanks to Ron, Jenny and Mike as I have learnt something from each of
you.
Regards,
Colin.
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Re: [LegacyUG] When a married couple have the same grandparents, how highlight this?
On 2010/05/19 21:21, T Bredin wrote: I have a married couple that share/have the same grandparents but different parents. I guess this makes them second cousins.I did not notice this when I input the data for this couple as each's data came from different sources. Later I connected them by deleting one copy of the grandparents and hooking the 'loose' children to the remaining duplicate grandparents. When doing the 'ancestor' display, the ancestor chart in V7, and the ancestor chart in Charting there is nothing to call these common grand parents to my attention as each 'ancestor' line from the married couple lead back to separate listings/boxes of the same grandparent people. (if shown, the person-id is the same for the same person at the different location in the ancestor chart. ) My question is, does anyone have a trick, or method to highlight this on reports/charts/screens?Would you expect Legacy to warn you when entering data that a 'duplicate' seems to exist? Your original question seems to have stirred up confusion, which generally means you haven't been able to state your case sufficiently well enough. A simple diagram is worth reams of confused description. Grandfather = Grandmother | | --- | | | | Child1=spouse1Child2=spouse2 | | Kid1= Kid2 This is two first cousins marrying each other. What's your situation look like? -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
How did you add the new partner? The method used is critical - see previous posts in this thread. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England mbstx wrote: I have the same problem in a report I just generated. What I don't understand is when there is a blank for the given name or surname, but I know the other, and later I add the new information into the same person's data fields, why would there still be an unknown? Marianne -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk Sent: May 20, 2010 2:41 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' I have a multitude of unknown spouses, which I wish to leave as blank. V7 now seems to be able to do this, although I have found an odd instance where unknown still appears, and have yet to work out why. I hope that I misunderstand when you say There needs to be a string that automatically removes the someone when an actual name is entered. How is a machine expected to know whether or not the unknown should be replaced, it could be a totally different relationship. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England CE Wood wrote: I think she is asking why the program doesn't correct its mistake. As one gathers more information, there will always be spouses discovered. There needs to be a string that automatically removes the someone when an actual name is entered. Correcting one marriage is not the issue. Correcting them ALL is ridiculous. Legacy did say this error had been fixed. I guess not, huh? CE -Original Message- From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' I once had this happen to me. What I finally came up with to fix it was to unlink the couple and then re-link them. I did this using the Marriage List. Jennifer From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:18 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' I have just been reading through a report I created yesterday (after having converted pdf to doc, edited – or so I thought – resaved as pdf, uploaded to my newly created wiki!) and have noticed that I have the ubiquitous Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN. I thought this problem had been resolved some time ago. Originally I had an unknown wife for Fred, but recently added a name. Obviously the someone is a hangover from when her name was unknown. How does one resolve this problem other than having to read through every report word for word once it has been created. At the moment I tend to rely on Word’s spelling error identifier to check for spelling errors, as well as making any additions or deletions that I know I need – I’d prefer not to have to check the wording of every marriage statement just in case the extraneous ‘someone’ is in place. Cheers Jan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Adding Column to Descendant Report
Colin Liddell wrote I missed this one, I did look there. Which button do you mean, the Events Button? I looked at this but did not think it would do the trick. Not sure what *you* mean by Events button, but whether you go from the main toolbar and select Reports, and choose Descendant Chart or you go from the Descendent view and click on the Print button, you will end up with the main selection screen for Descendent Charts on which there is a large button marked Report Options. That leads you to a screen with 8 tabs, one of which is labelled Include. The only options on that tab actually available to you for a Descendant Chart are Marriage date and place, Include spouse's parents, RINs MRINs and UserID. You select the first one. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] When a married couple have the same grandparents, how highlight this?
