RE: [LegacyUG] Mendeley; Zotero? Using with Legacy?

2012-02-27 Thread Ken Veitch
Hi Mary,



Yes that’s correct.  Sorry I used the abbreviated form.



Worth a try – I like how it links to your Legacy data files.



Ken



From: M. Brenzel [mailto:brenze...@roadrunner.com]
Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012 11:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Mendeley; Zotero? Using with Legacy?



Do you mean Genota 4 and Genota Forms 2, not Genforms?



Mary



From: Ken Veitch [mailto:mistyblu...@bigpond.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 2:48 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Mendeley; Zotero? Using with Legacy?



I have been using Genota 4 and Genforms 2 as two research tools for a while 
now.  Both programs will link to your Legacy data files which is very handy.



Genforms 2 allows you to enter data from your Birth, Death  Marriage records 
as well as many other types of official sources in a structured database that 
can be searched.  Very handy to see how often the same person (e.g. witnesses) 
are noted on statutory documents.



Genota 4 allows you to enter your research notes for a specific person or even 
a subject.  You can also link repository details where sources are held, link 
to scanned documents that are held on your computer and also establish links 
other members of your Legacy family tree.



Recommend you take a look – trial versions are available.



Ken





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RE: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy

2012-02-27 Thread John Clifford
John and Sherry - thank you very much for your help.

I understand the limitations because I have used Pocket Genealogist for some
years on HTC Touch and Jam PDAs

John

-Original Message-
From: hwedhlor [mailto:hwedh...@cox.net]
Sent: 27 February 2012 06:01
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy

Hi John,

Several years ago my mobile device of choice was a Sony Clie on which I ran
GedStar Pro, by GHCS Software, and I liked it GedStar Pro much.  When the
Clie was discontinued I changed over to an iPhone and iPad, and asked Doug
Gordon, the author of GedStar Pro, if he had any intention of porting the
program over to the Apple iOS devices.  Doug replied that he would have to
invest in some expensive Mac equipment to do so, and that he was intending
to retire after 40+ years writing software (this was in 2008), so I went
looking for alternative software.  I settled on Families, by Telgen
Software, and was fortunate to be involved in some testing of that software
both pre-release and subsequent to its introduction.  I have been very happy
with Families, and with Telgen's responsiveness to input from their user
base.
I highly recommend Families, which syncs with Legacy and not only displays
your data and photos, but will allow input via your mobile device if you
choose to do that, after which the new data can be synced back to Legacy.
That capability can be very handy if you find yourself in the field without
your laptop.

Understand however that Families is not Legacy, and does not provide the
entire range of features that Legacy provides, which is not surprising
considering that Families is designed to run on a much lest robust platform
than is Legacy Family Tree.

All the best,

John

John Zimmerman
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On 2/26/2012 3:28 AM, John Clifford wrote:
 I am picking up an old thread here.

 Can anyone advise me about the relative merits of Families and Gedstar
 for use on Android phones as a Legacy add-on?

 I have the impression that Millennia used to promote Gedstar but now
 Families (there is still a page on the website about Gedstar but no
 links to it as far as I can see)

 On the other hand this thread contains a few messages from Sherry
 saying she likes Gedstar.

 John







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Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing

2012-02-27 Thread sarge1933
Sounds like a good idea - sure wish I had studied that feature before adding 
the thousands of source/detail documents over the years.  Whoever opined that 
'...when all else fails, read the instructions...' is correct. :-). Might be a 
good winter project to convert?

Bob

 Shirley Richardson shirleyr...@clear.net.nz wrote:
 Wow, that's a good idea (or reason to use ID#).


 Shirley
 Mt Maunganui
 NZ

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   Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:12 AM
   Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing


   For my w cents' worth I ID everything I find on an individual by the Legacy 
 assigned ID#. Doesn't make any difference where it's a photo, tombstone, 
 marriage, death, whatever type document or where I put it. A simple global 
 SEARCH of your computer will find ALL information assigned to that person, no 
 matter what, or where, you stored it, even if you forgot you even had it!

   Works for me

   -- Original Message --

   Wasn't the MRIN system devised before we had a computer to do all the heavy 
 lifting?

   --
   Regards,
   Mike Fry
   Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and version 7.5.0.154

2012-02-27 Thread sarge1933
I have not as yet encountered any issues with having downloaded and installed V 
7.5.0.154.  Fingers crossed - just in case! :-:

Bob

 Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 Bobby,

 I have, as yet, found any problems with V 7.5.0.154, but I hope (and expect)
 that you realise you will lose everything you change after you have updated.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 -Original Message-
 From: Bobby Johnson
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 6:06 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and
 version 7.5.0.154

 Eric,
 Thanks!  I could not see a reason that would not work but I wasn't sure.  I
 am going to update to .154 and try it for a while.  If I see problems in
 reports or some of the other problems reported earlier then I CAN go back.

 Bobby

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Wiggers [mailto:e...@ericwiggers.com]
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:30 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and
 version 7.5.0.154

 Bobby:

 I reverted back to version .142 (still there...) and restored successfully
 from user files created with that same version .142.

 Eric

 - Original Message -
 From: Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:13 PM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and
 version 7.5.0.154


 Alan and Mike,

 If I can reinstall .142 then why would I not be able to restore a backup
 made with version .142?  I would not
 want to use GEDCOM because it would not handle the source writer sources
 properly.

 Bobby

 -Original Message-
 From: Alan Pereira [mailto:alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk]
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:06 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and
 version 7.5.0.154

 Would it be possible to export it as a Legacy gedcom, delete .154, install
 .142 then import the gedcom?
 Alan Pereira




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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7.5.0.154

2012-02-27 Thread Brian/Support
I cannot confirm this. When I did a check repair the file I had open was
reopened without any prompt for a new file.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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On 24/02/2012 12:31 PM, Alan Pereira wrote:
 Check Repair on completion now asks if you want to open a different family 
 file in the New window?
 No!

 Not a bug but will get very annoying.

 Alan Pereira



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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7.5.0.154

2012-02-27 Thread Sherry/Support
I see this happen on rare occasion and it's not something readily repeatable.

