Re: (b)lfs and wireless
Rainer Peter Feller wrote: On the other hand, it is not me who has anything to say :-) Sure it is. :) You don't have to be an editor to have your opinion count. LFS needs more of its community to speak up and voice opinions on issues like this. Thanks for the comments, Rainer. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: (b)lfs and wireless
I think wlan should find it's way into LFS, because this WILL become part of basic networking ... so wlantools and ndiswrapper should go into it also and at least one example of a ndiswrapper and a firmware based card sould be there On the other hand, it is not me who has anything to say :-) -- H CUH Rainer Peter Feller H -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
(b)lfs and wireless
Hi all, First of all sorry for posting on 2 lists, but I'm not quite sure which one is the best for this question. I would have thought lfs, but I read a thread on blfs these days, so I'm just not quite sure anymore. (furthermore, this would maybe be even better on the dev list ...) I haven't seen (hope I didn't miss it) any related topics for wireless, such as compilation of wireless-tools, and scripts for the wireless to be setup at startup. Not a big issue at all (I have it running on lfs 6.0 with kernel 2.6.14 for an IPW2200), but I wonder if this is plan to add this in a next book, or if there is a reason for not supporting it at all ? Because of course having something working doesn't mean at all for me that I did the right thing at the right place ... Thanks, Jeremy -- Linux Registered User #317862 Linux From Scratch Registered User #16571 Please do not send me .doc, .xls, .ppt, as I will *NOT* read them. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: (b)lfs and wireless
Matt Darcy wrote: Jeremy Monnet wrote: Hi all, First of all sorry for posting on 2 lists, but I'm not quite sure which one is the best for this question. I would have thought lfs, but I read a thread on blfs these days, so I'm just not quite sure anymore. (furthermore, this would maybe be even better on the dev list ...) I haven't seen (hope I didn't miss it) any related topics for wireless, such as compilation of wireless-tools, and scripts for the wireless to be setup at startup. Not a big issue at all (I have it running on lfs 6.0 with kernel 2.6.14 for an IPW2200), but I wonder if this is plan to add this in a next book, or if there is a reason for not supporting it at all ? Because of course having something working doesn't mean at all for me that I did the right thing at the right place ... Thanks, Jeremy Truthfull, Take into account the other cards, the other specific versions required to get the cards working, ndis etc etc and it would just be unmaintainable. Truth being told in my opinion anyone who is using LFS should be able to read up on the basics of installing wirless connectivity, and there are bunch of people on the lists/irc who have done it who will help out, but as it stands I don't think its realistic or fair to expect LFS/BLFS to cover wirless connectivity. Matt. I don't think he was asking to support various wireless networking hardware or how to setup the drivers - just instructions on how to use wireless_tools. If so, then I think it shouldn't be too much to add a single page to the networking section describing how to install wireless_tools, use encryption, etc... -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: (b)lfs and wireless
On 1/13/06, Chris Staub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt Darcy wrote: Jeremy Monnet wrote: I haven't seen (hope I didn't miss it) any related topics for wireless, such as compilation of wireless-tools, and scripts for the wireless to be setup at startup. Not a big issue at all (I have it running on lfs 6.0 with kernel 2.6.14 for an IPW2200), but I wonder if this is plan to add this in a next book, or if there is a reason for not supporting it at all ? Because of course having something working doesn't mean at all for me that I did the right thing at the right place ... Truthfull, Take into account the other cards, the other specific versions required to get the cards working, ndis etc etc and it would just be unmaintainable. Truth being told in my opinion anyone who is using LFS should be able to read up on the basics of installing wirless connectivity, and there are bunch of people on the lists/irc who have done it who will help out, but as it stands I don't think its realistic or fair to expect LFS/BLFS to cover wirless connectivity. Matt. I don't think he was asking to support various wireless networking hardware or how to setup the drivers - just instructions on how to use wireless_tools. If so, then I