To answer the original question, if I'm understanding it correctly, on the Report Options Format Tab, ensure that Don't repeat duplicate lines is checked. Does that give you what you want, or at least close to it, as far as your reports go? I have longed wished for a warning that I may be about to enter a duplicate person, as some programs I've used in the past do, but alas it is not available on Legacy. Connie From: T Bredin [mailto:tbredinl...@gmail.com] I have a married couple that share/have the same grandparents but different parents. I guess this makes them second cousins. I did not notice this when I input the data for this couple as each's data came from different sources. Later I connected them by deleting one copy of the grandparents and hooking the 'loose' children to the remaining duplicate grandparents. When doing the 'ancestor' display, the ancestor chart in V7, and the ancestor chart in Charting there is nothing to call these common grand parents to my attention as each 'ancestor' line from the married couple lead back to separate listings/boxes of the same grandparent people. (if shown, the person-id is the same for the same person at the different location in the ancestor chart. ) My question is, does anyone have a trick, or method to highlight this on reports/charts/screens? Would you expect Legacy to warn you when entering data that a 'duplicate' seems to exist? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
Marianne, If you are using 7.0.0.109, that likely explains your problem. This issue was fixed in a subsequent update. While I tend to wait a week or two before downloading an update, there is no reason I can think of to avoid downloading and using the current edition of Legacy (unless you're one of those people who want to stick with Legacy 6.0). You can turn off the newFamilySearch features of 7.4 if you want (which I recommend if you are not LDS), and you are left with the version you have now, except that several bugs like this one have been fixed. Connie --- On Thu, 5/20/10, mbstx msz...@mindspring.com wrote: In the Descendant Narrative report I get Sally married someone Theodore Parker. I also just checked, and there are no unknown spouses in the husband/wife of icon in the various persons data block. I'm running 7.0.0.109 [no I haven't updated to 7.4 because of issues that keep coming up], on Windows XP. Marianne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
And my response was that this error was reported by Legacy as having been fixed: Legacy 7.4 Revision History: 30 January 2010 Build - Fixed Items - Marriage Screen Phrases - Changed some of the rules for when married someone is used. 12 March 201 Build - Marriage Phrase for reports - Customized wording was reverting back to the default phrase. Fixed. As to Ron's reference to a machine knowing, the program knows when a box is blank, as in searches. A command can be written that removes the word someone whenever a spouse is entered into that box. Whether the letters constitute a new name or an existing one is irrelevant. The box is no longer blank. Carolyn -Original Message- From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:00 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' And my original question was - why, now that I have added the name of the previously unknown parent - do I get 'Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN' when I create a Descendant Narrative report? The word 'someone' is now superfluous. I would expect Legacy to use only the name I have entered. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 20:06 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' Ron Ferguson wrote The point which I was trying to make, obviously not very well, was that these selection processes, where we have the option of adding a new spouse *or* replacing an unknown must remain. Oh heavens, yes! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2868 - Release Date: 05/19/10 11:26:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
See my later posts, that is not what I said, nor what I meant. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England CE Wood wrote: And my response was that this error was reported by Legacy as having been fixed: Legacy 7.4 Revision History: 30 January 2010 Build - Fixed Items - Marriage Screen Phrases - Changed some of the rules for when married someone is used. 12 March 201 Build - Marriage Phrase for reports - Customized wording was reverting back to the default phrase. Fixed. As to Ron's reference to a machine knowing, the program knows when a box is blank, as in searches. A command can be written that removes the word someone whenever a spouse is entered into that box. Whether the letters constitute a new name or an existing one is irrelevant. The box is no longer blank. Carolyn -Original Message- From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:00 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' And my original question was - why, now that I have added the name of the previously unknown parent - do I get 'Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN' when I create a Descendant Narrative report? The word 'someone' is now superfluous. I would expect Legacy to use only the name I have entered. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 20:06 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' Ron Ferguson wrote The point which I was trying to make, obviously not very well, was that these selection processes, where we have the option of adding a new spouse *or* replacing an unknown must remain. Oh heavens, yes! Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Adding Column to Descendant Report
