[OSM-legal-talk] feedback requested
Dear All, LWG would like feedback on a couple of items relating to cleaning tainted data as we all prepare for the data base transition. Draft minutes are here. https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1ZIQSl0xXpUFbqTeknz61BYgfCINDTzlAWomOiGxhgG8 Of particular interest are: - can node positions be cleaned by moving to a new position? - is a mapper declaration of odbl=clean interesting and helpful in reconciling the data base? As seen here: We discussed the moving of nodes and whether they could be clean: We have seen a concern expressed where an node is moved by an agreed mapper and that is the last position, should it not be deemed clean (even if created dirty)? Conclusion: Yes, we are OK with that, the assumption being that the move is made in good faith with a reference source, (survey, Bing imagery, …). We consider that the creation of an object and its id to be a system action rather than individual creative contribution. Tags on the same node must be considered separately. The LWG would like to adopt this as policy and would be grateful for community feedback. Frederik has recently proposed a new tag, odbl=clean, to be set by mappers who will vouch for the odbl compliance of any object. The LWG would like to adopt this as policy and would be grateful for community feedback. We look forward to your thoughtful, insightful feedback. Best regards and Happy Mapping, Richard Weait on behalf of LWG ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] feedback requested
+1 for both items On Dec 20, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Richard Weait wrote: Dear All, LWG would like feedback on a couple of items relating to cleaning tainted data as we all prepare for the data base transition. Draft minutes are here. https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1ZIQSl0xXpUFbqTeknz61BYgfCINDTzlAWomOiGxhgG8 Of particular interest are: - can node positions be cleaned by moving to a new position? - is a mapper declaration of odbl=clean interesting and helpful in reconciling the data base? As seen here: We discussed the moving of nodes and whether they could be clean: We have seen a concern expressed where an node is moved by an agreed mapper and that is the last position, should it not be deemed clean (even if created dirty)? Conclusion: Yes, we are OK with that, the assumption being that the move is made in good faith with a reference source, (survey, Bing imagery, …). We consider that the creation of an object and its id to be a system action rather than individual creative contribution. Tags on the same node must be considered separately. The LWG would like to adopt this as policy and would be grateful for community feedback. Frederik has recently proposed a new tag, odbl=clean, to be set by mappers who will vouch for the odbl compliance of any object. The LWG would like to adopt this as policy and would be grateful for community feedback. We look forward to your thoughtful, insightful feedback. Best regards and Happy Mapping, Richard Weait on behalf of LWG ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] feedback requested
On 12/20/2011 10:11 PM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: Of particular interest are: - can node positions be cleaned by moving to a new position? While you are at it, I would love to hear about a specific subset of the cases encompassed by this question : the cases where the edit is correlated with a change of source. I asked this question a week ago in the Are objects still tainted when they are edited from a better source ? thread here and it has not been answered yet. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] feedback requested
Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote on 21/12/2011 at 07:27:19 +1100 subject [OSM-legal-talk] feedback requested : Of particular interest are: - can node positions be cleaned by moving to a new position? - is a mapper declaration of odbl=clean interesting and helpful in reconciling the data base? +1 for both items Frederik has recently proposed a new tag, odbl=clean, to be set by mappers who will vouch for the odbl compliance of any object. The LWG would like to adopt this as policy and would be grateful for community feedback. I think odbl=clean is based on the honesty of the OSM contributor. It is exactly the same need of honesty if the contributor does a copy and paste of data in order to make it odbl+ct compliant. The only difference is that history remains intact and that it takes only 0.1% of the time to do it. I support strongly the idea of the odbl=clean tag. -- Sincerely Hendrik Oesterlin - email hendrikmail2...@yahoo.de ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] feedback requested
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org wrote: On 12/20/2011 10:11 PM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: Of particular interest are: - can node positions be cleaned by moving to a new position? While you are at it, I would love to hear about a specific subset of the cases encompassed by this question : the cases where the edit is correlated with a change of source. I asked this question a week ago in the Are objects still tainted when they are edited from a better source ? thread here and it has not been answered yet. And we're listening. Tell us and be specific. Some of us have been remapping for a while. Give examples. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
