Re: [LegacyUG] Documents, documents, documents
Dave, Thanks for the reply. I have searched through that list but haven't located ANY entries making reference to Legacy Family Tree software. Am I doing something wrong in the search window? Chris On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:47 PM, David Hook daveh...@rogers.com wrote: Chris: For help on managing documentation, I recommend the Record-Keeping-Methodology mailing list. Details on how to subscribe are here: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Genealogical_Computing/RECORD-KEEPING-METHODOLOGY.html Dave Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Documents, documents, documents
I think Dave thought you were talking about organizing your records in general; i.e., in your filing cabinets, on your hard drive, etc. Perhaps you were really asking where these documents should be attached in your Legacy file? i.e., should you attach a census doc as an event or as a source? I'm just guessing but that's what I thought when I saw him send that link. I'm interested in all of the above; I need to get busy attaching docs etc. I have held off because I need to organize my hard drive before attaching everything in Legacy (due to the other recent discussion about what happens when you have to restore your legacy file including multimedia - the path has to be the same for the multimedia so I need to get my files organized on my HD and backed up specifically for that purpose before attaching) So maybe you can be a tad more specific about your question? You will get your answer eventually :-) Kathy On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Chris CG 914ch...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, Thanks for the reply. I have searched through that list but haven't located ANY entries making reference to Legacy Family Tree software. Am I doing something wrong in the search window? Chris On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:47 PM, David Hook daveh...@rogers.com wrote: Chris: For help on managing documentation, I recommend the Record-Keeping-Methodology mailing list. Details on how to subscribe are here: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Genealogical_Computing/RECORD-KEEPING-METHODOLOGY.html Dave Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Kathy Meyer To reach a goal you have never before attained, you must do things you have never before done. --Richard G. Scott, Finding the Way Back, Ensign, May 1990, 74 Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. ~ Albert Einstein Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Documents, documents, documents
Maybe this will clarify my original question: When I have a new document, photo, newspaper obituary, or anything else I find that might relate to my family, I first enter and transcribe it into ByGones and/or Clooz and then cut/paste relevant information into Legacy to create a master source which will be assigned to people in my Legacy database. My main purpose for using the additional programs is to record and track things that point to people I can't identify - witnesses to events, individuals or families with the same last name and in the same geographical area as known ancestors, or other snippets of information. As I keep entering information from more and more sources, some of those unidentified people start to appear more than once and previously unknown relationships and patterns emerge. This in turn leads to some Voila! moments including brick-wall breakthroughs. Things like so that's who grandpa used to talk about or Gerry and Jeremiah are actually the same person or I need to find out more about so-and-so who has been present at these four family weddings. What I want to do now is move all of this research and analysis into Legacy to take advantage of all the additional information recorded there, and discontinue the duplication of efforts required to maintain the additional databases. I am hoping to get some guidance, ideas and practical advice from others who are already better at this than I am. Since everyone using Legacy has to manage this same kind of information and documentation, I am frustrated that the Legacy help resources I have searched through don't address this aspect of using Legacy. Chris On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Kathy Meyer kmeyer2...@gmail.com wrote: I think Dave thought you were talking about organizing your records in general; i.e., in your filing cabinets, on your hard drive, etc. Perhaps you were really asking where these documents should be attached in your Legacy file? i.e., should you attach a census doc as an event or as a source? I'm just guessing but that's what I thought when I saw him send that link. I'm interested in all of the above; I need to get busy attaching docs etc. I have held off because I need to organize my hard drive before attaching everything in Legacy (due to the other recent discussion about what happens when you have to restore your legacy file including multimedia - the path has to be the same for the multimedia so I need to get my files organized on my HD and backed up specifically for that purpose before attaching) So maybe you can be a tad more specific about your question? You will get your answer eventually :-) Kathy On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Chris CG 914ch...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, Thanks for the reply. I have searched through that list but haven't located ANY entries making reference to Legacy Family Tree software. Am I doing something wrong in the search window? Chris On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:47 PM, David Hook daveh...@rogers.com wrote: Chris: For help on managing documentation, I recommend the Record-Keeping-Methodology mailing list. Details on how to subscribe are here: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Genealogical_Computing/RECORD-KEEPING-METHODOLOGY.html Dave Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Kathy Meyer To reach a goal you have never before attained, you must do things you have never before done. --Richard G. Scott, Finding the Way Back, Ensign, May 1990, 74 Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. ~ Albert Einstein Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User
