Re: [LegacyUG] uppercase surnames

2020-05-11 Thread Brian Kelly 
Not sure that there is any formal statement on use of mixed case 
surnames so here is my take on the change.


All Uppercase surnames are a holdover from the days BC (before computer) 
where genealogical records and reports were either hand written or 
typewritten. All Uppercase surnames were used to highlight and give 
emphasis to surnames making them more visible.


Nowadays it is so easy to have the computer change the display and/or 
output of surnames in all uppercase when needed that now it is just 
easier to use Initial Caps or mixed case in surnames and let the 
computer do the work of translation to uppercase when needed.


It is much more difficult to translate an all uppercase surname to mixed 
case because of surnames which have an internal uppercase letter like 
McKenzie, MacDougal VanGough etc. The computer cannot correctly change 
the case from uppercase to mixed case in those cases.


Brian Kelly

On 11-May-20 11:33 p.m., Terry Montgomery wrote:
Can someone tell me why the convention is NOT all-caps? I have just 
found it useful.


Terry Montgomery

On 12/05/2020 5:15 am, Tessa Keough wrote:
I say turn off the warning (as mentioned previously) AND you own your 
family tree(s) and those people are in your genealogy software (you 
own Legacy, it doesn't own you). If and when you want to share online 
or elsewhere and feel the need, you could switch over to Initial Cap 
for surname (or keep with All Cap). This is not one of the 
errors/problems like not using the correct date format so that 
internationally we all know what we are talking about - you do you!



/*Tessa Keough*/



On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 8:38 AM Brian Kelly > wrote:


You can turn off that warning for all by going to Tools > Potential
Problems.

Click on the Standardization tab and remove the check in the "Surname
Entered in all uppercase" box

Brian Kelly

On 11-May-20 6:53 a.m., Gillian Hakli wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I tidied up my Legacy files, combining duplicates and so on.
Everything
> is now fine except that I keep getting a red problem circle
telling me
> that my surnames are all in uppercase. But they're supposed to
be. I've
> entered them that way in Customise, Data Format 3.3 and 3.4. And
clicked
> on Apply. I've exited Legacy and gone in again, but there they
still are.
>
> Please, can you help.
>
> Gillian
>
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] uppercase surnames

2020-05-11 Thread Terry Montgomery 
Can someone tell me why the convention is NOT all-caps? I have just 
found it useful.


Terry Montgomery

On 12/05/2020 5:15 am, Tessa Keough wrote:
I say turn off the warning (as mentioned previously) AND you own your 
family tree(s) and those people are in your genealogy software (you 
own Legacy, it doesn't own you). If and when you want to share online 
or elsewhere and feel the need, you could switch over to Initial Cap 
for surname (or keep with All Cap). This is not one of the 
errors/problems like not using the correct date format so that 
internationally we all know what we are talking about - you do you!



/*Tessa Keough*/



On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 8:38 AM Brian Kelly > wrote:


You can turn off that warning for all by going to Tools > Potential
Problems.

Click on the Standardization tab and remove the check in the "Surname
Entered in all uppercase" box

Brian Kelly

On 11-May-20 6:53 a.m., Gillian Hakli wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I tidied up my Legacy files, combining duplicates and so on.
Everything
> is now fine except that I keep getting a red problem circle
telling me
> that my surnames are all in uppercase. But they're supposed to
be. I've
> entered them that way in Customise, Data Format 3.3 and 3.4. And
clicked
> on Apply. I've exited Legacy and gone in again, but there they
still are.
>
> Please, can you help.
>
> Gillian
>
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Naming Images and documents

2020-05-11 Thread Jane Linkswiler 
That is a GREAT question. And one I struggle with so I generally list them with 
my most recent genealogical interest 1st, then others, date of pic, place. I’d 
love to hear what others do.

 

Example 1: Bennett 3, Wm Robt & Icephenia KENNEDY, 1 gparents Miles & Laura 
JORDAN & 2 parents Rich. & wf Luann GAUNNT [which is a tryptich, entered 3 
times, each time with a different photo listed 1st]

 

Example 2: Taylor, Tommy R & Hope WALDEN, Bob & Helen Walden, Lyn & Gary & Lee 
Murray abt 1968 MA [this one I feel badly about as I listed my father 1st even 
tho he is not on the left side of the picture]

 

See? I’d love to know what others do.

 

Jane in Phoenix

 

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
John Faulks
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 4:47 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Naming Images and documents

 

This is a great thread and it's timely for me . I have to tidy up a bit of a 
mess and have some thoughts coming together . Many of my older family photos 
are group shots  and can have a couple of families all together . Linking one 
photo to many inside Legacy is one thing, but how might I name the photo?

