Re: How important is LeoWapp to you?

[Chris George]

My use case:

1. Set up webserver on local machine.
2. Install Leo, including all prereqs.
3. Login via https from my phone or tablet or laptop from wherever.
4. Live my life.

Security is a non-issue as the webserver guys have already done a good
enough job of it and I will have full control of the server.

No need for python on the remote device which makes it accessible without
standing on my head to shoehorn a full python environment into a wee little
device. As a writer I have no need for python other than to get Leo up and
running.

Chris

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 4:42 PM Rob  wrote:

> Based on what little I can discern about the project (haven't actually
> used it yet), my initial thoughts are:
>
> - How important is the LeoWapp project
>>  to you?
>>
> Could be *very* important to me if it means I can open and edit .leo files
> on a machine which does not have the standard Leo QT environment installed;
> just open a browser.
>
>> - How likely are you to use it?
>>
> Given my assumptions above, I would definitely use it.
>
> Of course, I may be making completely wrong assumptions about what LeoWapp
> can and will do.
>
>
> Rob...
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Re: How important is LeoWapp to you?

[Rob]

Based on what little I can discern about the project (haven't actually used 
it yet), my initial thoughts are:

- How important is the LeoWapp project 
>  to you?
>
Could be *very* important to me if it means I can open and edit .leo files 
on a machine which does not have the standard Leo QT environment installed; 
just open a browser. 

> - How likely are you to use it?
>
Given my assumptions above, I would definitely use it.

Of course, I may be making completely wrong assumptions about what LeoWapp 
can and will do.


Rob...

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Re: How important is LeoWapp to you?

[jkn]

On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 4:32:22 PM UTC, Kent Tenney wrote:
>
> Is the intention to offer all capability of QT Leo?
> - more important for greybeards than newbies
>
> Off hand, my interest would be in running LeoWapp on text only 
> server machines, accessing from my desktop machine.
> Security could be managed because both would be on the same
> subnet, or routed locally.
>
> Also interesting would be editing files served at home while at
> work. Here security would be more challenging. I haven't yet
> had interest in sharing access to Leo via internet, but if it was
> possible that might change. 
>
> I'm not aware of advantages of a browser gui over the QT gui
> if I'm only working locally.
>
> Thanks,
> Kent
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 9:37 AM Edward K. Ream  > wrote:
>
>> As I explain here 
>> , there 
>> is no doubt in my mind that leoflexx.py could be made into a commercial 
>> app. 
>>
>> That being so, now is a good time to ask you these questions:
>>
>> - How important is the LeoWapp project 
>>  to you?
>> - How likely are you to use it?
>>
>> I'll probably continue work on LeoWapp for the next week or so in any 
>> case, but I'd like to get your responses first.
>>
>> Edward
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I have a strong interest in the technical feasibility of LeoWapp - I want 
to be able to write Python apps for a browser - but
specifically as regards Leo, my use cases are similar to Kent's

J^n

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Re: How important is LeoWapp to you?

[Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas]

I think that the best way to answer the question would be to give kind
of a simple bootstrapping process to launch the LeoWapp. Something like:

1. cd /my/leo/folder

2. git update something (or the option that git has for that).

3. launchLeo.py -gui web (or the proper launcher).

4. Load some of Joe's Leo files to test LeoWapp (or any proper file that
showcase the possibilities that LeoWapp opens).

Without any simple test, I could answer, in kind of an abstract fashion,
that bridging Leo and the Web is important, to bring rendering and
interactive capabilities from the Web to Leo and to bring Leo outlining
capabilities to the Web, but I would like to test it fluently by myself.

Cheers.

Offray

On 4/12/18 10:37, Edward K. Ream wrote:
> As I explain here
> ,
> there is no doubt in my mind that leoflexx.py could be made into a
> commercial app.
>
> That being so, now is a good time to ask you these questions:
>
> - How important is the LeoWapp project
>  to you?
> - How likely are you to use it?
>
> I'll probably continue work on LeoWapp for the next week or so in any
> case, but I'd like to get your responses first.
>
> Edward
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Re: How important is LeoWapp to you?

[Kent Tenney]

Is the intention to offer all capability of QT Leo?
- more important for greybeards than newbies

Off hand, my interest would be in running LeoWapp on text only
server machines, accessing from my desktop machine.
Security could be managed because both would be on the same
subnet, or routed locally.

Also interesting would be editing files served at home while at
work. Here security would be more challenging. I haven't yet
had interest in sharing access to Leo via internet, but if it was
possible that might change.

I'm not aware of advantages of a browser gui over the QT gui
if I'm only working locally.

Thanks,
Kent

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 9:37 AM Edward K. Ream  wrote:

> As I explain here
> , there
> is no doubt in my mind that leoflexx.py could be made into a commercial
> app.
>
> That being so, now is a good time to ask you these questions:
>
> - How important is the LeoWapp project
>  to you?
> - How likely are you to use it?
>
> I'll probably continue work on LeoWapp for the next week or so in any
> case, but I'd like to get your responses first.
>
> Edward
>
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How important is LeoWapp to you?

[Edward K. Ream]

As I explain here 
, there is 
no doubt in my mind that leoflexx.py could be made into a commercial app. 

That being so, now is a good time to ask you these questions:

- How important is the LeoWapp project 
 to you?
- How likely are you to use it?

I'll probably continue work on LeoWapp for the next week or so in any case, 
but I'd like to get your responses first.

Edward

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LeoWapp issue #1005 contains a fairly complete to-do list

[Edward K. Ream]

As I have just documented 
, 
leoflexx.py is already a proof that flexx is a sound basis for Leo as a web 
app.

Today I added a fairly complete to-do list to Leo issue #1005 
. It will remain 
pretty much in sync with my personal to-do list.

Plenty of work remains, but that's completely expected.  Leo's gui's are 
complex beasts.

Edward

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Why LeoWapp has succeeded

[Edward K. Ream]

As a program manager, I would have no hesitation in using flexx as the 
basis for a commercial app. 

Here are my reasons, from least important to most important:

1. There have been no insurmountable problems using flexx.  In particular, 
the startup code works well.

Today's work cleans up the last remaining startup issues.

2. The remaining to-do items 
 are clearly doable 
with a reasonable amount of work.

3. flexx can do *anything* that Javascript can do.

This was reinforced in this comment 
 of 
flexx issue #535 .

*Summary*

Everything suggests that flexx can do (with Python syntax) *anything *that 
can be done in Javascript.

This means that LeoWapp is *already *a successful prototype.

Edward

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