For those of you who experience it, I wouldn't worry about it.  It's
really hard for the programmers to troubleshoot something like this -
it could be something as simple as the number of clicks or ??


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Brian/Support
br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:
 I cannot confirm this. When I did a check repair the file I had open was
 reopened without any prompt for a new file.

 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 We are changing the world of genealogy!
 When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
 Thanks.

 On 24/02/2012 12:31 PM, Alan Pereira wrote:
 Check Repair on completion now asks if you want to open a different family 
 file in the New window?
 No!

 Not a bug but will get very annoying.

 Alan Pereira



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Re: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy

2012-02-27 Thread Sherry/Support
Sources are available in Families, at least in the Android version
(I'm sure it would be in the iOS version as well). Tap on the
individual to bring up that person's page, tap on the Event and there
you'll find a source for that individual's event.

There is no Master Source List, if that's what you're looking for.
It would be handy - I'd suggest going to their website
http://www.telgen.co.uk/families/ and make a suggestion in the User
Forum

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Debbie Freeman dfs...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 From what little I could see the only problem with the Families App is that
 it does not seem to have a source screen shoot available. How does someone
 who uses the app check to see what sources are already in the app's family
 file if they are at a archives or library?

 Curious,
 Debbie Freeman



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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7.5.0.154

2012-02-27 Thread Ron Ferguson
Robert,

I can well imagine that would cause problems, especially where only one click 
is required. Consider, if only one click is required to take you to a 
particular page on which the default is to highlight a button which closes the 
page, then if one double clicks the page will open and then close!

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Robert E. Carneal
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:36 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7.5.0.154

I -might- have a clue!  Sherry's comment gave me the idea!


My mouse can be set to where one push sends two clicks to the computer.  
Could it be that some of us have the feature, and when we double click, we are 
sending *FOUR* clicks to legacy? So, pushing it twice plus one more by accident 
sends SIX clicks to Legacy. I wonder if that is a good idea? I am grasping 
straws there.


I might change that- at the time I thought it was a good idea.

Thank you.

Robert
Genealogy without documentation is mythology! Always SOURCE your work.



On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com 
wrote:

  I see this happen on rare occasion and it's not something readily repeatable.

  For those of you who experience it, I wouldn't worry about it.  It's
  really hard for the programmers to troubleshoot something like this -
  it could be something as simple as the number of clicks or ??


  Sincerely,
  Sherry
  Technical Support
  Legacy Family Tree



  On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Brian/Support
  br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:
   I cannot confirm this. When I did a check repair the file I had open was
   reopened without any prompt for a new file.
  
   Brian
   Customer Support
   Millennia Corporation
   br...@legacyfamilytree.com
   http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
  
   We are changing the world of genealogy!
   When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
   Thanks.
  
   On 24/02/2012 12:31 PM, Alan Pereira wrote:
   Check Repair on completion now asks if you want to open a different family 
file in the New window?
   No!
  
   Not a bug but will get very annoying.




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Re: [LegacyUG] To Do List Help

2012-02-27 Thread Paula Ryburn
Jenny was kind enough to send me hers and I modified it to suit my needs.
HOWEVER, I would like to one day soon investigate the Research Guidance Tab -
I've heard it will generate appropriate to-do items for an Individual.
 --Paula in Texas
Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams






From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sat, February 25, 2012 5:22:46 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] To Do List Help

On 25/02/2012 21:16, aubur...@aol.com wrote:
 Hey, all. I'm still relatively new at this, and I'm trying to come up
 with a really good checklist system for each person on my tree, so at a
 glance, I can tell what major info I have and am lacking.

I do this by means of a spreadsheet.  I have everyone listed and columns
for Birth, Baptism, Marriages, Death, Burial and Censuses.  I just check
the appropriate boxes as I enter the information.

--
Jenny M Benson


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Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing

2012-02-27 Thread Paula Ryburn
Sally, I almost gasped but found myself chuckling.  I can see where you're
coming from on that.  However, I tend to research by family, working with a unit
to find siblings, parents, etc. and move backward through my line.  I like to
have all the relevant documents together.  Also, I use binders instead of
folders.  And I use 6 colors instead of 4... possibly someone is gasping at
that.  In fact, my daughter and I were considering moving to 8 colors, because I
have gathered enough on her daddy's father's line to go to 2 binders... of
course, she would like the new color to be pink! 


Do you keep all your census images together?  How are they sorted?  Or do you
not print them out?  Thx.
 --Paula in Texas
Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams






From: salude...@aol.com salude...@aol.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sat, February 25, 2012 8:06:29 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing

I put ALL birth certs, newspaper birth announcements, etc. in one huge
folder.  Likewise with death certs, marriages, etc.  I know some of  you will
gasp...just like my genealogy buddy does.  LOL
But I know  EXACTLY where to look instantly.  Everything is named in
alphabetical order  and then date order.  I consider it as if it were a
repository
at a  library.  Legacy does the work of pulling the files from the
repository.

Why make life difficult trying to decide where a file goes when Legacy does
it for you?

Sally Miller Hindley

In a message dated 2/25/2012  7:48:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,
geneal...@gillandtony.com writes:
I've  started storing scanned or downloaded images etc. in folders named
MRIN His  name and Her name.  I get a lot of folders, but it seems
consistent  with the recommendation for paper filing given by Legacy.

For those who  use a similar system, either electronic or paper-based,
how do you handle  people who don't have marriages?

I've been putting children's birth  information in their parent's folder
and then creating a folder for the  child when they marry.  If a child
leaves home and appears on the  census, for example, still unmarried and
not with their parents, I put that  data in the parent's folder, with a
name which suggests the child.  E.g.  1881 Census (M0123).jpg for the
main family's census image, but  1881 Census - Mary Ann (I02345).jpg
for the child's individual  entry.

My problem is what to do when the child marries.  Should I  move the
child's information into the new MRIN folder, even though a lot of  the
info doesn't relate to that marriage?  Should I have Individual  folders
RIN Individual Name for stuff specific to that child?  That  wuld mean
a huge number of folders.

What about second marriages, or  what about a previous marriage being
discovered?

There must be an  obvious, recommended way to handle this.