 

 Thanks 

 

John Faulks
Gmail account

 

 

On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 8:39 PM Jane Linkswiler mailto:jcl...@cox.net> > wrote:

Just one last comment. One reason I don’t have folders for different types of 
documents is that if I’m looking for locations, I go to the location list.

 

Have fun, June,

 

Jane in Phoenix

 

From: LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > On Behalf Of June
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 2:50 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Naming Images and documents

 

So many different ideas that all seem to work for the people concerned. I will 
be trialling them and possible making an adjustment to find one that suits me. 

 

The consensus seems to be, find the one that works for you! Thank you everyone 
for your thoughts and ideas. I didn’t know where to start but now I have 
several ideas. I will post what I come up with.

 

June

 

From: LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > On Behalf Of Barry Godbeer
Sent: Sunday, 10 May 2020 1:07 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Naming Images and documents

 

The use of RIN numbers in identifying images and documents may have a downside 
if you are in the habit of merging individuals together with their immediate 
families were two RINs become one. If you also have set your RIN numbering to 
use “Reuse abandoned RINs” (Option 4.4) this could lead to further 
complications in your image and document identification.

 

Just a thought.

 

Barry Godbeer

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] uppercase surnames

2020-05-11 Thread Gillian Hakli 

Thank you, Tessa, that's how I see it, too.

Gillian

PS I did as Brian suggested below but by mistake replied to him alone 
instead of the whole list. Everything is fine now and just the way I 
like it.


On 11/05/2020 20:15, Tessa Keough wrote:
I say turn off the warning (as mentioned previously) AND you own your 
family tree(s) and those people are in your genealogy software (you 
own Legacy, it doesn't own you). If and when you want to share online 
or elsewhere and feel the need, you could switch over to Initial Cap 
for surname (or keep with All Cap). This is not one of the 
errors/problems like not using the correct date format so that 
internationally we all know what we are talking about - you do you!



/*Tessa Keough*/



On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 8:38 AM Brian Kelly > wrote:


You can turn off that warning for all by going to Tools > Potential
Problems.

Click on the Standardization tab and remove the check in the "Surname
Entered in all uppercase" box

Brian Kelly

On 11-May-20 6:53 a.m., Gillian Hakli wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I tidied up my Legacy files, combining duplicates and so on.
Everything
> is now fine except that I keep getting a red problem circle
telling me
> that my surnames are all in uppercase. But they're supposed to
be. I've
> entered them that way in Customise, Data Format 3.3 and 3.4. And
clicked
> on Apply. I've exited Legacy and gone in again, but there they
still are.
>
> Please, can you help.
>
> Gillian
>
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] uppercase surnames

2020-05-11 Thread Tessa Keough 
I say turn off the warning (as mentioned previously) AND you own your
family tree(s) and those people are in your genealogy software (you own
Legacy, it doesn't own you). If and when you want to share online or
elsewhere and feel the need, you could switch over to Initial Cap for
surname (or keep with All Cap). This is not one of the errors/problems like
not using the correct date format so that internationally we all know what
we are talking about - you do you!


*Tessa Keough*



On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 8:38 AM Brian Kelly  wrote:

> You can turn off that warning for all by going to Tools > Potential
> Problems.
>
> Click on the Standardization tab and remove the check in the "Surname
> Entered in all uppercase" box
>
> Brian Kelly
>
> On 11-May-20 6:53 a.m., Gillian Hakli wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I tidied up my Legacy files, combining duplicates and so on. Everything
> > is now fine except that I keep getting a red problem circle telling me
> > that my surnames are all in uppercase. But they're supposed to be. I've
> > entered them that way in Customise, Data Format 3.3 and 3.4. And clicked
> > on Apply. I've exited Legacy and gone in again, but there they still are.
> >
> > Please, can you help.
> >
> > Gillian
> >
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] uppercase surnames

2020-05-11 Thread Brian Kelly 
You can turn off that warning for all by going to Tools > Potential 
Problems.


Click on the Standardization tab and remove the check in the "Surname 
Entered in all uppercase" box


Brian Kelly

On 11-May-20 6:53 a.m., Gillian Hakli wrote:

Hello,

I tidied up my Legacy files, combining duplicates and so on. Everything 
is now fine except that I keep getting a red problem circle telling me 
that my surnames are all in uppercase. But they're supposed to be. I've 
entered them that way in Customise, Data Format 3.3 and 3.4. And clicked 
on Apply. I've exited Legacy and gone in again, but there they still are.


Please, can you help.

Gillian




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Re: [LegacyUG] uppercase surnames

2020-05-11 Thread Christopher Seward Sr. 
No judgement here, just something to think about - our genealogy data is 
not really ours.  It is a legacy for those to come after. I personally 
weigh my preferences against the "standard", keeping in mind that my 
data is there to be shared.  The more standard formats I can follow, the 
easier it is to share the data.


