Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown spouse

2011-02-08 Thread Scott Hall
There are a few ways.

One, if you have a mother with no father attached, and simply create a
child, no RIN will be assigned to the unknown father.  An MRIN will
be, which is unavoidable.

Two, if you create a unlinked child and then link it to a mother only,
the child will attach to the mother only.  Again, if the mother has no
existing husband, none wil be created and thus no RIN, but as above,
an MRIN will be (mother + unknown).

Scott

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Jennifer Crockett
jcrock...@optusnet.com.au wrote:

 I can't remember how to remove an unknown spouse and just leave it blank. I
 have a woman who had three children to three different men and two of the
 men's names are known but not the third. How do I link a child to the mother
 without having an unknown father with a RIN?

 Regards,

 Jennifer
 http://colston-wenck.com






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Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown spouse

2011-02-08 Thread Scott Hall
After I hit send, I thought of something else you might want to know.

Because the children were from different fathers, you may wish to show
them as half siblings.  To do this you'll have to temporarily create
fathers, then delete them.

Create father #1 (call him anything) and create child #1.

Create father #2 (same deal) and create child #2.

Delete each of the fathers.

You'll note that the mother will still list two spouses (both
unknown) and have two MRINs, but no RINs will be assigned to the
non-existant fathers.  Depending on which MRIN you show, the other
children will appear as ½ siblings.

Scott

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Jennifer Crockett
jcrock...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
 I can't remember how to remove an unknown spouse and just leave it blank. I
 have a woman who had three children to three different men and two of the
 men's names are known but not the third. How do I link a child to the mother
 without having an unknown father with a RIN?

 Regards,

 Jennifer
 http://colston-wenck.com






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RE: [LegacyUG] Unknown spouse

2011-02-08 Thread Jennifer Crockett
Thanks, Scott

I unlinked the child from the mother and the unknown father. Then, and this was 
what I had forgotten, brought up the child and right clicked Add- mother - link 
to existing person.

Re your second message, I have the half siblings shown.

Regards,

Jennifer
http://colston-wenck.com


-Original Message-
From: Scott Hall [mailto:seh0...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 February 2011 12:51 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown spouse

There are a few ways.

One, if you have a mother with no father attached, and simply create a
child, no RIN will be assigned to the unknown father. An MRIN will
be, which is unavoidable.

Two, if you create a unlinked child and then link it to a mother only,
the child will attach to the mother only. Again, if the mother has no
existing husband, none wil be created and thus no RIN, but as above,
an MRIN will be (mother + unknown).

Scott

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Jennifer Crockett
jcrock...@optusnet.com.au wrote:

 I can't remember how to remove an unknown spouse and just leave it blank. I
 have a woman who had three children to three different men and two of the
 men's names are known but not the third. How do I link a child to the mother
 without having an unknown father with a RIN?

 Regards,

 Jennifer
 http://colston-wenck.com





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Re: [LegacyUG] unknown spouse - was Young Children have Unknown Spouse

2010-06-08 Thread Ron Taylor
After a bit more thought, I realized that using the pre-defined search 
Individuals with an unknown spouse could then be viewed in the search results 
name list under the right hand tab Family where those spouses who are unknown 
without any children are easy to see.

Some said that the original memo was not posted, so it is below.

Ron Taylor
--- On Tue, 6/8/10, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] unknown spouse - was Young Children have Unknown Spouse
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 10:29 AM

Actually, un-wanted marriage records can be found for other situations besides 
those mentioned for young children.

A marriage record is always required to connect a child with a parent.  The 
marriage list does show marriages where one or both spouses are unknown, 
meaning the spouse does not have a RIN.  Be sure that CustomizeViewDisplay 
Numbers on NamesOn all Name Lists is checked and the radio button for RINs is 
set.  The marriage list shows the word Unknown even if you have selected the 
option (Just leave it blank) under CustomizeData FormatWord for Blank 
Records.  There will be no RIN next to spouses that are actually blank so these 
Unknowns are distinguished from an individual that has the word Unknown in the 
name field because that record will have a RIN.

It would be great to
 have a built-in search which could find all marriage records where there is a 
blank spouse and there are no children and no data is in the marriage record.  
These are usually marriage records that were added by accident and the user 
will likely want to remove them.  The pre-defined search for Individuals with 
an unknown spouse does find individuals with this type marriage but it would 
be more helpful if it found the marriages that satisfy these conditions because 
often the individuals found have other marriages as well as the blank spouse 
type.

Brian offered a very good option possibility when he said...

create a marriage when the user enter absolutely no data

whatsoever? I should think that if the SAVE button is accidentally

 and unknowingly clicked, Legacy should warn the user that no data

 exists but it will create a marriage link -- Continue or Cancel.

That would allow the user a method to avoid adding these un-wanted marriage 
records.  Thanks Brian for proposing your solution.

Ron Taylor







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