Re: [LegacyUG] Can this be done I never tried before

2014-05-18 Thread Cathy Pinner
Hi Rich,
You can get a list of all people who have been modified in the last 90
days. This will only include work you've done on locations and sources
if these are attached to one of those people modified.

You go to Search  Find  Detailed Search

Who: Individual
Where: Modified Date
How: after
What: enter the date

Create new list.

In Legacy 7.5, in Family View, the modified date for the highlighted
person is shown on the bottom status bar on the right end. Click on it
and you can see the added date etc for the couple.

In Legacy 8 this information is seen by hovering over or clicking the
screen in the bottom right corner where a coloured box shows up when you
mouse over the corner.

Cathy

 Richard Falzini mailto:rfalz...@yahoo.com
 Sunday, 18 May 2014 12:14 AM
 Hello group,
Can I make a change or go to a certain setting with
 in my 7.5 version and compose a list of all changes made to my
 genealogy within the last 90 days?

 Thanks
 Rich
 Genealogy Of Castelnuovo di Porto, Italy
 http://www.castelnuovodiportogenealogy.com/


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Re: [LegacyUG] Disproved ancestors

2014-05-18 Thread Cathy Pinner
It's fine to use the Name Field for a short easily seen note but I'd be putting 
the note in privacy brackets (double square brackets for those who haven't 
discovered them yet - they can be used in any field) so that it doesn't mess up 
publishing. These people may not be published but you can do this for real 
family members as well when you have trouble remembering which Mary is which.

Cathy

Ron Ferguson wrote:
 Jay,

 Clearly you do not publish your work, so whatever takes your fancy is OK.

 However I would not like the job of sorting it all out should you
 change your mind.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 Sent from my Xperiaâ„¢ smartphone

 J.M. \Jay\ Ingalls  jay_inga...@pipeline.com wrote:

 Pat,

 I often put a note in the given name field, such as Mary-Not Pat's
 direct ancestor. Saves a lot of time, does not require reading the notes.

 I have some I need to work on, Like John-May be wrong wife, etc.

 Fortunately, we are no
t limited to 12 characters, or whatever it was
 in the first genealogy programs, for the given name field!

 Jay
 =
 On 5/17/2014 7:26 AM, Michele/Support wrote:

 Pat,

 If I have done a lot of work on them I would simply unlink them and
 leave them in my file.  If they were in the same location as your
 ancestors then they still might end up being connected in some way.Â

 Â

 Michele

 Technical Support

 mich...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com

 www.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 Â

 *From:*Pat Hickin [mailto:pph...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, May 16, 2014 6:51 PM
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Disproved ancestors

 Â

 I've got a couple of what were once thought to be ancestral lines and
 have since been disproved. Â I don't want to delete them entirely and
 I'm wondering how other L
egacy users handle the matter. Â I could put
 them in a separate file or leave them where they are and just
 Â unlink them so that they're no longer connected.

 Â

 I'd appreciate your thoughts/ideas. Â Thanks,

 Â

 Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] Disproved ancestors

2014-05-18 Thread Ron Ferguson
Sorry Cathy, but on this one I do no agree

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Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:

It's fine to use the Name Field for a short easily seen note but I'd be 
putting the note in privacy brackets (double square brackets for those who 
haven't discovered them yet - they can be used in any field) so that it 
doesn't mess up publishing. These people may not be published but you can do 
this for real family members as well when you have trouble remembering which 
Mary is which.

Cathy

Ron Ferguson wrote:
 Jay,

 Clearly you do not publish your work, so whatever takes your fancy is OK.

 However I would not like the job of sorting it all out should you
 change your mind.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 Sent from my Xperiaâ„¢ smartphone

 J.M. \Jay\ Ingalls  jay_inga...@pipeline.com wrote:

 Pat,

 I often put a note in the given name field, such as Mary-Not Pat's
 direct ancestor. Saves a lot of time, does not require reading the notes.

 I have some I need to work on, Like John-May be wrong wife, etc.

 Fortunately, we are no
t limited to 12 characters, or whatever it was
 in the first genealogy programs, for the given name field!

 Jay
 =
 On 5/17/2014 7:26 AM, Michele/Support wrote:

 Pat,

 If I have done a lot of work on them I would simply unlink them and
 leave them in my file.  If they were in the same location as your
 ancestors then they still might end up being connected in some way.Â

 Â

 Michele

 Technical Support

 mich...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com

 www.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 Â

 *From:*Pat Hickin [mailto:pph...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, May 16, 2014 6:51 PM
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Disproved ancestors

 Â

 I've got a couple of what were once thought to be ancestral lines and
 have since been disproved. Â I don't want to delete them entirely and
 I'm wondering how other L
egacy users handle the matter. Â I could put
 them in a separate file or leave them where they are and just
 Â unlink them so that they're no longer connected.

 Â

 I'd appreciate your thoughts/ideas. Â Thanks,

 Â

 Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] Disproved ancestors

2014-05-18 Thread Ron Ferguson
Sorry Cathy, I can't really agree on this one. I may well make a note in one of 
the notes but not in specific fields.

Wilst I do use privacy brackets, their disadvantage is that you either publish, 
or not, all of them. That is to say you cannot exclude one type but include 
another. In my view this limits their usefulness.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

Sent from my Xperia™ smartphone

Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:

It's fine to use the Name Field for a short easily seen note but I'd be 
putting the note in privacy brackets (double square brackets for those who 
haven't discovered them yet - they can be used in any field) so that it 
doesn't mess up publishing. These people may not be published but you can do 
this for real family members as well when you have trouble remembering which 
Mary is which.

Cathy

Ron Ferguson wrote:
 Jay,

 Clearly you do not publish your work, so whatever takes your fancy is OK.

 However I would not like the job of sorting it all out should you
 change your mind.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 Sent from my Xperiaâ„¢ smartphone

 J.M. \Jay\ Ingalls  jay_inga...@pipeline.com wrote:

 Pat,

 I often put a note in the given name field, such as Mary-Not Pat's
 direct ancestor. Saves a lot of time, does not require reading the notes.

 I have some I need to work on, Like John-May be wrong wife, etc.

 Fortunately, we are no
t limited to 12 characters, or whatever it was
 in the first genealogy programs, for the given name field!

 Jay
 =
 On 5/17/2014 7:26 AM, Michele/Support wrote:

 Pat,

 If I have done a lot of work on them I would simply unlink them and
 leave them in my file.  If they were in the same location as your
 ancestors then they still might end up being connected in some way.Â

 Â

 Michele

 Technical Support

 mich...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com

 www.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 Â

 *From:*Pat Hickin [mailto:pph...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, May 16, 2014 6:51 PM
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Disproved ancestors

 Â

 I've got a couple of what were once thought to be ancestral lines and
 have since been disproved. Â I don't want to delete them entirely and
 I'm wondering how other L
egacy users handle the matter. Â I could put
 them in a separate file or leave them where they are and just
 Â unlink them so that they're no longer connected.

 Â

 I'd appreciate your thoughts/ideas. Â Thanks,

 Â

 Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] Disproved ancestors

2014-05-18 Thread Cathy Pinner
Not for me. I always exclude everything that is in privacy brackets.
If I want some things sometimes but not others I use an event which I can make 
private when I don't want it.
Now I guess you could choose to include or not include event notes but since I 
haven't entered notes with the thought of not including them, this wouldn't 
work for me as I have years of data entry.

The thing is to be consistent. I'm consistent in never publishing things I put 
in privacy brackets (unless of course for research purposes I want a report of 
some kind for myself).

Ron, you're free to not use them in particular fields so that you can choose to 
include or exclude things in privacy brackets on other grounds. It's just not 
my way of entering data to consider putting things in privacy brackets that I 
may want to publish.

For me, they're too useful to not use in Name Fields.

Cathy

Ron Ferguson wrote:
 Sorry Cathy, I can't really agree on this one. I may well make a note in one 
 of the notes
 but not in specific fields.

 Wilst I do use privacy brackets, their disadvantage is that you either 
 publish, or not, all of them. That is to say you cannot exclude one type but 
 include another. In my view this limits their usefulness.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 Sent from my Xperiaâ„¢ smartphone

 Cathy Pinnergenea...@gmail.com  wrote:

 It's fine to use the Name Field for a short easily seen note but I'd be 
 putting the note in privacy brackets (double square brackets for those who 
 haven't discovered them yet - they can be used in any field) so that it 
 doesn't mess up publishing. These people may not be published but you can do 
 this for real family members as well when you have trouble remembering which 
 Mary is which.

 Cathy

 Ron Ferguson wrote:
 Jay,

 Clearly you do not publish your work, so whatever takes your fancy is OK.

 However I would not like the job of sorting it all out should you
 change your mind.


 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 Sent from my Xperiaâ„¢ smartphone

 J.M. \Jay\ Ingalls jay_inga...@pipeline.com  wrote:

 Pat,

 I often put a note in the given name field, such as Mary-Not Pat's
 direct ancestor. Saves a lot of time, does not require reading the notes.

