Re: [liberationtech] liberationtech Digest, Vol 169, Issue 1
That would require common sense, which is obviously lacking in this individual. On Wednesday, August 21, 2013, Shelley wrote: So, of course the obvious solution is to make a snotty drama comment and quote an entire digest-- instead of, you know, unsubscibing yourself with the link included in every email. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013, at 12:29 AM, William Koplitz wrote: Whole lot of navel-gazing. Unsubscibe. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu javascript:;. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
[liberationtech] Dubious sources feed national-security reporter Eli Lake a fraudulent story for political purposes — once again
How very surprising. http://harpers.org/blog/2013/08/anatomy-of-an-al-qaeda-conference-call/ Anatomy of an Al Qaeda “Conference Call” Dubious sources feed national-security reporter Eli Lake a fraudulent story for political purposes — once again By Ken Silverstein Share Single Page Cartoon by C. Clyde Squires (September 1907) Two years ago, following the raid that killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan, a number of journalists wrote dramatic accounts of the Al Qaeda leader’s last moments. One such story, co-authored by Eli Lake in the Washington Times, cited Obama administration officials and an unnamed military source, described how bin Laden had “reached for a weapon to try to defend himself” during the intense firefight at his compound, and then “was shot by Navy SEALs after trying to use a woman reputed to be his wife as a human shield.” It was exciting stuff, but it turned out to have been fictitious propaganda concocted by U.S. authorities to destroy bin Laden’s image in the eyes of his followers. Based on what we know now, the SEALs met virtually no resistance at the compound, there was no firefight, bin Laden didn’t use a woman as a human shield, and he was unarmed. The White House blamed the misleading early reports on the “fog of war,” but as Will Saletan pointed out in Slate, “A fog of war creates confusion, not a consistent story like the one about the human shield. The reason U.S. officials bought and sold this story is that it fit their larger indictment of Bin Laden. It reinforced the shameful picture of him hiding in a mansion while sending others to fight and die. It made him look like a coward.” Many reporters uncritically rushed the government’s account into print. For Lake, though, it fit a career pattern of credulously planting dubious stories from sources with strong political agendas.[*] [*] I should disclose that Lake and I aren’t on friendly terms. We were until a few years ago, when I received a tip that led to a 2011 story showing that Lake, who regularly praised the government of the former Soviet republic of Georgia, was a close friend of one of the country’s Washington lobbyists, and that the lobbyist sometimes picked up his bar and restaurant tabs. After the story was published, Lake and his friends, some of whom had flown to Georgia on junkets paid for by the same lobbyist, took to Twitter to denounce me. Which brings us to the news story that Lake and Josh Rogin broke for the Daily Beast last week, in which they reported that the “crucial intercept that prompted the U.S. government to close embassies in 22 countries was a conference call between al Qaeda’s senior leaders and representatives of several of the group’s affiliates throughout the region.” The story said that among the “more than 20 operatives” on the call was Ayman al-Zawahiri, who the piece claimed was managing a global organization with affiliates in Africa, Asia, and the Middle East. Other Al Qaeda participants involved in the call reportedly represented affiliates operating in Iraq, the Islamic Maghreb, Nigeria, Pakistan, the Sinai Peninsula, and Uzbekistan. The sources for the story were three U.S. officials “familiar with the intelligence.” “This was like a meeting of the Legion of Doom,” one told Lake and Rogin. “All you need to do is look at that list of places we shut down to get a sense of who was on the phone call.” The piece also cited Republican senator John McCain, who drew a predictably grim conclusion from the news. “This may punch a sizable hole in the theory that Al Qaeda is on the run,” he said. “There was a gross underestimation by this administration of Al Qaeda’s overall ability to replenish itself.” The story was picked up widely, especially on the right. On his show, Rush Limbaugh charged that the Obama “regime” had leaked the story for political gain. “They leak it,” he explained, “so as to make Obama look big and competent and tough and make this administration look like nobody’s gonna get anything past them.” Then a number of respected national-security journalists began to question the motives of the leakers, and to cast doubt on the story generally. Ken Dilanian of the Los Angeles Times suggested that the piece was intended to glorify the NSA’s signals-intelligence capabilities. Barton Gellman of the Washington Post said there was something “very wrong” with the whole thing. New York magazine got in on the act by parodying the notion of an Al Qaeda conference call. Despite this tide of doubt and ridicule, the Daily Beast didn’t correct the story, though Lake and Rogin made statements that seemed designed to alter its meaning. “We used ‘conference call’ because it was generic enough,” Lake tweeted. “But it was not a telephone based communications.” In another tweet he informed Ben Wedeman of CNN, “This may be a generational issue, but you can conduct conference calls without a telephone.” (Actually, you can’t, at least according to the dictionary. Moreover, the “Legion
Re: [liberationtech] Dubious sources feed national-security reporter Eli Lake a fraudulent story for political purposes — once again
Blogged On Aug 21, 2013 5:40 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: How very surprising. http://harpers.org/blog/2013/08/anatomy-of-an-al-qaeda-conference-call/ Anatomy of an Al Qaeda “Conference Call” Dubious sources feed national-security reporter Eli Lake a fraudulent story for political purposes — once again By Ken Silverstein Share Single Page Cartoon by C. Clyde Squires (September 1907) Two years ago, following the raid that killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan, a number of journalists wrote dramatic accounts of the Al Qaeda leader’s last moments. One such story, co-authored by Eli Lake in the Washington Times, cited Obama administration officials and an unnamed military source, described how bin Laden had “reached for a weapon to try to defend himself” during the intense firefight at his compound, and then “was shot by Navy SEALs after trying to use a woman reputed to be his wife as a human shield.” It was exciting stuff, but it turned out to have been fictitious propaganda concocted by U.S. authorities to destroy bin Laden’s image in the eyes of his followers. Based on what we know now, the SEALs met virtually no resistance at the compound, there was no firefight, bin Laden didn’t use a woman as a human shield, and he was unarmed. The White House blamed the misleading early reports on the “fog of war,” but as Will Saletan pointed out in Slate, “A fog of war creates confusion, not a consistent story like the one about the human shield. The reason U.S. officials bought and sold this story is that it fit their larger indictment of Bin Laden. It reinforced the shameful picture of him hiding in a mansion while sending others to fight and die. It made him look like a coward.” Many reporters uncritically rushed the government’s account into print. For Lake, though, it fit a career pattern of credulously planting dubious stories from sources with strong political agendas.[*] [*] I should disclose that Lake and I aren’t on friendly terms. We were until a few years ago, when I received a tip that led to a 2011 story showing that Lake, who regularly praised the government of the former Soviet republic of Georgia, was a close friend of one of the country’s Washington lobbyists, and that the lobbyist sometimes picked up his bar and restaurant tabs. After the story was published, Lake and his friends, some of whom had flown to Georgia on junkets paid for by the same lobbyist, took to Twitter to denounce me. Which brings us to the news story that Lake and Josh Rogin broke for the Daily Beast last week, in which they reported that the “crucial intercept that prompted the U.S. government to close embassies in 22 countries was a conference call between al Qaeda’s senior leaders and representatives of several of the group’s affiliates throughout the region.” The story said that among the “more than 20 operatives” on the call was Ayman al-Zawahiri, who the piece claimed was managing a global organization with affiliates in Africa, Asia, and the Middle East. Other Al Qaeda participants involved in the call reportedly represented affiliates operating in Iraq, the Islamic Maghreb, Nigeria, Pakistan, the Sinai Peninsula, and Uzbekistan. The sources for the story were three U.S. officials “familiar with the intelligence.” “This was like a meeting of the Legion of Doom,” one told Lake and Rogin. “All you need to do is look at that list of places we shut down to get a sense of who was on the phone call.” The piece also cited Republican senator John McCain, who drew a predictably grim conclusion from the news. “This may punch a sizable hole in the theory that Al Qaeda is on the run,” he said. “There was a gross underestimation by this administration of Al Qaeda’s overall ability to replenish itself.” The story was picked up widely, especially on the right. On his show, Rush Limbaugh charged that the Obama “regime” had leaked the story for political gain. “They leak it,” he explained, “so as to make Obama look big and competent and tough and make this administration look like nobody’s gonna get anything past them.” Then a number of respected national-security journalists began to question the motives of the leakers, and to cast doubt on the story generally. Ken Dilanian of the Los Angeles Times suggested that the piece was intended to glorify the NSA’s signals-intelligence capabilities. Barton Gellman of the Washington Post said there was something “very wrong” with the whole thing. New York magazine got in on the act by parodying the notion of an Al Qaeda conference call. Despite this tide of doubt and ridicule, the Daily Beast didn’t correct the story, though Lake and Rogin made statements that seemed designed to alter its meaning. “We used ‘conference call’ because it was generic enough,” Lake tweeted. “But it was not a telephone based communications.” In another tweet he informed Ben Wedeman of CNN, “This may be a
[liberationtech] CAMRI Seminar (Sep 25): Vincent Mosco on the Political Economy of Cloud Computing and Big Data
To the Cloud: Big Data in a Turbulent World September 25, 2013 02:00pm-04:00pm Room A7.03, Harrow Campus, University of Westminster, Communication and Media Research Institute (CAMRI), London: Northwick Park tube station (Metropolitan Line) Full information: http://www.westminster.ac.uk/research/a-z/camri/seminars/camri-seminar-calendar/2013/to-the-cloud-big-data-in-a-turbulent-world Opening talk of this autumn’s CAMRI Research Seminar Series (announcement of further dates/events will follow) Participation Participation is free and everyone is welcome. Please register at latest until 22 September by sending an email to Christian Fuchs: christian.fu...@uti.at. Abstract This presentation offers an account of the political, economic, social and cultural issues emerging from the growth of cloud computing. It starts by situating cloud computing as a major force in the globalisation of informational capitalism and in the advance of a particular way of knowing, what I call digital positivism. It proceeds to examine the origins of cloud computing in the movements that arose in the pre-internet era to create an information utility. The presentation then defines cloud computing, describes its major characteristics, and identifies the leading corporate, and government cloud players. In doing so, it describes the battles for market power among a handful of companies such as Amazon, Apple, Google, Microsoft, Facebook, and Rackspace, the rapid and, for some, worrisome, expansion of the government cloud, the internationalisation of cloud computing, and the emergence of bottom-up community cloud projects. Next, it considers how the cloud is being marketed and mythologised through advertising, social media, corporate and government research, industry lobbying, and marketing events. Massive promotion is essential because dark clouds are gathering over the industry including the environmental problems created by data centres; concerns over privacy, security, and surveillance; and labour issues, particularly the impact on IT departments, and more generally on knowledge workers whose jobs are threatened by the cloud. The presentation concludes by offering a technical and a cultural critique of big data, digital positivism, and the cloud’s “way of knowing.” Biography Dr Vincent Mosco is Professor Emeritus, Queen's University, Canada. He is formerly Canada Research Chair in Communication and Society and Professor of Sociology. He is author of many works, including The Political Economy of Communication, second edition (Sage, 2009), The Laboring of Communication: Will Knowledge Workers of the World Unite (co-authored with Catherine McKercher, Lexington Books, 2008), and The Digital Sublime: Myth, Power, and Cyberspace (MIT Press, 2004). -- Christian Fuchs Professor of Social Media University of Westminster, Communication and Media Research Institute http://fuchs.uti.at, http://www.triple-c.at @fuchschristian +44 (0) 20 7911 5000 ext 67380 -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Dubious sources feed national-security reporter Eli Lake a fraudulent story for political purposes — once again
Wells, what elasticidad would you expectativas from The Washington Times? On Aug 21, 2013 4:40 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: How very surprising. http://harpers.org/blog/2013/08/anatomy-of-an-al-qaeda-conference-call/ Anatomy of an Al Qaeda “Conference Call” Dubious sources feed national-security reporter Eli Lake a fraudulent story for political purposes — once again By Ken Silverstein Share Single Page Cartoon by C. Clyde Squires (September 1907) Two years ago, following the raid that killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan, a number of journalists wrote dramatic accounts of the Al Qaeda leader’s last moments. One such story, co-authored by Eli Lake in the Washington Times, cited Obama administration officials and an unnamed military source, described how bin Laden had “reached for a weapon to try to defend himself” during the intense firefight at his compound, and then “was shot by Navy SEALs after trying to use a woman reputed to be his wife as a human shield.” It was exciting stuff, but it turned out to have been fictitious propaganda concocted by U.S. authorities to destroy bin Laden’s image in the eyes of his followers. Based on what we know now, the SEALs met virtually no resistance at the compound, there was no firefight, bin Laden didn’t use a woman as a human shield, and he was unarmed. The White House blamed the misleading early reports on the “fog of war,” but as Will Saletan pointed out in Slate, “A fog of war creates confusion, not a consistent story like the one about the human shield. The reason U.S. officials bought and sold this story is that it fit their larger indictment of Bin Laden. It reinforced the shameful picture of him hiding in a mansion while sending others to fight and die. It made him look like a coward.” Many reporters uncritically rushed the government’s account into print. For Lake, though, it fit a career pattern of credulously planting dubious stories from sources with strong political agendas.