RE: [LegacyUG] UAC - Users Account Control
Perhaps Jerry assumed, as I would, from the wording in the CustomizeLaunch tab that Legacy sets its own defaults. But the Help file explains that we are talking about Operating System defaults, i.e. Windows file type settings. So perhaps Jerry needs to check his Open with defaults on .log files. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com] Sent: 25 January 2012 07:36 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] UAC - Users Account Control On 2012/01/25 01:54, Jerry wrote: 3 - Alternate Text Editor to use with Legacy (Leave blank for default text editor) I kept expecting Legacy to automatically find Notepad, so I left that blank. But it did not find it and kept giving me errors. So, when I found Notepad (and Notepad ++) and put those in there, it worked both times. It is not working if I leave it blank (maybe Legacy is expecting it to be in a different location - not sure). It doesn't find Notepad. It uses Default Programs and what has been defined as the default program for opening .TXT files. If that hadn't been set up properly, then it couldn't open the log file. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports
I'm trying to find where to turn off the long descriptions of timelines in reports with chronological views, but I can't find it :( Where is it? I want to show who was the king, or prime minister etc, but I don't want the entire life story of the king in the chronological report. -- Bjørn K Nilssen - b...@bknilssen.no - 3D and panoramas Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Set birth locations
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:34:40 +1100, Tony Rolfe geneal...@gillandtony.com wrote: Is there any way to tag all descendants of a specific individual and then, if their birth and christening locations are both blank, set the birth location to Australia? Probably not without using SQL. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools/Custom Programming) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] untag non-blood relatives
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 13:48:37 +1100, Tony Rolfe geneal...@gillandtony.com wrote: I want to concentrate on my blood-line first, so is there a way to untag everyone who is not some sort of blood relation? You might want to have a look at this thread... http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/msg16791.html -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools/Custom Programming) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports
På Wed, 25 Jan 2012 13:18:18 +0100, skrev Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk: On 25/01/2012 09:45, Bjørn K Nilssen wrote: I'm trying to find where to turn off the long descriptions of timelines in reports with chronological views, but I can't find it:( Where is it? I want to show who was the king, or prime minister etc, but I don't want the entire life story of the king in the chronological report. Have you looked at the Timeline (ViewTimeslines...) concerned to see whether what you are seeing on your Report *is* actually the Long Description and not a more detailed Short Description than you want? Yes, they are definitely the long versions. I get both the short version (by default in Dark Orange) in the second column and the long versoin in the third column (black) I haven't used Timelines much, but it looks as though Long Descriptions are not included by default, although some of the Short Descriptions are longish. I think Chronology Reports should only be showing the Short Descrption. Well, mine shows both - always. If the Short Description is longer than you want, you could copy the Short Desc into the Long Desc field and just have the little bit you want in the Short field. I know that I can workaround it by making new customized timeline files, but with all the settings available in Legacy there surely must be somewhere to set if it should use only short descriptions or both? -- Bjørn K Nilssen - b...@bknilssen.no - 3D and panoramas Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports
On 25/01/2012 13:01, Bjørn K Nilssen wrote: I haven't used Timelines much, but it looks as though Long Descriptions are not included by default, although some of the Short Descriptions are longish. I think Chronology Reports should only be showing the Short Descrption. Well, mine shows both - always. As I said, I haven't used Timelines much, but I've just looked again and see that quite a few do have a Long Description and that Long Descriptions are being included on the Chronology View and when I do a Chronology Report According to the Help files Next, enter the Short Description. This is the description that you will see on the list in the Timeline Editor and is what is printed on Timeline and Chronology reports... Next, enter the Long Description. This is only included on Timeline Event reports. so I don't know why we are seeing Long Descriptions on a Chronology Report. Perhaps Legacy Support will comment, please. (If I interpret the Help file correctly to mean that we shouldn't be seeing the Long Description, that would account for there being no button to switch it off!) -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports
På Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:10:20 +0100, skrev Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com: There is no setting I could find to pick what is included for a timeline in the Chronology pages, as you say the short description is in event name column and the long description is in the descriptive column where places and notes appear. Which timeline are you using? So then it is not possible to choose what to show in the reports? I've used various timelines, but they all behave the same. One timeline with Norwegian kings from 865-present has many long descriptions with more than 1200 characters, and then the reports get pretty longish... Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 25/01/2012 4:45 AM, Bjørn K Nilssen wrote: I'm trying to find where to turn off the long descriptions of timelines in reports with chronological views, but I can't find it :( Where is it? I want to show who was the king, or prime minister etc, but I don't want the entire life story of the king in the chronological report. -- Bjørn K Nilssen - b...@bknilssen.no - 3D and panoramas Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports
If you wish to see this option added, submit a suggestion report to us. Click on the Suggest a New Feature link in the Support section of the Legacy Home tab or on our website www.LegacyFamilyTree.com Help Center Make a Suggestion. Both links go to the same form. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree 2012/1/25 Bjørn K Nilssen b...@bknilssen.no: snip So then it is not possible to choose what to show in the reports? I've used various timelines, but they all behave the same. One timeline with Norwegian kings from 865-present has many long descriptions with more than 1200 characters, and then the reports get pretty longish... Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports
On 2012/01/25 16:23, Bjørn K Nilssen wrote: So then it is not possible to choose what to show in the reports? I've used various timelines, but they all behave the same. One timeline with Norwegian kings from 865-present has many long descriptions with more than 1200 characters, and then the reports get pretty longish... So! Copy and rename a file, call it something else. Edit it to your own requirements and then use the renamed version. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports
På Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:36:43 +0100, skrev Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com: If you wish to see this option added, submit a suggestion report to us. Click on the Suggest a New Feature link in the Support section of the Legacy Home tab or on our website www.LegacyFamilyTree.com Help Center Make a Suggestion. Both links go to the same form. I have made a suggestion. To be frank I'm afraid I don't expect too much.. So far all my formal suggestions have been met with a thumbs down :( Although it would be nice to have this timeline choice I would very much prefer that a few minutes was spent on fixing the mailinglist server instead. It would take me a lot less time to make new, custom short timeline files than what I have to spend on fixing/maintaining this mailing list mess. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree 2012/1/25 Bjørn K Nilssen b...@bknilssen.no: snip So then it is not possible to choose what to show in the reports? I've used various timelines, but they all behave the same. One timeline with Norwegian kings from 865-present has many long descriptions with more than 1200 characters, and then the reports get pretty longish... -- Bjørn K Nilssen - b...@bknilssen.no - 3D and panoramas Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports
We don't know that. Many suggestions are filed away for the next version and not implemented immediately The programmers never give us any feedback about which ones they plan on implementing - we just have to wait and see. Some of the more minor suggestions are implemented in updates. I'm not sure what mess you're referring to but the mailing list works fine for me in gmail. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree 2012/1/25 Bjørn K Nilssen b...@bknilssen.no: snip I have made a suggestion. To be frank I'm afraid I don't expect too much.. So far all my formal suggestions have been met with a thumbs down :( Although it would be nice to have this timeline choice I would very much prefer that a few minutes was spent on fixing the mailinglist server instead. It would take me a lot less time to make new, custom short timeline files than what I have to spend on fixing/maintaining this mailing list mess. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports
Bjørn, and I use Outlook and have also never had a problem with the list and I have been a Beta Tester for over a decade now. I can sort threads using the Subject, From or Received field. Don't need anything else. I don't recall you ever saying which email client you used either. Please enlighten us what you use? Kind Regards Mark Lang -Original Message- From: Bjørn K Nilssen [mailto:b...@bknilssen.no] Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2012 6:11 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports Have you really forgotten about this mess already? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports
Yep you're right, he uses Opera. Just looked at his msg headers then. Kind Regards Mark Lang -Original Message- From: Dennis M. Kowallek [mailto:kowal...@iglou.com] Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2012 9:03 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 08:41:14 +1030, Mark Lang markl...@adam.com.au wrote: and I use Outlook and have also never had a problem with the list and I have been a Beta Tester for over a decade now. I can sort threads using the Subject, From or Received field. Don't need anything else. I use Agent and threads are not sorted correctly. I believe Bj�rn uses Opera. See... http://www.mail- archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/msg00024.html Threads are not handled properly since Millenia went to the new mail server in 2009. Maybe you don't need anything else, but that doesn't mean threads are sorted as they should be. Bj�rn is correct in saying there is a problem. A problem that has been around for several years. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools/Custom Programming) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4764 - Release Date: 01/24/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports
På Wed, 25 Jan 2012 23:11:14 +0100, skrev Mark Lang markl...@adam.com.au: Bjørn, and I use Outlook and have also never had a problem with the list and I have been a Beta Tester for over a decade now. I can sort threads using the Subject, From or Received field. Don't need anything else. I don't recall you ever saying which email client you used either. Please enlighten us what you use? I'm currently using Opera, but that is really irrelevant, because the problem is that this list is breaking the rules - and refuses to look into fixing it. It doesn't help how many subscribers have no problems as long as there are some that have - and those problems are not caused by email clients, but some wrong settings in the mailinglist server. Take a look at these links to see how List-Id should be used: http://www.w3.org/Mail/subject-tagging http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2919.html http://al.mail-list.com/s/al/m/als/l/7615-RFC-2919-List-Id-Header and the RFC: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2919.txt I previously used Pegasus for many years, and there I had to set up a filter for each mailing list manually. But Operas mail has a lot of nice features that I'd hate to lose. An alternative would be to set up a new mail account only for this list, and read it online, losing all the nice functionality of Opera. But I find it quite silly that subscribers need to use such workarounds because there is little will to fix the errors where they originate? I have been using mailing lists for 21 years now, and currently subscribe to 44 lists + Legacy. None of them are changing their List-Id - ever!!! The sole purpose of an ID is to make it possible to identify something, be it a person, car or mailing-list or whatever. If it changes value in every mail, like it does on this list, it has no purpose whatsoever. Opera uses automatic filtering of mailing lists, trusting that list-owners are using the fields correctly - which this list is unfortunately not doing. I can filter on whatever I want to as well, but as Opera reads the List-Id, which changes in every mail here, it will interpret (quite correctly) each new mail as a new mailng list, with one single mail in it. As this list is pretty active I have to do a lot of cleanup and delete mailing lists all the time - once for every single mail. The paradox is that this list is using both List-Id and the X-Mailing-List field (non-standard, but quite often used (and handled great by Opera)). The X-Mailing-List is set up correctly, as : X-Mailing-List: legacyusergr...@mail.legacyusers.com while the List-Id is not (changes in every mail). Look at section 3.16 on this page: http://people.dsv.su.se/~jpalme/ietf/mail-headers/mail-headers.html Sorry for being so *loud*, but this mess is really starting to get on my nerves.. Kind Regards Mark Lang -Original Message- From: Bjørn K Nilssen [mailto:b...@bknilssen.no] Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2012 6:11 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports Have you really forgotten about this mess already? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Bjørn K Nilssen - b...@bknilssen.no - 3D and panoramas Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports
På Wed, 25 Jan 2012 23:32:32 +0100, skrev Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com: On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 08:41:14 +1030, Mark Lang markl...@adam.com.au wrote: and I use Outlook and have also never had a problem with the list and I have been a Beta Tester for over a decade now. I can sort threads using the Subject, From or Received field. Don't need anything else. I use Agent and threads are not sorted correctly. I believe Bjørn uses Opera. Yes, I'm using Opera. Agent? I used to use Agent ages ago, but that was only for reading newsgroups/usenet. Is it the same program that has evolved into handling email too? -- Bjørn K Nilssen - b...@bknilssen.no - 3D and panoramas Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports
Group, I should clarify my previous post. What Outlook is doing is grouping, without having to set any specific sort critera, messages by subject header and date. It is not specifically keeping track of which messages are replies to which other specific messages, and indenting them in the list. So, I guess maybe this list doesn't support true threading, but I find grouping by original post, and then all replies in chronological order, sufficient threading for my requirements. Paul -Original Message- From: Paul Gray [mailto:grayp...@telus.net] Sent: January-25-12 4:02 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports Mark, Outlook (2007 is what I am using) also does have a true 'thread' view, and it works for this list. From the View Menu,-- Arrange By -- Conversation. This provides a true 'thread view' and I have no problem with Legacy items. I can't provide an attachment to actually show what it looks like, but this thread has a header (which is the same title as the first message that Bjorn sent) and then all of the messages neatly sorted by date/time. I can't comment on the proper usage of the specific fields that Bjorn mentions, but it certainly seems like the mailing list does provide data to allow a mail client (at least Outlook) to properly track threads. Paul Gray -Original Message- From: Mark Lang [mailto:markl...@adam.com.au] Sent: January-25-12 3:11 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports Bjørn, and I use Outlook and have also never had a problem with the list and I have been a Beta Tester for over a decade now. I can sort threads using the Subject, From or Received field. Don't need anything else. I don't recall you ever saying which email client you used either. Please enlighten us what you use? Kind Regards Mark Lang -Original Message- From: Bjørn K Nilssen [mailto:b...@bknilssen.no] Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2012 6:11 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports Have you really forgotten about this mess already? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports
Thanks Paul, never used that feature before Kind Regards Mark Lang -Original Message- From: Paul Gray [mailto:grayp...@telus.net] Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2012 9:32 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports Mark, Outlook (2007 is what I am using) also does have a true 'thread' view, and it works for this list. From the View Menu,-- Arrange By -- Conversation. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports
På Thu, 26 Jan 2012 00:24:19 +0100, skrev Paul Gray grayp...@telus.net: Group, I should clarify my previous post. What Outlook is doing is grouping, without having to set any specific sort critera, messages by subject header and date. It is not specifically keeping track of which messages are replies to which other specific messages, and indenting them in the list. So, I guess maybe this list doesn't support true threading, but I find grouping by original post, and then all replies in chronological order, sufficient threading for my requirements. But why settle for less than real threading? It's just a matter of changing a few settings in the listserver... I've ben focusing on the List-Id errors, which is what causes me the most grief. But when/if they fix that it's probably easy to fix the threading at the same time. A real threading rely on unique Message-Id. WHen I write a mail to the list i may have this: Message-Id: op.v8nwwjk5oxyrqf@bk2 When it appears on the list it has changed to: Message-Id: -424906331_103468...@mail.legacyusers.com which is wrong!! It should not change at all. For a real threading it should use In-Reply-To: the unique message-Id here In the above case it should have been: In-Reply-To: op.v8nwwjk5oxyrqf@bk2 You just replied to your own post. Your first mail had Message-Id: -424884225_103469...@mail.legacyusers.com Your second mail should've had a In-Reply-To field referencing that ID, but it didn't. Your second mail had this field: In-Reply-To: -424884678_103469...@mail.legacyusers.com Which, as you can see, is not the same number/ID as you original Message-Id. This causes threading to, at best, be a simple grouping and sorting by date/time, which is not very useful if you want to really follow a thread.. Paul -Original Message- From: Paul Gray [mailto:grayp...@telus.net] Sent: January-25-12 4:02 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports Mark, Outlook (2007 is what I am using) also does have a true 'thread' view, and it works for this list. From the View Menu,-- Arrange By -- Conversation. This provides a true 'thread view' and I have no problem with Legacy items. I can't provide an attachment to actually show what it looks like, but this thread has a header (which is the same title as the first message that Bjorn sent) and then all of the messages neatly sorted by date/time. I can't comment on the proper usage of the specific fields that Bjorn mentions, but it certainly seems like the mailing list does provide data to allow a mail client (at least Outlook) to properly track threads. Paul Gray -Original Message- From: Mark Lang [mailto:markl...@adam.com.au] Sent: January-25-12 3:11 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports Bjørn, and I use Outlook and have also never had a problem with the list and I have been a Beta Tester for over a decade now. I can sort threads using the Subject, From or Received field. Don't need anything else. I don't recall you ever saying which email client you used either. Please enlighten us what you use? Kind Regards Mark Lang -Original Message- From: Bjørn K Nilssen [mailto:b...@bknilssen.no] Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2012 6:11 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports Have you really forgotten about this mess already? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Bjørn K Nilssen - b...@bknilssen.no - 3D and panoramas Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:
