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Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle

2023-12-22 Thread sarrazingeorges

What about PDP8 (Digital) and programming using wires 

 

De : LegacyUserGroup  De la part de L S
Envoyé : 22 décembre 2023 15:53
À : Legacy User Group 
Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle

 

Lol. Sometimes I miss DOS and PLC!

 

On Fri, Dec 22, 2023, 3:48 PM mailto:jcl...@cox.net> > wrote:

Whew! You have been having fun. Thanks for such detail. It was quite a story. 
I, too, have been using a computer since before Windows. Dos was interesting.

 

Jane in Phoenix

 

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle

 

According to their old blog, when MyHeritage purchased Legacy, they created a 
synch feature. 

  
https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/legacy-family-tree-has-a-new-home-with-myheritage.html

 

It is NOT POSSIBLE to synch Legacy with Ancestry.com because Legacy is now 
owned by Ancestry's competitor, MyHeritage. RootsMagic is also not able to 
synch with Legacy because they are both competitor software. You can download a 
gedcom from any of those sites and upload the gedcom to any of the other sites 
but it will not synch - so no media will transfer. 

 

You can only synch with Ancestry to RootsMagic or Family Tree Maker. Or, you 
can synch with Legacy to MyHeritage.

 

I can't say any one is better than another. I only used Ancestry.com as my 
primary because that is what I started with after FamilySearch.org, in the late 
1990s, got rid of paf files. By then, I had used a few software programs on 
cartridges for TI-84 computers but none transferred to the internet so I went 
with FamilySearch because it was free. Then they got rid of paf files and I 
once again had to start over. I then used Rootsweb, which Ancestry bought. I 
decided to just pay for Ancestry annually, which is pricey, and keep my tree 
there thinking they would keep being innovative so maybe I wouldn't have to 
keep reinventing my tree. 

 

Then, Ancestry got a little wonky and was up for sale and I got scared that I'd 
lose everything. I purchased Family Tree Maker for the synching with Ancestry. 
Then FTM stopped working. Ancestry blamed FTM and vice versa. I then bought 
RootsMagic to synch and I quit using FTM.  RootsMagic had glitches so I 
decided, when I retired, I would scan everything I had and save by the persons 
noted in what I was scanned (like letters/diaries/divorce docs you can't get 
online, etc.). Lots, but not all, I had already saved to Ancestry's Gallery but 
I wanted everything in one place by the person that I could always access if 
any of the sites closed. I realized that no software was ever going to work 
well permanently. I also was living in Florida and was afraid that I'd lose 
everything in the event of a hurricane. We had already lost everything once but 
it was when we were young and didn't affect the genealogy artifacts. I had so 
much stuff it would have filled our entire car with no room for anything else. 
It took me 6 months of daily scanning to get it all saved. I keep that in 
Dropbox (a cloud) that I pay yearly for the account and in a stand alone hard 
drive. The stand alone hard drive gets updated annually and I give it to one of 
my kids to keep at their house. 

 

All was well until it wasn't! (we moved from Florida so I now don't worry about 
moving the stuff but the next generation will want things digitally so it 
wasn't a waste of time). I decided last January to update my tree on 
MyHeritage. I had gotten a deal on the membership because I am a member of  the 
National Genealogical Society. Then MyHeritage offered me a deal for 10 years 
which worked out to less than $100/year. I had not had a problem in the past 
with deleting a tree and updating with a new gedcom from Ancestry but couldn't 
do it in January. It wouldn't let me delete the old or add a new one on 
MyHeritage. I decided to wait until after I travelled in April to mess with it 
further. I tried repeatedly in May and then spoke in person in June with David 
Horowitz at a conference I attended. He told me I'd lose all the DNA matches (I 
also had uploaded my DNA from Ancestry and 23andMe) which was fine with me as I 
figured I would just re upload those, too. He was unable to delete my tree. 
Told me to bring my gedcom on a thumbdrive and he'd upload it. He couldn't do 
it. I gave him permission to copy my gedcom and take it to IT. By August, I 
hadn't heard anything from anyone at MyHeritage so I wrote to him. He forwarded 
my concern to someone in IT who deleted my tree and told me to use Family Tree 
Builder to upload but it didn't work. We went round and round and then he gave 
me to someone else who didn't read any of the email chain and told me to do

Re: [LegacyUG] French quotation marks

2023-09-01 Thread sarrazingeorges

I reported this problem years ago.

The problem still present.

 

Georges

 

De : LegacyUserGroup  De la part de
E. Nadeau
Envoyé : 1 septembre 2023 11:02
À : 'Legacy User Group' 
Objet : [LegacyUG] French quotation marks

 

Good morning,

 

Legacy version 9.0.0.443

 

As a French language user I write all my data in Legacy in French.

 

If I use the French quotation marks «...» to underline a quote, the text in
quotation marks does not appear in the event reports. If I use English
quotation marks "..." everything is correct.

Does Legacy consider French quotation marks as a double bracket [[...]] and
sees it as private text?

Is this normal?

 

Thank you for considering my request.

 

Estelle Nadeau

nade...@hotmail.com  

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Re: [LegacyUG] TR: Duplicate

2022-11-01 Thread sarrazingeorges

This abbreviation is common in genealogy publication.

 

Georges

 

De : LegacyUserGroup  De la part de 
Debbie Jorgenson
Envoyé : 1 novembre 2022 11:02
À : Legacy User Group 
Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] TR: Duplicate

 

Interesting find question and I do not have an answer to your question. I would 
point out that at the current time, I have not run across this as a generally 
accepted dating system for genealogy purposes. Perhaps in the future, it will. 

 

Debbie

  
 

 

On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 8:55 AM mailto:sarrazingeor...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Would it be possible to accept the abbreviation fl in the date field?

 

 

Floruit

>From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Floruit (  /ˈflɔːrju.ɪt/; abbr. 
fl. or occasionally flor.; from   
Latin   floruit 'he/she 
flourished') denotes a date or period during which a person was known to have 
been alive or active.  
[1]  [2] In English, the 
unabbreviated word may also be used as a   
noun indicating the time when someone flourished. 
 [1]

Etymology and use[ 
 edit]

  Latin: flōruit is the 
third-person singular perfect active indicative of the Latin verb flōreō, 
flōrēre "to bloom, flower, or flourish", from the noun flōs, flōris, "flower". 
 [3] 
 [2]

Broadly, the term is employed in reference to the peak of activity for a person 
or movement. More specifically, it often is used in  
 genealogy and historical writing when 
a person's birth or death dates are unknown, but some other evidence exists 
that indicates when they were alive. 
 [4] For example, if 
there are   wills  
 attested by John Jones in 
1204, and 1229, and a record of his marriage in 1197, a record concerning him 
might be written as "John Jones (fl. 1197–1229)".