Mike Fry wrote Ron and Jenny have done their best to confuse you further :-) They're talking about two different things. Ron (and you) were referring to the report that can be generated directly from the Descendants tab, whilst Jenny introduced the alternative Descendants report available under the Reports menu. Two different reports with the same title - at least, that's how it appears. From the Descendants tab, selecting the Print button simply brings up the same Descendants Report as is available from the Reportws menu. So, just the one report. Unless I am going completely doolally you have just contradicted yourself. In the first paragraph you refer to the report that can be generated directly from the Descendants tab and to the alternative Descendants report available under the Reports menu and at the start of the second say these are two different reports. Then you go on to say that selecting the Print button [on the Descendants tab] brings up the same Report as on the Reports Menu. If it is the same report, how can you say they are two different ones? If there is another Report available from the Descendants tab, other than by selecting the Print button, then I am not seeing it. Also, I did say in my response to the OP that Irrespective of whether you have a Marriage column on the Descendant tab you can include the information in the Descendant Report by selecting Report Options and selecting the appropriate radio button on the Include tab. I'm afraid I don't see any difference in what you are saying and what I said, other than that you say there are two different Reports, which I dispute but am prepared to be proved wrong. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Can I use my backup to install my data to the free version?
Hello,I have a tree In Legacy that I wish to install to another computer for my cousin who is not really into genealogy but she wishes to have the info on her computer.I plan on installing the Legacy free version on her's and I was wondering in I can use the backup from my tree to install it to her Legacy file,will the media be installed also?Thank you for you advise,Brian Lehman Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Can I use my backup to install my data to the free version?
Possible problem. What if you have the deluxe version and your cousin has the free version? -Robert At 2010-05-20 01:35 PM, you wrote: Hello, I have a tree In Legacy that I wish to install to another computer for my cousin who is not really into genealogy but she wishes to have the info on her computer. I plan on installing the Legacy free version on her's and I was wondering in I can use the backup from my tree to install it to her Legacy file,will the media be installed also? Thank you for you advise, Brian Lehman Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Can I use my backup to install my data to the free version?
Brian, No. The multimedia backup is a separate zip file and to install on your PC you need to unzip and put the files where you require them. Note that the paths will refer to your PC, so unless the multimedia content on your PC is in C:\ you will have to do it manually and point Legacy to each directory. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England - Original Message - From: blr...@optonline.net To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: 20 May 2010 19:35 Subject: [LegacyUG] Can I use my backup to install my data to the free version? Hello, I have a tree In Legacy that I wish to install to another computer for my cousin who is not really into genealogy but she wishes to have the info on her computer. I plan on installing the Legacy free version on her's and I was wondering in I can use the backup from my tree to install it to her Legacy file,will the media be installed also? Thank you for you advise, Brian Lehman Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Can I use my backup to install my data to the free version?
Hi Brian, according to mee the database is the same for both versions, but you cannot use all the options. So i would go ahead. Remember those 4 things 1) install the free version on the same disk and in the same folder (usually c:\Legacy) as on your PC 2) take with you the ZIP file of the backup of your tree-files, and the ZIP file of your multimedia-files. 3) unzip the multimedia files in exactly the same foilder as your original multimedia files. 4) recreate the tree by restoring the backup Citeren blr...@optonline.net: Hello,I have a tree In Legacy that I wish to install to another computer for my cousin who is not really into genealogy but she wishes to have the info on her computer.I plan on installing the Legacy free version on her's and I was wondering in I can use the backup from my tree to install it to her Legacy file,will the media be installed also?Thank you for you advise,Brian Lehman Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Regards, Alain e-mail : a...@derom.be Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Can I use my backup to install my data to the free version?