[LegacyUG] RE: incorrect threading
Changed the subject heading. Bjørn, I agree with your comments. Even though I don't use threading doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to for others. Whether you have any luck mind you, is another matter. Kind Regards Mark Lang -Original Message- From: Bjørn K Nilssen [mailto:b...@bknilssen.no] Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2012 10:13 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports A real threading rely on unique Message-Id. WHen I write a mail to the list i may have this: Message-Id: op.v8nwwjk5oxyrqf@bk2 When it appears on the list it has changed to: Message-Id: -424906331_103468...@mail.legacyusers.com which is wrong!! It should not change at all. For a real threading it should use In-Reply-To: the unique message-Id here In the above case it should have been: In-Reply-To: op.v8nwwjk5oxyrqf@bk2 You just replied to your own post. Your first mail had Message-Id: -424884225_103469...@mail.legacyusers.com Your second mail should've had a In-Reply-To field referencing that ID, but it didn't. Your second mail had this field: In-Reply-To: -424884678_103469...@mail.legacyusers.com Which, as you can see, is not the same number/ID as you original Message-Id. This causes threading to, at best, be a simple grouping and sorting by date/time, which is not very useful if you want to really follow a thread.. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports
I have no doubt that there are others having issues with the list, but you are the only person complaining so vehemently. The majority of folks (myself included) are using mail readers that have no problems with the Legacy list messages. Outlook has absolutely no problems sorting Legacy messages into appropriate threads. I also have no problems with message threads using the mail program on my iPhone and iPad. Ron Bernier Sent from my iPad On Jan 25, 2012, at 5:54 PM, Bjørn K Nilssen b...@bknilssen.no wrote: På Wed, 25 Jan 2012 23:11:14 +0100, skrev Mark Lang markl...@adam.com.au: Bjørn, and I use Outlook and have also never had a problem with the list and I have been a Beta Tester for over a decade now. I can sort threads using the Subject, From or Received field. Don't need anything else. I don't recall you ever saying which email client you used either. Please enlighten us what you use? I'm currently using Opera, but that is really irrelevant, because the problem is that this list is breaking the rules - and refuses to look into fixing it. It doesn't help how many subscribers have no problems as long as there are some that have - and those problems are not caused by email clients, but some wrong settings in the mailinglist server. Take a look at these links to see how List-Id should be used: http://www.w3.org/Mail/subject-tagging http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2919.html http://al.mail-list.com/s/al/m/als/l/7615-RFC-2919-List-Id-Header and the RFC: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2919.txt I previously used Pegasus for many years, and there I had to set up a filter for each mailing list manually. But Operas mail has a lot of nice features that I'd hate to lose. An alternative would be to set up a new mail account only for this list, and read it online, losing all the nice functionality of Opera. But I find it quite silly that subscribers need to use such workarounds because there is little will to fix the errors where they originate? I have been using mailing lists for 21 years now, and currently subscribe to 44 lists + Legacy. None of them are changing their List-Id - ever!!! The sole purpose of an ID is to make it possible to identify something, be it a person, car or mailing-list or whatever. If it changes value in every mail, like it does on this list, it has no purpose whatsoever. Opera uses automatic filtering of mailing lists, trusting that list-owners are using the fields correctly - which this list is unfortunately not doing. I can filter on whatever I want to as well, but as Opera reads the List-Id, which changes in every mail here, it will interpret (quite correctly) each new mail as a new mailng list, with one single mail in it. As this list is pretty active I have to do a lot of cleanup and delete mailing lists all the time - once for every single mail. The paradox is that this list is using both List-Id and the X-Mailing-List field (non-standard, but quite often used (and handled great by Opera)). The X-Mailing-List is set up correctly, as : X-Mailing-List: legacyusergr...@mail.legacyusers.com while the List-Id is not (changes in every mail). Look at section 3.16 on this page: http://people.dsv.su.se/~jpalme/ietf/mail-headers/mail-headers.html Sorry for being so *loud*, but this mess is really starting to get on my nerves.. Kind Regards Mark Lang -Original Message- From: Bjørn K Nilssen [mailto:b...@bknilssen.no] Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2012 6:11 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports Have you really forgotten about this mess already? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Bjørn K Nilssen - b...@bknilssen.no - 3D and panoramas Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:
Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 00:01:21 +0100, Bjørn K Nilssen b...@bknilssen.no wrote: Agent? I used to use Agent ages ago, but that was only for reading newsgroups/usenet. Is it the same program that has evolved into handling email too? Yes. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools/Custom Programming) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 18:29:53 -0500, Ron Bernier ronaldbern...@bernfrin.org wrote: Outlook has absolutely no problems sorting Legacy messages into appropriate threads. I doubt if Outlook is sorting it properly. Yes, it is probably sorting it under the appropriate Subject, but it is not sorting it under the message it is a reply to (because it can't). Just look at the mail archive... http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/msg18045.html Everything is flattened under the original post. That is definitive proof that messages are not being threaded properly. Sure, most mail readers can thread by Subject, but they do that as a last resort. That doesn't make it right (it might be good enough for you). Now look at the way it used to be... http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/msg43676.html See how each reply is threaded under what it is replying to? *** See http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/msg00024.html for my original complaint in 2009. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools/Custom Programming) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] LDS sites
Hello Can someone again tell me how to get into the familysearch.org site without being a member of the LDS's Thanks Carole Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] RE: incorrect threading
Technically the subject heading should've been changed when the topic changed and it wasn't. I realised it too late but thought I'd do the right thing and change it anyway. Kind Regards Mark Lang -Original Message- From: julia _ [mailto:aga...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2012 11:56 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] RE: incorrect threading Aha! Now I know what you guys are talking about. I'm using Hotmail and I, like Bjorn, had to stay on top of reading/deleting my messages because the Hotmail settings were to read msgs individually. Now that I've changed the Read setting to conversations, it lumps them by subject. However, this particular message from Mark did not get included in that thread--because he changed the subject--Although I'm sure he replied to that thread. So now, I understand the problem... Julia From: markl...@adam.com.au To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] RE: incorrect threading Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:23:53 +1030 Changed the subject heading. Bj�rn, I agree with your comments. Even though I don't use threading doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to for others. Whether you have any luck mind you, is another matter. Kind Regards Mark Lang Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4765 - Release Date: 01/25/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Set birth locations
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 03:59:05 -0800 Dennis M . Kowallek On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:34:40 +1100, Tony Rolfe geneal...@gillandtony.com wrote: Is there any way to tag all descendants of a specific individual and then, if their birth and christening locations are both blank, set the birth location to Australia? Probably not without using SQL. I don't suppose there is anyone clever enough to show me the SQL? Ideally, in two separate bits - one to set the tags and the other to do the search and replace? Would it be possible using the raw SQL feature of LTools? Thanks Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] untag non-blood relatives
I've looked at that thread, but don't understand how it will help me. Firstly, I can't find the set special user ID's in the latest version of LTools (I have 1.3.21.25 registered) and that feature seems to have disappeared. Secondly, I don't know what a User ID is, let alone a special one. Finally, If once I can find the tool and run it and get my special user id's set to to something, how will this let me untag those records? Sorry if I'm being a bit (a lot) thick, but this just isn't getting through to me Apologies from a somewhat dumb Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Legacy group in Cleveland, Ohio
Hello, I would be interested in finding other genealogists who would like to meet once or twice a month for a Legacy workshop? I'm good with Legacy, I would call myself intermediate level. If others are interested in forming a group on the west side of Cleveland please contact me at rfalzini @ yahoo.com Thanks Rich Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