 I have some I need to work on, Like John-May be wrong wife, etc.

 Fortunately, we are no
 t limited to 12 characters, or whatever it was
 in the first genealogy programs, for the given name field!

 Jay







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Re: [LegacyUG] Disproved ancestors

2014-05-18 Thread Ron Ferguson
Just different ways of working - it's no bad thing for users to know the 
options.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

Sent from my Xperia™ smartphone

Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:

Not for me. I always exclude everything that is in privacy brackets.
If I want some things sometimes but not others I use an event which I can make 
private when I don't want it.
Now I guess you could choose to include or not include event notes but since I 
haven't entered notes with the thought of not including them, this wouldn't 
work for me as I have years of data entry.

The thing is to be consistent. I'm consistent in never publishing things I put 
in privacy brackets (unless of course for research purposes I want a report of 
some kind for myself).

Ron, you're free to not use them in particular fields so that you can choose 
to include or exclude things in privacy brackets on other grounds. It's just 
not my way of entering data to consider putting things in privacy brackets 
that I may want to publish.

For me, they're too useful to not use in Name Fields.

Cathy

Ron Ferguson wrote:
 Sorry Cathy, I can't really agree on this one. I may well make a note in one 
 of the notes
 but not in specific fields.

 Wilst I do use privacy brackets, their disadvantage is that you either 
 publish, or not, all of them. That is to say you cannot exclude one type but 
 include another. In my view this limits their usefulness.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 Sent from my Xperiaâ„¢ smartphone

 Cathy Pinnergenea...@gmail.com  wrote:

 It's fine to use the Name Field for a short easily seen note but I'd be 
 putting the note in privacy brackets (double square brackets for those who 
 haven't discovered them yet - they can be used in any field) so that it 
 doesn't mess up publishing. These people may not be published but you can 
 do this for real family members as well when you have trouble remembering 
 which Mary is which.

 Cathy

 Ron Ferguson wrote:
 Jay,

 Clearly you do not publish your work, so whatever takes your fancy is OK.

 However I would not like the job of sorting it all out should you
 change your mind.


 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 Sent from my Xperiaâ„¢ smartphone

 J.M. \Jay\ Ingalls jay_inga...@pipeline.com  wrote:

 Pat,

 I often put a note in the given name field, such as Mary-Not Pat's
 direct ancestor. Saves a lot of time, does not require reading the notes.

 I have some I need to work on, Like John-May be wrong wife, etc.

 Fortunately, we are no
 t limited to 12 characters, or whatever it was
 in the first genealogy programs, for the given name field!

 Jay







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Re: [LegacyUG] Disproved ancestors

2014-05-18 Thread Pat Hickin
Well, it looks as though everyone feels it's best to keep them in and
unlink them.  I've already done the unlinking so I'll just let them stay
there.  Thanks for your input!

Pat


On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 4:20 AM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.ukwrote:

 Just different ways of working - it's no bad thing for users to know the
 options.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 Sent from my Xperia™ smartphone

 Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Not for me. I always exclude everything that is in privacy brackets.
 If I want some things sometimes but not others I use an event which I can
 make private when I don't want it.
 Now I guess you could choose to include or not include event notes but
 since I haven't entered notes with the thought of not including them, this
 wouldn't work for me as I have years of data entry.
 
 The thing is to be consistent. I'm consistent in never publishing things
 I put in privacy brackets (unless of course for research purposes I want a
 report of some kind for myself).
 
 Ron, you're free to not use them in particular fields so that you can
 choose to include or exclude things in privacy brackets on other grounds.
 It's just not my way of entering data to consider putting things in privacy
 brackets that I may want to publish.
 
 For me, they're too useful to not use in Name Fields.
 
 Cathy
 
 Ron Ferguson wrote:
  Sorry Cathy, I can't really agree on this one. I may well make a note
 in one of the notes
  but not in specific fields.
 
  Wilst I do use privacy brackets, their disadvantage is that you either
 publish, or not, all of them. That is to say you cannot exclude one type
 but include another. In my view this limits their usefulness.
 
  Ron Ferguson
  http://www.fergys.co.uk/
 
  Sent from my Xperiaâ„¢ smartphone
 
  Cathy Pinnergenea...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
  It's fine to use the Name Field for a short easily seen note but I'd
 be putting the note in privacy brackets (double square brackets for those
 who haven't discovered them yet - they can be used in any field) so that it
 doesn't mess up publishing. These people may not be published but you can
 do this for real family members as well when you have trouble remembering
 which Mary is which.
 
  Cathy
 
  Ron Ferguson wrote:
  Jay,
 
  Clearly you do not publish your work, so whatever takes your fancy is
 OK.
 
  However I would not like the job of sorting it all out should you
  change your mind.
 
 
  Ron Ferguson
  http://www.fergys.co.uk/
 
  Sent from my Xperiaâ„¢ smartphone
 
  J.M. \Jay\ Ingalls jay_inga...@pipeline.com  wrote:
 
  Pat,
 
  I often put a note in the given name field, such as Mary-Not Pat's
  direct ancestor. Saves a lot of time, does not require reading the
 notes.
 
  I have some I need to work on, Like John-May be wrong wife, etc.
 
  Fortunately, we are no
  t limited to 12 characters, or whatever it was
  in the first genealogy programs, for the given name field!
 
  Jay
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Migrating from The Master Genealogist (TMG)

2014-05-18 Thread Jane Sarles
I left TMG and moved to Legacy several years ago.  Legacy is much easier
and less cumbersome to input data.  The only thing I have missed in
Legacy that TMG offered is a true Ahnentafel report.  TMG does a very
good job of that and I have found no equivalent in Legacy.

Quite often I wish to follow one line (or surname)   from a particular
person back to the progenitor and it is tough to do that in Legacy.

Jane Sarles


On 5/17/2014 5:54 PM, jim.orrel...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have been productively using The Master Genealogist (TMG) for some
 years but I am now considering moving to a new genealogy database; the
 2 contenders seem to be ROOTSMAGIC and LEGACY FAMILY TREE.

 It would be nice to hear if anyone else has moved, and what FEATURES
 THEY KNOW TMG HAS THAT ARE MISSING in Legacy.

 As well as the usual the main features I am looking for are:

 [] Left to Right tree chart with flexible content/persons
 choice/exclude and formatting.

 [] Reports with flexible content/persons choice/exclude and formatting
 with easy manipulating with say Word Macros.

 [] Global database edits (similar to the TMG addon TMG Utility)

 [] A database that is easy to enquire/manipulate with SQL or similar
 with help of an active user group etc.

 [] A database that is not past its sell by date (TMG uses FoxPro, and
 as ever with TMG, no time indication of a fix/replacement).

 Cheers JimO



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Re: [LegacyUG] Migrating from The Master Genealogist (TMG)

2014-05-18 Thread Sherry/Support
Have you looked at the Relationship Report created through the
Relationship Calculator?

It's a direct line report between two individuals.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Jane Sarles sarlesinsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I left TMG and moved to Legacy several years ago.  Legacy is much easier
 and less cumbersome to input data.  The only thing I have missed in Legacy
 that TMG offered is a true Ahnentafel report.  TMG does a very good job of
 that and I have found no equivalent in Legacy.Â

 Quite often I wish to follow one line (or surname)Â Â  from a particular
 person back to the progenitor and it is tough to do that in Legacy.

 Jane Sarles




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Re: [LegacyUG] Migrating from The Master Genealogist (TMG)

2014-05-18 Thread Jane Sarles
Yes, but it doesn't give the details that I need in a full report. I
wish to have the wife, children, and event details. of all those in the
line.   Haven't found a way to do that in Legacy.

Jane


On 5/18/2014 9:42 AM, Sherry/Support wrote:
 Have you looked at the Relationship Report created through the
 Relationship Calculator?

 It's a direct line report between two individuals.


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


 On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Jane Sarles sarlesinsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I left TMG and moved to Legacy several years ago.  Legacy is much easier
 and less cumbersome to input data.  The only thing I have missed in Legacy
 that TMG offered is a true Ahnentafel report.  TMG does a very good job of
 that and I have found no equivalent in Legacy.Â

 Quite often I wish to follow one line (or surname)Â Â  from a particular
 person back to the progenitor and it is tough to do that in Legacy.

 Jane Sarles



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[LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????

2014-05-18 Thread elizabeth
Why does a '[1]' keep getting added to the file name every time I close and
save my file?

EXAMPLE;

john.zip becomes john[1].zip, then john[1][1].zip the next time I close and
save it...and on and on and on.

john.zip
john[1].zip
john[1][1].zip
john[1][1][1].zip
john[1][1][1][1].zip
etc.

elizabeth



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RE: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????

2014-05-18 Thread C.G. Ouimet
The Zip file is the backup. It might be because Legacy doesn’t want to 
overwrite the previous backup.