Christopher

On 5/11/2020 6:56 AM, gill...@saunalahti.fi wrote:
May be a convention as you say but I prefer to have them all 
uppercase, which is how they've happily been for years and years - 
until today.


On 11 May 2020 2:39 pm, Charles Hunt  wrote:

The convention is to enter surnames starting with uppercase and
rest of name lowercase. You can chose to show them as all uppercase.

Charles

On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 20:53, Gillian Hakli mailto:gill...@saunalahti.fi>> wrote:

Hello,

I tidied up my Legacy files, combining duplicates and so on.
Everything
is now fine except that I keep getting a red problem circle
telling me
that my surnames are all in uppercase. But they're supposed to
be. I've
entered them that way in Customise, Data Format 3.3 and 3.4.
And clicked
on Apply. I've exited Legacy and gone in again, but there they
still are.

Please, can you help.

Gillian


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Re: [LegacyUG] uppercase surnames

2020-05-11 Thread gilldoc 
May be a convention as you say but I prefer to have them all uppercase, which is how they've happily been for years and years - until today.On 11 May 2020 2:39 pm, Charles Hunt  wrote:The convention is to enter surnames starting with uppercase and rest of name lowercase. You can chose to show them as all uppercase.CharlesOn Mon, 11 May 2020 at 20:53, Gillian Hakli  wrote:Hello,

I tidied up my Legacy files, combining duplicates and so on. Everything 
is now fine except that I keep getting a red problem circle telling me 
that my surnames are all in uppercase. But they're supposed to be. I've 
entered them that way in Customise, Data Format 3.3 and 3.4. And clicked 
on Apply. I've exited Legacy and gone in again, but there they still are.

Please, can you help.

Gillian


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Re: [LegacyUG] uppercase surnames

2020-05-11 Thread Charles Hunt 
The convention is to enter surnames starting with uppercase and rest of
name lowercase. You can chose to show them as all uppercase.

Charles

On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 20:53, Gillian Hakli  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I tidied up my Legacy files, combining duplicates and so on. Everything
> is now fine except that I keep getting a red problem circle telling me
> that my surnames are all in uppercase. But they're supposed to be. I've
> entered them that way in Customise, Data Format 3.3 and 3.4. And clicked
> on Apply. I've exited Legacy and gone in again, but there they still are.
>
> Please, can you help.
>
> Gillian
>
>
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[LegacyUG] uppercase surnames

2020-05-11 Thread Gillian Hakli 

Hello,

I tidied up my Legacy files, combining duplicates and so on. Everything 
is now fine except that I keep getting a red problem circle telling me 
that my surnames are all in uppercase. But they're supposed to be. I've 
entered them that way in Customise, Data Format 3.3 and 3.4. And clicked 
on Apply. I've exited Legacy and gone in again, but there they still are.


Please, can you help.

Gillian


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Re: [LegacyUG] Location of Legacy Files

2020-05-11 Thread Jenny M Benson 

On 11/05/2020 01:04, Brian Kelly wrote:
Cannot remember exactly how but I think you need to right click on your 
Documents folder and change the properties to point to a new 
location.This move will affect all programs which use your Documents 
folder to store files.


Yes, right-click, select Properties and then the Location tab.  I have 
done exactly that.  I like to have all my data files on my f:\ drive, so 
moved all those System folders like Documents and Pictures.  Works fine.


-
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Re: [LegacyUG] Location of Legacy Files

2020-05-11 Thread Cathy Pinner 

Here's a full explanation of the folders Legacy uses.

I understand that those using Parallels do better when everything is on 
the Windows side of the Mac.


Legacy from version 8 on should be installed in the Program Files 
folders - the default installation.


In addition Legacy uses ...\Documents\Legacy Family Tree\_AppData\ 
folder for Legacy settings. This cannot be changed. It will be recreated 
with defaults in the computer users Documents folder wherever that may 
be. [The default in Windows 10 is C:\users\\Documents\ The 
Documents folder can be moved but you need to do this using the Tools 
Windows provides. You right click and choose Properties and then the 
Location tab.]


Legacy data is by default saved at ...\Documents\Legacy Family 
Tree\Data\ folder but can be saved anywhere and you tell Legacy the 
default Data folder at Options - Customise 6.1 Also note that 
Options-Customise 1.2 controls which file is opened when you open Legacy.


Legacy media is by default saved at ...\Documents\Legacy Family 
Tree\Media\ folder but can be saved anywhere. You tell Legacy the parent 
folder for media at Options - Customise 6.2. There is a problem if the 
path + filename gets too long so it's wise not to have too many layers 
of sub-folders.


Legacy backups by default are saved in the Data folder as that's the one 
Legacy knows about but obviously should be saved elsewhere (and a folder 
that syncs to the cloud like Dropbox is the easiest way to get the 
backup off the computer).. The backup path is saved into the Family File 
when the backup is done from File - File Backup but doesn't appear to be 
saved if you make the change when backing up on exit. [I think it is now].


Your data files can be in Dropbox or similar BUT don't have the file 
open on more than one computer at a time. AND make sure that the sync up 
from one computer is complete and the sync down to the other computer is 
complete before you close the first computer and before you open Legacy 
on the other EVERY TIME you switch computer or you'll get conflicted copies.


Cathy

Chris Hill 
Monday, 11 May 2020 2:43 PM
Yes, very easy. You can use Options and settings 6.1 and 6.2 to 
specify where you want the data and media files located, within the 
area that Windows can see.


Regards

Chris

From my Motorola G6+



Scott Hall 
Monday, 11 May 2020 7:32 AM
Thank you.  That was a clear explanation.  I wonder if I can install 
(or relocate) the Legacy folder in Documents to elsewhere.  Not a big 
deal either way.


Scott



Tessa Keough 
Monday, 11 May 2020 2:00 AM
thank you Brian Kelly for a very clear response - just opened my 
Windows File Explorer to check on this - and all is good.



/*Tessa Keough*/





Brian Kelly 
Sunday, 10 May 2020 11:43 PM
In a normal windows based computer the Legacy Family Tree folder is 
located in the user's Documents folder. It looks like your Parallels 
is using the Mac side for the user's Windows documents folder so that 
is where Legacy created your Legacy Family Tree folder to hold all the 
user related data it needs.


The sub-folders in that folder should include _AppData which Legacy 
uses for settings and working files, Data where the user's Data files 
are stored by default and a variety of other folders like Media, 
LegacyFS (used with the FamilySearch interface module), LegacyCharting 
(self-explanatory), Sample-Media (for media belonging to the Sample 
file provided with Legacy) and web (for use when creating web pages).


The first two folders you mention on the Windows side are created by 
the install program and contain the program and its support files. You 
should not attempt to make any changes to those two folders since they 
are in restricted access areas.


Brian Kelly






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Re: [LegacyUG] Location of Legacy Files

2020-05-11 Thread Chris Hill 
Yes, very easy. You can use Options and settings 6.1 and 6.2 to specify
where you want the data and media files located, within the area that
Windows can see.

Regards

Chris

>From my Motorola G6+

On Mon, 11 May 2020, 00:33 Scott Hall,  wrote:

> Thank you.  That was a clear explanation.  I wonder if I can install (or
> relocate) the Legacy folder in Documents to elsewhere.  Not a big deal
> either way.
>
> Scott
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 2:01 PM Tessa Keough  wrote:
>
>> thank you Brian Kelly for a very clear response - just opened my Windows
>> File Explorer to check on this - and all is good.
>>
>>
>> *Tessa Keough*
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 8:44 AM Brian Kelly  wrote:
>>
>>> In a normal windows based computer the Legacy Family Tree folder is
>>> located in the user's Documents folder. It looks like your Parallels is
>>> using the Mac side for the user's Windows documents folder so that is
>>> where Legacy created your Legacy Family Tree folder to hold all the user
>>> related data it needs.
>>>
>>> The sub-folders in that folder should include _AppData which Legacy uses
>>> for settings and working files, Data where the user's Data files are
>>> stored by default and a variety of other folders like Media, LegacyFS
>>> (used with the FamilySearch interface module), LegacyCharting
>>> (self-explanatory), Sample-Media (for media belonging to the Sample file
>>> provided with Legacy) and web (for use when creating web pages).
>>>
>>> The first two folders you mention on the Windows side are created by the
>>> install program and contain the program and its support files. You
>>> should not attempt to make any changes to those two folders since they
>>> are in restricted access areas.
>>>
>>> Brian Kelly
>>>
>>> On 10-May-20 11:13 a.m., Scott Hall wrote:
>>> > OK, help me out.  I'm trying to streamline my files.  Legacy seems to
>>> > have files everywhere.
>>> >
>>> > Is there a map showing where Legacy's files are stored?
>>> >
>>> > I am running Legacy on a Mac using Parallels, so some of my confusion
>>> > may relate to the emulator.
>>> >
>>> > I find them here:
>>> > * In C:/Program Files (x86) there is a "Legacy9" folder.  This looks
>>> to
>>> > be the main application with its supporting files.
>>> > * In C:/Program Data there is a "Legacy Family Tree" folder that seems
>>> > to hold nothing other than the Geographic database.
>>> >
>>> > But I also have a Legacy Family Tree folder on the Mac side in
>>> > Document.  This one is the one that baffles me, unless it has
>>> something
>>> > to do how Parallels stores the info.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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