Re: [LegacyUG] Documents, documents, documents
Chris, I briefly played with Clooz and Bygones many years ago, and wrote them off as clunky and unnecessary duplication of effort. But I didn't use them long enough to know their full capability, so it may be you are used to some functions that just can't be duplicated in Legacy. If so, be sure to check out some of the Legacy add-on programs that are available. [I also still rely on paper files and my memory for many of those a-ha moments]. That disclaimer stated, here are some things I do that may be somewhat responsive to your question: Legacy allows you to enter unconnected individuals and families in your database. So, for my Hancock mystery in Southern Illinois, I have all kinds of Hancock individuals and family groups in my database that are not linked to my Hancock ancestor. If I ever find proof they are related, all I need to do is link them to my ancestor. The Events function in Legacy is powerful. What I do, instead of entering those documents, obituaries, etc. into ByGones/Clooz, is enter the data from them directly into Legacy, usually as an event, transcribe them if necessary, construct the Source Citation, and attach a scan of the document itself. If the document mentions multiple individuals, I copy the Event using the Event Clipboard, and with a couple of clicks can add the same info to the other individuals in the database. Once the data is entered, the Legacy search functions are also powerful: play around with that function, and the Help files and Tutorials for it, and see if it won't meet many of your needs. For example, you could create a report for all individuals in XYZ County with the first name Gerry, and another for the first name Jeremiah, and then be able to see if you have duplicate individuals. Or, you could search for all people born in Illinois between 1850 and 1890 with the surname Hancock. If Events doesn't quite fit the info I have, I will use the General Notes or Research Notes screens to jot down information that might be relevant. For example, if I have a Gerry Brown and a Jeremiah Brown and I'm not sure yet if they are the same person, I'll make a notation to that effect in the Research Notes for each individual, i.e. Is this the same person as Jeremiah Brown, RIN 7644? and Is this the same person as Gerry Brown, RIN 2455? Am I getting closer to being responsive to your question? Connie --- On Thu, 9/2/10, Chris CG 914ch...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe this will clarify my original question: When I have a new document, photo, newspaper obituary, or anything else I find that might relate to my family, I first enter and transcribe it into ByGones and/or Clooz and then cut/paste relevant information into Legacy to create a master source which will be assigned to people in my Legacy database. My main purpose for using the additional programs is to record and track things that point to people I can't identify - witnesses to events, individuals or families with the same last name and in the same geographical area as known ancestors, or other snippets of information. As I keep entering information from more and more sources, some of those unidentified people start to appear more than once and previously unknown relationships and patterns emerge. This in turn leads to some Voila! moments including brick-wall breakthroughs. Things like so that's who grandpa used to talk about or Gerry and Jeremiah are actually the same person or I need to find out more about so-and-so who has been present at these four family weddings. What I want to do now is move all of this research and analysis into Legacy to take advantage of all the additional information recorded there, and discontinue the duplication of efforts required to maintain the additional databases. I am hoping to get some guidance, ideas and practical advice from others who are already better at this than I am. Since everyone using Legacy has to manage this same kind of information and documentation, I am frustrated that the Legacy help resources I have searched through don't address this aspect of using Legacy. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Documents, documents, documents
In our Legacy News, we have published 5 articles about different organizational systems that work well with Legacy. See http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/organization/. Hope this helps some. Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation ge...@legacyfamilytree.com www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -Original Message- From: Chris CG [mailto:914ch...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 5:08 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Documents, documents, documents I have been procrastinating for as long as possible, but it's time to get started with my fall/winter project - reviewing and (re)organizing several years' accumulation of various source documents, vital records, etc. I know that there are many details that I originally overlooked - clues or connections that I didn't recognize the first time around. I have been using ByGones and Clooz in addition to Legacy, but the PITA factor is too great and I want to consolidate and convert everything into Legacy. Having bits and pieces in different places just doesn't work anymore. I've looked through the Legacy mini-tutorials, legacyusergroup (this list) archives and the LegacyFamilyTree website but can't find tutorials or best practices for managing all of the documentation that goes along with family history research. Since this is such a big part doing genealogy, I'm sure that there is a lot of information about it but I guess I am not looking in the right places. Where does one go for guidelines and help? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Documents, documents, documents