In Legacy, go to File, then Backup. Click  the Options button at the bottom and 
ensure to check the Append Date and Append Time to the filename.





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
Sent: May 18, 2014 01:50 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]



Why does a '[1]' keep getting added to the file name every time I close and 
save my file?

EXAMPLE;

john.zip becomes john[1].zip, then john[1][1].zip the next time I close and 
save it...and on and on and on.

john.zip

john[1].zip

john[1][1].zip

john[1][1][1].zip

john[1][1][1][1].zip

etc.



elizabeth



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Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????

2014-05-18 Thread elizabeth
I looked, and those options are already checked. The date and time appear
after the [1]s in each file name.

Elizabeth


On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

 The Zip file is the backup. It might be because Legacy doesn’t want to
 overwrite the previous backup.



 In Legacy, go to File, then Backup. Click  the Options button at the
 bottom and ensure to check the Append Date and Append Time to the filename.





 C.G. Ouimet

 Kingston ON



 *From:* elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* May 18, 2014 01:50 PM
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]



 Why does a '[1]' keep getting added to the file name every time I close
 and save my file?

 EXAMPLE;

 john.zip becomes john[1].zip, then john[1][1].zip the next time I close
 and save it...and on and on and on.

 john.zip

 john[1].zip

 john[1][1].zip

 john[1][1][1].zip

 john[1][1][1][1].zip

 etc.



 elizabeth



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Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????

2014-05-18 Thread ChasH
If you save some other type file, like a word file do you get the same
[1] being added to those files?

On 5/18/2014 2:10 PM, elizabeth wrote:
 I looked, and those options are already checked. The date and time
 appear after the [1]s in each file name.

 Elizabeth


 On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com
 mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

 The Zip file is the backup. It might be because Legacy doesn't
 want to overwrite the previous backup.

 In Legacy, go to File, then Backup. Click  the Options button at
 the bottom and ensure to check the Append Date and Append Time to
 the filename.

 C.G. Ouimet

 Kingston ON

 *From:*elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com
 mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* May 18, 2014 01:50 PM
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]

 Why does a '[1]' keep getting added to the file name every time I
 close and save my file?

 EXAMPLE;

 john.zip becomes john[1].zip, then john[1][1].zip the next time I
 close and save it...and on and on and on.

 john.zip

 john[1].zip

 john[1][1].zip

 john[1][1][1].zip

 john[1][1][1][1].zip

 etc.

 elizabeth



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Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????

2014-05-18 Thread Ron Taylor
Are you sure you are not using the Save As versus the Backup Family File?

Save as can append a bracketed number to a filename if the name already exists. 
 The backup will ask if it is alright to overwrite a filename that already 
exists.  The only mystery is that you say the file has .zip extension which 
should indicate a backup.  If you're not doing backup to a file with date and 
time appended, then the same filename will be attempted.  Windows has the 
ability to prevent files from being overwritten and perhaps that is what is 
causing the bracketed number to be appended.  Google bracketed numbers being 
appended to filenames where several articles describe this situation.


On Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:28 PM, ChasH howell...@gmail.com wrote:



If you save some other type file, like a word file do you get the same [1] 
being added to those files?


On 5/18/2014 2:10 PM, elizabeth wrote:

I looked, and those options are already checked. The date and time appear after 
the [1]s in each file name.


Elizabeth




On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

The Zip file is the backup. It might be because Legacy doesn’t want to 
overwrite the previous backup.
 
In Legacy, go to File, then Backup. Click  the Options button at the bottom 
and ensure to check the Append Date and Append Time to the filename.
 
 
C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON
 
From:elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
Sent: May 18, 2014 01:50 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]
 
Why does a '[1]' keep getting added to the file name every time I close and 
save my file?
EXAMPLE;
john.zip becomes john[1].zip, then john[1][1].zip the next time I close and 
save it...and on and on and on.
john.zip
john[1].zip
john[1][1].zip
john[1][1][1].zip
john[1][1][1][1].zip
etc.
 
elizabeth


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Re: [LegacyUG] Migrating from The Master Genealogist (TMG)

2014-05-18 Thread Sherry/Support
Send in a suggestion on the Suggestion form in Legacy on the Legacy
Home tab or on the website  I'll add it to the list for the
programmers to consider


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Jane Sarles sarlesinsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, but it doesn't give the details that I need in a full report. I
 wish to have the wife, children, and event details. of all those in the
 line.   Haven't found a way to do that in Legacy.

 Jane




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RE: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????

2014-05-18 Thread C.G. Ouimet
Hmm …



You didn’t say your backup files had Date and Time embedded in them.



My backup files all show as something like …



CGO Master 800 2014-05-13 06.48.20 AM.zip with no [1]



C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
Sent: May 18, 2014 03:10 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]



I looked, and those options are already checked. The date and time appear after 
the [1]s in each file name.

Elizabeth



On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

The Zip file is the backup. It might be because Legacy doesn’t want to 
overwrite the previous backup.



In Legacy, go to File, then Backup. Click  the Options button at the bottom and 
ensure to check the Append Date and Append Time to the filename.





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
Sent: May 18, 2014 01:50 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]



Why does a '[1]' keep getting added to the file name every time I close and 
save my file?

EXAMPLE;

john.zip becomes john[1].zip, then john[1][1].zip the next time I close and 
save it...and on and on and on.

john.zip

john[1].zip

john[1][1].zip

john[1][1][1].zip

john[1][1][1][1].zip

etc.



elizabeth



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RE: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????

2014-05-18 Thread Charles Apple
Elizabeth,

I tested a backup on the new version of Legacy (8.0.0.427) and Legacy does not 
add any numbers i.e., [1][1] etc. to the filename. Please check to make sure 
that you are using “File Backup.”

Charles

From: elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:50 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]

Why does a '[1]' keep getting added to the file name every time I close and 
save my file?
EXAMPLE;
john.zip becomes john[1].zip, then john[1][1].zip the next time I close and 
save it...and on and on and on.
john.zip
john[1].zip
john[1][1].zip
john[1][1][1].zip
john[1][1][1][1].zip
etc.

elizabeth




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Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????

2014-05-18 Thread Mike Fry
On 18 May 2014 19:49, elizabeth wrote:
 Why does a '[1]' keep getting added to the file name every time I close and 
 save
 my file?

 EXAMPLE;

 john.zip becomes john[1].zip, then john[1][1].zip the next time I close and 
 save
 it...and on and on and on.

 john.zip
 john[1].zip
 john[1][1].zip
 john[1][1][1].zip
 john[1][1][1][1].zip

Is it possible that your family file was actually saved as john.zip.fdb?

--
Regards, Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????

2014-05-18 Thread Cathy Pinner
Elizabeth,
It sounds as if you have the folder set up not to override the previous backup 
file. This is the type of addition that you get with Windows when you copy a 
file to a folder that already has a file of that name and you say you want to 
keep both.
That's good that the previous backup isn't being overwritten, but it's more 
normal to use the naming ability in Legacy to add the date and time to the file 
name.  See the options button on the backup dialogue.

Cathy

C.G. Ouimet wrote:
 Hmm …

 You didn’t say your backup files had Date and Time embedded in them.

 My backup files all show as something like …

 CGO Master 800 2014-05-13 06.48.20 AM.zip with no [1]

 C.G. Ouimet

 Kingston ON

 *From:*elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* May 18, 2014 03:10 PM
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]

 I looked, and those options are already checked. The date and time
 appear after the [1]s in each
 file name.

 Elizabeth

 On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com
 mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

 The Zip file is the backup. It might be because Legacy doesn’t want to
 overwrite the previous backup.

 In Legacy, go to File, then Backup. Click the Options button at the
 bottom and ensure to check the Append Date and Append Time to the
 filename.

 C.G. Ouimet

 Kingston ON

 *From:*elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* May 18, 2014 01:50 PM
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]

 Why does a '[1]' keep getting added to the file name every time I
 close and save my file?

 EXAMPLE;

 john.zip becomes john[1].zip, then john[1][1].zip the next time I
 close and save it...and on and on and on.

 john.zip

 john[1].zip

 john[1][1].zip

 john[1][1][1].zip

 john[1][1][
1][1].zip

 etc.

 elizabeth




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Re: [LegacyUG] Migrating from The Master Genealogist (TMG)

2014-05-18 Thread Cathy Pinner
Hi Jane,
I was about to ask what exactly you meant and whether you'd found the
Relationship Report.

Sending in a suggestion is a good idea.

In the meantime you could tag and export the people you want in the
report and use the Ancestor Book report OR if that's not picking up all
the details you want of the family members you want added, use one of
the Descendant reports.

Cathy
 Sherry/Support mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com
 Monday, 19 May 2014 5:05 AM
 Send in a suggestion on the Suggestion form in Legacy on the Legacy
 Home tab or on the website I'll add it to the list for the
 programmers to consider


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree






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Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????

2014-05-18 Thread elizabeth
Thanks for anyone who is trying to help me. I checked and my files are not
being saved as .zip.fdb, they are just ,zip.



Here is exactly what happens. It has always been this way but I have just
never taken the time to ask anyone about it before.

I open legacy and do whatever work I want to do in my file.

When I am finished I always click on the 'x' in the top right corner to
close the program. It brings up the 'Exit Legacy' box that asks if I am
sure i want to exit Legacy. I click 'yes'.

Then it brings up the 'Backup Legacy Family file Box'. I click the 'Backup'
button. (I don't have any Multimedia so I never click on that button)

Then it brings up the 'Customize Backup' box. I have 'Data Files' checked
so that everything gets backed up.

It has a button that says 'Select Name and Location for Data Backup'. (The
'Currently' location is c:\Legacy\Data\ and it is a .zip file)
(When I first created this file months ago, I just named it 'john'.but
after months of saving this file like this, it has become
'john[1][1][1][1][1][1][1][1][1][1][1][1][1][1][1[1][1][1][1][1][1][1][1][1]]2014-05-18
7:22.04PM.zip. - etc.)

When I click that button that says 'Select Name and Location for Data
Backup', it takes me to 'Backup Data Files' and the file name (with all the
'[1]'s) shows in the 'File Name' box and is saved as a .zip file into the
C:\Legacy\Data folder.
When I look in that folder on my hard drive, there are TONS of files in
there with the file name plus all those '[1]'s added to the name (but
before the date and time). Each file has added an extra '[1]' when it was
saved.


I'm obviously not doing something right so I guess what I need to know and
am asking is:

1. After I have opened a file in my Legacy program and added information to
it, what is the correct way to save that file? (Do I save it or back it
up?)[Step by step instructions please]

2. Since the only files in my C:\Legacy\Data folder are .zip files, where
are my .fdb files located?


Elizabeth






On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:10 PM, elizabeth newi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I looked, and those options are already checked. The date and time appear
 after the [1]s in each file name.

 Elizabeth


 On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.comwrote:

 The Zip file is the backup. It might be because Legacy doesn’t want to
 overwrite the previous backup.



 In Legacy, go to File, then Backup. Click  the Options button at the
 bottom and ensure to check the Append Date and Append Time to the filename.





 C.G. Ouimet

 Kingston ON



 *From:* elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* May 18, 2014 01:50 PM
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]



 Why does a '[1]' keep getting added to the file name every time I close
 and save my file?

 EXAMPLE;

 john.zip becomes john[1].zip, then john[1][1].zip the next time I close
 and save it...and on and on and on.

 john.zip

 john[1].zip

 john[1][1].zip

 john[1][1][1].zip

 john[1][1][1][1].zip

 etc.



 elizabeth



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Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????

2014-05-18 Thread elizabeth
My files do add the date and time each time I back them up, but the date
and time are added 'at the end' of all the '[1]'s but before the .zip.

EX;
john[1][1][1][1][1]2014-05-15 07.38.06 PM.zip


Elizabeth


On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Elizabeth,
 It sounds as if you have the folder set up not to override the previous
 backup file. This is the type of addition that you get with Windows when
 you copy a file to a folder that already has a file of that name and you
 say you want to keep both.
 That's good that the previous backup isn't being overwritten, but it's
 more normal to use the naming ability in Legacy to add the date and time to
 the file name.  See the options button on the backup dialogue.

 Cathy

 C.G. Ouimet wrote:
  Hmm …
 
  You didn’t say your backup files had Date and Time embedded in them.
 
  My backup files all show as something like …
 
  CGO Master 800 2014-05-13 06.48.20 AM.zip with no [1]
 
  C.G. Ouimet
 
  Kingston ON
 
  *From:*elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
  *Sent:* May 18, 2014 03:10 PM
  *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]
 
  I looked, and those options are already checked. The date and time
  appear after the [1]s in each
  file name.
 
  Elizabeth
 
  On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com
  mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:
 
  The Zip file is the backup. It might be because Legacy doesn’t want to
  overwrite the previous backup.
 
  In Legacy, go to File, then Backup. Click the Options button at the
  bottom and ensure to check the Append Date and Append Time to the
  filename.
 
  C.G. Ouimet
 
  Kingston ON
 
  *From:*elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
  *Sent:* May 18, 2014 01:50 PM
  *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  *Subject:* [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]
 
  Why does a '[1]' keep getting added to the file name every time I
  close and save my file?
 
  EXAMPLE;
 
  john.zip becomes john[1].zip, then john[1][1].zip the next time I
  close and save it...and on and on and on.
 
  john.zip
 
  john[1].zip
 
  john[1][1].zip
 
  john[1][1][1].zip
 
  john[1][1][
 1][1].zip
 
  etc.
 
  elizabeth
 



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Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????

2014-05-18 Thread Cathy Pinner
Elizabeth,
You've told us exactly how you are backing up your file but you seem a little 
confused.
A backup file is a zip file that contains your .fdb file and other related 
files depending on what you've ticked in the backup.

How are you opening your file? You sound like you think that doing the backup 
is the process of saving your work - but it isn't. Your work is already saved 
in the .fdb file you had open. You're just backing up on exit.

Is it possible that you are opening your file from within one of those zip 
files? I'm not sure what happens when you backup after doing that. I'll give it 
a try with a test file and get back if I reproduce your zip filenames.

Cathy

elizabeth wrote:
 My files do add the date and time each time I back them up, but the
 date and time are added 'at the end' of all the '[1]'s but before the
 .zip.

 EX;
 john[1][1][1][1][1]2014-05-15 07.38.06 PM.zip


 Elizabeth


 On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Cathy Pinner geneakit@gmail
.com
 mailto:genea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Elizabeth,
 It sounds as if you have the folder set up not to override the
 previous backup file. This is the type of addition that you get
 with Windows when you copy a file to a folder that already has a
 file of that name and you say you want to keep both.
 That's good that the previous backup isn't being overwritten, but
 it's more normal to use the naming ability in Legacy to add the
 date and time to the file name.  See the options button on the
 backup dialogue.

 Cathy

 C.G. Ouimet wrote:
  Hmm …
 
  You didn’t say your backup files had Date and Time embedded in
 them.
 
  My backup files all show as something like …
 
  CGO Master 800 2014-05-13 06.48.20 AM.zip with no [1]
 
  C.G. Ouimet
 
  Kingston ON
 
  *From:*elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com
 mailto
:newi...@gmail.com]
  *Sent:* May 18, 2014 03:10 PM
  *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]
 
  I looked, and those options are already checked. The date and time
  appear after the [1]s in each
  file name.
 
  Elizabeth
 
  On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM, C.G. Ouimet
 c.g.oui...@outlook.com mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com
  mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com
 wrote:
 
  The Zip file is the backup. It might be because Legacy doesn’t
 want to
  overwrite the previous backup.
 
  In Legacy, go to File, then Backup. Click the Options button at the
  bottom and ensure to check the Append Date and Append Time to the
  filename.
 
  C.G. Ouimet
 
  Kingston ON
 
  *From:*elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com
 mailto:newintr@gmail
.com mailto:newi...@gmail.com
 mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
  *Sent:* May 18, 2014 01:50 PM
  *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  *Subject:* [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]
 
  Why does a '[1]' keep getting added to the file name every time I
  close and save my file?
 
  EXAMPLE;
 
  john.zip becomes john[1].zip, then john[1][1].zip the next time I
  close and save it...and on and on and on.
 
  john.zip
 
  john[1].zip
 
  john[1][1].zip
 
  john[1][1][1].zip
 
  john[1][1][
 1][1].zip
 
  etc.
 
  elizabeth
 



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Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????

2014-05-18 Thread Cathy Pinner
Hi Elizabeth,
Yes that's what you're doing - and it's a really complicated way of
opening a file - but when you do and then backup you get that [1] added
each time.

So what you are doing wrong is that at some stage you went looking for a
file and opened it from within a zip file.

If your options are set to open the last file, it then reopens from
within the zip it seems.

Which folder do you think your data is in? Are the backups going to the
same place or not?

If you are using Legacy 8, the most sensible place to keep your data
file is Documents/Legacy Family Tree/Data

Your backups would normally be saved to somewhere else, preferably
either a folder that gets synced with cloud storage like Dropbox or
OneDrive, or an external drive.

What you need to do in Legacy is Restore your latest zip. Make sure you
control where the file is restored to and give it a new name without all
those [1]'s.

Then continue backing up as you are doing (though you may want to choose
a different folder or drive) AND make sure you open the fdb file from
where you saved it.  NEVER open an .fdb file from within a zip file.  I
know you probably don't realise you've been doing that but at some point
you did.

To be absolutely sure you open the right file, set your option at
Options  Customise (1.2 in Legacy 8 - on the general tab in Legacy 7)
to open this file. Make sure you browse to the file in an ordinary
folder - NOT a zip folder. The problem is that Windows shows you the
contents of zips as if they are a folder and you can open things from
within them.

