[OSM-legal-talk] missing attribution for use of OSM data
hi folks, auckland, new zealand has a council-controlled website which is used for route planning on public transport. having done a lot of editing on osm over the years, i know the osm data pretty well, and can spot its use quite easily [1]. from what i can see, the transport routing site doesn't mention osm anywhere, or give correct attribution. one of my friends has put in a freedom of information request to the council, to confirm it is osm data and to get formal confirmation for who the contractors are - we know this already though, from examining the website, it's smartrak.co.nz as an aside, it appears their own website may also have unattributed osm data, depicting central auckland: http://www.smartrak.co.nz/Info/images/home-map-v2.jpg we are confident the data is from osm. assuming it is, what are the best steps to take? this is the site: https://at.govt.nz/bus-train-ferry/journey-planner/ [1] the inconsistent tracing of buildings, hedges, fences and driveways were a big giveaway, but there are many others, such as geometry and naming mistakes, odd road geometry i've drawn in and new features which have only been built in the last two weeks thanks, -- robin What the world needs now, is love sweet love ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build
On 16 November 2011 07:16, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: In the UK, issues due to the use of national mapping agency data have been resolved and in Australia we have had explicit permission to use the bulk of government-derived imports. That mostly completes our list of known specific import dataset-related issues from the Import Catalogue where we can actively help. If there are any more, New Zealand?, please let us know. yes, there has been permission given to publish LINZ data under CT and ODBL. i will see if i can dig up something more solid to refer to -- robin http://fu.ac.nz - Auckland's Free University ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-legal-talk] use of auckland city council aerial photos for tracing
hi, auckland city council provides very high resolution photos, which some nz users would like to use for tracing. this is the license under which we can use the data. i'm not sure how to proceed. some advice, please? [quote] You are permitted to use this website and any data, maps, plans, content and information (“information”) provided by this website, on the following terms and conditions: 1. This website and the information provided in it are the copyright of the Auckland Council. This website is a public service and may be used for personal and business purposes. However, you are not permitted to copy or republish any substantial amount of the information from this website without the prior written consent of Auckland Council. [/quote] specifically, does tracing count as 're-publishing information'? if so, would lots people tracing count as 'substantial'? -- robin http://tangleball.co.nz/ http://bumblepuppy.org/blog/ ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-legal-talk] auckland city council copyright notice
the auckland city council has this as its copyright notice. how compatible would this be with cc-by-sa, or odbl? http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/en/pages/Copyrightstatement.aspx if it isn't, which items are incompatible? cheers -- robin http://creativespace.org.nz/ http://bumblepuppy.org/blog/ ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] linz dataset for nz - attribution methods summary
On 08/04/2008, 80n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if we are going to have an 'attribution' page on the wiki[1], with the fine print regarding sources of various chunks of data, would a link to it be possible, on the main map page? titled say 'data attribution' or 'data sources'? Have you got a definition of main map page? If the cycle map www.openstreetmap.org . the page with the map became more popular than the main site (generally, or in NZ) would the agreement you're after force its admins to add links? Or on well, osm don't control the cycle map (i think), but cc-by-sa says they have to attribute the data sources, so yes, under the terms of the license they have chosen to use, they must attribute. the other side, if you specify on www.openstreetmap.org what if the project renames? this is very htpotthetical, but it doesn't really matter - the point is to have a link to attribution data at the place where people view/download/whatever the data. if the map page changes, the link gets moved to the new map page Actually *every* published map that uses OSM data, including OSM's own maps must satisfy the attribution requirement. That's what the BY clause in the CC-BY-SA means. Anyone publishing OSM data must provide attribution: You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor is what Creative Commons actually says. The attribution page on the wiki at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Attribution would seem like a simple and convenient way of achieving this. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Fwd: OSM (Open Street Map) Creative Commons Licence 2.5 (CCL) versus GeoBase Unrestricted Use Licence Agreement (GeoBase licence)
On 08/04/2008, Nick Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I've been involved in some ongoing dialogue with Natural Resources, Government of Canada, who are keen for their National Road Network to be used by OSM. There are a few particularities of the license that need clarifying on OSM's party. Natural Resources are happy that OSM's current cc-by-sa license is fully compatible with their own licensing. I would appreciate input from the community here - do we agree with Natural Resources' interpretation of the license? If not can we give them some constructive feedback regarding their own license? If so, I'll move ahead with getting the data imported. ... Date: Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 8:19 PM Subject: RE: OSM (Open Street Map) Creative Commons Licence 2.5 (CCL) versus GeoBase Unrestricted Use Licence Agreement (GeoBase licence) You have expressed concerns about the 'compatibility' between the GeoBase Unrestricted Use Licence Agreement (GeoBase licence) and the Creative Commons Share Alike 2.5 Licence (CCL) used for Open Street Map (OSM). have i missed something? i thought osm used Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license not Creative Commons Share Alike 2.5 Licence http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OpenStreetMap_License ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] import of dataset for new zealand
On 18/03/2008, Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robin Paulson wrote: (c) Crown Copyright w00t, Robin found his Shift key! ;) thanks, incredibly constructive. haven't you got something better to do? ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] import of dataset for new zealand
On 19/03/2008, Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What, something better than having a sense of humour? No, probably not. Alternatively, you could respond to the seven lines of constructive, substantive suggestion I made below that. But - oh look - you appear to have snipped that. i ignore people's suggestions when their first response is something in that tone. maybe if you want your point to be taken seriously you should make it in a serious way? ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] attributing cc by attribution data
On 10/01/2008, Sebastian Spaeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's been talked about regarding a couple of other issues that have cropped up (the naming dispute over cyprus for instance) - maybe we need to lock some information, and allow it only to be edited by certain privileged administrators, who are held responsible for what happens to it? That you cannot prevent anyway. People can always download the data remove the data locally. Delete the data on the server and re-upload it. (or parts of it). ? not if the data is locked for deletion and editing ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/legal-talk