The term is often used in   art 
history when dating the career of an artist. In this context, it denotes the 
period of the individual's artistic activity. 
 [5]

In some cases, it can be replaced by the words "active between [date] and 
[date]", depending on context and if space or style permits. 

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Re: [LegacyUG] TR: Duplicate

2022-11-01 Thread sarrazingeorges

Would it be possible to accept the abbreviation fl in the date field?

 

 

Floruit

>From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Floruit (  /ˈflɔːrju.ɪt/; abbr. 
fl. or occasionally flor.; from   
Latin   floruit 'he/she 
flourished') denotes a date or period during which a person was known to have 
been alive or active.  
[1]  [2] In English, the 
unabbreviated word may also be used as a   
noun indicating the time when someone flourished. 
 [1]

Etymology and use[ 
 edit]

  Latin: flōruit is the 
third-person singular perfect active indicative of the Latin verb flōreō, 
flōrēre "to bloom, flower, or flourish", from the noun flōs, flōris, "flower". 
 [3] 
 [2]

Broadly, the term is employed in reference to the peak of activity for a person 
or movement. More specifically, it often is used in  
 genealogy and historical writing when 
a person's birth or death dates are unknown, but some other evidence exists 
that indicates when they were alive. 
 [4] For example, if 
there are   wills  
 attested by John Jones in 
1204, and 1229, and a record of his marriage in 1197, a record concerning him 
might be written as "John Jones (fl. 1197–1229)".

The term is often used in   art 
history when dating the career of an artist. In this context, it denotes the 
period of the individual's artistic activity. 
 [5]

In some cases, it can be replaced by the words "active between [date] and 
[date]", depending on context and if space or style permits. 

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Re: [LegacyUG] TR: Duplicate

2022-10-20 Thread sarrazingeorges

I will open a new Mantis

De : LegacyUserGroup De la part de
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Envoyé : 19 octobre 2022 14:21
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Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] TR: Duplicate

Georges, you might want to send in a suggestion to Legacy about including
alternate names in duplicates.

For example, I have 4 direct descendants from my great-great-grandfather Mathew
Snoddy. His firstborn son was William and was always known as William. The
first William named his first son William who was known as Willy. William
(Willy) named his son William who was known as Bill. William's (Bill)
firstborn son was also given the name William but we always knew him as Billy.
You can just imagine the confusion when official first names had to be used!

Roberta Schwalm

On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 8:58 AM mailto:sarrazingeor...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Merci Cathy

Thank you for the answer. That's what I thought and I think it's a bug. Other
names should be considered. Let's take an example. I use one of my noble
ancestors because it's easier to illustrate.

William X (Occitan: Guillém X; 1099 – 9 April 1137), called the Saint, was Duke
of Aquitaine, Duke of Gascony, and Count of Poitou (as William VIII) from 1126
to 1137.

I then enter William X as the primary name and William VIII as the alternate
name. The next time I enter William VIII's name, Legacy won't recognize it as a
duplicate unless it includes the other names in its check.

Georges

De : LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > De la part de Cathy Pinner
Envoyé : 18 octobre 2022 20:26
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Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] TR: Duplicate

Georges,
A full merge has criteria that you can use as they are or modify.
What is taken into account to suggest possible duplicates depends on them.
You may be asking whether AKAs are also considered. I don't think so.

Cathy

sarrazingeor...@gmail.com wrote:

In merging, when searching for duplicate, are the other names taken into
account?

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Re: [LegacyUG] TR: Duplicate

2022-10-19 Thread sarrazingeorges

Merci Cathy

 


Thank you for the answer. That's what I thought and I think it's a bug. Other 
names should be considered. Let's take an example. I use one of my noble 
ancestors because it's easier to illustrate.


William X (Occitan: Guillém X; 1099 – 9 April 1137), called the Saint, was Duke 
of Aquitaine, Duke of Gascony, and Count of Poitou (as William VIII) from 1126 
to 1137.


I then enter William X as the primary name and William VIII as the alternate 
name. The next time I enter William VIII's name, Legacy won't recognize it as a 
duplicate unless it includes the other names in its check.


 

Georges

 

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Cathy Pinner
Envoyé : 18 octobre 2022 20:26
À : Legacy User Group 
Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] TR: Duplicate

 

Georges,
A full merge has criteria that you can use as they are or modify.
What is taken into account to suggest possible duplicates depends on them.
You may be asking whether AKAs are also considered. I don't think so.

Cathy

sarrazingeor...@gmail.com   wrote:





In  merging, when searching for duplicate, are the other names taken into
account?

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[LegacyUG] TR: Duplicate

2022-10-18 Thread sarrazingeorges



In  merging, when searching for duplicate, are the other names taken into
account? 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Name Question

2022-06-15 Thread sarrazingeorges

I found on a European site the following suggestion.

Three situations are possible: the first name is unknown, the surname is 
unknown or the first name and the surname are unknown.

For the sake of precision, I therefore indicate the exact nature of my 
information.

1 - Missing first name, I indicate missing first name followed by the surname.

2 - Missing surname, I indicate the first name followed by missing surname.

3 - Both (first name and surname) are absent, I leave it blank.

 

Georges

 

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Jane Linkswiler
Envoyé : 14 juin 2022 16:40
À : 'Legacy User Group' 
Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Name Question

 

I leave blank

 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 7:58 AM
To: Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: [LegacyUG] Name Question

 

What do people use when they don't know the first name or the last name? I want 
to be consistent, not sure if I should use Uknown, Ukn, UkFn, etc. Curious to 
hear what others use, thanks, Fran

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Re: [LegacyUG] Unmarried Unions

2022-04-08 Thread sarrazingeorges

In French we use the expression épouse/conjointe, spouse/partner and no 
distinction if married or not.

If legally married, then there is a date for marriage,

 

De : LegacyUserGroup  De la part de 
Ian Macaulay
Envoyé : 8 avril 2022 19:45
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Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Unmarried Unions

 

There is a Not Married check box in Marriage information section.   I just put 
the name in as a Spouse and then check off the no record of Marriage.

 

 

Ian

 

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Is there a way in the Legacy software to add a “significant other” girlfriend 
that

is not married to the man even though they have been together for years?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Events descriptions

2021-01-11 Thread sarrazingeorges

Bonjour Brian

What you mention is a completely different problem that I would like to come 
back to later. 

What interests me here is the labeling of the event section in the ancestry 
books. 
There is a lot of text and it is difficult to navigate. I think, that adding 
the name of the person would make it clearer. 