I hope you can follow all this.
Cathy
 Cathy Pinner mailto:genea...@gmail.com
 Monday, 19 May 2014 8:22 AM
 Elizabeth,
 You've told us exactly how you are backing up your file but you seem a
 little confused.
 A backup file is a zip file that contains your .fdb file and other
 related files depending on what you've ticked in the backup.

 How are you opening your file? You sound like you think that doing the
 backup is the process of saving your work - but it isn't. Your work is
 already saved in the .fdb file you had open. You're just backing up on
 exit.

 Is it possible that you are opening your file from within one of those
 zip files? I'm not sure what happens when you backup after doing that.
 I'll give it a try with a test file and get back if I reproduce your
 zip filenames.

 Cathy

 elizabeth wrote:
 My files do add the date and time each time I back them up, but the
 date and time are added 'at the end' of all the '[1]'s but before the
 .zip.

 EX;
 john[1][1][1][1][1]2014-05-15 07.38.06 PM.zip


 Elizabeth


 On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Cathy Pinner geneakit@gmail
 .com
 mailto:genea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Elizabeth,
 It sounds as if you have the folder set up not to override the
 previous backup file. This is the type of addition that you get
 with Windows when you copy a file to a folder that already has a
 file of that name and you say you want to keep both.
 That's good that the previous backup isn't being overwritten, but
 it's more normal to use the naming ability in Legacy to add the
 date and time to the file name.  See the options button on the
 backup dialogue.

 Cathy

 C.G. Ouimet wrote:
  Hmm …
 
  You didn’t say your backup files had Date and Time embedded in
 them.
 
  My backup files all show as something like …
 
  CGO Master 800 2014-05-13 06.48.20 AM.zip with no [1]
 
  C.G. Ouimet
 
  Kingston ON
 
  *From:*elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com
 mailto
 :newi...@gmail.com]
  *Sent:* May 18, 2014 03:10 PM
  *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]
 
  I looked, and those options are already checked. The date and time
  appear after the [1]s in each
  file name.
 
  Elizabeth
 
  On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM, C.G. Ouimet
 c.g.oui...@outlook.com mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com
  mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com
 wrote:
 
  The Zip file is the backup. It might be because Legacy doesn’t
 want to
  overwrite the previous backup.
 
  In Legacy, go to File, then Backup. Click the Options button at the
  bottom and ensure to check the Append Date and Append Time to the
  filename.
 
  C.G. Ouimet
 
  Kingston ON
 
  *From:*elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com
 mailto:newintr@gmail
 .com mailto:newi...@gmail.com
 mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
  *Sent:* May 18, 2014 01:50 PM
  *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  *Subject:* [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]
 
  Why does a '[1]' keep getting added to the file name every time I
  close and save my file?
 
  EXAMPLE;
 
  john.zip becomes john[1].zip, then john[1][1].zip the next time I
  close and save it...and on and on and on.
 
  john.zip
 
  john[1].zip
 
  john[1][1].zip
 
  john[1][1][1].zip
 
  john[1][1][
 1][1].zip
 
  etc.
 
  elizabeth
 
 elizabeth 

Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????

2014-05-18 Thread elizabeth
I looked to see what file I open when I use Legacy.It isn't a .zip file, it
is a .fdb file.


Here is how I always open a file in Legacy:

I open Legacy from my desktop.

I click on 'File', then 'Open Family file'.

Then I just click on the name of the file because it is always shown in the
right side of the 'Open Family File' window. It is a .fdb file.

I just looked to see where it is and it says it is in Windows\Temporary
Internet files\Content IE5\2YWAM2EK


That is very weird because I then tried to find the folder called
'Temporary Internet Files' in the Windows folder on my hard drive but it
isn't there??!!

Elizabeth


On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Elizabeth,
 You've told us exactly how you are backing up your file but you seem a
 little confused.
 A backup file is a zip file that contains your .fdb file and other related
 files depending on what you've ticked in the backup.

 How are you opening your file? You sound like you think that doing the
 backup is the process of saving your work - but it isn't. Your work is
 already saved in the .fdb file you had open. You're just backing up on exit.

 Is it possible that you are opening your file from within one of those zip
 files? I'm not sure what happens when you backup after doing that. I'll
 give it a try with a test file and get back if I reproduce your zip
 filenames.

 Cathy

 elizabeth wrote:
  My files do add the date and time each time I back them up, but the
  date and time are added 'at the end' of all the '[1]'s but before the
  .zip.
 
  EX;
  john[1][1][1][1][1]2014-05-15 07.38.06 PM.zip
 
 
  Elizabeth
 
 
  On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Cathy Pinner geneakit@gmail
 .com
  mailto:genea...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Elizabeth,
  It sounds as if you have the folder set up not to override the
  previous backup file. This is the type of addition that you get
  with Windows when you copy a file to a folder that already has a
  file of that name and you say you want to keep both.
  That's good that the previous backup isn't being overwritten, but
  it's more normal to use the naming ability in Legacy to add the
  date and time to the file name.  See the options button on the
  backup dialogue.
 
  Cathy
 
  C.G. Ouimet wrote:
   Hmm …
  
   You didn’t say your backup files had Date and Time embedded
 in
  them.
  
   My backup files all show as something like …
  
   CGO Master 800 2014-05-13 06.48.20 AM.zip with no [1]
  
   C.G. Ouimet
  
   Kingston ON
  
   *From:*elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com
  mailto
 :newi...@gmail.com]
   *Sent:* May 18, 2014 03:10 PM
   *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
   *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]
  
   I looked, and those options are already checked. The date and time
   appear after the [1]s in each
   file name.
  
   Elizabeth
  
   On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM, C.G. Ouimet
  c.g.oui...@outlook.com mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com
   mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com
  wrote:
  
   The Zip file is the backup. It might be because Legacy
 doesn’t
  want to
   overwrite the previous backup.
  
   In Legacy, go to File, then Backup. Click the Options button at the
   bottom and ensure to check the Append Date and Append Time to the
   filename.
  
   C.G. Ouimet
  
   Kingston ON
  
   *From:*elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com
  mailto:newintr@gmail
 .com mailto:newi...@gmail.com
  mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
   *Sent:* May 18, 2014 01:50 PM
   *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
   mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
   *Subject:* [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]
  
   Why does a '[1]' keep getting added to the file name every time I
   close and save my file?
  
   EXAMPLE;
  
   john.zip becomes john[1].zip, then john[1][1].zip the next time I
   close and save it...and on and on and on.
  
   john.zip
  
   john[1].zip
  
   john[1][1].zip
  
   john[1][1][1].zip
  
   john[1][1][
  1][1].zip
  
   etc.
  
   elizabeth
  



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Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????

2014-05-18 Thread elizabeth
sorry, i should have said in the beginning that i use legacy 7.5, the free
version. I do not want to go to version 8 because other people in my family
all share and we all use the free 7.5. Will these instructions still work?

Elizabeth


On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Elizabeth,
 Yes that's what you're doing - and it's a really complicated way of
 opening a file - but when you do and then backup you get that [1] added
 each time.

 So what you are doing wrong is that at some stage you went looking for a
 file and opened it from within a zip file.

 If your options are set to open the last file, it then reopens from
 within the zip it seems.

 Which folder do you think your data is in? Are the backups going to the
 same place or not?

 If you are using Legacy 8, the most sensible place to keep your data
 file is Documents/Legacy Family Tree/Data

 Your backups would normally be saved to somewhere else, preferably
 either a folder that gets synced with cloud storage like Dropbox or
 OneDrive, or an external drive.

 What you need to do in Legacy is Restore your latest zip. Make sure you
 control where the file is restored to and give it a new name without all
 those [1]'s.

 Then continue backing up as you are doing (though you may want to choose
 a different folder or drive) AND make sure you open the fdb file from
 where you saved it.  NEVER open an .fdb file from within a zip file.  I
 know you probably don't realise you've been doing that but at some point
 you did.

 To be absolutely sure you open the right file, set your option at
 Options  Customise (1.2 in Legacy 8 - on the general tab in Legacy 7)
 to open this file. Make sure you browse to the file in an ordinary
 folder - NOT a zip folder. The problem is that Windows shows you the
 contents of zips as if they are a folder and you can open things from
 within them.

 I hope you can follow all this.
 Cathy
  Cathy Pinner mailto:genea...@gmail.com
  Monday, 19 May 2014 8:22 AM
  Elizabeth,
  You've told us exactly how you are backing up your file but you seem a
  little confused.
  A backup file is a zip file that contains your .fdb file and other
  related files depending on what you've ticked in the backup.
 
  How are you opening your file? You sound like you think that doing the
  backup is the process of saving your work - but it isn't. Your work is
  already saved in the .fdb file you had open. You're just backing up on
  exit.
 