Any advice would be  appreciated.

thanks

Tony




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Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing

2012-02-27 Thread Paula Ryburn
Adult/grown children who remain unmarried but have moved out of the family home
go where?  Thx.
 --Paula in Texas
Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams






From: gen_quest gen_qu...@yahoo.ca
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sun, February 26, 2012 8:55:59 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing


Tony,

I also use the MRIN filing system and have set up online folders for each
marriage.   Following the advice from the Legacy user who originally devised
this system, I renumber MRINs according to my 4 ancestral lines as follows:


My maternal grandfather is MRIN 1000-1999   

My maternal grandmother is MRIN 2000-2999
My maternal grandfather is MRIN 3000-3999
My paternal grandmother is MRIN 4000-4999


Census records are filed under the MRIN of the head of the household.
Unmarried children are filed under the MRIN of their parents
When a child marries, I move the birth certificate into the MRIN folder for the
marriage and add the marriage certificate and any census records or other
information during the time of the marriage.

If a child marries for a second time, the marriage has a different MRIN number
under which I include the marriage certificate, census and other info during the
time of this marriage and finally the death certificates.

The documents are numbered  e.g. MRIN-1, -2, -3 etc.


For each line I have a binder(s) for paper documents, filed under the MRIN
number.  If I do not have any documents for a marriage then there is no divider
for that number in the binder.  At one time I printed out the census records but
no longer do that to cut back on the size of the binders.

Hope this helps.

Christine


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Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing

2012-02-27 Thread Paula Ryburn
Tony,
For children who marry, I leave the pre-marriage documents behind the
parents' FGR (I don't use folders).  Of course, at the moment, the only people I
have documents for about their childhood that I *might* consider moving with the
child are my grandparents, so I know exactly where to look for them.  I mean, if
you are talking about a not-so-well-known ancestor or distant relative, you
might not be able to pull together their whole life as easily from TWO places,
so you might consider moving the childhood documents into the new marriage
folder.

I don't do much research on those people not in my lines, and they all married
(or at least partnered) to produce the next generation... on down to me.  So, I
haven't run into the unmarried grown child situation... I mean, I don't have any
specific documents for them that need to be filed.

I have a few 2nd marriages, and so far they have been my male ancestors
re-marrying, and I think in every case I descend through the first marriage. 
So...  I just print a second FGR for the 2nd marriage and keep it behind the
first (same surname makes that approach easy).  Additionally, I haven't yet
collected much on the 2nd marriages since they are not in my line.. and I
haven't had the urge yet to look for 1/2 cousins anywhere.

If I descended from the 2nd marriage I might do it the same way, since they're
male / same surname.

If it was the female remarrying, I still think I would file the extra marriage
(depending on from which one I descended) behind the important marriage
and put them both under the important surname.  At least until I had a
significant amount of data on the extra marriage, accessing it a lot or
getting cumbersome.  Then I guess I would be forced to put the extra marriage
in its own surname folder...  again, I use binders with surname tabs.
 --Paula in Texas
Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams






From: Tony Rolfe geneal...@gillandtony.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sat, February 25, 2012 6:47:33 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing

I've started storing scanned or downloaded images etc. in folders named
MRIN His name and Her name.  I get a lot of folders, but it seems
consistent with the recommendation for paper filing given by Legacy.

For those who use a similar system, either electronic or paper-based,
how do you handle people who don't have marriages?

I've been putting children's birth information in their parent's folder
and then creating a folder for the child when they marry.  If a child
leaves home and appears on the census, for example, still unmarried and
not with their parents, I put that data in the parent's folder, with a
name which suggests the child.  E.g.  1881 Census (M0123).jpg for the
main family's census image, but 1881 Census - Mary Ann (I02345).jpg
for the child's individual entry.

My problem is what to do when the child marries.  Should I move the
child's information into the new MRIN folder, even though a lot of the
info doesn't relate to that marriage?  Should I have Individual folders
RIN Individual Name for stuff specific to that child?  That wuld mean
a huge number of folders.

What about second marriages, or what about a previous marriage being
discovered?

There must be an obvious, recommended way to handle this.

Any advice would be appreciated.

thanks

Tony


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[LegacyUG] Burial notes list

2012-02-27 Thread Hal Antonson
Is there an easy way to make a list of individuals that have burial notes?

The field would be
RIN
Surname, givename
Date of burial
Place of burial
Burial notes.

Thank you.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Burial notes list

2012-02-27 Thread Sherry/Support
Click on the Search icon and then select the Detailed Search tab:

Look for whom?Individual
WHere to look  Notes - burial
How to lookNot equal to
What to look forjust leave blank


Click on Create List and in the Search List, click on Print to print the list.

The report will be printed in the order that it's in the Search list -
RIN, Given or Surname.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Hal Antonson hala...@msn.com wrote:
 Is there an easy way to make a list of individuals that have burial notes?

 The field would be
 RIN
 Surname, givename
 Date of burial
 Place of burial
 Burial notes.

 Thank you.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Burial notes list

2012-02-27 Thread Michele Lewis
I have got to say, the search feature is one of the best things about Legacy.  
You can pretty much search for anything you want :)

michele

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 4:22 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial notes list

Click on the Search icon and then select the Detailed Search tab:

Look for whom?Individual
WHere to look  Notes - burial
How to lookNot equal to
What to look forjust leave blank


Click on Create List and in the Search List, click on Print to print the list.

The report will be printed in the order that it's in the Search list - RIN, 
Given or Surname.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Hal Antonson hala...@msn.com wrote:
 Is there an easy way to make a list of individuals that have burial notes?

 The field would be
 RIN
 Surname, givename
 Date of burial
 Place of burial
 Burial notes.