On Thu, 20 May 2010 13:55:24 -0500, Robert Carneal USA carnea...@roadrunner.com wrote: Possible problem. What if you have the deluxe version and your cousin has the free version? They won't have access to deluxe features. *** Since the OP did not post in plain text and I did not receive the original post, I'll reply here. If the cousin won't be updating anything and just wants something to look at, perhaps a better solution would be to generate web pages, burn them to a CD, and let the cousin look at those? Or even just a pdf report? Maybe even take a look at GenViewer. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Can I use my backup to install my data to the free version?
Go to Legacy Family Tree home page and click on Help Center then Tips. There is a rather simple outline on accomplishing what you are wanting to do. bgj From: blr...@optonline.net [mailto:blr...@optonline.net] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Can I use my backup to install my data to the free version? Hello, I have a tree In Legacy that I wish to install to another computer for my cousin who is not really into genealogy but she wishes to have the info on her computer. I plan on installing the Legacy free version on her's and I was wondering in I can use the backup from my tree to install it to her Legacy file,will the media be installed also? Thank you for you advise, Brian Lehman Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Can I use my backup to install my data to the free version?
Thanks guys,So I can't install a tree in Legacy free version on another computer from my backup of my deluxe version.What if I install my tree from a Gedcom and copy the media folder(not the backup)to her computer,then direct Legacy to one file in the folder,will Legacy find all the items in the folder and place them where they belong,as it does with MY deluxe version I use?Or,does anybody have a suggestion as to how I can enter my data with all media on her computer without having to link over 300 media files individually?Thank you,Brian Lehman Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Can I use my backup to install my data to the free version?
On 2010/05/21 00:17, blr...@optonline.net wrote: Thanks guys,So I can't install a tree in Legacy free version on another computer from my backup of my deluxe version.What if I install my tree from a Gedcom and copy the media folder(not the backup)to her computer,then direct Legacy to one file in the folder,will Legacy find all the items in the folder and place them where they belong,as it does with MY deluxe version I use?Or,does anybody have a suggestion as to how I can enter my data with all media on her computer without having to link over 300 media files individually?Thank you,Brian Lehman Where, in any of the replies, did anyone say that! Read the replies again. And look at the Tip on the web site. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Can't install/run Legacy on Windows 7 32-bit
To all of you who either can't run Legacy using the UAC setting as Microsoft recommends or are anticipating installing Windows 7 and run into trouble because you can't get it installed, you can do as I just did and set Legacy to run under the last version of Windows that Legacy would run under and set Legacy to run on it; it's a compatibility problem. It's easy to do; find the instructions on Microsoft's Windows 7 site. That way Legacy runs and the UAC security feature is turned on as Microsoft recommends. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Can't install/run Legacy on Windows 7 32-bit
I have Win7 on a 64 bit system. UAC is on and I don't have any trouble with Legacy. I did at first and just ran Check/Repair and Compact file. Now no problems. Joyce GOONS #5057 On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Pat Jones kin-hunte...@cox.net wrote: To all of you who either can't run Legacy using the UAC setting as Microsoft recommends or are anticipating installing Windows 7 and run into trouble because you can't get it installed, you can do as I just did and set Legacy to run under the last version of Windows that Legacy would run under and set Legacy to run on it; it's a compatibility problem. It's easy to do; find the instructions on Microsoft's Windows 7 site. That way Legacy runs and the UAC security feature is turned on as Microsoft recommends. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Adding Column to Descendant Report
Many thanks for that Jenny! Colin. - Original Message - From: Jenny M Benson To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 12:06 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding Column to Descendant Report Colin Liddell wrote I missed this one, I did look there. Which button do you mean, the Events Button? I looked at this but did not think it would do the trick. Not sure what *you* mean by Events button, but whether you go from the main toolbar and select Reports, and choose Descendant Chart or you go from the Descendent view and click on the Print button, you will end up with the main selection screen for Descendent Charts on which there is a large button marked Report Options. That leads you to a screen with 8 tabs, one of which is labelled Include. The only options on that tab actually available to you for a Descendant Chart are Marriage date and place, Include spouse's parents, RINs MRINs and UserID. You select the first one. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