  Is it possible that you are opening your file from within one of those
  zip files? I'm not sure what happens when you backup after doing that.
  I'll give it a try with a test file and get back if I reproduce your
  zip filenames.
 
  Cathy
 
  elizabeth wrote:
  My files do add the date and time each time I back them up, but the
  date and time are added 'at the end' of all the '[1]'s but before the
  .zip.
 
  EX;
  john[1][1][1][1][1]2014-05-15 07.38.06 PM.zip
 
 
  Elizabeth
 
 
  On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Cathy Pinner geneakit@gmail
  .com
  mailto:genea...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Elizabeth,
  It sounds as if you have the folder set up not to override the
  previous backup file. This is the type of addition that you get
  with Windows when you copy a file to a folder that already has a
  file of that name and you say you want to keep both.
  That's good that the previous backup isn't being overwritten, but
  it's more normal to use the naming ability in Legacy to add the
  date and time to the file name.  See the options button on the
  backup dialogue.
 
  Cathy
 
  C.G. Ouimet wrote:
   Hmm …
  
   You didn’t say your backup files had Date and Time embedded in
  them.
  
   My backup files all show as something like …
  
   CGO Master 800 2014-05-13 06.48.20 AM.zip with no [1]
  
   C.G. Ouimet
  
   Kingston ON
  
   *From:*elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com
  mailto
  :newi...@gmail.com]
   *Sent:* May 18, 2014 03:10 PM
   *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
   *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]
  
   I looked, and those options are already checked. The date and time
   appear after the [1]s in each
   file name.
  
   Elizabeth
  
   On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM, C.G. Ouimet
  c.g.oui...@outlook.com mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com
   mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com
  wrote:
  
   The Zip file is the backup. It might be because Legacy doesn’t
  want to
   overwrite the previous backup.
  
   In Legacy, go to File, then Backup. Click the Options button at the
   bottom and ensure to check the Append Date and Append Time to the
   filename.
  
   C.G. Ouimet
  
   Kingston ON
  
   *From:*elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com
  mailto:newintr@gmail
  .com mailto:newi...@gmail.com
  mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
   *Sent:* May 18, 2014 01:50 PM
   *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
   mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  

Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????

2014-05-18 Thread Cathy Pinner
Hi Elizabeth,
I've written privately about this.

Please - follow my instructions to RESTORE the latest zip file to get out of 
your mess.

Windows is doing it's best by opening the fdb in a temporary area (and probably 
hidden as well).
That is proof that I've diagnosed the problem correctly.

Cathy

elizabeth wrote:
 I looked to see what file I open when I use Legacy.It isn't a .zip
 file, it is a .fdb file.


 Here is how I always open a file in Legacy:

 I open Legacy from my desktop.

 I click on 'File', then 'Open Family file'.

 Then I just click on the name of the file because it is always shown
 in the right side of the 'Open Family File' window. It is a .fdb file.

 I just looked to see where it is and it says it is in
 Windows\Temporary Internet files\Content IE5\2YWAM2EK


 That is very weird because I then tried to find the folder called
 'Temporary Internet Files' in the Windows folder on my hard drive but
 it isn't there??!!

 Eliza
beth


 On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com
 mailto:genea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Elizabeth,
 You've told us exactly how you are backing up your file but you
 seem a little confused.
 A backup file is a zip file that contains your .fdb file and other
 related files depending on what you've ticked in the backup.

 How are you opening your file? You sound like you think that doing
 the backup is the process of saving your work - but it isn't. Your
 work is already saved in the .fdb file you had open. You're just
 backing up on exit.

 Is it possible that you are opening your file from within one of
 those zip files? I'm not sure what happens when you backup after
 doing that. I'll give it a try with a test file and get back if I
 reproduce your zip filenames.

 Cathy

 elizabeth wrote:
  My files do add the date and time each time I back them up, but the

date and time are added 'at the end' of all the '[1]'s but
 before the
  .zip.
 
  EX;
  john[1][1][1][1][1]2014-05-15 07.38.06 PM.zip
 
 
  Elizabeth
 
 
  On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Cathy Pinner geneakit@gmail
 .com
  mailto:genea...@gmail.com mailto:genea...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Elizabeth,
  It sounds as if you have the folder set up not to override the
  previous backup file. This is the type of addition that you get
  with Windows when you copy a file to a folder that already has a
  file of that name and you say you want to keep both.
  That's good that the previous backup isn't being
 overwritten, but
  it's more normal to use the naming ability in Legacy to add the
  date and time to the file name.  See the options button on the
  backup dialogue.
 
  Cathy

  
  C.G. Ouimet wrote:
   Hmm …
  
   You didn’t say your backup files had Date and Time
 embedded in
  them.
  
   My backup files all show as something like …
  
   CGO Master 800 2014-05-13 06.48.20 AM.zip with no [1]
  
   C.G. Ouimet
  
   Kingston ON
  
   *From:*elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com
 mailto:newi...@gmail.com
  mailto
 :newi...@gmail.com mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
   *Sent:* May 18, 2014 03:10 PM
   *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
   *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]
  
   I looked, and those options are already checked. The date and time
   appear after the [1]s in each
   file name.
  
   Elizabeth
  
   On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM, C.G. Ouimet
  c.g.ouimet@outlook.
com mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com
 mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com
   mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com
 mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com
  wrote:
  
   The Zip file is the backup. It might be because Legacy
 doesn’t
  want to
   overwrite the previous backup.
  
   In Legacy, go to File, then Backup. Click the Options button
 at the
   bottom and ensure to check the Append Date and Append Time to the
   filename.
  
   C.G. Ouimet
  
   Kingston ON
  
   *From:*elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com
 mailto:newi...@gmail.com
  mailto:newintr@gmail mailto:newintr@gmail
 .com mailto:newi...@gmail.com mailto:newi...@gmail.com
  mailto:newi...@gmail.com mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
   *Sent:* May
 18, 2014 01:50 PM
   *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
   mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
   *Subject:* [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]
  
   Why does a '[1]' keep getting added to 

Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????

2014-05-18 Thread Cathy Pinner
Hi Elizabeth,

I've been trying to give the instructions for both 8 and 7 (7.5).

The process is still the same though where you choose to save your
actual data file may be different.

File  Restore the latest zip file.

Choose where to save the restored file and give it a new name.

The default place for Legacy 7.5 is C:\Legacy\Data or the Data folder
wherever Legacy has been installed. Legacy 7.5 should not have been
installed to Program Files as Legacy 7.5 writes constantly the Program
Folder and Windows doesn't allow that and so saves the files in weird
hidden places.

You can choose wherever convenient for your Legacy data file. I had mine
at D:\Genealogy\Legacy 7\Data

Then both make sure that is where you are getting your file when you
open your file again and/or set up Options  Customise - Starting Family
File section.

Cathy

 elizabeth mailto:newi...@gmail.com
 Monday, 19 May 2014 8:52 AM
 sorry, i should have said in the beginning that i use legacy 7.5, the
 free version. I do not want to go to version 8 because other people in
 my family all share and we all use the free 7.5. Will these
 instructions still work?

 Elizabeth





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 Cathy Pinner mailto:genea...@gmail.com
 Monday, 19 May 2014 8:22 AM
 Elizabeth,
 You've told us exactly how you are backing up your file but you seem a
 little confused.
 A backup file is a zip file that contains your .fdb file and other
 related files depending on what you've ticked in the backup.

 How are you opening your file? You sound like you think that doing the
 backup is the process of saving your work - but it isn't. Your work is
 already saved in the .fdb file you had open. You're just backing up on
 exit.

 Is it possible that you are opening your file from within one of those
 zip files? I'm not sure what happens when you backup after doing that.
 I'll give it a try with a test file and get back if I reproduce your
 zip filenames.

 Cathy

 elizabeth wrote:
 My files do add the date and time each time I back them up, but the
 date and time are added 'at the end' of all the '[1]'s but before the
 .zip.

 EX;
 john[1][1][1][1][1]2014-05-15 07.38.06 PM.zip


 Elizabeth


 On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Cathy Pinner geneakit@gmail
 .com
 mailto:genea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Elizabeth,
 It sounds as if you have the folder set up not to override the
 previous backup file. This is the type of addition that you get
 with Windows when you copy a file to a folder that already has a
 file of that name and you say you want to keep both.
 That's good that the previous backup isn't being overwritten, but
 it's more normal to use the naming ability in Legacy to add the
 date and time to the file name.  See the options button on the
 backup dialogue.

 Cathy

 C.G. Ouimet wrote:
  Hmm …
 
  You didn’t say your backup files had Date and Time embedded in
 them.
 
  My backup files all show as something like …
 
  CGO Master 800 2014-05-13 06.48.20 AM.zip with no [1]
 
  C.G. Ouimet
 
  Kingston ON
 
  *From:*elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com
 mailto
 :newi...@gmail.com]
  *Sent:* May 18, 2014 03:10 PM
  *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]
 
  I looked, and those options are already checked. The date and time
  appear after the [1]s in each
  file name.
 