 Thank you.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Short survey: Location vs. Address

2012-02-27 Thread Paula Ryburn
Marg, I do like having separate addresses, and you can print them in most
narrative/book reports (there's a report option); however, if you choose to do
that, it typically prints the entire address in parens after the
Location---and if you are storing the entire address, then it is very
redundant.  For example, I liked having born in Detroit, Wayne, Michigan (St.
Jude's Hospital) -- but to use the address for anything else, you really need
the full address.  Then it would look like born in Detroit, Wayne, Michigan
(St. Jude's Hospital, 100 Main Street, Detroit, Michigan 48213) just a bit
too much.  So, here I am still pondering! ;)  If I set it up in the Location, I
could lose the street address (but I'm not worried about that).. it would
look like born in St. Jude's Hospital, Detroit, Wayne, Michigan.  Possibly
okay.  Need still to run through some search scenarios to decide.  Thanks for
your feedback.
 --Paula in Texas

PS--Though Legacy says it is wrong to put the address at the front of the
location, there are many on the list that do it that way; hence, my short
survey.  Personally, I don't think Legacy implemented the Address functionality
completely.  It's a good idea, but not really finished.  Another consideration
that weighs heavy for US customers is whether or not they are adhering strictly
to the 4-part Location; customers outside the US are used to not using Locations
the proper way because their Locations don't fit the 4-part standard.
 (another somewhat incompletely implemented item, imho... or rather, something
that wasn't necessarily upgraded for world-wide usage)






From: Marg Strong tiny...@yahoo.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sat, February 25, 2012 3:54:49 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Short survey: Location vs. Address


I can answer some of this but haven't used it much because I just read about the
address feature. Before I used to add it in front of the Location and recently
read that was wrong and messed up reports, so they offered the address feature.
The one problem I see with it is that I can't see the address at a glance. I
have to put it in an event for that.
Just a quick reflection from a very new learner!


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Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the family info

2012-02-27 Thread Paula Ryburn
That certainly is nicely done, though I would have more contrast between
background and font color.  I'm sure others on this list will be chiming in on
how feasible it is to expect that sort of output from Legacy.
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





From: Marg Strong tiny...@yahoo.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sat, February 25, 2012 4:05:44 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the family
info


I haven't gone down this tree very far because of time limitations, but it is
something like the way I want to put my family history together, though with my
own modifications. Just in case anyone is interested; it might not appeal to
you:

http://www.waughfamily.ca/Waugh/RobertWaugh.htm

I hope it's ok to send links. If not, please warn me and i won't do it again.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Restoring Multimedia Backup Files

2012-02-27 Thread Paula Ryburn
Brian,  Oops - I usually am better about including links.
First, in the program Help this link does not work:

Backing Up and Restoring Family Files
Everything You Need to Know
About Backup and File Restoration
by James P. Terry
See the article on the Legacy website at:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/helpMediaBackups.asp
5-510


But if I copy  paste that into my browser  then mid-way down the
screen (without scrolling) you find:

Restoring Multimedia Backup Files
* Windows 7, Windows Vista and Windows XP all have a built Extraction 
Wizard.
Just RIGHT click on a backup file (has a .ZIP extension) and click on Extract
All on the pop-up menu.
The Legacy program does not (yet) have a utility that will restore (unzip) a
multimedia backup. As a result, multimedia backup file cannot be restored in
Legacy the same way that a backed family file can.  However, if you have Windows
7, Windows Vista or Windows XP you only need to insert your backup disk or
memory stick into the your pc and use the Extraction Wizard that comes with
Windows 7, Windows Vista and Windows XP.
1. Browse to the backed up multimedia file and click on it with the RIGHT mouse
button and then select Extract All from the popup menu.
2. The Extraction window will open.
   * Windows 7 and Windows Vista: Type  C:\  as the folder where the 
 pictures will
be extracted to and then click Extract. Follow the prompts.

   * Windows XP: Click the Next button and in the next screen type  C:\ as 
 the
directory where the pictures will be extracted to and then click
the Next button. Follow the prompts.

My suggestion is to not lead with Just right click...  I had the folder on my
E: drive the first time; then I thought I remembered what had been discussed on
the LUG list but no... I got a Legacy folder added to Pictures; then one added
to Legacy, etc... until I came back and read the whole thing.

Imho, the most important part is Type C:\ as the folder... ;)
Thanks for following up on this one! --Paula




From: Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sat, February 25, 2012 4:10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Restoring Multimedia Backup Files

Paula,

What does the first bullet say? What is the Help Topic Number, you will
find that at the very bottom of the help page. It will help me find the
particular Help topic.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!
When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.

On 24/02/2012 12:35 PM, Paula Ryburn wrote:
 Okay, I think you should remove that first bullet in the Help on this topic.
It
 would be less frustrating to know at the outset that I need to do more than
 right click.  I know you will all say you should've read the whole thing but
 the first bullet is misleading.  Just a suggestion.  Thanks,
   --Paula in Texas


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Re: [LegacyUG] Quick question on GEO database

2012-02-27 Thread Paula Ryburn
Thanks, John, but I'm pretty sure I just downloaded the files in the past few
months.
 --Paula





From: John B. Lisle leg...@tqsi.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sat, February 25, 2012 4:41:44 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quick question on GEO database

Paula,

You might wish to download again and re-build the GeoCode database as I believe
that a new set of files were created several months ago.

john.


At 02:07 PM 2/25/2012, Ron Taylor wrote:

The C:\Legacy\Geo folder can be copied to another computer without re-building
it from the internet downloads.  Once in place on the hard drive, then go to
OptionsCustomizeOtherGeo Location Database and click Database Maintenance.
Then click Set and navigate to where you put the GeoDB.gdb file.  That will
connect the file to Legacy and should work.
Ron Taylor

--- On Sat, 2/25/12, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:



From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net

Subject: [LegacyUG] Quick question on GEO database

To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Date: Saturday, February 25, 2012, 11:24 AM


I did not  migrate my Legacy application/folders from my old PC, so the Geo
folder is not on my new PC.  Can I just copy that whole folder over (via flash
drive), or do I need to reinstall the Geo database from the website?

Thanks.



--Paula in Texas

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Re: [LegacyUG] two windows, same file

2012-02-27 Thread Paula Ryburn
Mike, thanks for that excellent explanation!
 --Paula





From: Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sun, February 26, 2012 2:54:44 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] two windows, same file

On 2012/02/26 05:30, Robert E. Carneal wrote:

 I am *trying* to open a family file, but split the window. I am trying to:
 1 Open Collins, paste some notes.
 2 Split the window and go to the other screen.
 3 I try to enter data on the other screen, but it refuses to let me because
   I have the notes open.  Any way to leave the notes open and enter data?

This is mainly a Windows thing: the difference between Modal and Modeless
dialogs. A Modal dialog, which is what the vast majority of all dialogs on all
products, are, effectively blocks the main window from which it is launched. On
the other hand, a Modeless dialog effectively runs in parallel with the main
window, allowing you to switch back and forth and work with either of them.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the family info

2012-02-27 Thread Ron Ferguson
Paula, Mary,

Legacy is not geared up to create a web page of that type, that is to say that 
its database construction is such that it cannot be done.

That site was written by the author using Microsoft Frontpage website creation 
software which used to compete with Dreamweaver. Both are considered to be old 
technology, albeit that they were market leaders at one time. Frontpage is no 
longer available.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Paula Ryburn
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:19 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the 
family info

That certainly is nicely done, though I would have more contrast between 
background and font color.  I'm sure others on this list will be chiming in on 
how feasible it is to expect that sort of output from Legacy.

--Paula in Texas
Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman 
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field 
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle 
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche 
Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams




From: Marg Strong tiny...@yahoo.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sat, February 25, 2012 4:05:44 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the family 
info


I haven't gone down this tree very far because of time limitations, but it is 
something like the way I want to put my family history together, though with my 
own modifications. Just in case anyone is interested; it might not appeal to 
you:

http://www.waughfamily.ca/Waugh/RobertWaugh.htm

I hope it's ok to send links. If not, please warn me and i won't do it again.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the family info

2012-02-27 Thread Sherry/Support
Definitely more contrast! A lot of us have vision problems which
require good contrast.

If I had found that site through a google search of my surnames, I
would have immediately backed out of it because it's too hard to read
and, if I could find your contact info, send you an email to that
fact!

Check out www.WebAim.org for information on web accessibility for
those with vision and other disabilities.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Paula Ryburn
paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 That certainly is nicely done, though I would have more contrast between
 background and font color.  I'm sure others on this list will be chiming in
 on how feasible it is to expect that sort of output from Legacy.

 --Paula in Texas



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Re: [LegacyUG] Print maternal lineage

2012-02-27 Thread Paula Ryburn
Ron and others,
I did just re-submit a suggestion on this item.  Wish I had copied it for
posterity, because there is no way to look up a suggestion.  But here's what I
remember including:

Lineage Report  (there's a vertical report and a horizontal chart)
1.  Allow selection of two Individuals
2.  Utilize Relationship Calculator logic to find how the two Individuals are
related - save that lineage
3.  Allow selection of lineage (if the Individuals are related in more than one
way)
4.  Print siblings (if checked) and spouse for each Individual *regardless of
gender*
5.  Add option to print siblings for spouses  (check box)

I think there was also a small bug about not recognizing date prefix
modifications in the Customize section.

Although the horizontal chart might encounter some page layout issues, this
shouldn't be a brand new program if they use the already established
Relationship Calculator logic.  Well, that's what *I* think at least. ;)
 --Paula





From: Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sun, February 26, 2012 9:11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print maternal lineage


It may require a lot of programming to have both paternal and maternal lineages
at the same time on the Lineage report but it could be fairly easy to provide an
option to make the report follow the paternal or maternal line.  That made me
think of yet another possibility.  Could the lineage report show details of the
lineage with siblings between any individual and a given ancestor regardless of
whether it tracked the male or female link in each generation.  The Relationship
Calculator can do that now without the siblings.  The Lineage report parameters
would ask for the RIN of the ancestor and the chart would like much like the
current paternal lineage report except it would follow the maternal links where
necessary as well as the paternal links depending on the lineage and include
siblings if that option box is checked.
Ron  Taylor

--- On Sun, 2/26/12, Barbara bschwart...@twcny.rr.com wrote:


From: Barbara bschwart...@twcny.rr.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print maternal lineage
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Sunday, February 26, 2012, 4:09 AM



Did anyone else attempt to answer the original question about printing names in
the maternal line?  If you did, I missed it - I've been away for three days on
business.   I'm resending trusting someone can help us.
Barb
- Original Message -
From: Paula Ryburn
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 1:47   PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print maternal   lineage


Not that I know of.  I had looked at the Lineage report when I was   working 
on
my DAR application -- my lineage goes through my mom and her mom   before 
going
all male.


However, I am now waiting excitedly to see if someone answers you in the 
affirmative! ;)


I had submitted a suggestion on a flexible lineage report that run   between 
any
two people (rather than just starting at one person and going up   their male
ancestor line).
I did not however specifically ask for the siblings of the females.   Or I
guess in the context of my suggestion, it would be to show the siblings   of
both partners right?  Hmm, that would be a bit   harder.
 --Paula in Texas
Researching: Adair Baker Beasley   Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine   Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon   Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes
Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell   McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts
Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer   Sullivan Weller Williams







 From: Barbara   bschwart...@twcny.rr.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, February 24, 2012 4:28:39   AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Print   maternal lineage


Hi folks,

Is it possible to print a lineage chart showing   both the paternal and 
maternal
information regarding brothers and   sisters?   Currently when I want to 
print a
lineage report all that   shows is the paternal brothers and sisters.  I would
like to have the   report show the maternal too.

Thanks for your help.
Barb


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Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and version 7.5.0.154

2012-02-27 Thread Paula Ryburn
Me neither.  And the only problems I saw reported here were the fonts being
blanked out and a report printing a lot of jumbled data which someone from
support said could be caused by the missing fonts issue.  Granted, we don't
necessarily see all the problems reported here - we are only the LUG list. ;)
 --Paula





From: sarge1...@cox.net sarge1...@cox.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Cc: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
Sent: Mon, February 27, 2012 9:00:15 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and version
7.5.0.154

I have not as yet encountered any issues with having downloaded and installed V
7.5.0.154.  Fingers crossed - just in case! :-:

Bob

 Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 Bobby,

 I have, as yet, found any problems with V 7.5.0.154, but I hope (and expect)
 that you realise you will lose everything you change after you have updated.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/



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Re: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy

2012-02-27 Thread Paula Ryburn
With technology changes, I'm sure we could stand to re-visit this topic every 6
months or so. ;)  Thanks,
 --Paula




From: John Clifford leg...@johnclifford.me.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sun, February 26, 2012 4:28:10 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy

I am picking up an old thread here.

Can anyone advise me about the relative merits of Families and Gedstar for
use on Android phones as a Legacy add-on?

I have the impression that Millennia used to promote Gedstar but now
Families (there is still a page on the website about Gedstar but no links to
it as far as I can see)

On the other hand this thread contains a few messages from Sherry saying she
likes Gedstar.

John







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[LegacyUG] Dates in CSV file

2012-02-27 Thread M. Brenzel
I have created a CSV file from the Name List containing Surname/Given Name,
Living Indicator, Birth Date, and Death Date.  When I look at the file in
Notepad, the dates look good.  But when I open it in Excel, some of the
dates are formatted differently than most of the others.

For example, the date 1 Sep 1913 in Legacy looks the same in Notepad but in
Excel, it is displayed as 1-Sep-13.  When I look at the table in Access
(tblIR), the dates look different than those that are correct.

Does anyone have an idea why the dates are messed up for some people but
not others?  And is there an easy way to fix them?

Thanks,
Mary








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Re: [LegacyUG] Dates in CSV file

2012-02-27 Thread Jerry
What version of Excel are you using?  The newest versions will alow you to 
format dates with 4 digits for the year.  Highlight or select the entire 
column, go to Format cells, select the number tab, select Date and then select 
the specific format you want.  I hope this helps.  Jerry

M. Brenzel brenze...@roadrunner.com wrote:

I have created a CSV file from the Name List containing Surname/Given Name,
Living Indicator, Birth Date, and Death Date.  When I look at the file in
Notepad, the dates look good.  But when I open it in Excel, some of the
dates are formatted differently than most of the others.

For example, the date 1 Sep 1913 in Legacy looks the same in Notepad but in
Excel, it is displayed as 1-Sep-13.  When I look at the table in Access
(tblIR), the dates look different than those that are correct.

Does anyone have an idea why the dates are messed up for some people but
not others?  And is there an easy way to fix them?

Thanks,
Mary








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Re: [LegacyUG] Print maternal lineage

2012-02-27 Thread Ron Taylor
Yes...that is essentially what I was describing.  The maternal lineage report 
would be very simple to adapt from the currently available paternal lineage 
report.  Let's see what the progammers come up with for the third option of 
tracing a given line regardless of gender changes.
Ron Taylor

--- On Mon, 2/27/12, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print maternal lineage
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Monday, February 27, 2012, 4:47 PM

Ron and others,I did just re-submit a suggestion on this item.  Wish I had 
copied it for posterity, because there is no way to look up a suggestion.  But 
here's what I remember including:
Lineage Report  (there's a vertical report and a horizontal chart)1.  Allow 
selection of two Individuals2.  Utilize Relationship Calculator logic to find 
how the two Individuals are related - save that lineage3.  Allow selection of 
lineage (if the Individuals are related in more than one way)4.  Print siblings 
(if checked) and spouse for each Individual *regardless of gender*5.  Add 
option to print siblings for spouses  (check box)
I think there was also a small bug about not recognizing date prefix 
modifications in the Customize section.
Although the horizontal chart might encounter some page layout issues, this 
shouldn't be a brand new program if they use the already established 
Relationship Calculator logic.  Well, that's what *I* think at least. ;)
 --Paula 

From: Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sun, February 26, 2012 9:11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print maternal lineage


It may require a lot of programming to have both paternal and maternal lineages 
at the same time on the Lineage report but it could be fairly easy to provide 
an option to make the report follow the paternal or maternal line.  That made 
me think of yet another possibility.  Could the lineage report show details of 
the lineage with siblings between any individual and a given ancestor 
regardless of whether it tracked the male or female link in each generation.  
The Relationship Calculator can do that now without the siblings.  The Lineage 
report parameters would ask for the RIN of the ancestor and the chart would 
like much like the current paternal lineage report except it would follow the 
maternal links where necessary as well as the paternal links depending on the 
lineage and include siblings if that option box is checked.
Ron
 Taylor

--- On Sun, 2/26/12, Barbara bschwart...@twcny.rr.com wrote:

From: Barbara bschwart...@twcny.rr.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print maternal lineage
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Sunday, February 26, 2012, 4:09 AM




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Did anyone else attempt to answer the original
question about printing names in the maternal line?  If you did, I missed
it - I've been away for three days on business.   I'm
resending trusting someone can help us.
Barb 

  - Original Message -
  From:
  Paula Ryburn
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

  Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 1:47
  PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print maternal
  lineage




  Not that I know of.  I had looked at the Lineage report when I was
  working on my DAR application -- my lineage goes through my mom and her mom
  before going all male.


  However, I am now waiting excitedly to see if someone answers you in the
  affirmative! ;)


  I had submitted a suggestion on a flexible lineage report that run
  between any two people (rather than just starting at one person and going up
  their male ancestor line).
  I did not however specifically ask for the siblings of the females.
  Or I guess in the context of my suggestion, it would be to show the siblings
  of both partners right?  Hmm, that would be a bit
  harder.
 --Paula in Texas
Researching: Adair Baker Beasley
  Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine
  Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon
  Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell
  McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer
  Sullivan Weller Williams






  From: Barbara
  bschwart...@twcny.rr.com
To:
  LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, February 24, 2012 4:28:39
  AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Print
  maternal lineage




  Hi folks,
   
  Is it possible to print a lineage chart showing
  both the paternal and maternal information regarding brothers and
  sisters?   Currently when I want to print a lineage report all that
  shows is the paternal brothers and sisters.  I would like to have the
  report show the maternal too.
   
  Thanks for your help.
  Barb



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Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the family info

2012-02-27 Thread Marg Strong
Actually, I was looking at it more from the viewpoint of printing out a book 
than as a website presentation. I liked the interspersing of images with text 
since I think the average person not into family history might find that more 
interesting. I would make changes, but it added to my ideas for presenting a 
book. I'm not sure how legacy prints out the media files with reports because 
I am far from learning that as yet.





 From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the 
family info

Definitely more contrast! A lot of us have vision problems which
require good contrast.

If I had found that site through a google search of my surnames, I
would have immediately backed out of it because it's too hard to read
and, if I could find your contact info, send you an email to that
fact!

Check out www.WebAim.org for information on web accessibility for
those with vision and other disabilities.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Paula Ryburn
paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 That certainly is nicely done, though I would have more contrast between
 background and font color.  I'm sure others on this list will be chiming in
 on how feasible it is to expect that sort of output from Legacy.

 --Paula in Texas



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Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures / downloads

2012-02-27 Thread Paula Ryburn
Took liberty of modifying the subject line.

I don't think the Legacy folder has a Download folder.  However, Windows 7 does.
 Is that the folder you're using?  I can't imagine there is a limit on that
folder either, but it helps to know how you're doing your downloads.

(And I had noticed that Heritage Quest downloads all go to that Windows 7
folder.  My plan was to copy them to the relevant surname folders pending
being attached in Legacy, but that's just the way I have things set up on my
computer.  When attaching I move my census images into Legacy's Pictures
folder.  I use the standard file set up as Legacy originally set it up, except I
store backups on an external drive.)
 --Paula





From: Donna Newell djnewel...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Mon, February 27, 2012 11:03:25 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Pictures


Does anyone know if there is a max number of pictures you can download(like
census documents) to Legacy?  All of a sudden mine has stopped and will not let
me download any more records.  Do I empty the Download folder or is there a
limit that I can download and I have reached it?  I am following Geoff’s webinar
on census records and attaching all of the records that I have to each
individual.  It would be nice to have a repeat button to do some of this.  On
the Webinar he did not indicate that there was a limit, so I have been going
blissfully along attaching records to individuals, at least until tonight, and
all of a sudden nothing.  It isn’t there.  I go into the master file and
something is there, a place holder, blank.  Some have any ideas?

Donna in Ardmore, OK



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Re: [LegacyUG] Print maternal lineage

2012-02-27 Thread Paula Ryburn
I would find a completely maternal lineage report just as unfulfilling as a
completely paternal one.  That's why I suggested the ability to enter two
individuals.  I suppose the report could continue to have the ability to enter
just one individual and then request either a paternal or a maternal lineage
that goes as far back as possible.
 --Paula





From: Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Mon, February 27, 2012 9:00:05 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print maternal lineage


Yes...that is essentially what I was describing.  The maternal lineage report
would be very simple to adapt from the currently available paternal lineage
report.  Let's see what the progammers come up with for the third option of
tracing a given line regardless of gender changes.
Ron Taylor

--- On Mon, 2/27/12, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print maternal lineage
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Monday, February 27, 2012, 4:47 PM


Ron and others,
I did just re-submit a suggestion on this item.  Wish I had copied it for
posterity, because there is no way to look up a suggestion.  But here's what I
remember including:


Lineage Report  (there's a vertical report and a horizontal chart)
1.  Allow selection of two Individuals
2.  Utilize Relationship Calculator logic  to find how the two Individuals are
related - save that lineage
3.  Allow selection of lineage (if the Individuals are related in more than one
way)
4.  Print siblings (if checked) and spouse for each Individual *regardless of
gender*
5.  Add option to print siblings for spouses  (check box)


I think there was also a small bug about not recognizing date prefix
modifications in the Customize section.


Although the horizontal chart might encounter some page layout issues, this
shouldn't be a brand new program if they use the already established
Relationship Calculator logic.  Well, that's what *I* think at least. ;)
 --Paula






From: Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sun, February 26, 2012 9:11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print maternal lineage


It may require a lot of programming to have both paternal and maternal lineages
at the same time on the Lineage report but it could be fairly easy to provide 
an
option to make the report follow the paternal or maternal line.  That made me
think of yet another possibility.  Could the lineage report show details of the
lineage with siblings between any individual and a given ancestor regardless of
whether it tracked the male or female link in each generation.  The 
Relationship
Calculator can do that now without the siblings.  The Lineage report parameters
would ask for the RIN of the ancestor and the chart would like much like the
current paternal lineage report except it would follow the maternal links where
necessary as well as the paternal links depending on the lineage and include
siblings if that option box is checked.
Ron  Taylor

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Re: [LegacyUG] Dates in CSV file

2012-02-27 Thread Hal Antonson
Mary,
Highlight the Excel column then format as custom 'd mmm ' (without the 
quotes). From the Home menu, click right adjust so they line up on right. 
Things should look good. If you need to do arithmetic on the dates, remember 
that dates before 1900 are really just text instead of numbers. If you need to 
work with those early ones, look at installing Xdate as an Excel addin.
  - Original Message -
  From: M. Brenzelmailto:brenze...@roadrunner.com
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:14 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Dates in CSV file


  I have created a CSV file from the Name List containing Surname/Given Name,
  Living Indicator, Birth Date, and Death Date.  When I look at the file in
  Notepad, the dates look good.  But when I open it in Excel, some of the
  dates are formatted differently than most of the others.

  For example, the date 1 Sep 1913 in Legacy looks the same in Notepad but in
  Excel, it is displayed as 1-Sep-13.  When I look at the table in Access
  (tblIR), the dates look different than those that are correct.

  Does anyone have an idea why the dates are messed up for some people but
  not others?  And is there an easy way to fix them?

  Thanks,
  Mary








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RE: [LegacyUG] Removing children listed twice

2012-02-27 Thread Jan Roberts
Yes, but unfortunately if you have events for the duplicate person the events 
are all printed twice and THEN it brings the Duplicate Line feature into play.  
i.e. the Line isn't duplicated, but the first duplicate person in each line IS. 
 I would like to see where the name and events are included once, and then only 
the name (and perhaps vital dates, but certainly not events) repeated 
subsequently.

Cheers
Jan

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Saturday, 25 February 2012 03:11
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Removing children listed twice

There is an option on the reports to not repeat duplicate lines. Using
that should eliminate duplication of your and your sister's descendants.
You will still be shown in the second family, only to show where your
line fits, then there will be a note indicating this is a duplicate line
with a reference back to the first listing.

Brian
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On 23/02/2012 9:31 AM, Elizabeth wrote:
 Thanks for all the advice.  In fact, as the only problem is when
 printing descendant reports (because I, my sister and our descendants
 are then duplicated), I have now unlinked us both from the second
 marriage, but put a note under our stepfather's name to the effect
 that he adopted us and put a similar note on each of our marriage
 records to explain why we married under a different surname from that
 we were born with.

 That seems to sort it.





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RE: [LegacyUG] suggestion I submitted

2012-02-27 Thread Jan Roberts
Me too!  I have never been able to see why it is seen as a problem that a 
source might only refer to a particular item of information.  The details of 
the source clearly show what bit it refers to.  If there is any doubt I might 
add a note such as provided the second name of xyz or provided exact date of 
birth rather than just year or something appropriate.

Cheers
Jan

-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2012 04:06
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] suggestion I submitted

On 20/02/2012 13:49, Michele Lewis wrote:
 I just submitted this suggestion.  I hope other would want this too.

 “I think you should make it where the date of birth and the place of
 birth are separate fields when it comes to sourcing.

 Death certificates often give the place of birth for the deceased's
 parents but not the date.

 The census records also give a place of birth for the parents but not
 the date.

 If you use one of the above as a source for the date of birth/place of
 birth, it appears as though the source named both.”


In an ideal world it would be good, but as I include all the details
and/or the full text in my Sources it is possible to see exactly what is
being Sourced by any particular citation.

It's quite possible that I will know, from a variety of Sources that
someone was born on ddmmm in Anytown, County, Someland but some of
the Sources I cite might only give the date, or might only give the
year, or might only give the County or might only give the Country.  By
referring to the wording of each ciation and any Citation Text I have
included I can see precisely what information came from where.

--
Jenny M Benson





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RE: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the family info

2012-02-27 Thread Jan Roberts
If you’d like to have a look at a ‘book’ I’ve generate from Legacy go to 
http://www.branchesandtwigs.wikispace.com
Scroll down the left hand side until you get to a link to Descendants of Thomas 
SULLIVAN. Click on that, then click on the link to Descendants of Thomas 
SULLIVAN.pdf.  That will take you to a report I generated in Legacy.  I quite 
like the pdf output from Legacy  - I guess the only drawbacks are that all of 
the images are in a line down the right hand side, and some of the images are 
too small to read the text.
Legacy doesn’t print other ‘media’ files attached to your report, for example 
pdf files.  You would have to print and add them separately for your book. I 
haven’t used the publishing centre in Legacy, but I believe you can add 
place-holder pages which keep page numbering intact and you can replace the 
‘blank pages with your pdf files.  Another drawback is that in the case of 
‘blended’ families, which I like to include because I am more a family 
historian than a true genealogist, people who are included in two (or dare I 
say more) marriages have all of their information printed twice (or more) even 
if you have selected to not include duplicate lines.  As I don’t have a pdf 
creator program I can’t edit my Legacy generated pdf’s and remove the surplus 
entries.  I tried using rtf format, but found that removing great chunks of 
text messed up pagination and image placement among other things so I have 
opted for pdf and leave the duplicate info.  Because I publish as a wiki rather 
than an actual book I am able to add extra photos, pdfs etc. to my wiki site.

Cheers
Jan
From: Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:46
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the 
family info

Actually, I was looking at it more from the viewpoint of printing out a book 
than as a website presentation. I liked the interspersing of images with text 
since I think the average person not into family history might find that more 
interesting. I would make changes, but it added to my ideas for presenting a 
book. I'm not sure how legacy prints out the media files with reports because 
I am far from learning that as yet.






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RE: [LegacyUG] Using Word for descendant report

2012-02-27 Thread Jan Roberts
I reported it a couple of years ago - didn't notice it hadn't been fixed, 
because I changed from using rtf output to pdf.

Cheers
Jan
-Original Message-
From: Mark Lang [mailto:markl...@adam.com.au]
Sent: Monday, 20 February 2012 11:27
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Using Word for descendant report

Elizabeth,

Upon further examination, I too have found similar results. I will be reporting 
this problem.


Kind Regards
Mark Lang
Beta Tester


 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth [mailto:roobee...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, 20 February 2012 5:20 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Using Word for descendant report

 I have exported a descendant report, via rtf, to Word but am puzzled
 by various additions to the text which appear to have inserted
 themselves. ?For example, one event should read: He was resident at
 Gilbert Street, Paddington, London in 1841 but following 1841 is
 \up51\up0, with the last five digits in superscript.







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Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the family info

2012-02-27 Thread Les Williamson
I have mentioned my website before and don’t want to appear to be promoting it 
again, however there is a lot of tips and help in it that is worth absorbing. 
Here is a link to a PDF on the site 
http://www.familytreebooksandcharts.com/products/family-tree-books/example-content/
 The book was almost all produced using the “Legacy reports”. Some seasoned 
users will spot some of the “Legacy” deficiencies, and in fairness to Legacy, 
if I spent more time mastering all of it’s features, I could probably overcome 
many of them.

If anybody wants to learn more (and is prepared to spend a little money buying 
PDF software) I am more than happy to give you full instructions (not lessons 
on PDFs).

Les
Bonnie Scotland


From: Marg Strong
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:46 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the 
family info

Actually, I was looking at it more from the viewpoint of printing out a book 
than as a website presentation. I liked the interspersing of images with text 
since I think the average person not into family history might find that more 
interesting. I would make changes, but it added to my ideas for presenting a 
book. I'm not sure how legacy prints out the media files with reports because 
I am far from learning that as yet.




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  From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the 
family info


  Definitely more contrast! A lot of us have vision problems which
  require good contrast.

  If I had found that site through a google search of my surnames, I
  would have immediately backed out of it because it's too hard to read
  and, if I could find your contact info, send you an email to that
  fact!

  Check out www.WebAim.org for information on web accessibility for
  those with vision and other disabilities.


  Sincerely,
  Sherry
  Technical Support
  Legacy Family Tree



  On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Paula Ryburn
  paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
   That certainly is nicely done, though I would have more contrast between
   background and font color.  I'm sure others on this list will be chiming in
   on how feasible it is to expect that sort of output from Legacy.
  
   --Paula in Texas



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