This is why I thought about modifying the individual label by including the 
name of the person 
Événements importants de la vie de  «b»[Nom]«/b»
and the label 2, for the events related to the marriage, with the name of the 
couple. 
Événements  importants reliés au mariage/union de «b»[CoupleNoms]

It works for the husband, but not for the wife. It doesn't work for couples. 
If it works for the husband, it should work for other situations. That's why, I 
think, this is a bug.

Georges

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De : LegacyUserGroup  De la part de 
Brian Kelly
Envoyé : 10 janvier 2021 17:25
À : legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Events descriptions

Georges,

In the report I only see one event linked to their marriage: *  Baudouin de 
Dudzeele et Marguerite van der Stove ont détenu des droits de propriété - à 
Montréal.

The event "Notes relatives à leur mariage" appears to be an event you assigned 
to the wife. Did you mean to do that or should you have made that an event for 
the marriage?

Brian Kelly

On 08-Jan.-21 4:32 p.m., sarrazingeor...@gmail.com wrote:
> Thank you Brian
> 
> It worked for most events.
> 
> Georges
> 
> Another small problem
> 
> The format of the book reports is far from clear. It is not easy to 
> differentiate between the events associated with the spouse, with his 
> wife and those associated with the couple.
> 
> So I identified each in the wording.
> For personal events, I have: Événements importants de la vie de 
> «b»[Nom]«/b»
> :
> And for events associated with the marriage, I have: Événements 
> importants reliés au mariage/union de «b»[CoupleNoms] :
> 
> It works for the groom, but not for the bride or for marriage-related 
> events (see example below).
> Is this a bug?
> 
> 
> Baudouin de Dudzeele
> 
> 
>Première génération
> 
>1.  Baudouin de Dudzeele,(1) fils de Sohier de Dudzeele (1) et 
> Prénom inconnu
>   de Voormezeele,(1) est décédé le 3 avr. 1366.(1)
> 
>   Événements importants de la vie de Baudouin de Dudzeele :
> 
>   *  Titre porté par Baudouin de Dudzeele : Chevalier. (1)
>   *  Titre porté par Baudouin de Dudzeele : Seigneur de Dudzeele, 
> Bonhem, et
>  Westkapelle. (1)
>   *  Baudouin de Dudzeele a détenu des droits de propriété - he 
> recovered
> 
>  from the count of Flanders the fiefs of Dudzeele, Bonhem, 
> Westkapelle,
>  and 80 livres parisis of rent attributed to the tonlieu of 
> Bruges from
>  his mother's unidentified sister. He also recovered the fief of
>  StPierre and Uutkerke along with six sub-fiefs, located in the
>  seigneurie of Dudzeele. (1)
>   *  Titre porté par Baudouin de Dudzeele : en 1296, Bruges, Flandres
>  occidentales, Be. Échevin. (1)
>   *  Il a accompli une mission en 1300. He was one of the fifty noble
>  Flemish hostages who accompanied Guy de Dampierre, count of 
> Flanders,
>  into captivity in France. Baudouin was imprisoned at the Chateau de
>  Nanette, Auvergne, France. The surviving hostages were only
>  returned to Flanders after the 1305 Treaty of Athies-sur-Orge.
> However,
>  he may have switched sides as early as 1303 when a "Boudewijn van
>  Dudzele" is listed as a Flemish supporter of the king of 
> France (1)
> 
>Baudouin a épousé Marguerite van der Stove,(1) fille de Guillaume 
> van der Stove.
> 
>Événements importants reliés à leur mariage/union :
> 
>*  Baudouin de Dudzeele et Marguerite van der Stove ont détenu des 
> droits de
>   propriété - à Montréal.
> 
>   Événements importants de sa vie :
> 
>   *  Notes relatives à leur mariage  - according to Piot, he was 
> married to
>  MARGUERITE VAN DER STOVE, but the brass plaque in the church of
>  Dudzeele records his wife as Marye von Belle. (1)
>   *  Marguerite van der Stove a détenu des droits de propriété - 
> his wife
> 
>  survived him and became dame of Dudzelle by dower and she 
> recovered the
>  fief of Moerkerke. At her death Elisabeth de Dudzeele became his
>  principle heir. (1)
> 
> --
> --
> 
> Sources
> 
> 1. Dulong, John P., The Dudzeele and Straten Ancestry of Catherine de 
> Baillon,
>   Part II, Michigan Habitant Heritage, vol 32, no. 4 (octobre 2011), p.
> 156
>   à 166. Récupéré de
> http://habitant.org/baillon/Dudzeele%20Article%202.pdf.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> part de Brian Kelly Envoyé : 8 janvier 2021 13:03 À : 
>

Re: [LegacyUG] Events descriptions

2021-01-08 Thread sarrazingeorges

Thank you Brian

It worked for most events.

Georges

Another small problem 

The format of the book reports is far from clear. It is not easy to
differentiate between the events associated with the spouse, with his wife
and those associated with the couple.

So I identified each in the wording.
For personal events, I have: Événements importants de la vie de «b»[Nom]«/b»
:
And for events associated with the marriage, I have: Événements importants
reliés au mariage/union de «b»[CoupleNoms] :

It works for the groom, but not for the bride or for marriage-related events
(see example below).
Is this a bug?

Baudouin de Dudzeele

  Première génération

  1.  Baudouin de Dudzeele,(1) fils de Sohier de Dudzeele (1) et Prénom
inconnu 
 de Voormezeele,(1) est décédé le 3 avr. 1366.(1) 

 Événements importants de la vie de Baudouin de Dudzeele :

 *  Titre porté par Baudouin de Dudzeele : Chevalier. (1)
 *  Titre porté par Baudouin de Dudzeele : Seigneur de Dudzeele, Bonhem,
et 
Westkapelle. (1)
 *  Baudouin de Dudzeele a détenu des droits de propriété - he recovered

from the count of Flanders the fiefs of Dudzeele, Bonhem,
Westkapelle, 
and 80 livres parisis of rent attributed to the tonlieu of Bruges
from 
his mother's unidentified sister. He also recovered the fief of 
StPierre and Uutkerke along with six sub-fiefs, located in the 
seigneurie of Dudzeele. (1)
 *  Titre porté par Baudouin de Dudzeele : en 1296, Bruges, Flandres 
occidentales, Be. Échevin. (1)
 *  Il a accompli une mission en 1300. He was one of the fifty noble 
Flemish hostages who accompanied Guy de Dampierre, count of
Flanders, 
into captivity in France. Baudouin was imprisoned at the Chateau de 
Nanette, Auvergne, France. The surviving hostages were only
returned to Flanders after the 1305 Treaty of Athies-sur-Orge.
However, 
he may have switched sides as early as 1303 when a "Boudewijn van 
Dudzele" is listed as a Flemish supporter of the king of France (1)

  Baudouin a épousé Marguerite van der Stove,(1) fille de Guillaume van der
Stove. 

  Événements importants reliés à leur mariage/union :

  *  Baudouin de Dudzeele et Marguerite van der Stove ont détenu des droits
de 
 propriété - à Montréal.

 Événements importants de sa vie :

 *  Notes relatives à leur mariage  - according to Piot, he was married
to 
MARGUERITE VAN DER STOVE, but the brass plaque in the church of 
Dudzeele records his wife as Marye von Belle. (1)
 *  Marguerite van der Stove a détenu des droits de propriété - his wife

survived him and became dame of Dudzelle by dower and she recovered
the 
fief of Moerkerke. At her death Elisabeth de Dudzeele became his 
principle heir. (1)

Sources

1. Dulong, John P., The Dudzeele and Straten Ancestry of Catherine de
Baillon, 
 Part II, Michigan Habitant Heritage, vol 32, no. 4 (octobre 2011), p.
156 
 à 166. Récupéré de
http://habitant.org/baillon/Dudzeele%20Article%202.pdf.

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Envoyé : 8 janvier 2021 13:03
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Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Events descriptions

Georges,

Do you switch languages between French and English with your file while
testing? Changing language will reset all Event Definitions to the Legacy
Default wording.

You can copy Events Definitions between files:
1. Restore your backup with the correct wording with a new file name so it
does not overwrite your existing file.
2. Open the file with incorrect wording
3. Go to View > Master Lists > Event Definitions 4. Click on Options and
Select Import from the menu 5. Use the Browse button to select the file you
restored in Step 1 6. Select the Event Definition List 7. Click Import
Lists.
The Event Definitions from your restored file will replace the reworded ones
in your corrupted file.

Brian Kelly

On 08-Jan.-21 11:56 a.m., sarrazingeor...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> The text of all my events has been modified. Since I don't want to 
> redo everything, I think to  go to one of my backups to copy the file 
> with the correct description and replace the faulty file. Which file 
> contains the event description.
> 
> Georges
> 
> 

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[LegacyUG] Events descriptions

2021-01-08 Thread sarrazingeorges



The text of all my events has been modified. Since I don't want to redo
everything, I think to  go to one of my backups to copy the file with the
correct description and replace the faulty file. Which file contains the
event description.

Georges


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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Cloud

2020-12-17 Thread sarrazingeorges

Interesting comparison between Carbonite and Google Cloud

When comparing Carbonite vs Google Drive, the Slant community recommends Google
Drive for most people. In the question“What are the best cloud backup
services?” Google Drive is ranked 2nd while Carbonite is ranked 9th. The most
important reason people chose Google Drive is:

Google account holders and non-holders can be set to access and/or collaborate
on files/folders in real-time. Additionally, you can find files you've shared
not only by filename but by person you've shared the files with.

De : LegacyUserGroup De la part de
Gary 'n Mic McFall
Envoyé : 17 décembre 2020 08:02
À : Legacy User Group
Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Cloud

I use basic Carbonite. A couple of clarifications:

1. Unless I pause Carbonite, my files are continuously backed up through
the day, not once per day.
2. Video files are backed up automatically per instructions on this page,
"https://support.carbonite.com/articles/Personal-Mac-Windows-Adding-Excluded-Files-to-Your-Backup;.
It's a one-time manual process per video file type (avi, mov, etc.), but it
works flawlessly.

Gary

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 2:11 PM Robin McCarthy mailto:rpubge...@cox.net> > wrote:

Gloria, et al:

I used Carbonite for many years. Their customer service and support is great
and easy to reach. They were a great help when I needed to migrate my data to a
new computer. One of the things that attracted me to Carbonite was the
continual backup as I worked on documents. Over time, it seemed their practice
changed and my modified computer files were not getting backed up immediately.
I contacted Support to ask about this and was told that backups were done once
every 24 hours. Since I don't leave my computer on overnight, I was manually
telling Carbonite to back up files I modified before shutting down the computer.

Additionally, Carbonite does not automatically back up video files (MP4). You
must individually select each one and add it to your backup. Carbonite also
discontinued their feature of allowing mobile devices (phones and tablets) to
be backed up as part of a subscription. Finally, Carbonite requires a separate
subscription for each computer you want to back up.

For these reasons, I switched to iDrive two years
ago. They offer 5 terabytes of backup storage for $69.95/year and unlimited
devices, including mobile devices. They currently have a special offer of just
$6.95 for your first year of service. Their service offers continual or
scheduled backup, as well as many of the same things Carbonite offers. I have a
desktop computer, two laptops, my tablet, and cell phone being backed up and
have only used 5% of my allocated 5 terabytes. FYI, I have no affiliation with
iDrive other than being a satisfied customer.

I also use Dropbox, but mostly as short-term storage for items I need to access
from anywhere or while in-transit awaiting transfer to one of my other
computers. You can get an additional 500 MB of free storage at Dropbox for each
person you refer and signs up for their own free account. As a result, I now
have 8 GB of free storage at Dropbox.

Dropbox, Google Drive, OneDrive (Microsoft) and others of this ilk are not true
backup services. They are just cloud storage similar to an external hard drive,
but on another company's servers. You must proactively choose to move files to
any of those services to keep them backed up. They are similar to what you do
if you use an external drive; the difference being your data is stored on
another company's servers away from your home. The advantages being that you
can access your data from any computer anywhere (which, by the way you can also
do with Carbonite, iDrive, Backblaze, etc.) and, if your house burns down, your
data is still protected. For this reason, some people use these cloud storage
services for their genealogy software program database (Legacy, RootsMagic,
Family Tree Maker, etc.), assuming the software supports such a configuration.

It is good to have both a traditional cloud backup service like Carbonite,
iDrive, Backblaze, etc. in addition to cloud storage. In fact, IT people
advocate a 3-2-1 backup plan:

* 3 copies of your backups, one copy on your primary computer
* 2 backup copies on 2 different media (external hard drive, flash drive,
cloud storage, CD, DVD)
* 1 backup copy offsite (cloud storage, safe deposit box, someone else's
home)
* LOCKSS - "Lots of copies keeps stuff safe"

They each have their place and purpose in our genealogy work.

Robin McCarthy

On December 16, 2020 at 8:37 AM Gloria DeSousa mailto:gdesou...@gmail.com> > wrote:

YAY! That's what I want to hear. Thank you Gary :-) Do you know if there's a
good reason to have DropBox's extended storage for a fee in addition to
Carbonite? I'm wondering what the perks are, if any.

