Re: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

2013-12-10 Thread Mike Fry
On 2013/12/10 13:02, Alan Pereira wrote:

 I have noticed that the field desciptors of Parents and Children that
 appear on Family View now take up a line each of visible space.
 Can these descriptors be turned off or moved to the left hand edge of the
 data fields so as to allow for a larger stretched font in a windowed view.

If it's more space you're after. Disable the integration with FamilySearch. Then
the dark-grey arrows disappear leaving a blank space under the names of the
Husband and Wife. This space could also be reclaimed.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)



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RE: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

2013-12-10 Thread Alan Pereira
Thanks Mike, I have submitted a suggestion for a general Option called 
Compressed Family View where
1) the Parents label can either be turned of or place on the LHS of the data 
fields
2) the Integration Feature arrows are returned to the same place as Leg7.5 and 
remove the line under {your idea}
3) the Childrens label is placed to LHS of children data fields and othe 
childrens features similarly placed on RHS of said data fields
4) remove the line under the children's data fields.

This will result in saving 4 lines and nearly bring the font size back to that 
of a similarly sized window of Legacy7.5 Family View. The Toolbars still take 
up more space that 7.5 unless you want to put up with them minimised and have 
extra mouse control (not something I enjoy with a Laptop).

Alan Pereira

-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com]
Sent: 10 December 2013 11:17
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

On 2013/12/10 13:02, Alan Pereira wrote:

 I have noticed that the field desciptors of Parents and Children
 that appear on Family View now take up a line each of visible space.
 Can these descriptors be turned off or moved to the left hand edge of
 the data fields so as to allow for a larger stretched font in a windowed view.

If it's more space you're after. Disable the integration with FamilySearch. 
Then the dark-grey arrows disappear leaving a blank space under the names of 
the Husband and Wife. This space could also be reclaimed.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)






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RE: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

2013-12-10 Thread Paul Gray
I agree that changes should be made to make more efficient use of the screen 
real estate in family view, but quite frankly I think the solution is to more 
or less revert to the way it was in 7.5. I don't think this would really 
compromise the new look and feel.

I think Husband and Wife need to stay on top, because that line is also used 
for tags. It's the same as 7.5 with the enhancement of showing more tags, it 
works just fine.

It's the next two lines where the space is wasted.

1) Why are the family search arrows on a line by themselves? Just put them on 
the right of the name like they used to be.

2) Why have that blue underline to highlight the active person? Just highlight 
the name like it used to be.

Those two simple changes will free up two lines which is significant space to 
expand the font size on the five vital events below.

Paul Gray




-Original Message-
From: Alan Pereira [mailto:alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: December-10-13 6:18 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

Thanks Mike, I have submitted a suggestion for a general Option called 
Compressed Family View where
1) the Parents label can either be turned of or place on the LHS of the data 
fields
2) the Integration Feature arrows are returned to the same place as Leg7.5 and 
remove the line under {your idea}
3) the Childrens label is placed to LHS of children data fields and othe 
childrens features similarly placed on RHS of said data fields
4) remove the line under the children's data fields.

This will result in saving 4 lines and nearly bring the font size back to that 
of a similarly sized window of Legacy7.5 Family View. The Toolbars still take 
up more space that 7.5 unless you want to put up with them minimised and have 
extra mouse control (not something I enjoy with a Laptop).

Alan Pereira

-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com]
Sent: 10 December 2013 11:17
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

On 2013/12/10 13:02, Alan Pereira wrote:

 I have noticed that the field desciptors of Parents and Children
 that appear on Family View now take up a line each of visible space.
 Can these descriptors be turned off or moved to the left hand edge of
 the data fields so as to allow for a larger stretched font in a windowed view.

If it's more space you're after. Disable the integration with FamilySearch. 
Then the dark-grey arrows disappear leaving a blank space under the names of 
the Husband and Wife. This space could also be reclaimed.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)






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Re: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

2013-12-10 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 10/12/2013 16:55, Paul Gray wrote:
 It's the next two lines where the space is wasted.

 1) Why are the family search arrows on a line by themselves? Just put
 them on the right of the name like they used to be.

The FS arrows aren't always on a line by themselves.  If you have anyone
with a rather long name that wraps over to the second line and the FS
arrows remain on the end of that same line.
--
Jenny M Benson



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RE: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

2013-12-10 Thread Paul Gray
OK Jenny, I didn't have any real long names and didn't realize that. However, 
in the normal case (names that fit on one line) version 7.5 stretches the fonts 
to be very large, i.e. it uses the entire box to display the name in a very 
large font, causing it to appear like the FS arrows on 'on the same line'.

Not the biggest deal in the world, but I did appreciate the old way making the 
font as large as possible.


Paul Gray



-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]

On 10/12/2013 16:55, Paul Gray wrote:
 It's the next two lines where the space is wasted.

 1) Why are the family search arrows on a line by themselves? Just put
 them on the right of the name like they used to be.

The FS arrows aren't always on a line by themselves.  If you have anyone with a 
rather long name that wraps over to the second line and the FS arrows remain on 
the end of that same line.
--
Jenny M Benson







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RE: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

2013-12-10 Thread Paul Gray
Oops. I spoke to soon, Jenny. Not enough testing. 7.5 does not make the font 
size any larger when the name fits on one line vs. two lines. What is different 
is that 7.5 vertically centers the name and the FS arrows in the box. Version 
8.0 aligns the name to the top of the box, and the FS arrows to the bottom of 
the box hence the different appearance.

I think centering the text leaving equal white space above and below the name 
looks a bit better, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over the new 
presentation.

Paul Gray



-Original Message-
From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com]
Sent: December-10-13 11:36 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

OK Jenny, I didn't have any real long names and didn't realize that. However, 
in the normal case (names that fit on one line) version 7.5 stretches the fonts 
to be very large, i.e. it uses the entire box to display the name in a very 
large font, causing it to appear like the FS arrows on 'on the same line'.

Not the biggest deal in the world, but I did appreciate the old way making the 
font as large as possible.


Paul Gray



-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]

On 10/12/2013 16:55, Paul Gray wrote:
 It's the next two lines where the space is wasted.

 1) Why are the family search arrows on a line by themselves? Just put
 them on the right of the name like they used to be.

The FS arrows aren't always on a line by themselves.  If you have anyone with a 
rather long name that wraps over to the second line and the FS arrows remain on 
the end of that same line.
--
Jenny M Benson










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