Re: [LegacyUG] Hints

[Cathy Pinner]

The issue that Chris is discovering is that the Hint icon other than on 
Family View or Pedigree View may be out of date. Requests for hints are 
only sent from Family View and Pedigree View and it looks as though the 
hint icon on other views has a considerable lag. I'm not sure when they 
are updated.


The quickest way to force an update for the icons, if you must use them 
on Index View or Name List, is, I think, to turn off the column and then 
turn it back on (in Index View this is by customising the columns) which 
forces it to get the information again from the hints database.
I don't usually have a Hint column on Index View but did have one and 
renewed it by switching to another saved set of columns and then back to 
a set with the Hint column.


Cathy


Chris Hill 
Tuesday, 22 September 2020 12:57 AM
Hi Gillian

You might want to read this post, which I have raised on the Legacy 
Facebook page.


>
I am just back to my master PC, the other was on my laptop, and still 
running at v339. This works with my looking at my fathers hints with 
no problem. Looked at my cousins hints, with a hint searched record 
that was quite old, probably from 2019. That gets this error the first 
time, looking for it from the index


{"statusCode":400,"error":"Bad Request","message":"Invalid cookie 
header"}


Switched to the individual view and tried from there, and got the 
Loading Hints... display. Looking at the http request, they are both 
the same except that the erroring one does not have the last field for 
_k=


https://www.findmypast.com/hints-ui/#/list/d6f3c2ef-7910-4f98-9d79-cf81c16c9a19?partnerId=..&_k=ujhukh 



Looked at the hint record and it was old. Checked the Hints processing 
monitor and it showed a few waiting requests. Waited for these to 
clear. The hints flag disappeared from her record and then reappeared 
a couple of minutes later, with a current last searched date. This one 
does work, but note that the first field, which I assume is the 
individual, has changed.


https://www.findmypast.com/hints-ui/#/list/4fd010f1-807d-44c1-9ff6-f02d0e590dce?partnerId=.&_k=dqpuzw 



I assume that the partnerid identifies either me or you.

So, I think that there is a problem with old Hints records which have 
not been researched recently and might contain out of date information.

<<<

Regards

Chris




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Re: [LegacyUG] Cenotaph vs. gravestone in FAG

[Howland Davis via LegacyUserGroup]

CE:
    When a National Cemetery opened in northeast Ohio, at least one veteran was 
moved from his local cemetery to the National Cemetery.
Howland Davis

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From: CE WOOD 
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Sent: Mon, Sep 21, 2020 4:55 pm
Subject: [LegacyUG] Cenotaph vs. gravestone in FAG

 Many 
FAG memorials are cenotaphs, not gravestones. People who search cemeteries find 
them and, not knowing the genealogy of the person, mistakenly enter it as a 
gravestone. FAG asks that all cenotaphs be duly marked as such on a memorial 
page, but many people don’t follow the rule, even if they know it is a cenotaph 
– they just want to add another memorial in their list.    Cenotaph is Greek 
for “empty tomb”. Not all are single gravestones; many are monuments with 
several family members listed. I have struggled for years to get FAG to remove 
a family cenotaph that the poster refuses to admit is one. Not being 
genealogists, FAG doesn’t check accuracy, but sometimes it will change things 
when you can show them documents.    Be aware that many persons in medieval 
times were buried one place first, then moved (sometimes more than once). Also, 
many churches, abbeys, monasteries, etc., were destroyed, so are hard to find 
in FAG because posters can’t find the church, etc.    Also, many killed in 
battle or abroad, may have been brought home to be buried. Sometimes, different 
parts of the body were buried in different locations.    That’s why researching 
actual documents that mention where a person was buried is essential.    If you 
know the actual gravesite of a person, use that as the FAG Memorial# in Legacy. 
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[LegacyUG] Cenotaph vs. gravestone in FAG

[CE WOOD]

Many FAG memorials are cenotaphs, not gravestones. People who search cemeteries 
find them and, not knowing the genealogy of the person, mistakenly enter it as 
a gravestone. FAG asks that all cenotaphs be duly marked as such on a memorial 
page, but many people don't follow the rule, even if they know it is a cenotaph 
- they just want to add another memorial in their list.

Cenotaph is Greek for "empty tomb". Not all are single gravestones; many are 
monuments with several family members listed. I have struggled for years to get 
FAG to remove a family cenotaph that the poster refuses to admit is one. Not 
being genealogists, FAG doesn't check accuracy, but sometimes it will change 
things when you can show them documents.

Be aware that many persons in medieval times were buried one place first, then 
moved (sometimes more than once). Also, many churches, abbeys, monasteries, 
etc., were destroyed, so are hard to find in FAG because posters can't find the 
church, etc.

Also, many killed in battle or abroad, may have been brought home to be buried. 
Sometimes, different parts of the body were buried in different locations.