Thank you,

Gloria

On Wed, Dec

Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

2020-05-12 Thread sarrazingeorges


I have both, but feel more comfortable with emails. I'm barely taking a look at 
the Legacy section of Facebook.

Georges

-Message d'origine-
De : LegacyUserGroup  De la part de 
Michele Lewis
Envoyé : 12 mai 2020 11:32
À : Legacy User Group 
Objet : [LegacyUG] Facebook

I encourage you to join our Legacy User Group on Facebook. I know there are 
some of you that say there is no way you will ever get on Facebook but you can 
join Facebook and set your privacy so that you won’t get friend requests and no 
one can see what you post. The group itself is private so anything you post 
there isn’t seen by anyone except the other group members. 

You are missing a lot of stuff by not being there. I can’t cross post 
everything that I post there and I post quite a bit. I readily admit that my 
attention is with the Facebook group because I can do so many more things there 
than I can here.

You can use screenshots and video clips which you can’t do here. You can 
explain a problem better with a screenshot and you can understand solutions to 
problems better as well with screenshots.

I (and others) can upload files. For example, periodically I upload a pdf that 
has clickable links to all of the Tuesday's Tips from the Legacy 
Newsletter/Blog. John Lisle upload a great series with how to work with the 
custom geo code files in Legacy. 

The Facebook group is searchable and you can also use hashtags. You will see 
announcements from the staff when we need to get  important information out. 
All events and webinars are announced to give you a heads up without having to 
monitor the webinar webpage. When an update is released it is announced here 
immediately.

Another advantage, which I honestly wish I didn't have to use, I and the other 
admins/moderators can delete posts. I can also stop the commenting on a post if 
I need to. On the mailing list if someone posts something against the rules 
there isn't much I can do about it. I can remove the person but the posts stay 
and conversations go on and on that really need to be nipped. Even when I tell 
people enough is enough it goes on. That doesn't happen on Facebook.

I monitor the list pretty much all of my waking hours. We have beta testers and 
power users that are monitoring the list when I actually sleep  

As of right now this mailing list has 1531 member. The Facebook group has 
21,941. The Facebook group has 5 administrators and 2 moderators. It is also 
monitored by several staff members and some of our top beta testers and 
translators. 

I hope I see more of you there.

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG®
Legacy Educator
Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com  
www.legacyfamilytree.com   




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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding a narrative event

2019-08-21 Thread sarrazingeorges

Create an event.

Georges Sarrazin

-Message d'origine-
De : LegacyUserGroup  De la part de
James & Judith Novinger via LegacyUserGroup
Envoyé : 21 août 2019 10:35
À : 'Legacy User Group' 
Cc : James & Judith Novinger 
Objet : [LegacyUG] Adding a narrative event

Folks,
I have been recording the basic US Census data using the "Notes" section
within the "Census" event in Legacy 9.0 and get the usual formatted
sentence, "He appeared in the ... ", in my reports.  Additionally, I write a
narrative based upon observations taken from this census data.  Some of
these narratives are several paragraphs long.   I created a "Census
Narrative" event for this purpose that lists the census date and a formatted
sentence that I created.  The event definition for "if only date filled" is:
"The following narrative interpretation may be written from data recorded on
the [Date] Census sheet. [CR], [Notes].  I insert written narrative in the
"Notes" section of the event.  Unfortunately, I cannot get the actual
narrative that is inserted into the "Notes" section of the event to appear
in reports. All I get is the sentence "The following narrative
interpretation may be written from data recorded on the [Correct date]
Census sheet."

What am I doing wrong?  Is there a better method for adding my census date
narratives to an individual?
Thanks
JIM

  



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Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

2019-08-07 Thread sarrazingeorges

In the French group, we faced this kind of problem many years ago. In addition,
there was the problem of GPS location errors for France and the indication of
departments were missing. Only administrative regions were indicated and these
regions were erroneous since the restructuring of the regions by the French
government.

We redid everything for France, Belgium and Québec (Our approach has also been
used by the Portuguese group) and took the opportunity to use indicators after
the name of a place to clarify what it was.

For example, we use parentheses after the name of a place to indicate a parish.

Tilbury East {Chatham-Kent} (Saint-Pierre), Kent, Ontario, Canada

We use location names as they exist in the old documents. Curley brackets are
added to indicate the current name.

Tilbury East {Chatham-Kent} (Saint-Pierre), Kent, Ontario, Canada

The list of places therefore contains two or more entries for certain places -
A reference with the old name and another with the new name.

In some cases, it is necessary to specify the nature of a place - island, cape,
etc. Brackets are used.

Texas [State], United States

Sarthe [Département], Pays de la Loire, France

This system works very well for us and meets the criteria for referencing a
place.

I mention our experience as an example, hoping that some of our solutions can
serve as suggestions.

Georges

De : LegacyUserGroup De la part de
Christopher Seward Sr.
Envoyé : 7 août 2019 08:42
À : legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

Just an interjection - the standard is that the last 4 fields of the location
are "city, county, state, country". It s also standard to use other data in
front of those 4 (e.g. neighborhood, school district, etc). It's the last 4
that location services look at.

On 8/6/2019 10:26 PM, Jerry wrote:

In my opinion, we should be cognizant of the fact our records are going to be
seen all over the globe. Therefore, IN would never be acceptable to me - just
my opinion. And by utilizing

, , Indiana, United States(of America not needed, but USA is also
an abbreviation and should be avoided, in my opinion, and easy to fix with a
FIND AND REPLACE in Legacy.)

This allows the index system to PERFECTLY sort your records by every criteria
(city, county, state, country) or equivalent. Without this consistency, you
will never get well designed indices (indexes) for your records, particularly
if you have a website. Thanks for listening!

Jerry Boor
https://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org

On 08/03/2019 15:07, James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup wrote:

What does not make sense is seeing something like: , , , Indiana, United
States of America. when a simple IN would do. Or: , , , Berlin, Democratic
Republic of Germany. You can find whatever available record in Berlin today
regardless if it was Prussia, Imperial Germany, Natzi Germany, East Germany or
West Germany or Occupied American Sector, French Sector, or British Sector, or
Federal Rpublic of Germany. This junk belongs in the notes not in the primary
entry.

Hoosierly yours,

James G. Hermsen

8108 Laura Lynne Lane

Indianapolis, IN 46217

317-679-1466 cell

317-881-4600 land line

On ‎Saturday‎, ‎August‎ ‎03‎, ‎2019‎ ‎09‎:‎22‎:‎00‎ ‎AM‎ ‎EDT, Christopher
Seward Sr wrote:

James, I understand where you're coming from. I just think that handling data
in a manner that deviates from the standard is inviting data integrity issues.
As I said, the choice is yours. Just be aware of the lasting issues it will
cause for those who come after.

Christopher

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 4:59 AM James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup
mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
wrote:

Exactly my point. Putting historical location in the notes maintains all the
information one needs and still be sensible and useful to family members. If
people import information without looking at the notes, then they are not being
a good genealogist. It tells me that they just copy things for numbers, not
for reliable and useful information to share.

Hoosierly yours,

James G. Hermsen

8108 Laura Lynne Lane

Indianapolis, IN 46217

317-679-1466 cell

317-881-4600 land line

On ‎Friday‎, ‎August‎ ‎02‎, ‎2019‎ ‎08‎:‎51‎:‎50‎ ‎AM‎ ‎EDT, Bill Hoff
mailto:bh...@mchsi.com> > wrote:

Then one cannot find on a map if historic locations used. With many relatives
in West Virginia I have this problem. WV did not become a state until June 20,
1863. On top of that many counties within the state were divided over many
years, far too many for me to recall them all. Then there is the problem of
knowing locations but not dates so one cannot be certain of entries

Bill

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:15 PM, Christopher Seward Sr. mailto:csewar...@gmail.com> > wrote:

You are free to record as you choose, but

Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

2019-08-04 Thread sarrazingeorges

Excellent 


The discussion may be only academic.

Legacy offers two fields for location. In the first (location) each element 
should be indicated throughout - not CA, but California or Canada. The second 
called Short Location Name is the place, it seems to me, where abbreviations 
are used.

 

Georges

 

De : LegacyUserGroup  De la part de 
Andrew Robbie
Envoyé : 4 août 2019 12:30
À : 'Legacy User Group' 
Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

 

If you want to abbreviate then you can always use the short location name to 
include abbreviated locations (e.g. MA, USA) and then configure that to be 
displayed in main location fields on Family View for example.

 

Just my $0.02…

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > On Behalf Of Kevin Ferguson
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 8:18 AM
To: Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

 

In my opinion I would use the full name not abbreviations. Electrons are cheap 
enough to go with a full name. I see no reason to shorten anything is genealogy 
and bring potential confusion to the reader. That is just my opinion. There 
really is no right or wrong, just whatever suits you.

 

Kevin

 

www.abbydalesystems.com  

 

Numbers 6:24-26

 

  _  

From: LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > on behalf of James G. 
Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 5:13 AM
To: Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Cc: James G. Hermsen mailto:jherm...@yahoo.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania 

 

CA is the official Government abbreviation for California, used most often in 
postal addresses and locations.

 

 

Hoosierly yours,

 

James G. Hermsen

8108 Laura Lynne Lane

Indianapolis, IN 46217

 

317-679-1466 cell

317-881-4600 land line

 

 

On ‎Saturday‎, ‎August‎ ‎03‎, ‎2019‎ ‎09‎:‎23‎:‎27‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EDT, Anne Hildrum 
mailto:ahild...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Well isn't CA an Acronym. 

 

Ane

 

From: LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > On Behalf Of Ian Macaulay
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 10:51 PM
To: Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

 

I Live in CA, Not CaliforniaIMHO Acronyms are not proper English, and it 
confuses your Neighbors.

 

 

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 3:14 PM James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup 
mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> > 
wrote:

I never had a Gedcom file not accept any location file whether it had 
Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN, or even Indianapolis, IN. not to mention 
Indianapolis, xxx Township, Marion County, Indiana, United States of America.  
You soon get the point that the latter is the creation of someone who thinks 
that they need to police something totally not needed by anyone with common 
sense, or a tad bit of education.

 

Hoosierly yours,

 

James G. Hermsen

8108 Laura Lynne Lane

Indianapolis, IN 46217

 

317-679-1466 cell

317-881-4600 land line

 

 

On ‎Saturday‎, ‎August‎ ‎03‎, ‎2019‎ ‎09‎:‎43‎:‎25‎ ‎AM‎ ‎EDT, 
mailto:sarrazingeor...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Christopher

I agree with you. 

My suggestion of putting the present name between curly brackets after the 
referenced location name is simply an easy way to translate old location name 
into present day name and it is accepted by the different Gedcom programs.

 

Georges

 

 

De : LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > De la part de Christopher 
Seward Sr
Envoyé : 3 août 2019 09:21
À : Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

 

James, I understand where you're coming from. I just think that handling data 
in a manner that deviates from the standard is inviting data integrity issues. 
As I said,  the choice is yours. Just be aware of the lasting issues it will 
cause for those who come after.

 

Christopher 

 

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 4:59 AM James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup 
mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> > 
wrote:

Exactly my point.  Putting historical location in the notes maintains all the 
information one needs and still be sensible and useful to family members.  If 
people import information without looking at the notes, then they are not being 
a good genealogist.   It tells me that they just copy things for numbers, not 
for reliable and useful information to share.

 

Hoosierly yours,

 

James G. Hermsen

8108 Laura Lynne Lane

Indianapolis, IN 46217

 

317-679-1466 cell

317-881-4600 land line

 

 

On ‎Friday‎, ‎August‎ ‎02‎, ‎2019‎ ‎08‎:‎51‎:‎50‎ ‎AM‎ ‎EDT, Bill Hoff 
mailto:bh...@mchsi.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Then one cannot find on a map if historic locations used. With many relatives 
in West Virginia I have

Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

2019-08-03 Thread sarrazingeorges

Below is an example for the city of Charlesbourg that was merged with Quebec
City. (Note: the numbers in the second field correspond to the unique code that
identifies the city of Quebec – not essential but useful for locations with the
same name but from different areas)

Charlesbourg {Québec}, 23027, Capitale-Nationale, Québec, Canada

Georges

De : LegacyUserGroup De la part de
Connie
Envoyé : 3 août 2019 10:18
À : Legacy User Group
Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

Thanks for all the info & suggestions. I did not know about curley brackets so
that will be a great help.

Thank you everryone.

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 9:43 AM mailto:sarrazingeor...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Christopher

I agree with you.

My suggestion of putting the present name between curly brackets after the
referenced location name is simply an easy way to translate old location name
into present day name and it is accepted by the different Gedcom programs.

Georges

De : LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > De la part de Christopher
Seward Sr
Envoyé : 3 août 2019 09:21
À : Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

Christopher

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 4:59 AM James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup
mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
wrote:

Hoosierly yours,

James G. Hermsen

8108 Laura Lynne Lane

Indianapolis, IN 46217

317-679-1466 cell

317-881-4600 land line

On ‎Friday‎, ‎August‎ ‎02‎, ‎2019‎ ‎08‎:‎51‎:‎50‎ ‎AM‎ ‎EDT, Bill Hoff
mailto:bh...@mchsi.com> > wrote:

Bill

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:15 PM, Christopher Seward Sr. mailto:csewar...@gmail.com> > wrote:

You are free to record as you choose, but keep in mind that if you publish &
share this information, your method goes against the standard, and can cause
issues.

An example for me was importing a person's info into my file. I kept getting
import errors stating the the location (birth place) did not exist on that date
(birth date). Now I have an issue, since this place not only didn't exist when
this person was born, but when it did exist, it was in a different country than
when he was born, thus making him appear to be of one heritage, but was
actually another.

I recommend ALWAYS putting the correct location in, and putting the current
name of the location in the notes.

On 8/1/2019 4:41 PM, James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup wrote:

Yes, but in the notes. Most people I share my information with want to know
where the place is now. They, like Trump, have no regard for history, and
those who know their history, already know what the original name is. Looking
for documents, the current place will know what jurisdiction they once were
governed by. It is all about being usable for current people. Otherwise, we
would all be recording everying in Latin like they once did.

Hoosierly yours,

James G. Hermsen

8108 Laura Lynne Lane

Indianapolis, IN 46217

317-679-1466 cell

317-881-4600 land line

On ‎Thursday‎, ‎August‎ ‎01‎, ‎2019‎ ‎01‎:‎22‎:‎29‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EDT,
sarrazingeor...@gmail.com
wrote:

I think one should always the name of a location the way it is indicated in the
documentation.

If the name has change or if two locations have been merge, I use curly
brackets with the new name after the old name.

Ex. Romorantin {Romorantin-Lanthenay}, 41194, Loir-et-Cher, Centre-Val de
Loire, France

(Note : I use 5 fields)

Georges

De : LegacyUserGroup
De la part de James G. Hermsen via
LegacyUserGroup
Envoyé : 1 août 2019 09:26
À : mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup

Cc : James G. Hermsen
Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Location names

Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

2019-08-03 Thread sarrazingeorges

Christopher

I agree with you.

Georges

De : LegacyUserGroup De la part de
Christopher Seward Sr
Envoyé : 3 août 2019 09:21
À : Legacy User Group
Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

Christopher

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 4:59 AM James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup
mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
wrote:

Hoosierly yours,

James G. Hermsen

8108 Laura Lynne Lane

Indianapolis, IN 46217

317-679-1466 cell

317-881-4600 land line

On ‎Friday‎, ‎August‎ ‎02‎, ‎2019‎ ‎08‎:‎51‎:‎50‎ ‎AM‎ ‎EDT, Bill Hoff
mailto:bh...@mchsi.com> > wrote:

Bill

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:15 PM, Christopher Seward Sr. mailto:csewar...@gmail.com> > wrote:

You are free to record as you choose, but keep in mind that if you publish &
share this information, your method goes against the standard, and can cause
issues.

I recommend ALWAYS putting the correct location in, and putting the current
name of the location in the notes.

On 8/1/2019 4:41 PM, James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup wrote:

Hoosierly yours,

James G. Hermsen

8108 Laura Lynne Lane

Indianapolis, IN 46217

317-679-1466 cell

317-881-4600 land line

On ‎Thursday‎, ‎August‎ ‎01‎, ‎2019‎ ‎01‎:‎22‎:‎29‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EDT,
sarrazingeor...@gmail.com
wrote:

I think one should always the name of a location the way it is indicated in the
documentation.

If the name has change or if two locations have been merge, I use curly
brackets with the new name after the old name.

Ex. Romorantin {Romorantin-Lanthenay}, 41194, Loir-et-Cher, Centre-Val de
Loire, France

(Note : I use 5 fields)

Georges

De : LegacyUserGroup
De la part de James G. Hermsen via
LegacyUserGroup
Envoyé : 1 août 2019 09:26
À : mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup

Cc : James G. Hermsen
Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

I always use the current geographic location and name today in each entry and
in the notes, remark that the geographic name and country was different then
than it is today. That way when a grandchild (or anyone) wants to find the
place on a map is able to do so. Prussia is very hard to find, if you did not
know where to look. Same thing with names of cities whose name has changed.
Stalingrad, Linengrad don't make sense for someone born after the Cold War.
Peking vs. Bejing. Same thing.

Hoosierly yours,

James G. Hermsen

8108 Laura Lynne Lane

Indianapolis, IN 46217

317-679-1466 cell

317-881-4600 land line

On ‎Thursday‎, ‎August‎ ‎01‎, ‎2019‎ ‎08‎:‎43‎:‎54‎ ‎AM‎ ‎EDT, mvmcgrs--- via
LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> > wrote:

Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

2019-08-01 Thread sarrazingeorges

I think one should always the name of a location the way it is indicated in the
documentation.

If the name has change or if two locations have been merge, I use curly
brackets with the new name after the old name.

Ex. Romorantin {Romorantin-Lanthenay}, 41194, Loir-et-Cher, Centre-Val de
Loire, France

(Note : I use 5 fields)

Georges

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James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup
Envoyé : 1 août 2019 09:26
À : mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup
Cc : James G. Hermsen
Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

Hoosierly yours,

James G. Hermsen

8108 Laura Lynne Lane

Indianapolis, IN 46217

317-679-1466 cell

317-881-4600 land line

On ‎Thursday‎, ‎August‎ ‎01‎, ‎2019‎ ‎08‎:‎43‎:‎54‎ ‎AM‎ ‎EDT, mvmcgrs--- via
LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> > wrote:

I hope you are not inserting the the added information if it is not in the
document. The jurisdictions change over time. In the US what was a county in
1850 may be another county in 1860 and still another county by 1870. The house
did not move but the boundaries did.

Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, Certified Genealogist Emeritus
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CG or Certified Genealogist is a service mark of the Board for Certification of
Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified genealogists after periodic
competency evaluation, and the board name is registered in the US Patent &
Trademark Office.

In a message dated 8/1/2019 6:24:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,
wrlinh...@gmail.com writes:

I do agree.

My standard is: [1. local jurisdiction/repository i.e.township, village,
city, etc], 2.County, 3.State, 4.Country

and apply to other countries similarly by always using three commas for all
locations [usually each has a repository of genealogical data] . The entry
might between comma's might be null if I don't have the information. For
example born in USA might be ", , , USA". I know I have some research to do
but I only record what I have from that source.

For folder hierarchy and some naming situations I reverse the order but always
hold to 4 elements for location. I don't believe I have ever had an exception.
I am sure I will learn about one here. So far this works for me.

Bill

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:20 AM Roberta Schwalm mailto:robertaschw...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I do the same thing, Shirley. Most of my ancestors are from Scotland, Ireland,
England, Germany and a spattering of French. The only difference is I use
"province" instead of State.