Chris: Presumably these are digital items you're talking about rather than hardcopies. If so, I have a totally low-tech way of handling them that works very well for my database of roughly 10,000--including a limited one-name study. I dislike having unattached individuals in my database, so their records go into Stray folders under MyDocuments. These are organized by surname and some are grouped into subfolders by given name or geographical area. Periodically I go through the stray folders to see if anything clicks or if I can find new information about an individual. Most of my strays are in their own designated folders, which also includes a Word document where I copy/paste discussions with others about this person or add notes about where (s)he might belong, where I've already checked, etc. When a connection is finally made it's easy to transfer the pertinent information into Legacy. Kirsten -Original Message- From: Chris CG [mailto:914ch...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:26 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Documents, documents, documents Maybe this will clarify my original question: When I have a new document, photo, newspaper obituary, or anything else I find that might relate to my family, I first enter and transcribe it into ByGones and/or Clooz and then cut/paste relevant information into Legacy to create a master source which will be assigned to people in my Legacy database. My main purpose for using the additional programs is to record and track things that point to people I can't identify - witnesses to events, individuals or families with the same last name and in the same geographical area as known ancestors, or other snippets of information. As I keep entering information from more and more sources, some of those unidentified people start to appear more than once and previously unknown relationships and patterns emerge. This in turn leads to some Voila! moments including brick-wall breakthroughs. Things like so that's who grandpa used to talk about or Gerry and Jeremiah are actually the same person or I need to find out more about so-and-so who has been present at these four family weddings. What I want to do now is move all of this research and analysis into Legacy to take advantage of all the additional information recorded there, and discontinue the duplication of efforts required to maintain the additional databases. I am hoping to get some guidance, ideas and practical advice from others who are already better at this than I am. Since everyone using Legacy has to manage this same kind of information and documentation, I am frustrated that the Legacy help resources I have searched through don't address this aspect of using Legacy. Chris Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Documents, documents, documents
Kirsten, I tried that myself for a couple of years or so, but you must be a better person than I, as it became a massive parking lot for unsolved links! I found that I just never got round to looking in it. If it works for you, then great, as you know I am a great beliver in each to their own. My salvation arrived, at least for my primary surname when I started my One-Name database, which originally started with all the oddments which I had not looked at for years. I found it to be an operation which is excellent for forcing me to do something with them. Guess I must enjoy pressure! Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Kirsten Bowman wrote: Chris: Presumably these are digital items you're talking about rather than hardcopies. If so, I have a totally low-tech way of handling them that works very well for my database of roughly 10,000--including a limited one-name study. I dislike having unattached individuals in my database, so their records go into Stray folders under MyDocuments. These are organized by surname and some are grouped into subfolders by given name or geographical area. Periodically I go through the stray folders to see if anything clicks or if I can find new information about an individual. Most of my strays are in their own designated folders, which also includes a Word document where I copy/paste discussions with others about this person or add notes about where (s)he might belong, where I've already checked, etc. When a connection is finally made it's easy to transfer the pertinent information into Legacy. Kirsten -Original Message- From: Chris CG [mailto:914ch...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:26 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Documents, documents, documents Maybe this will clarify my original question: When I have a new document, photo, newspaper obituary, or anything else I find that might relate to my family, I first enter and transcribe it into ByGones and/or Clooz and then cut/paste relevant information into Legacy to create a master source which will be assigned to people in my Legacy database. My main purpose for using the additional programs is to record and track things that point to people I can't identify - witnesses to events, individuals or families with the same last name and in the same geographical area as known ancestors, or other snippets of information. As I keep entering information from more and more sources, some of those unidentified people start to appear more than once and previously unknown relationships and patterns emerge. This in turn leads to some Voila! moments including brick-wall breakthroughs. Things like so that's who grandpa used to talk about or Gerry and Jeremiah are actually the same person or I need to find out more about so-and-so who has been present at these four family weddings. What I want to do now is move all of this research and analysis into Legacy to take advantage of all the additional information recorded there, and discontinue the duplication of efforts required to maintain the additional databases. I am hoping to get some guidance, ideas and practical advice from others who are already better at this than I am. Since everyone using Legacy has to manage this same kind of information and documentation, I am frustrated that the Legacy help resources I have searched through don't address this aspect of using Legacy. Chris Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Documents, documents, documents