That's why researching actual documents that mention where a person was buried 
is essential.

If you know the actual gravesite of a person, use that as the FAG Memorial# in 
Legacy.


Cheers,
CE

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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with Check/Repair

[Christopher Seward Sr.]

I second this idea.  I have a similar issue.  Creating a "Find A Grave 
Memorial" event works nicely.


Ciao,

Christopher

On 9/21/2020 8:59 AM, Brian Kelly wrote:

Richard,

I would use an Event named Find A Grave for the duplicate (or for both 
if you wish) and enter only one in the FindaGrave field on the 
Individual data screen.


I have a couple of legitimate duplicates in my file as well.

For one he died in WW II and is buried in a military cemetery in 
Holland but his parents also included him on their headstone in Quebec 
as a memorial. Both sites have FindaGrave memorial numbers. I suppose 
by FindaGrave rules only the Holland Cemetery is a legitimate memorial 
because it marks the location of his burial.


The other case is an aunt of my wife. She was cremated and, because of 
family squabbles, part of her ashes were buried with her husband in 
East Springfield, MA, USA while a second packet was transported to 
Nova Scotia and buried with her parents. In this case both FindaGrave 
memorial numbers mark her resting places.


Brian Kelly

On 21-Sep.-20 1:02 a.m., Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:

Roberta,
My cousin, #4, has one in a military cemetery also. I aim to find out 
which one he is really in but I'm not sure how to record both 
profiles so that Check/Repair doesn't mess with them.


Richard Van Wasshnova




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Re: [LegacyUG] Hints

[Gillian Häkli]

Hi Chris,

Thank you very much though I found your post a bit hard to follow! But I 
think I got there in the end.


So far everything's gone well since I deleted the cookies.

Gillian


On 21/09/2020 19:57, Chris Hill wrote:

Hi Gillian

You might want to read this post, which I have raised on the Legacy 
Facebook page.


>
I am just back to my master PC, the other was on my laptop, and still 
running at v339. This works with my looking at my fathers hints with 
no problem. Looked at my cousins hints, with a hint searched record 
that was quite old, probably from 2019. That gets this error the first 
time, looking for it from the index


{"statusCode":400,"error":"Bad Request","message":"Invalid cookie 
header"}


Switched to the individual view and tried from there, and got the 
Loading Hints... display. Looking at the http request, they are both 
the same except that the erroring one does not have the last field for 
_k=


https://www.findmypast.com/hints-ui/#/list/d6f3c2ef-7910-4f98-9d79-cf81c16c9a19?partnerId=..&_k=ujhukh 



Looked at the hint record and it was old. Checked the Hints processing 
monitor and it showed a few waiting requests. Waited for these to 
clear. The hints flag disappeared from her record and then reappeared 
a couple of minutes later, with a current last searched date. This one 
does work, but note that the first field, which I assume is the 
individual, has changed.


https://www.findmypast.com/hints-ui/#/list/4fd010f1-807d-44c1-9ff6-f02d0e590dce?partnerId=.&_k=dqpuzw 



I assume that the partnerid identifies either me or you.

So, I think that there is a problem with old Hints records which have 
not been researched recently and might contain out of date information.

<<<

Regards

Chris

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To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Sent: 21/09/2020 16:48:27
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hints


 Hi Brian,

I've now tried many Hints following your advice, that is, deleted all 
cookies for fmp, and so far everything's going well. Thank you very 
very much.


Gillian

On 21/09/2020 17:08, Brian Kelly wrote:
Not any kind of expert but that message looks like a problem with 
the web browser you are using. It is reporting an error with the 
findmypast web site or with the string legacy is sending to the 
site.  Since it is reporting a bad cookie I would first try deleting 
all the cookies in your browser pertaining to findmypast.com. If 
that does not solve the problem try clearing your internet cache in 
your Browser it may be trying to re-use a bad link from your history.


Brian Kelly

On 21-Sep.-20 9:36 a.m., Gillian Häkli wrote:
Can some kind person please explain to me why I nearly always get 
this message when I try to look at a Hint:


Sometimes, but only very rarely, I do manage to get through to 
findmypast to see what the hint is.


Findmypast is the only site I have marked for hints.'

Regards,

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Re: [LegacyUG] Hints

[Chris Hill]

Hi Gillian

You might want to read this post, which I have raised on the Legacy 
Facebook page.


>
I am just back to my master PC, the other was on my laptop, and still 
running at v339. This works with my looking at my fathers hints with no 
problem. Looked at my cousins hints, with a hint searched record that 
was quite old, probably from 2019. That gets this error the first time, 
looking for it from the index


{"statusCode":400,"error":"Bad Request","message":"Invalid cookie 
header"}


Switched to the individual view and tried from there, and got the 
Loading Hints... display. Looking at the http request, they are both the 
same except that the erroring one does not have the last field for _k=


https://www.findmypast.com/hints-ui/#/list/d6f3c2ef-7910-4f98-9d79-cf81c16c9a19?partnerId=..&_k=ujhukh

Looked at the hint record and it was old. Checked the Hints processing 
monitor and it showed a few waiting requests. Waited for these to clear. 
The hints flag disappeared from her record and then reappeared a couple 
of minutes later, with a current last searched date. This one does work, 
but note that the first field, which I assume is the individual, has 
changed.


https://www.findmypast.com/hints-ui/#/list/4fd010f1-807d-44c1-9ff6-f02d0e590dce?partnerId=.&_k=dqpuzw

I assume that the partnerid identifies either me or you.

So, I think that there is a problem with old Hints records which have 
not been researched recently and might contain out of date information.

<<<

Regards

Chris

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From: "Gillian Häkli" 
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Sent: 21/09/2020 16:48:27
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hints


 Hi Brian,

I've now tried many Hints following your advice, that is, deleted all cookies 
for fmp, and so far everything's going well. Thank you very very much.

Gillian

On 21/09/2020 17:08, Brian Kelly wrote:

Not any kind of expert but that message looks like a problem with the web 
browser you are using. It is reporting an error with the findmypast web site or 
with the string legacy is sending to the site.  Since it is reporting a bad 
cookie I would first try deleting all the cookies in your browser pertaining to 
findmypast.com. If that does not solve the problem try clearing your internet 
cache in your Browser it may be trying to re-use a bad link from your history.

Brian Kelly

On 21-Sep.-20 9:36 a.m., Gillian Häkli wrote:

Can some kind person please explain to me why I nearly always get this message 
when I try to look at a Hint:

Sometimes, but only very rarely, I do manage to get through to findmypast to 
see what the hint is.

Findmypast is the only site I have marked for hints.'

Regards,

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Re: [LegacyUG] Hints

[Gillian Häkli]

 Hi Brian,

I've now tried many Hints following your advice, that is, deleted all 
cookies for fmp, and so far everything's going well. Thank you very very 
much.


Gillian

On 21/09/2020 17:08, Brian Kelly wrote:
Not any kind of expert but that message looks like a problem with the 
web browser you are using. It is reporting an error with the 
findmypast web site or with the string legacy is sending to the site.  
Since it is reporting a bad cookie I would first try deleting all the 
cookies in your browser pertaining to findmypast.com. If that does not 
solve the problem try clearing your internet cache in your Browser it 
may be trying to re-use a bad link from your history.


Brian Kelly

On 21-Sep.-20 9:36 a.m., Gillian Häkli wrote:
Can some kind person please explain to me why I nearly always get 
this message when I try to look at a Hint:


Sometimes, but only very rarely, I do manage to get through to 
findmypast to see what the hint is.


Findmypast is the only site I have marked for hints.'

Regards,

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Re: [LegacyUG] Hints

[Brian Kelly]

Not any kind of expert but that message looks like a problem with the 
web browser you are using. It is reporting an error with the findmypast 
web site or with the string legacy is sending to the site.  Since it is 
reporting a bad cookie I would first try deleting all the cookies in 
your browser pertaining to findmypast.com. If that does not solve the 
problem try clearing your internet cache in your Browser it may be 
trying to re-use a bad link from your history.


Brian Kelly

On 21-Sep.-20 9:36 a.m., Gillian Häkli wrote:
Can some kind person please explain to me why I nearly always get this 
message when I try to look at a Hint:


Sometimes, but only very rarely, I do manage to get through to 
findmypast to see what the hint is.


Findmypast is the only site I have marked for hints.'

Regards,

Gillian Hakli





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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with Check/Repair

[Brian Kelly]

Richard,

I would use an Event named Find A Grave for the duplicate (or for both 
if you wish) and enter only one in the FindaGrave field on the 
Individual data screen.


I have a couple of legitimate duplicates in my file as well.

For one he died in WW II and is buried in a military cemetery in Holland 
but his parents also included him on their headstone in Quebec as a 
memorial. Both sites have FindaGrave memorial numbers. I suppose by 
FindaGrave rules only the Holland Cemetery is a legitimate memorial 
because it marks the location of his burial.


The other case is an aunt of my wife. She was cremated and, because of 
family squabbles, part of her ashes were buried with her husband in East 
Springfield, MA, USA while a second packet was transported to Nova 
Scotia and buried with her parents. In this case both FindaGrave 
memorial numbers mark her resting places.


Brian Kelly

On 21-Sep.-20 1:02 a.m., Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:

Roberta,
My cousin, #4, has one in a military cemetery also. I aim to find out 
which one he is really in but I'm not sure how to record both profiles 
so that Check/Repair doesn't mess with them.


Richard Van Wasshnova


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Re: [LegacyUG] Hints

[Chris Hill]

I have the same error with version 9.0.0.339. I updated to version 362,
which I had been avoiding because if the issues with 361, and now get as
far as a Loading hints display from FindMyPast which had been running for a
few minutes.

So it looks like the later version has the correct security settings but
that there is an issue with FindMyPast or the Legacy parameter settings are
wrong.

Regards

Chris

>From my Motorola G6+

On Mon, 21 Sep 2020, 14:37 Gillian Häkli,  wrote:

> Can some kind person please explain to me why I nearly always get this
> message when I try to look at a Hint:
>
> Sometimes, but only very rarely, I do manage to get through to findmypast
> to see what the hint is.
>
> Findmypast is the only site I have marked for hints.'
>
> Regards,
>
> Gillian Hakli
>
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[LegacyUG] Hints

[Gillian Häkli]

Can some kind person please explain to me why I nearly always get this 
message when I try to look at a Hint:


Sometimes, but only very rarely, I do manage to get through to 
findmypast to see what the hint is.


Findmypast is the only site I have marked for hints.'

Regards,

Gillian Hakli


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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with Check/Repair

[sarah hughes]

Sorry. I found something similar lately when there was a dispute about
where a subject's father was actually buried. On Google it came up with one
on FAG, but when I went there and logged in, I found that the individual
seemed to have 2 different headstones in 2 different cemetaries, albeit 2
cemetaries near each other in the same town. We know for a fact (as have
seen it) which entry seems to be correct, but it is still rather worrying
and confusing!

On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 at 08:24, sarah hughes  wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 at 06:03, Richard Van Wasshnova <
> rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Roberta,
>> My cousin, #4, has one in a military cemetery also. I aim to find out
>> which one he is really in but I'm not sure how to record both profiles so
>> that Check/Repair doesn't mess with them.
>>
>> Richard Van Wasshnova
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 3:57 PM Roberta Schwalm 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Richard, re #4:  my father is buried in one cemetery while my mother is
>>> buried in a plot my husband and I bought back in the mid-1990s.  His
>>> mentioned on our headstone as the husband of my mother.  Also, he has 2
>>> headstones in the cemetery where he was buried:  one installed by Veterans
>>> Affairs Canada and the other installed by my mother and I where it is
>>> indicated that Dad was a British Home Child.
>>>
>>> Roberta Schwalm
>>> Gatineau, Quebec, Canada
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 5:50 PM Richard Van Wasshnova <
>>> rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I added 3197 FindAGrave numbers to the new (Legacy9) box on the bottom
 using Access. When I first ran Check/Repair it found 26 duplicates and
 deleted those 26.
 Reasons for duplicates:
 1. Mostly they were the same citation entered for burial and death. I
 removed the citation from all but burial.
 3. Some people had 2 FindAGrave profiles. I suggested FAG merges.
 3. Some people had 2 FindAGrave profiles in different cemeteries?
 4. One guy has a profile with a headstone in 2 different cemeteries.

 The problem is after fixing most Check/Repair still finds and removes
 the same as from the first run. I suspect I just need to delete some file.
 CheckRepair.usr maybe?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with Check/Repair

[sarah hughes]

On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 at 06:03, Richard Van Wasshnova <
rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Roberta,
> My cousin, #4, has one in a military cemetery also. I aim to find out
> which one he is really in but I'm not sure how to record both profiles so
> that Check/Repair doesn't mess with them.
>
> Richard Van Wasshnova
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 3:57 PM Roberta Schwalm 
> wrote:
>
>> Richard, re #4:  my father is buried in one cemetery while my mother is
>> buried in a plot my husband and I bought back in the mid-1990s.  His
>> mentioned on our headstone as the husband of my mother.  Also, he has 2
>> headstones in the cemetery where he was buried:  one installed by Veterans
>> Affairs Canada and the other installed by my mother and I where it is
>> indicated that Dad was a British Home Child.
>>
>> Roberta Schwalm
>> Gatineau, Quebec, Canada
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 5:50 PM Richard Van Wasshnova <
>> rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I added 3197 FindAGrave numbers to the new (Legacy9) box on the bottom
>>> using Access. When I first ran Check/Repair it found 26 duplicates and
>>> deleted those 26.
>>> Reasons for duplicates:
>>> 1. Mostly they were the same citation entered for burial and death. I
>>> removed the citation from all but burial.
>>> 3. Some people had 2 FindAGrave profiles. I suggested FAG merges.
>>> 3. Some people had 2 FindAGrave profiles in different cemeteries?
>>> 4. One guy has a profile with a headstone in 2 different cemeteries.
>>>
>>> The problem is after fixing most Check/Repair still finds and removes
>>> the same as from the first run. I suspect I just need to delete some file.
>>> CheckRepair.usr maybe?
>>>
>>> Richard Van Wasshnova
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