I just checked this and the problem is still there in 7.4.0.39. Below is an extract from a report I just ran 14. Marjorie Best (Alfred John 2, Samuel John 1) was born on 28 Jun 1912 in Exmouth, Devon, England and died in Jul 1988 in Exeter, Devon, England aged 76. Marjorie married someone Henry H Harry Crane Mar Q 1948 in Devon Central, England When this came up before I think it was suggested the problem might be caused by putting the marriage date in before adding the details of the spouse, but I've not checked this out Jack -Original Message- From: CE Wood [mailto:wood...@msn.com] Sent: 20 May 2010 17:27 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' And my response was that this error was reported by Legacy as having been fixed: Legacy 7.4 Revision History: 30 January 2010 Build - Fixed Items - Marriage Screen Phrases - Changed some of the rules for when married someone is used. 12 March 201 Build - Marriage Phrase for reports - Customized wording was reverting back to the default phrase. Fixed. As to Ron's reference to a machine knowing, the program knows when a box is blank, as in searches. A command can be written that removes the word someone whenever a spouse is entered into that box. Whether the letters constitute a new name or an existing one is irrelevant. The box is no longer blank. Carolyn -Original Message- From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:00 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' And my original question was - why, now that I have added the name of the previously unknown parent - do I get 'Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN' when I create a Descendant Narrative report? The word 'someone' is now superfluous. I would expect Legacy to use only the name I have entered. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 20:06 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' Ron Ferguson wrote The point which I was trying to make, obviously not very well, was that these selection processes, where we have the option of adding a new spouse *or* replacing an unknown must remain. Oh heavens, yes! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2868 - Release Date: 05/19/10 11:26:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2879 - Release Date: 05/20/10 07:26:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
To be honest, I can't remember. My usual practice is to enter 'Unknown UNKNOWN' when I know from other evidence that a marriage existed, but I don't know the name of the spouse. If I then determine the name I simply change unknown to the correct name - not really any different to changing a spelling error. And because I have entered 'Unknown UNKNOWN' (which for all the computer knows is a real name) I should never get Fred married someone. However, on reviewing my sources etc. this morning for this particular case (and the superfluous someone is still there in a report newly created this morning, after a complete shutdown overnight) I believe this particular marriage would have been entered WITHOUT an unknown spouse at any stage i.e. the spouse has never been unknown. So the mystery really deepens. I have tried creating the report for Screen/Printer; pdf and rtf. The someone appears in every case. It appears even when the starting person is different - but seemingly only for this couple. I am producing quite a few reports at the moment and haven't found it happening anywhere else. I tried what Jennifer suggested re unlinking the couple and relinking to no effect. I think I'll call it 'just one of those things' and move on. Thanks for trying to help, everyone. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 23:39 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' How did you add the new partner? The method used is critical - see previous posts in this thread. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England mbstx wrote: I have the same problem in a report I just generated. What I don't understand is when there is a blank for the given name or surname, but I know the other, and later I add the new information into the same person's data fields, why would there still be an unknown? Marianne -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk Sent: May 20, 2010 2:41 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' I have a multitude of unknown spouses, which I wish to leave as blank. V7 now seems to be able to do this, although I have found an odd instance where unknown still appears, and have yet to work out why. I hope that I misunderstand when you say There needs to be a string that automatically removes the someone when an actual name is entered. How is a machine expected to know whether or not the unknown should be replaced, it could be a totally different relationship. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England CE Wood wrote: I think she is asking why the program doesn't correct its mistake. As one gathers more information, there will always be spouses discovered. There needs to be a string that automatically removes the someone when an actual name is entered. Correcting one marriage is not the issue. Correcting them ALL is ridiculous. Legacy did say this error had been fixed. I guess not, huh? CE -Original Message- From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' I once had this happen to me. What I finally came up with to fix it was to unlink the couple and then re-link them. I did this using the Marriage List. Jennifer From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:18 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' I have just been reading through a report I created yesterday (after having converted pdf to doc, edited – or so I thought – resaved as pdf, uploaded to my newly created wiki!) and have noticed that I have the ubiquitous Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN. I thought this problem had been resolved some time ago. Originally I had an unknown wife for Fred, but recently added a name. Obviously the someone is a hangover from when her name was unknown. How does one resolve this problem other than having to read through every report word for word once it has been created. At the moment I tend to rely on Word’s spelling error identifier to check for spelling errors, as well as making any additions or deletions that I know I need – I’d prefer not to have to check the wording of every marriage statement just in case the extraneous ‘someone’ is in place. Cheers Jan Legacy User
RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
Glad to see it is not only me! But - I am using 7.4.0.39. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Connie Sheets [mailto:clshee...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, 21 May 2010 2:18 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' Marianne, If you are using 7.0.0.109, that likely explains your problem. This issue was fixed in a subsequent update. While I tend to wait a week or two before downloading an update, there is no reason I can think of to avoid downloading and using the current edition of Legacy (unless you're one of those people who want to stick with Legacy 6.0). You can turn off the newFamilySearch features of 7.4 if you want (which I recommend if you are not LDS), and you are left with the version you have now, except that several bugs like this one have been fixed. Connie --- On Thu, 5/20/10, mbstx msz...@mindspring.com wrote: In the Descendant Narrative report I get Sally married someone Theodore Parker. I also just checked, and there are no unknown spouses in the husband/wife of icon in the various persons data block. I'm running 7.0.0.109 [no I haven't updated to 7.4 because of issues that keep coming up], on Windows XP.���Marianne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Can't install/run Legacy on Windows 7 32-bit
Your message is a little confusing to me. It would be nice to explain in more detail what you mean by: A) you can't get it installed b) set it run under the last version of Windows that Legacy would run under and set Legacy to run on it c) find the instructions on Microsoft's Windows 7 site To my knowledge, installing Legacy onto Win7 has never been a problem. There have been a few isolated cases of getting the UAC properly configured but installing has not been the problem. And I'm not sure if you are talking about running Legacy in a compatibility mode or not; I don't think this has ever been needed nor recommended by Legacy's Tech Support. And finally, it would be nice to give a specific URL about finding something on Microsoft's site. Otherwise, it's an overburdening task and request. Brian in CA -Original Message- From: Pat Jones [mailto:kin-hunte...@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:22 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Can't install/run Legacy on Windows 7 32-bit To all of you who either can't run Legacy using the UAC setting as Microsoft recommends or are anticipating installing Windows 7 and run into trouble because you can't get it installed, you can do as I just did and set Legacy to run under the last version of Windows that Legacy would run under and set Legacy to run on it; it's a compatibility problem. It's easy to do; find the instructions on Microsoft's Windows 7 site. That way Legacy runs and the UAC security feature is turned on as Microsoft recommends. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Missing RINs
Why would it matter? I don't use RIN for anything. What am I missing out on? -- Marty On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.comwrote: On Wed, 19 May 2010 00:27:00 -0500, Robert Carneal USA carnea...@roadrunner.com wrote: Does anyone know of a way to get Legacy to generate a report listing the RINs that are empty? Say I have: ... 4 5 6 8 9 10 ... Then the report tells me 7 is not used? Robert (and others): If you have Reuse abandoned RINs turned on, then tblXI contains a list of the missing RINs. You can run the following query in Access, LTools, OOBase, etc.: SELECT tblXI.DeletedID FROM tblXI ORDER BY tblXI.DeletedID If you do not have Reuse abandoned RINs turned on, you can turn it on temporarily. This will cause tblXI to be rebuilt. Then you can run the above SELECT query. When you are done you can turn off Reuse abandoned RINs. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