For me, it will be extremely valuable to run reports/queries, so a database type of storage would seem to be more appropriate. I have been thinking about using a system similar to what Connie describes, but am concerned about having perhaps one to two hundred unlinked individuals, many small family trees, master sources not linked to events (maybe not even linked to individuals), etc. Like so many other things in genealogy, it seems that there is no standardized structure even within Legacy - of course the program's flexibility to do things your own way is a good thing! The problem is, when I attempt to do/learn something by trial and error until it works I usually end up with a system or method that isn't very good in the long run. Either I unintentionally overlook important details or I fail to anticipate future needs or upcoming changes. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Kirsten, I tried that myself for a couple of years or so, but you must be a better person than I, as it became a massive parking lot for unsolved links! I found that I just never got round to looking in it. If it works for you, then great, as you know I am a great beliver in each to their own. My salvation arrived, at least for my primary surname when I started my One-Name database, which originally started with all the oddments which I had not looked at for years. I found it to be an operation which is excellent for forcing me to do something with them. Guess I must enjoy pressure! Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Kirsten Bowman wrote: Chris: Presumably these are digital items you're talking about rather than hardcopies. If so, I have a totally low-tech way of handling them that works very well for my database of roughly 10,000--including a limited one-name study. I dislike having unattached individuals in my database, so their records go into Stray folders under MyDocuments. These are organized by surname and some are grouped into subfolders by given name or geographical area. Periodically I go through the stray folders to see if anything clicks or if I can find new information about an individual. Most of my strays are in their own designated folders, which also includes a Word document where I copy/paste discussions with others about this person or add notes about where (s)he might belong, where I've already checked, etc. When a connection is finally made it's easy to transfer the pertinent information into Legacy. Kirsten -Original Message- From: Chris CG [mailto:914ch...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:26 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Documents, documents, documents Maybe this will clarify my original question: When I have a new document, photo, newspaper obituary, or anything else I find that might relate to my family, I first enter and transcribe it into ByGones and/or Clooz and then cut/paste relevant information into Legacy to create a master source which will be assigned to people in my Legacy database. My main purpose for using the additional programs is to record and track things that point to people I can't identify - witnesses to events, individuals or families with the same last name and in the same geographical area as known ancestors, or other snippets of information. As I keep entering information from more and more sources, some of those unidentified people start to appear more than once and previously unknown relationships and patterns emerge. This in turn leads to some Voila! moments including brick-wall breakthroughs. Things like so that's who grandpa used to talk about or Gerry and Jeremiah are actually the same person or I need to find out more about so-and-so who has been present at these four family weddings. What I want to do now is move all of this research and analysis into Legacy to take advantage of all the additional information recorded there, and discontinue the duplication of efforts required to maintain the additional databases. I am hoping to get some guidance, ideas and practical advice from others who are already better at this than I am. Since everyone using Legacy has to manage this same kind of information and documentation, I am frustrated that the Legacy help resources I have searched through don't address this aspect of using Legacy. Chris Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com
RE: [LegacyUG] Documents, documents, documents
Ron: Yours sounds like a good method too. Is your one-name database included with your main database or is it a separate file? I'm prompted to look at my stray files regularly because there are several people working on the same line so I get frequent messages like, Here's what I found on . . . or What do you have on . . . That keeps the strays from getting stale. Our research area is also limited to Ontario, Canada, 1783-1880, so that keeps the stray list down to a very manageable size--although we do have about 2,000 individuals connected to the main tree. Kirsten -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 11:50 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Documents, documents, documents Kirsten, I tried that myself for a couple of years or so, but you must be a better person than I, as it became a massive parking lot for unsolved links! I found that I just never got round to looking in it. If it works for you, then great, as you know I am a great beliver in each to their own. My salvation arrived, at least for my primary surname when I started my One-Name database, which originally started with all the oddments which I had not looked at for years. I found it to be an operation which is excellent for forcing me to do something with them. Guess I must enjoy pressure! Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp