Re: [LegacyUG] Changing location name based on event year?
I did a similar thing with location names. I basically did it the way Brian suggested. Bear in mind there may be people born in Colonial America (before 1783) but married or died when the country name was different. I have individuals among my European ancestors whom have two or even three different country names for events, even though they never left the town in which they lived. Other levels of government (e.g. county or state) can also have different names. I think it is worth the trouble because it adds some social history or historical context to your ancestors' lives and is in line with best genealogy practice. You also learn a lot about the social history of your ancestors while researching the changing jurisdictions and occasionally find great sources in the process. John -Original Message- From: Glenda Hall Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 7:09 AM To: Legacy User Group Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Changing location name based on event year? I agree with Brian Kelly. No quick fix. I periodically clean up locations based on time of event. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 6, 2018, at 2:49 PM, Brian Kelly wrote: Although you can use the Master Location List to edit a location and the change will update all uses I do not think that will work for you because the same place that has existed since colonial days needs two entries, one for the colonial place and one for the post-revolution place name if it is used for an event after 1783. In fact if there have been county name changes over time you may need more than just two to adhere to the standard of naming a place as it existed at the time of an event. You can probably develop a work list using a search for all people with an event date before 1783 then tagging those people to work on. As you work through the tagged people, updating the place names to your colonial standards, you can remove the tag. Brian Kelly On 06-Nov-18 2:06 PM, Dave Johnson wrote: I have been laboriously cleaning up my locations in Legacy 9. I decided that all events in the US that took place before 1783 should identify "Colonial America" for the country. After 1872, all US locations should identify "United States" as the country. This may not make sense to some, but it is something that I want to do. Does anyone know how this might be accomplished without changing them one by one? Dave -- /Dave Johnson/ / / /*Happiness is a CHOICE!!!*/ -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Changing location name based on event year?
I agree with Brian Kelly. No quick fix. I periodically clean up locations based on time of event. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 6, 2018, at 2:49 PM, Brian Kelly wrote: > > Although you can use the Master Location List to edit a location and the > change will update all uses I do not think that will work for you because the > same place that has existed since colonial days needs two entries, one for > the colonial place and one for the post-revolution place name if it is used > for an event after 1783. In fact if there have been county name changes over > time you may need more than just two to adhere to the standard of naming a > place as it existed at the time of an event. > > You can probably develop a work list using a search for all people with an > event date before 1783 then tagging those people to work on. As you work > through the tagged people, updating the place names to your colonial > standards, you can remove the tag. > > Brian Kelly > >> On 06-Nov-18 2:06 PM, Dave Johnson wrote: >> I have been laboriously cleaning up my locations in Legacy 9. I decided >> that all events in the US that took place before 1783 should identify >> "Colonial America" for the country. After 1872, all US locations should >> identify "United States" as the country. >> This may not make sense to some, but it is something that I want to do. >> Does anyone know how this might be accomplished without changing them one by >> one? >> Dave >> -- >> /Dave Johnson/ >> / >> / >> /*Happiness is a CHOICE!!!*/ > > > -- > > LegacyUserGroup mailing list > LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > To manage your subscription and unsubscribe > http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com > Archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Changing location name based on event year?
Although you can use the Master Location List to edit a location and the change will update all uses I do not think that will work for you because the same place that has existed since colonial days needs two entries, one for the colonial place and one for the post-revolution place name if it is used for an event after 1783. In fact if there have been county name changes over time you may need more than just two to adhere to the standard of naming a place as it existed at the time of an event. You can probably develop a work list using a search for all people with an event date before 1783 then tagging those people to work on. As you work through the tagged people, updating the place names to your colonial standards, you can remove the tag. Brian Kelly On 06-Nov-18 2:06 PM, Dave Johnson wrote: I have been laboriously cleaning up my locations in Legacy 9. I decided that all events in the US that took place before 1783 should identify "Colonial America" for the country. After 1872, all US locations should identify "United States" as the country. This may not make sense to some, but it is something that I want to do. Does anyone know how this might be accomplished without changing them one by one? Dave -- /Dave Johnson/ / / /*Happiness is a CHOICE!!!*/ -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Changing location name based on event year?
That seems to be good for making changes to the expanded/contracted location formats, especially if you were slack in entering your data. But what Dave actually wants is a process to pass through every event in his database, identify the date on the event and then would or add the location against it to match the standard for names that he wants to apply for that date. I actually doubt that any genealogy system would allow you to do that, unless it would enable you to have multiple names for the same location depending on the date that it was valid. I have exactly the same issue within the UK, especially with locations within Middlesex and Surrey which have relocated into London. Regards Chris -- Original Message -- From: "Joyce Herzog" To: "Legacy User Group" Sent: 06/11/2018 19:17:55 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Changing location name based on event year? Work in your Master Location list and you won't have to do them one by one! Joyc e On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:07 PM Dave Johnson wrote: I have been laboriously cleaning up my locations in Legacy 9. I decided that all events in the US that took place before 1783 should identify "Colonial America" for the country. After 1872, all US locations should identify "United States" as the country. This may not make sense to some, but it is something that I want to do. Does anyone know how this might be accomplished without changing them one by one? Dave -- Dave Johnson Happiness is a CHOICE!!! -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ -- Researching Drinkwater surname all over the world, any time, any place, but especially Descendants and Ancestors of Paul Drinkwater, born 1789 in Sandhurst, Gloucestershire, England. GOONS #5057 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/drinkwater.html http://drinkwater.one-name.net/index.php -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Changing location name based on event year?
The one thing that Legacy misses is an editor. I can understand that to a degree, but there are points like this where it would be useful to search and find a block of data and then make a change against all of them. Of course, that needs knowing what the user might what to find and what to change, and in which of the many data fields in the tables that he wants to modify and in what way. This is, of course, a classic IT issue with an IT solution, and one that I could deal with, but not one that I would recommend to non-IT person. The answer is that the Legacy database is actually a Microsoft Access data file. Therefore, with Access it is possible to use SQL to modify fields in the various tables or selected queries. I will not go any further - if you have the correct IT experience you will know what I am talking about, and if not then keep away from that route. Regards Chris -- Original Message -- From: "Dave Johnson" To: "Legacy User Group" Sent: 06/11/2018 19:06:46 Subject: [LegacyUG] Changing location name based on event year? I have been laboriously cleaning up my locations in Legacy 9. I decided that all events in the US that took place before 1783 should identify "Colonial America" for the country. After 1872, all US locations should identify "United States" as the country. This may not make sense to some, but it is something that I want to do. Does anyone know how this might be accomplished without changing them one by one? Dave -- Dave Johnson Happiness is a CHOICE!!!-- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Changing location name based on event year?
Work in your Master Location list and you won't have to do them one by one! Joyc e On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:07 PM Dave Johnson wrote: > > I have been laboriously cleaning up my locations in Legacy 9. I decided that > all events in the US that took place before 1783 should identify "Colonial > America" for the country. After 1872, all US locations should identify > "United States" as the country. > > This may not make sense to some, but it is something that I want to do. Does > anyone know how this might be accomplished without changing them one by one? > > Dave > > -- > Dave Johnson > > Happiness is a CHOICE!!! > -- > > LegacyUserGroup mailing list > LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > To manage your subscription and unsubscribe > http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com > Archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ -- Researching Drinkwater surname all over the world, any time, any place, but especially Descendants and Ancestors of Paul Drinkwater, born 1789 in Sandhurst, Gloucestershire, England. GOONS #5057 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/drinkwater.html http://drinkwater.one-name.net/index.php -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
