Re: [LegacyUG] Which file do I choose?

[Gail Morrow]

I learn so much from other folks's questions. and Chris never fails to give
detailed advice, as do so many others in this group.  I am in the debt of
all. 

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 11:55 AM Chris Hill 
wrote:

> These seem to be the normal backup files, which are usually named with the
> legacy database name from the .fdb and followed by a date and time stamp
> and with extension .zip. Effectively, you can delete any of these, though I
> would normally keep the last few plus ones later back if needed. If you are
> using media files, these would create their own backups with -media on the
> end and you might need to restore these separately (I have never had to do
> this).
>
> You can recover these through the normal Restore step in Legacy.  If
> needed you can open the default sample database and use that to get to the
> Restore step.
>
> Regards
>
> Chris
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Kir Rich" 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
> Sent: 23/10/2020 14:42:10
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Which file do I choose?
>
> Each time I sign out from Legacy, I am asked to backup any changes I made.
> This makes a new updated file with the latest information. I now have a
> folder with an overabundance of files.
> Can the old ones be deleted?
>
> My second question is, recently had to have a new OS installed due to a
> locked up computer. So the old data was saved in a separate location,
> reinstalled the OS and now I don't know which of the many data files to
> click on that I want to reinstall.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
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[LegacyUG] Gail Morrow: Moving Media List

[Gail Morrow]

Thanks to Holly Nelson,  Cathy Pinner,  Chris Hill, Susan Weaver  Pete
Beatty
for all the advice in answer to my question.
I will  study all of it before  I do anything.
I love this forum,  and the time the members spend helping others.
 Kudos to all.

Gail Morrow
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Media File.

[Gail Morrow]

Thank you Cathy Pinner for your reply to my query of 4 Sep.

I am not so good at describing issues so hope this makes it clearer.

I have two laptops... one with windows 10 and one with windows 7 .  Trying
to get used to W10  but not there just yet.
I mostly work on the windows 7 laptop for Legacy, but have it installed on
both laptops.
The data file plus the media file is not as up to date on Window 10  as the
other laptop.

I believe W7 laptop is going to quit working so am trying to get things
transferred to other laptop.
I don't have trouble with backups or using usb's etc..  I have many newer
additions to the media file  and don't know how to replace the media file
on Windows 10 with the one from  Windows 7 laptop.
I hope this is clearer then before but if not I apologize in advance.

Gail Morrow

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On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 9:23 PM F B  wrote:

> Cathy P I have it down finely and after use on my old Lab Top Now I have
> it on my new Lab Top But I have not found how to pay for  it yet so a old
> Man would say I still need help I guess. Even my bold Legacy still works. I
> am hopeing that Since I use Trend Micro no more Hacking on Both of my Lab
> Tops. Except
>
> The Old one has a lot of more Information then the new. And I do not know
> how to import the other all the way from 2013 any help would be great. When
> you get to be 90 years old it is harder to remember what I learn 2013 and
> you and Geoff have help me many times And Thanks you and Goff too .
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
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> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  on
> behalf of Cathy Pinner 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 3, 2019 9:58:07 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Media File.
>
> Gail,
>
> You'll have to tell us more.
> Where is the Media List? What do you mean by W10 and W7.
> I think you are saying you have a new computer and that you don't have
> all your media on your new computer?
> See if this article helps.
> http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00505/
>
> If not, please tell us more.
>
> Cathy
>
>
> > Gail Morrow <mailto:olivanna...@gmail.com >
> > Wednesday, 4 September 2019 3:59 AM
> > Hello all... I would like to replace my Media list in W10 with the
> > more   upto date Media List I have in W7.  Any thoughts on on how to
> > do this would be appreciated.
> >
> > Gail Morrow
> >
> >
>
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[LegacyUG] Legacy Media File.

[Gail Morrow]

Hello all... I would like to replace my Media list in W10 with the more
 upto date Media List I have in W7.  Any thoughts on on how to do this
would be appreciated.

Gail Morrow
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Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Family File

[Gail Morrow]

Thanks Chris and  Ian.
Chris you helped me when I merged but I didn't take the same precautions
that you and Ian mentioned in this mail.
I still have that merge but haven't used it,   am still operating on my
eight files.
I should re-read all the advice and try again.  The problem was all the
same names, so many, now I know I can handle them incrementally.  I will
keep you both updated on whatever transpires in this field.
So lovely to have help so readily available.

Gail Morrow


On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 2:45 PM Ian Macaulay  wrote:

> And be very careful,  Watch the dates and connections as you merge.   I
> had one just last night two Williams in the same family, same parents
> different dates.
> One is probably an error but  the point is be careful.
>
> Ian
>
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 2:41 PM Chris Hill 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> One thing to do when merging the files is to resolve the duplicates,
>> which the merge should identify as it passes through them, during the merge
>> process so that you can actually combine them into a single person,
>> selecting which data you want from the pair. That way the new file will not
>> have duplicates. Each merge may through up additional duplicates but if
>> your original data was reasonably accurate you should find that the
>> duplicates are easy to resolve.
>>
>> I have done this merging two trees from my cousin for her parent's
>> lines into my master tree for the entire family. Basically, her mother's
>> line was a duplicate of mine and a large part of her father's was already
>> in mine. It was just a case of going through the duplicates as the merge
>> through them up. Probably took a few days - one tree per day, plus restarts
>> if you go wrong, so take backups after each merge so that you can step back.
>>
>> But do not try to just merge them and then try to sort out the
>> duplicates.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Gail Morrow" 
>> To: "Legacy User Group" 
>> Sent: 16/08/2019 18:51:16
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Family File
>>
>> Thanks  Cindy and Jenny:
>> I will take all your advice to heart, the videos are a good idea as well.
>> The merge I did was successful and I saved it, but am not using it as
>> there are so many
>> people with the same first and last names that it will take a long time
>> to decide which ones
>> are now in the one file many times over.
>>
>> Gail Morrow
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 3:08 PM magnoliasouth 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> For some reason, I cannot see the original post, just Jenny's reply
>>> and a snippet of the original in her reply.
>>>
>>> I would say that if you want to merge them and it didn't work, perhaps
>>> you should figure that out first. IF that's what you really want to
>>> do, keyword: IF. I tried looking for a good video, but 'merging files'
>>> comes up with zero results. Maybe someone on the list know of a good
>>> video. I am a visual learner so videos are best for me, but not
>>> always.
>>>
>>> There are two short pages and one longer one that may be helpful. I
>>> would suggest reading them in the following order, so you do not
>>> become overwhelmed. Take your time and play with some dummy files
>>> before doing it. Legacy comes with a dummy file and you can use that
>>> to merge some of your family so you can figure out how it works.
>>>
>>> One tip: Create a NEW family file. Duplicate the other 8 files (yes, I
>>> know, lots of extra files, but this saves the original 8 files
>>> unblemished).  Now merge Duplicate 1 into the NEW file. Then repeat
>>> with the other 7 files. Does that make sense? My personal rule is to
>>> NEVER merge an original file into another original file. Always use a
>>> NEW file and duplicates. This way if there is an error, you can simply
>>> start over with step one again without any loss of data or wrong
>>> people being merged.
>>>
>>> I will warn you, it is quite the task, especially if each file
>>> contains a large num

Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Family File

[Gail Morrow]

Thanks  Cindy and Jenny:
I will take all your advice to heart, the videos are a good idea as well.
The merge I did was successful and I saved it, but am not using it as there
are so many
people with the same first and last names that it will take a long time to
decide which ones
are now in the one file many times over.

Gail Morrow




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On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 3:08 PM magnoliasouth 
wrote:

> For some reason, I cannot see the original post, just Jenny's reply
> and a snippet of the original in her reply.
>
> I would say that if you want to merge them and it didn't work, perhaps
> you should figure that out first. IF that's what you really want to
> do, keyword: IF. I tried looking for a good video, but 'merging files'
> comes up with zero results. Maybe someone on the list know of a good
> video. I am a visual learner so videos are best for me, but not
> always.
>
> There are two short pages and one longer one that may be helpful. I
> would suggest reading them in the following order, so you do not
> become overwhelmed. Take your time and play with some dummy files
> before doing it. Legacy comes with a dummy file and you can use that
> to merge some of your family so you can figure out how it works.
>
> One tip: Create a NEW family file. Duplicate the other 8 files (yes, I
> know, lots of extra files, but this saves the original 8 files
> unblemished).  Now merge Duplicate 1 into the NEW file. Then repeat
> with the other 7 files. Does that make sense? My personal rule is to
> NEVER merge an original file into another original file. Always use a
> NEW file and duplicates. This way if there is an error, you can simply
> start over with step one again without any loss of data or wrong
> people being merged.
>
> I will warn you, it is quite the task, especially if each file
> contains a large number of people with similar names. Mine does, so it
> takes very careful merging.
>
> 1.
> https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2018/05/tuesdays-tip-merging-files-advanced.html
>
> 2.
> https://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2009/05/legacy-tip-how-to-combine-multiple-family-files-into-one.html
>
> 3. https://legacyfamilytree.com/TourMerge.asp
>
> You may want to submit a suggestion for a video on this, here:
> https://familytreewebinars.com/suggest.php?val=merging%20files
>
> On the subject of backups, if you don't subscribe to the media backup
> it's just text so should only take a few minutes. If you backup your
> media and you have a LOT of media, like I do (but I do not subscribe
> to media backups, I use Google for that), then it will take a very
> long time, just like Google does.
>
> Good luck and we're here for you, if you have problems.
>
> Cindy Lloyd
>
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 9:34 AM Jenny M Benson 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > I have eight different Family Files,  the merge I tried didn't work for
> > > me so I am still faced with backing up eight families each time and
> that
> > > is time consuming.
> > > Is there any way to backup all eight at once?
> >
> > Do you really need to back up all 8 at once?  As a general rule, You
> > only need to back up a file when you have made changes to it.
> >
> > And how long does it take to backup?  I just backed up my family file
> > (admittedly, not media also) and it took considerably less than a minute.
> >
> > But apart from those observations I don't have an answer to your
> > specific question.
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[LegacyUG] (no subject)

[Gail Morrow]

Backing up Family Files.

Hi Folks,
I haven't posted a query for a long time.  I hate showing my lack of skill,
ha ha.
This question  is likely impossible but thought I would ask anyway.
I have eight different Family Files,  the merge I tried didn't work for me
so I am still faced with backing up eight families each time and that is
time consuming.
Is there any way to backup all eight at once?

Cheers,
Gail Morrow
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[LegacyUG] Error 402

[Gail Morrow]

Hi everyone... not a big problem. but trying to delete Legacy2/usr
group and find
that there is only usr no #2 designation.Don't want to lose data.

Cheers, Gail Morrow
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Re: [LegacyUG] Different family files

[Gail Morrow]

Thank you so much Chris  I am worried about trying this but with
backups, I should be alright.  Cross my fingers.
You have made the process clear (I think, ha ha) and I will let you know
how it goes. Again thanks for  your time.

Gail Morrow
olivanna...@gmail.com

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 5:51 PM, Chris Hill 
wrote:

> Hi
>
> Yes, you should be merging the multiple files into one. Apart from the
> issue of making multiple backups you are also having to maintain
> information on the same person, who is common between multiple parts of the
> family, twice. And if you match my tree you will find out that there are
> multiple people who are in multiple parts of the trees.
>
>  The first thing to do is to take a full set of backups for all of the
> trees, and then make NO changes to them until you are complete. Secondly,
> decide which one of them is the MASTER and make a copy of it as the new
> tree.
>
> You will then add each of the other trees to the new tree. In your case
> the number of duplicated people should be minimal and you should be able to
> run the standard merge function. For the duplicated people it should then
> ask you to merge the records into one merged person. For each of those you
> will need to decide which parts of each person you need to keep, if they
> are different.
>
> After completing each merge you need to verify that it is good and take
> another backup of the merged file, because you might need to step back and
> rerun again.
>
> Finally, at the end check through to see if you have multiple trees in the
> new model. Ideally you should not, unless you had them as independent trees
> in the original files, but it is worth looking and then decide what do with
> them - delete or find out whether they are a duplicate.
>
> Now you just have one tree to maintain and no duplicate people.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Regards
>
> Chris
>
> From my Motorola G6+
>
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2018, 20:17 ,  wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Folks... I am hoping someone will have the patience to tell me if I
>> should add all my different family files into just the one.
>> If this is the best way to go and  will some information and media
>> overlap and cause difficulties.
>> I have eight files eg. Husbands maternal and another paternal... same for
>> my families. Takes time to backup each one.
>> How to go about merging all files.
>>
>> Gail Morrow
>> olivanna...@gmail.com
>>
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