Re: grub problem

2009-11-25 Thread su.sinnes
1) grub's kernel/linux line, the root=/dev/[is_incorrect] parameter
2) fstab's:  [is_incorrect] / root line

Kernel may panic if it can't find its system in (1)
Kernel may find (1), but (2) is wrong

(1) and (2) can even be different if the kernel can use it.

okay is there any other 64 bit boot loader that i can use instead of 
grub2?
i have tried:
installed kernel with every single thing with a *
changing my device map to  (sd0) /dev/sda
rebooted = error kernel panic
reverted to snapshot.

tried changing fstab in every variation i could think of.
rebooted every time
error kernel panic
reverted to snapshot.

changed the /boot/grub/grub.cfg and the fstab with every variation i 
could think of.
rebooted every time
error kernel panic
reverted to snapshot.

it must be grub2 that is the problem.

is there anything i can do? Or do i have to wait until the LFS book for 
64 bit with grub2 gets out?

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Re: grub problem

2009-11-25 Thread linux fan
On 11/25/09, su.sinnes wrote:

 is there anything i can do?


We've all been down this road before ... whatever we do, grub doesn't
seem to work ...

You have gotten grub to load a kernel ... that is getting close.

The key marked PrtScr SysRq can stop the display from scrolling
while booting -- you have to be quick.
 / CTRL-Q resume scolling

Can you get with pencil and paper the messages that happen just before the pan
ic.


Does kernel config include CONFIG_EXT3_FS=y
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Re: grub problem

2009-11-25 Thread su.sinnes
The key marked PrtScr SysRq can stop the display from scrolling
while booting -- you have to be quick.
 / CTRL-Q resume scolling

Can you get with pencil and paper the messages that happen just 
before the panic.

it did not work i think it's because im on a laptop and i need to hold 
down the fn key to use prt sc and sysrq, and it is not supported.
neither did ctrl + s

Does kernel config include CONFIG_EXT3_FS=y

vim /boot/config-2.6.31.6
CONFIG_EXT3_FS=y
its on.
also CONFIG_ETX2_FS=y
CONFIG_ETX4_FS=y

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Re: grub problem

2009-11-25 Thread Ken Moffat
2009/11/25 su.sinnes su.sin...@mail.com:
 1) grub's kernel/linux line, the root=/dev/[is_incorrect] parameter
 2) fstab's:  [is_incorrect] / root line
 
 Kernel may panic if it can't find its system in (1)
 Kernel may find (1), but (2) is wrong

 (1) and (2) can even be different if the kernel can use it.

 okay is there any other 64 bit boot loader that i can use instead of
 grub2?

 Well, you could use lilo (which needs bin86) - see the clfs
x86_64-64 book.  But I don't think it will be an efficient way
for you to proceed.

 If you get a kernel panic, that comes from linux - the
bootloader has done it's job.

 In the parameters you give the bootloader, there
is a line root=/dev/XYZ : you said you were using
a SATA drive, sothe root would normally be on e.g.
/dev/sda5.

 After that, it's down to the kernel's .config.

 Earlier, I think you said you were using vmware ?
This is probably the key to the problem - I'm guessing
it needs a specific disk driver, and perhaps that is
not part of the linux kernel (because vmware is a
proprietary product).  Maybe there is a vmware
support list or forum where you can ask for help ?

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Re: grub problem

2009-11-25 Thread linux fan
On 11/25/09, su.sinnes wrote:
 The key marked PrtScr SysRq can stop the display from scrolling
 it did not work i think it's because im on a laptop and i need to hold
 down the fn key to use prt sc and sysrq, and it is not supported.
 neither did ctrl + s

OOPS, I might have typed before I had my coffee ...

I might have meant the Pause Break key ... let me try that.
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Re: grub problem

2009-11-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote:

  Earlier, I think you said you were using vmware ?
 This is probably the key to the problem - I'm guessing
 it needs a specific disk driver, and perhaps that is
 not part of the linux kernel (because vmware is a
 proprietary product).  Maybe there is a vmware
 support list or forum where you can ask for help ?

I did a vmware build a while ago (looks like 2 years ago) -- LFS 6.3.  I 
didn't have any problems there.  I don't recall anything special, but 
all the IDE configs are on and also CONFIG_SCSI_BUSLOGIC.  The cdrom is 
/dev/hdc and I had configured it for two drives so I have sda and sdb.

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Re: grub problem

2009-11-25 Thread linux fan
On 11/23/09, su.sinnes su.sin...@mail.com wrote:
 Hi im stuck with grub, as soon as i restart i get into the grub shell

I reserve the right to be wrong, but ...
While you can't compile the old grub under 64bit, you could still use
the old grub ... can't you?
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Re: grub problem

2009-11-24 Thread Duncan Baynes
What is the brand and model of the motherboard you are trying to use to 
boot this LFS system?

It's rare but occasionally you need to compile some less than obvious 
drivers into the kernel to make the system boot properly.
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Re: grub problem

2009-11-24 Thread Duncan Baynes
su.sinnes wrote:
 What is the brand and model of the motherboard you are trying to use 
 to
 boot this LFS system?

 I am using vmware


   
   
Which file system are you using?
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Re: grub problem

2009-11-24 Thread su.sinnes
Which file system are you using?

/dev/sda1 on /mnt/lfs type ext3 (rw)

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Re: grub problem

2009-11-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
su.sinnes wrote:

 I put an * on everything with, SATA, and all filesystems, and a lot of 
 other things for this recompilation.
 and i changed file under /boot/grub/device.map
 (hd0) /dev/sda
 to
 (sd0) /dev/sda
 
  then ran grub-mkconfig -o /boot/boot/grub/grub.cfg
 again.
 
 do you think its the kernel or is something in grub that seems to be 
 the problem?

If you are getting a kernel panic, it's not grub.  Grub did it's job and 
loaded the kernel, then the kernel had a problem.

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Re: grub problem

2009-11-24 Thread linux fan
On 11/24/09, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
 If you are getting a kernel panic, it's not grub.  Grub did it's job and
 loaded the kernel, then the kernel had a problem.

Agree.
But, there are 2 places that cause kernel panic:

1) grub's kernel/linux line, the root=/dev/[is_incorrect] parameter
2) fstab's:  [is_incorrect] / root line

Kernel may panic if it can't find its system in (1)
Kernel may find (1), but (2) is wrong

(1) and (2) can even be different if the kernel can use it.
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Re: grub problem

2009-11-23 Thread Michael Tsang
On Monday 23 November 2009 21:27:37 su.sinnes wrote:
 Hi im stuck with grub, as soon as i restart i get into the grub shell
 and when i type boot it says no loaded kernel.
 but if i do:
  1) made a file under /boot/grub/device.map as Bruce
 (hd0) /dev/sda
 
 2) grub-install --root-directory=/boot/ /dev/sda
 
 3) grub-mkconfig -o /boot/boot/grub/grub.cfg
 
 then it boots up and i get a  kernel panic , not syncing:VFS:unable to
 mount root
 fs on unknown-block(2,0)
 
 i have recompiled the kernel 4 times now and i have selected all SATA
 drivers, and ext 2 filesystem.
 but no luck.
 
 Anyone got any ideas?
 
 Thank you.
 

Can you show me the last few lines of the screen when the machine hangs?


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Re: GRUB Problem

2008-03-13 Thread Richard Melville

 This is really maddening because I'm so close to finishing, I'm on
 section 8.4 of lfs 6.3, Making the LFS System Bootable and when I
 use grub it gives me Error 21: Selected disk does not exist.  The
 host distribution is Ubuntu 7.10 and since I'm new to this I haven't
 deviated from the book.  Thanks.
 Ben
   
Without seeing your menu.lst file and what partition(s) you are using
it's hard to comment.  I assume that you are aware of the difference
between the GRUB partition naming convention and that of Linux, e.g.
(hd0,0) ==hda1.  Also, I'm not sure what you mean by when I use GRUB;
do you mean when you boot LFS?

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Re: GRUB Problem

2008-03-13 Thread Ben Feinberg
Sorry for being unclear, this error is occurring when I use the root
(hd1,3) command in section 8.4 to make the system bootable.  I am
aware of the different naming scheme, lfs is on partition sdb4 which
(I think) corresponds to hd1,3, although I don't think that is the
problem because I get the same error when I root (hd0,  TAB so it
appears as if GRUB doesn't recognize that hard drive either.
The partition set up
sda1-Window
sdb1-Data
sdb2-Ubuntu
sdb3-swap
sdb4-LFS

Sorry if this doesn't show up in the right thread location, I'm new at this.
Ben

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 4:48 AM, Richard Melville
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   This is really maddening because I'm so close to finishing, I'm on
   section 8.4 of lfs 6.3, Making the LFS System Bootable and when I
   use grub it gives me Error 21: Selected disk does not exist.  The
   host distribution is Ubuntu 7.10 and since I'm new to this I haven't
   deviated from the book.  Thanks.
   Ben
  
  Without seeing your menu.lst file and what partition(s) you are using
  it's hard to comment.  I assume that you are aware of the difference
  between the GRUB partition naming convention and that of Linux, e.g.
  (hd0,0) ==hda1.  Also, I'm not sure what you mean by when I use GRUB;
  do you mean when you boot LFS?

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RE: GRUB Problem

2008-03-13 Thread Spahn, Daniel

Sorry for being unclear, this error is occurring when I use the root
(hd1,3) command in section 8.4 to make the system bootable.  I am
aware of the different naming scheme, lfs is on partition sdb4 which
(I think) corresponds to hd1,3, although I don't think that is the
problem because I get the same error when I root (hd0,  TAB so it
appears as if GRUB doesn't recognize that hard drive either.
The partition set up
sda1-Window
sdb1-Data
sdb2-Ubuntu
sdb3-swap
sdb4-LFS


What are the contents of your /boot/grub/device.map?
I can't remember how this distro does it, but you can use the grub shell
to configure grub, which has smart tab completion- it may answer your
questions about which drive it sees and how.

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Re: GRUB Problem

2008-03-13 Thread Baho Utot

On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 10:46 -0700, Ben Feinberg wrote:
 Sorry for being unclear, this error is occurring when I use the root
 (hd1,3) command in section 8.4 to make the system bootable.  I am
 aware of the different naming scheme, lfs is on partition sdb4 which
 (I think) corresponds to hd1,3, although I don't think that is the
 problem because I get the same error when I root (hd0,  TAB so it
 appears as if GRUB doesn't recognize that hard drive either.
 The partition set up
 sda1-Window
 sdb1-Data
 sdb2-Ubuntu
 sdb3-swap
 sdb4-LFS
 
 Sorry if this doesn't show up in the right thread location, I'm new at this.
 Ben
 

Ok what happens when you type grub

you should see 

grub

then type at the prompt

root (hd1,3)

It should say:

 Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83


If that is working the grub can see and connect to your LFS partition.

setup (hd,0)

will then overwrite the first drive boot loader (Windows drive)

From this point you will need to have the menu.lst file correct or you
will only be able to boot LFS.

Make sure that this is in your menu.lst 

title Windows
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader +1

You will need to copy the Ubuntu section from the menu.lst
on /dev/sdb2 /boot filesystem or Ubuntu won't boot.


I had similar trouble and I downloaded and burned the LFS Live CD and
booted that.  I then could install and setup grub, I just could not
get it to work from host system or from chroot.  After I installed and
setup grub using the LFS LiveCD all was fine.

Hope this helps.

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Re: GRUB problem

2006-02-27 Thread Josh


 simply follow the chapter 8 instructions on making grub install
 itself
 back into the MBR I type in root(hd0,0) and it replys:
 Error 21:  Selected disk does not exist
 So I just type in root to find out what does exist and it replys:
 (fd0):  Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x0
 

if i'm wrong, someone more knowledgeable than me please correct me.  it
sounds like you still need to load your devices, what was the command?
udevstart, i think.  also, as long as you point grub to the correct
places, you should be able to install grub regardless of whether you've
ran chroot.  but for the disk does not exist issue, that sounds like
you just forgot to populate /dev.

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Re: GRUB problem

2006-02-27 Thread Chris Staub

Ellis Wilson wrote:

Hey all,
Finally finished my shiny new linux system, ran great, then went and
wanted to install Win2Kpro on the third partition on my harddisk (1st is
LFS, 2nd swap, 3rd Win2k).  I put windows on and miraculously it treats
my system like its the only OS on it.  No big deal I think and put in
the lfs disk I downloaded from the site and go back in, mount my system
(which looks fine/untoutched), chroot in, and go into grub.  Planning to
simply follow the chapter 8 instructions on making grub install itself
back into the MBR I type in root(hd0,0) and it replys:
Error 21:  Selected disk does not exist
So I just type in root to find out what does exist and it replys:
(fd0):  Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x0

I have no clue what to do and even when I try to root(fd0) it gives me
the same (first) reply.

Thanks all trying not to lose a weeks worth of learning linux and
building my own system.

Ellis


You don't need to chroot to install grub. Just run grub directory from 
the livecd.

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Re: GRUB problem

2006-02-27 Thread Ellis Wilson
Thanks worked perfect :D

- Original Message -
From: Chris Staub [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, February 27, 2006 11:22 pm
Subject: Re: GRUB problem

 Ellis Wilson wrote:
  Hey all,
  Finally finished my shiny new linux system, ran great, then went and
  wanted to install Win2Kpro on the third partition on my harddisk 
 (1st is
  LFS, 2nd swap, 3rd Win2k).  I put windows on and miraculously it 
 treats my system like its the only OS on it.  No big deal I think 
 and put in
  the lfs disk I downloaded from the site and go back in, mount my 
 system (which looks fine/untoutched), chroot in, and go into 
 grub.  Planning to
  simply follow the chapter 8 instructions on making grub install 
 itself back into the MBR I type in root(hd0,0) and it replys:
  Error 21:  Selected disk does not exist
  So I just type in root to find out what does exist and it replys:
  (fd0):  Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x0
  
  I have no clue what to do and even when I try to root(fd0) it 
 gives me
  the same (first) reply.
  
  Thanks all trying not to lose a weeks worth of learning linux and
  building my own system.
  
  Ellis
 
 You don't need to chroot to install grub. Just run grub directory 
 from 
 the livecd.
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Re: GRUB problem

2006-02-27 Thread Ellis Wilson
Thanks a lot your tips worked perfect my linux system is up and running
again and grub is fine.  Take care and thanks again.

- Original Message -
From: Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, February 27, 2006 11:06 pm
Subject: Re: GRUB problem

 
 
  simply follow the chapter 8 instructions on making grub install
  itself
  back into the MBR I type in root(hd0,0) and it replys:
  Error 21:  Selected disk does not exist
  So I just type in root to find out what does exist and it replys:
  (fd0):  Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x0
  
 
 if i'm wrong, someone more knowledgeable than me please correct 
 me.  it
 sounds like you still need to load your devices, what was the command?
 udevstart, i think.  also, as long as you point grub to the correct
 places, you should be able to install grub regardless of whether 
 you'veran chroot.  but for the disk does not exist issue, that 
 sounds like
 you just forgot to populate /dev.
 
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Re: GRUB problem

2006-02-27 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 2/27/06, Ellis Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey all,
 Finally finished my shiny new linux system, ran great, then went and
 wanted to install Win2Kpro on the third partition on my harddisk (1st is
 LFS, 2nd swap, 3rd Win2k).

Yes, thanks to Microsoft for assuming that everyone wants their
bootloader.  In all the dual-boot docs I've ever read, they always say
install Windows first for this very reason.  Incidentally, a few weeks
back I was installing FC4 as a test host, and found that it was pretty
difficult to disable it from installing their GRUB.

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Re: grub problem: LFS (v6.1.1) Sec 6.45 and 8.4

2006-02-14 Thread Alan Lord

David J. Hong wrote:

I successfully installed grub in section 6.45 and run grub shell in
section 8.4, following error appears:


grub root (hd0,7)

Error 21: Selected disk does not exist


snip

When you are entering the grub shell in section 8.4 have you made sure 
that you have re-entered your chroot environment correctly and made sure 
that your /dev /proc /sys are mounted and that you have populated the 
/dev (in chroot) by running udevstart?


This is normally what catches me out :-)

Al

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