  Elizabeth
 
  On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM, C.G. Ouimet
 c.g.oui...@outlook.com mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com
  mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com
 wrote:
 
  The Zip file is the backup. It might be because Legacy doesn’t
 want to
  overwrite the previous backup.
 
  In Legacy, go to File, then Backup. Click the Options button at the
  bottom and ensure to check the Append Date and Append Time to the
  filename.
 
  C.G. Ouimet
 
  Kingston ON
 
  *From:*elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com
 mailto:newintr@gmail
 .com mailto:newi...@gmail.com
 mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
  *Sent:* May 18, 2014 01:50 PM
  *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  *Subject:* [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]
 
  Why does a '[1]' keep getting added to the file name every time I
  close and save my file?
 
  EXAMPLE;
 
  john.zip becomes john[1].zip, then john[1][1].zip the next time I
  close and save it...and on and on and on.
 
  john.zip
 
  

Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????

2014-05-18 Thread elizabeth
I must go for now but will try to return tomorrow because I am still
confused.

Elizabeth


On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Elizabeth,

 I've been trying to give the instructions for both 8 and 7 (7.5).

 The process is still the same though where you choose to save your
 actual data file may be different.

 File  Restore the latest zip file.

 Choose where to save the restored file and give it a new name.

 The default place for Legacy 7.5 is C:\Legacy\Data or the Data folder
 wherever Legacy has been installed. Legacy 7.5 should not have been
 installed to Program Files as Legacy 7.5 writes constantly the Program
 Folder and Windows doesn't allow that and so saves the files in weird
 hidden places.

 You can choose wherever convenient for your Legacy data file. I had mine
 at D:\Genealogy\Legacy 7\Data

 Then both make sure that is where you are getting your file when you
 open your file again and/or set up Options  Customise - Starting Family
 File section.

 Cathy

  elizabeth mailto:newi...@gmail.com
  Monday, 19 May 2014 8:52 AM
  sorry, i should have said in the beginning that i use legacy 7.5, the
  free version. I do not want to go to version 8 because other people in
  my family all share and we all use the free 7.5. Will these
  instructions still work?
 
  Elizabeth
 
 
 
 
 
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  Cathy Pinner mailto:genea...@gmail.com
  Monday, 19 May 2014 8:22 AM
  Elizabeth,
  You've told us exactly how you are backing up your file but you seem a
  little confused.
  A backup file is a zip file that contains your .fdb file and other
  related files depending on what you've ticked in the backup.
 
  How are you opening your file? You sound like you think that doing the
  backup is the process of saving your work - but it isn't. Your work is
  already saved in the .fdb file you had open. You're just backing up on
  exit.
 
  Is it possible that you are opening your file from within one of those
  zip files? I'm not sure what happens when you backup after doing that.
  I'll give it a try with a test file and get back if I reproduce your
  zip filenames.
 
  Cathy
 
  elizabeth wrote:
  My files do add the date and time each time I back them up, but the
  date and time are added 'at the end' of all the '[1]'s but before the
  .zip.
 
  EX;
  john[1][1][1][1][1]2014-05-15 07.38.06 PM.zip
 
 
  Elizabeth
 
 
  On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Cathy Pinner geneakit@gmail
  .com
  mailto:genea...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Elizabeth,
  It sounds as if you have the folder set up not to override the
  previous backup file. This is the type of addition that you get
  with Windows when you copy a file to a folder that already has a
  file of that name and you say you want to keep both.
  That's good that the previous backup isn't being overwritten, but
  it's more normal to use the naming ability in Legacy to add the
  date and time to the file name.  See the options button on the
  backup dialogue.
 
  Cathy
 
  C.G. Ouimet wrote:
   Hmm …
  
   You didn’t say your backup files had Date and Time embedded in
  them.
  
   My backup files all show as something like …
  
   CGO Master 800 2014-05-13 06.48.20 AM.zip with no [1]
  
   C.G. Ouimet
  
   Kingston ON
  
   *From:*elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com
  mailto
  :newi...@gmail.com]
   *Sent:* May 18, 2014 03:10 PM
   *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
   *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]
  
   I looked, and those options are already checked. The date and time
   appear after the [1]s in each
   file name.
  
   Elizabeth
  
   On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM, C.G. Ouimet
  c.g.oui...@outlook.com mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com
   mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com
  wrote:
  
   The Zip file is the backup. It might be because Legacy doesn’t
  want to
   overwrite the previous backup.
  
   In Legacy, go to File, then Backup. Click the Options button at the
   bottom and ensure to check the Append Date and Append Time to the
   filename.
  
   C.G. Ouimet
  
   Kingston ON
  
   *From:*elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com
  mailto:newintr@gmail
  .com mailto:newi...@gmail.com
  mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
   *Sent:* May 18, 2014 01:50 PM
   *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
   mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  

Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????

2014-05-18 Thread Cathy Pinner
Hi Elizabeth,

I'm sorry you are still confused.
Let me see if I can summarise your interesting problem.

 From your point of view, the only problem was that the backup zips were
getting an extra [1] each time you backed up.
Your file was opening fine and you were getting on with your data entry etc.

However, the cause of the extra [1] being added to your backup zip file
was that your data file was being opened from within the zip file.

I think your setting at Options  Customise - General Tab - Starting
Family File has been to open the last used file.
So on opening you didn't notice.
OR you were choosing each time which file to open and just choosing the
top on of the list not noticing it was in a very strange folder. At some
stage you had opened your file from within a zip backup file.

The confusion perhaps originally is that you thought the backup on exit
was the way your family file was saved as well as backed up.
Actually the family file saves every time you change a piece of data.
There is no need for an autosave every 5 minutes or so as it saves
immediately you click save for each person or event.

To fix the problem:

1) Decide where you want to keep your family file.  Create a new folder
if you need one.
The default for Legacy 7.5 is C:\Legacy\Data if you've installed to the
default folder.
Otherwise you may want to use Legacy\Data wherever you installed Legacy
- provided you didn't install Legacy to the Program Files folder of your
computer. Previous versions of Legacy write to the Program File and
Windows no longer allows that - I can't remember whether the change was
with XP or Vista. Legacy 8 is installed to the Program Files as it has
changed some of the ways the settings files are handled.

2)Open Legacy and go to File  Restore and choose to restore the most
recent Zip file John [1] [1]   most recent date/time.

3) Say yes if you are asked whether it's OK to close open files.

4) The restore dialogue will suggest a place and a name for the restoration.
Don't just click OK.
Change the place to the folder you decided on or created at step 1
Change the name to a new distinctive name for the Family File so you
don't get confused.

5) The file will restore and open. It should look familiar and have your
latest changes in it - but you probably want to check so you feel
confident with the new file.

6) Set Options  Customise - General Tab - Starting Family File  either
to open the last used file OR to open this particular file.

7) Use the file as normal.

8) Backup on exit as usual - but you may want to choose a new backup folder.

When you open Legacy next, it should open to your new folder and it
shouldn't have any [1]'s added to the name.
When you backup on exit next, there shouldn't be any [1]'s in the backup
file name.
The problem should be solved and you can go back to research.

Cathy

elizabeth wrote:
 I must go for now but will try to return tomorrow because I am still
 confused.

 Elizabeth



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Re: [LegacyUG] Disproved ancestors

2014-05-18 Thread J.M. Jay Ingalls
Ron,

Have not done an actual count, but have about 100 with notes in the
given name field, out of about 65,000 people. And very few will be the
ancestors of my descendants. I collect data on all Ingalls of all
spellings in the USA and Canada, warn people when I send them data that
they need to verify everything. I will not live long enough to do the
work for everyone.

The suggestion to put the notes in the given name field in the double
brackets so they will not be published is good and bad. It may look
better, but does not warn the reader that I suspect there is a problem
with the data. I believe function or usability is much more
important than beauty.

Jay
===
On 5/17/2014 8:51 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
 Jay,

 Clearly you do not publish your work, so whatever takes your fancy is OK.

 However I would not like the job of sorting it all out should you
 change your mind.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 Sent from my Xperiaâ„¢ smartphone

 J.M. \Jay\ Ingalls  jay_inga...@pipeline.com wrote:

 Pat,

 I often put a note in the given name field, such as Mary-Not Pat's
 direct ancestor. Saves a lot of time, does not require reading the notes.

 I have some I need to work on, Like John-May be wrong wife, etc.

 Fortunately, we are not limited to 12 characters, or whatever it was
 in the first genealogy programs, for the given name field!