think it shouldn't be too much to add a single page to the networking section describing how to install wireless_tools, use encryption, etc... That's right. Of course it will not be possible to support all kind of hardware (BTW same problem with video cards ...) I thought of the wireless-tools compiling in itself, and of the startup scripts. Things basic and generic such as adding a WIRELESS=(YES|NO), ESSID=?, WEP=?, variables in the ifconfig.eth1/ipv4 file for example. Same thing for other devices, nothing is said about ethernet cards, but configuration scripts for ethernet networking are present nevertheless. :-) Jeremy -- Linux Registered User #317862 Linux From Scratch Registered User #16571 Please do not send me .doc, .xls, .ppt, as I will *NOT* read them. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: (b)lfs and wireless
Jeremy Monnet wrote: On 1/13/06, Chris Staub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt Darcy wrote: Jeremy Monnet wrote: I haven't seen (hope I didn't miss it) any related topics for wireless, such as compilation of wireless-tools, and scripts for the wireless to be setup at startup. Not a big issue at all (I have it running on lfs 6.0 with kernel 2.6.14 for an IPW2200), but I wonder if this is plan to add this in a next book, or if there is a reason for not supporting it at all ? Because of course having something working doesn't mean at all for me that I did the right thing at the right place ... Truthfull, Take into account the other cards, the other specific versions required to get the cards working, ndis etc etc and it would just be unmaintainable. Truth being told in my opinion anyone who is using LFS should be able to read up on the basics of installing wirless connectivity, and there are bunch of people on the lists/irc who have done it who will help out, but as it stands I don't think its realistic or fair to expect LFS/BLFS to cover wirless connectivity. Matt. I don't think he was asking to support various wireless networking hardware or how to setup the drivers - just instructions on how to use wireless_tools. If so, then I think it shouldn't be too much to add a single page to the networking section describing how to install wireless_tools, use encryption, etc... That's right. Of course it will not be possible to support all kind of hardware (BTW same problem with video cards ...) I thought of the wireless-tools compiling in itself, and of the startup scripts. Things basic and generic such as adding a WIRELESS=(YES|NO), ESSID=?, WEP=?, variables in the ifconfig.eth1/ipv4 file for example. Same thing for other devices, nothing is said about ethernet cards, but configuration scripts for ethernet networking are present nevertheless. :-) Jeremy -- Linux Registered User #317862 Linux From Scratch Registered User #16571 Please do not send me .doc, .xls, .ppt, as I will *NOT* read them. As I tried to suggest in my earlier post, wirless tools has a fair amount of relevence to cards and drivers, again to use your example of the ipw2200 cards, search for udev/wirless-tools/kernel driver compatabiliy, you can't always use the latest wirless-tools and you can't always use stable to get your card to work, I don't see a need for it in blfs (however thats the editors call) what about ndis ? does that get included in wirless support page ? The boot scripts in lfs and blfs-bootscripts do not support wirless card parameters such as ESSID or encryption so putting them in there will do nothing on most cards. Also wirless tools is a real fussy program with regard to gcc versions (its getting much better) I think the blfs books is tough for the editors to do a good job with due to the sheer volume of packages in it and I believe a usefull wirless network page in the book would require a good deal of maintenance, however I don't work on blfs so its down to the editors, but thats my view on it. Matt -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: (b)lfs and wireless
Matt Darcy wrote these words on 01/13/06 14:12 CST: [snip all 87 lines] Matt, could you _please_ start trimming some of the previous post(s) before you reply? Please. -- Randy rmlscsi: [GNU ld version 2.15.94.0.2 20041220] [gcc (GCC) 3.4.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.4] [Linux 2.6.10 i686] 14:27:00 up 110 days, 23:51, 3 users, load average: 0.20, 0.32, 0.49 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: (b)lfs and wireless
Randy McMurchy wrote: Matt Darcy wrote these words on 01/13/06 14:12 CST: [snip all 87 lines] Matt, could you _please_ start trimming some of the previous post(s) before you reply? Please. sorry - I an arse for that. Matt -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