On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 9:05 PM Shirley Crampton mailto:scshenders...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I use Village, County, State, Country. Hopefully there is no more than 1
village of the same name in the County. If the place is rural then I put the
name of the township in the first position.

On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 5:47 PM Connie Laubach mailto:bluecorab...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Trying to decide how to input the location names – I have townships that are
made up of villages and boroughs. How are others handling it?

I have thought of the following:

Village, township, county, state, United States

township-village, country, state, United States (I like this as all villages
within the township would be listed together)

Thank you, Connie.

Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

2019-08-01 Thread sarrazingeorges

But keep in mind that in many countries more than 4 fields are needed.

Georges

De : LegacyUserGroup De la part de
Linda Greethurst
Envoyé : 1 août 2019 09:23
À : Legacy User Group
Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

Like the others, I do use the 4 comma separations - the majority of the time.
I was taught to always enter the location as it was called AT THE TIME OF THE
EVENT. I have many locations that I cannot fill the 4 sections because the
location didn't adhere to that structure - it was a territory, a plantation, a
hundred, a colony! Or even the parish was the record keeper of the larger area.

But humans just love to set up jurisdictions and then apply laws. For a record
to survive it had to be kept at some level which was located someplace. The
local jurisdictional name is what needs to be identified. Everybody who lived
in that locality knew that jurisdiction - it didn't have to be named on every
document. That would depend on the reason for the document: Goverment record
such as land or court usually, church records not so much. Then, if need be,
use the wonderful, copious places called notes Legacy has built in to the
program to enter an explanation regarding that location at that time.

There is not a rule that you HAVE TO fill every blank spot in the location
fields.

Linda in Iowa

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:43 AM mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup
mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
wrote:

Marie

In a message dated 8/1/2019 6:24:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,
wrlinh...@gmail.com writes:

I do agree.

My standard is: [1. local jurisdiction/repository i.e.township, village,
city, etc], 2.County, 3.State, 4.Country

Bill

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:20 AM Roberta Schwalm mailto:robertaschw...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I do the same thing, Shirley. Most of my ancestors are from Scotland, Ireland,
England, Germany and a spattering of French. The only difference is I use
"province" instead of State.

On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 9:05 PM Shirley Crampton mailto:scshenders...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I use Village, County, State, Country. Hopefully there is no more than 1
village of the same name in the County. If the place is rural then I put the
name of the township in the first position.

On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 5:47 PM Connie Laubach mailto:bluecorab...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Trying to decide how to input the location names – I have townships that are
made up of villages and boroughs. How are others handling it?

I have thought of the following:

Village, township, county, state, United States

township-village, country, state, United States (I like this as all villages
within the township would be listed together)

Thank you, Connie.

Re: [LegacyUG] Address Information

2018-07-24 Thread sarrazingeorges

I use parentheses after the name of the city\village for churches. This way,
I keep together all the churches from the same city. I also determine the
exact GPS location of every church.

 

Georges

 



 

De : LegacyUserGroup  De la part de
Jane Linkswiler
Envoyé : 24 juillet 2018 02:29
À : 'Legacy User Group' 
Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Address Information

 

Great idea!!!

 

From: LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > On Behalf Of CE WOOD
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 10:01 AM
To: Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Address Information

 

Your plethora of "St. Church" locations is easily solved by putting the Town
first - "Bamburgh Church of St. Mary" or "Bamburgh St. Mary's Church".

 

That also keeps report indices sorted by town.

 

 

CE

 

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From: LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > on behalf of Chris Hill
mailto:chris.hill.11he...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 4:26 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Address Information 

 

Hi Cathy

 

That was pretty well what I had suspected. It almost seems that the
developers only built half of the system with dealing with locations/places
vs addresses, or just added addresses as a later extension.

 

I started using the locations to locate a physical area such as a
Village or Town / / County / Country (being UK based and based on the
GeoLocation list), with occasional extensions to add further sub-units, such
as Hatcham, New Cross, , Surrey, England where Hatcham, Surrey would be
misleading. 

 

I then started finding references to churches, as in baptisms and
marriages, and started adding those to the location list, and my current
locations list is around 2500 entries, of which 200 or so start with St
church / location. I rather suspect that this is what most users do. But
this started to become more complex, especially as those entries were
included in the Location index in reports at the building level.

 

So I then started looking at the Address fields, which happily show up
as an icon on the marriage and events, or as Address.. option against birth,
baptism, death and buried entries. Now, as I am working through my database,
I am moving all of the entries in Location that refer to a building, or
vessel, into the Address entries, where I can be specific to the building or
church by street and location. Currently I have nearly 500 churches, or
equivalent, and more than 100 other addresses. The reverse is that I have
removed many of those from the Locations list since they map to a single
location.

 

My feeling is that I am working the 'right' way to record Addresses as
being different from Locations. but that the system, while supporting both,
does not have sufficient support for addresses or integration between
addresses and locations.

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

-- Original Message --

From: "Cathy Pinner" mailto:genea...@gmail.com> >

To: "Legacy User Group" mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >

Sent: 23/07/2018 03:28:57

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Address Information

 

Chris,

Searching on Marriage Address isn't available.

 

I think the only thing you can do is work from the Master List for Event
Addresses (View - Master Lists - Addresses - Event) and the Show List
options there.

 

OR, as you say, go direct to the Access database and use SQL since you
appear to know how. So long as you make a backup before you do this, you can
always recover if you don't get it right.

 

Put in a suggestion to include Addresses in the Search options for Marriage.

 

;) I don't use Event Addresses in Legacy. The tools for Locations are far
better.

Because I don't use them, I rarely think of asking for them to be improved.
I leave that to those that do use them.

Nothing I do depends on keeping to the artificial 4 location field idea
(which works for most USA locations but not for those in Australia or
England where the majority of my research is) so I enter locations from
smallest unit to country and sort the location list right to left.

 

Cathy

 

Chris Hill 

Sunday, 22 July 2018 11:29 PM

Hi Jenny

 

No, that does not work and gives very odd responses. The problem is that
I need to look at the Addresses with the small house icon and not at the
Place of the event or marriage.

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

Jenny M Benson 

Sunday, 22 July 2018 10:23 PM

 

I don't think I'm quite sure exactly what you want to search for, but will
searching for a Marriage with Marriage Place empty AND a secondary condition
of Marriage with Marriage Event-Place not empty do what you need?

Chris Hill 

Sunday, 22 July 2018 9:47 PM

Where necessary, usually for baptism, death and marriages, I normally
place the location of the church etc. into the corresponding fields in the
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