 Jay
 =
 On 5/17/2014 7:26 AM, Michele/Support wrote:

 Pat,

 If I have done a lot of work on them I would simply unlink them and
 leave them in my file.  If they were in the same location as your
 ancestors then they still might end up being connected in some way.Â

 Â

 Michele

 Technical Support

 mich...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com

 www.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 Â

 *From:*Pat Hickin [mailto:pph...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, May 16, 2014 6:51 PM
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Disproved ancestors

 Â

 I've got a couple of what were once thought to be ancestral lines and
 have since been disproved. Â I don't want to delete them entirely and
 I'm wondering how other Legacy users handle the matter. Â I could put
 them in a separate file or leave them where they are and just
 Â unlink them so that they're no longer connected.

 Â

 I'd appreciate your thoughts/ideas. Â Thanks,

 Â

 Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] Disproved ancestors

2014-05-18 Thread Cathy Pinner
Hi Jay,

I also have a few of notes in name fields to warn the reader. For example, when 
I think I've found the parents of an ancestor, I add them, make them invisible 
so they're not published and for my use visually on the screen add to the given 
name - guess (meaning best guess rather than wild guess), possibly or probably 
depending on my evidence. When I'm almost sure I remove the invisibility but 
leave the probably to make it very obvious I'm not 100% sure of this link. I 
also, of course, put the reasoning in notes.

I agree that clarity is more important than beauty or keeping to name standards.

Cathy

J.M. Jay Ingalls  wrote:
 Ron,

 Have not done an actual count, but have about 100 with notes in the
 given name field, out of about 65,000 people. And very few will be the
 ancestors of my descendants. I collect data on all Ingalls of all
 spellings in the USA and Canada, warn people when I send them data
 that they need to verify everything. I will not li
ve long enough to do
 the work for everyone.

 The suggestion to put the notes in the given name field in the double
 brackets so they will not be published is good and bad. It may look
 better, but does not warn the reader that I suspect there is a problem
 with the data. I believe function or usability is much more
 important than beauty.

 Jay
 ===
 On 5/17/2014 8:51 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
 Jay,

 Clearly you do not publish your work, so whatever takes your fancy is OK.

 However I would not like the job of sorting it all out should you
 change your mind.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 Sent from my Xperiaâ„¢ smartphone

 J.M. \Jay\ Ingalls  jay_inga...@pipeline.com wrote:

 Pat,

 I often put a note in the given name field, such as Mary-Not Pat's
 direct ancestor. Saves a lot of time, does not require reading the
 notes.

 I have some I need to work on, Like
John-May be wrong wife, etc.

 Fortunately, we are not limited to 12 characters, or whatever it was
 in the first genealogy programs, for the given name field!

 Jay



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Re: [LegacyUG] Migrating from The Master Genealogist (TMG)

2014-05-18 Thread Jane Sarles
I have tried various work-arounds, but would really like something that
is not as labor/proficiency required.  Like a report titled,
Ahnentafel.  I am very easily confused and have some trouble with the
various options of tagging and exporting.

  I will make the suggestion, but i think I have done that before.

Jane

On 5/18/2014 8:04 PM, Cathy Pinner wrote:
 Hi Jane,
 I was about to ask what exactly you meant and whether you'd found the
 Relationship Report.

 Sending in a suggestion is a good idea.

 In the meantime you could tag and export the people you want in the
 report and use the Ancestor Book report OR if that's not picking up all
 the details you want of the family members you want added, use one of
 the Descendant reports.

 Cathy
 Sherry/Support mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com
 Monday, 19 May 2014 5:05 AM
 Send in a suggestion on the Suggestion form in Legacy on the Legacy
 Home tab or on the website I'll add it to the list for the
 programmers to consider


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
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[LegacyUG] Ahnentafel report (was: Migrating from The Master Genealogist (TMG))

2014-05-18 Thread Wendy Howard
Hi Jane,

I'm not sure what you're looking for in this report exactly (ie, what's
a 'true' Ahnentafel report, as opposed to other reports on offer?), but
I do know that there is an entry in the Legacy Help for Ahnentafel
Reports - have you seen that?

Have you tried running an Ancestor Book report?  In Legacy v8 it's under
Report  Ancestor Book.  In Legacy v7.5 it's Reports  Books/Other 
Ancestors.

You can include or exclude types of data in this report as you please.

Is this what you're looking for?  If not, what's the difference?

Kind Regards,
Wendy

Jane Sarles said the following on 19/05/2014 15:59:
 I have tried various work-arounds, but would really like something that
 is not as labor/proficiency required.  Like a report titled,
 Ahnentafel.  I am very easily confused and have some trouble with the
 various options of tagging and exporting.

I will make the suggestion, but i think I have done that before.

 Jane

 On 5/18/2014 8:04 PM, Cathy Pinner wrote:
 Hi Jane,
 I was about to ask what exactly you meant and whether you'd found the
 Relationship Report.

 Sending in a suggestion is a good idea.

 In the meantime you could tag and export the people you want in the
 report and use the Ancestor Book report OR if that's not picking up all
 the details you want of the family members you want added, use one of
 the Descendant reports.

 Cathy
 Sherry/Support mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com
 Monday, 19 May 2014 5:05 AM
 Send in a suggestion on the Suggestion form in Legacy on the Legacy
 Home tab or on the website I'll add it to the list for the
 programmers to consider


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree



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[LegacyUG] Citing source -- an easy way to clear a real mess???

2014-05-18 Thread Pat Hickin
I cannot believe that I've been using Legacy all these years and did not
know this:

The little icon on the left -- the one with 3 dashes -- that you can use to
enter the source that's on the clipboard  -- I thought it entered the
clipboard source for the name, born, died  buried fields all at one click
-- well I just discovered that when you click that icon it *also* enters
that source for very single event you have for that person!!!

*Mon dieu!! *Why does Legacy not warn us that it will do that!!??  I
ordinarily add events from a variety of sources -- and now I have to go
thru and take that citation out -- and God knows how many other individuals
I have done that to over the years!!!

If anybody has any brilliant ideas on the subject I will greatly appreciate
them!!

Pat

Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing source -- an easy way to clear a real mess???

2014-05-18 Thread Cathy Pinner
Sorry Pat.

It's always been that way. The three dashes has been explained in the Help file 
for a long time.

I know I initially thought that it also attached the source to the marriage 
details and I know I have some marriages without sources because of this. 
They're easier to find as you can source for data without sources. That's why I 
know it's been in the Help file for a long time as it's a few years since I 
discovered all data meant all individual data and marriage data wasn't 
included.

I don't think there is any easy way to fix your problem. You'll just have to go 
through and check event sources. It's a long project so you might want to set 
aside a tag to either tag or untag when you've checked - however you set it up.

I only use the 3 dashes when I'm entering a new person or haven't much data 
entered and I guess it will be quicker to remove the source from one or two 
fields to which it doesn't apply rather than to attach it individually to all 
the ones it does ap
ply to.

Cathy

Pat Hickin wrote:
 I cannot believe that I've been using Legacy all these years and did
 not know this:

 The little icon on the left -- the one with 3 dashes -- that you can
 use to enter the source that's on the clipboard  -- I thought it
 entered the clipboard source for the name, born, died  buried fields
 all at one click -- well I just discovered that when you click that
 icon it _also_ enters that source for very single event you have for
 that person!!!

 /Mon dieu!! /Why does Legacy not warn us that it will do that!!??  I
 ordinarily add events from a variety of sources -- and now I have to
 go thru and take that citation out -- and God knows how many other
 individuals I have done that to over the years!!!

 If anybody has any brilliant ideas on the subject I will greatly
 appreciate them!!

 Pat

 Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing source -- an easy way to clear a real mess???

2014-05-18 Thread Wendy Howard
But Legacy makes it VERY plain what that three-bar icon is for. I'm
sorry you have misunderstood this for so long.

It is Assigns to all non-blank fields or Add Clipboard Source to All
Used Fields and Events - I got one from the Help and the other from the
box that appeared when I hovered over the icon just now. What part of
that is unclear to you? I don't think it has changed since I came in at v5.

I never use that icon, I prefer to apply the Source Clipboard to each
item of data as I work (the single-bar icon, or Alt-2), though I can see
its attraction when you're adding a new person and have several items
from the one source.

BTW, if you prefer keyboard shortcuts to clicking with the mouse, the
equivalent to this icon is Alt-3.

Wendy


Pat Hickin said the following on 19/05/2014 16:30:
 I cannot believe that I've been using Legacy all these years and did
 not know this:

 The little icon on the left -- the one with 3 dashes -- that you can
 use to enter the source that's on the clipboard  -- I thought it
 entered the clipboard source for the name, born, died  buried fields
 all at one click -- well I just discovered that when you click that
 icon it _also_ enters that source for very single event you have for
 that person!!!

 /Mon dieu!! /Why does Legacy not warn us that it will do that!!??  I
 ordinarily add events from a variety of sources -- and now I have to
 go thru and take that citation out -- and God knows how many other
 individuals I have done that to over the years!!!

 If anybody has any brilliant ideas on the subject I will greatly
 appreciate them!!

 Pat



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