[*] [*] I should disclose that Lake and I aren’t on friendly terms. We were until a few years ago, when I received a tip that led to a 2011 story showing that Lake, who regularly praised the government of the former Soviet republic of Georgia, was a close friend of one of the country’s Washington lobbyists, and that the lobbyist sometimes picked up his bar and restaurant tabs. After the story was published, Lake and his friends, some of whom had flown to Georgia on junkets paid for by the same lobbyist, took to Twitter to denounce me. Which brings us to the news story that Lake and Josh Rogin broke for the Daily Beast last week, in which they reported that the “crucial intercept that prompted the U.S. government to close embassies in 22 countries was a conference call between al Qaeda’s senior leaders and representatives of several of the group’s affiliates throughout the region.” The story said that among the “more than 20 operatives” on the call was Ayman al-Zawahiri, who the piece claimed was managing a global organization with affiliates in Africa, Asia, and the Middle East. Other Al Qaeda participants involved in the call reportedly represented affiliates operating in Iraq, the Islamic Maghreb, Nigeria, Pakistan, the Sinai Peninsula, and Uzbekistan. The sources for the story were three U.S. officials “familiar with the intelligence.” “This was like a meeting of the Legion of Doom,” one told Lake and Rogin. “All you need to do is look at that list of places we shut down to get a sense of who was on the phone call.” The piece also cited Republican senator John McCain, who drew a predictably grim conclusion from the news. “This may punch a sizable hole in the theory that Al Qaeda is on the run,” he said. “There was a gross underestimation by this administration of Al Qaeda’s overall ability to replenish itself.” The story was picked up widely, especially on the right. On his show, Rush Limbaugh charged that the Obama “regime” had leaked the story for political gain. “They leak it,” he explained, “so as to make Obama look big and competent and tough and make this administration look like nobody’s gonna get anything past them.” Then a number of respected national-security journalists began to question the motives of the leakers, and to cast doubt on the story generally. Ken Dilanian of the Los Angeles Times suggested that the piece was intended to glorify the NSA’s signals-intelligence capabilities. Barton Gellman of the Washington Post said there was something “very wrong” with the whole thing. New York magazine got in on the act by parodying the notion of an Al Qaeda conference call. Despite this tide of doubt and ridicule, the Daily Beast didn’t correct the story, though Lake and Rogin made statements that seemed designed to alter its meaning. “We used ‘conference call’ because it was generic enough,” Lake tweeted. “But it was not a telephone based communications.” In
Re: [liberationtech] Dubious sources feed national-security reporter Eli Lake a fraudulent story for political purposes — once again
Sorry, language mismatch in auto-corrector.. On Aug 21, 2013 8:29 AM, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes alps6...@gmail.com wrote: Wells, what elasticidad would you expectativas from The Washington Times? On Aug 21, 2013 4:40 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: How very surprising. http://harpers.org/blog/2013/08/anatomy-of-an-al-qaeda-conference-call/ Anatomy of an Al Qaeda “Conference Call” Dubious sources feed national-security reporter Eli Lake a fraudulent story for political purposes — once again By Ken Silverstein Share Single Page Cartoon by C. Clyde Squires (September 1907) Two years ago, following the raid that killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan, a number of journalists wrote dramatic accounts of the Al Qaeda leader’s last moments. One such story, co-authored by Eli Lake in the Washington Times, cited Obama administration officials and an unnamed military source, described how bin Laden had “reached for a weapon to try to defend himself” during the intense firefight at his compound, and then “was shot by Navy SEALs after trying to use a woman reputed to be his wife as a human shield.” It was exciting stuff, but it turned out to have been fictitious propaganda concocted by U.S. authorities to destroy bin Laden’s image in the eyes of his followers. Based on what we know now, the SEALs met virtually no resistance at the compound, there was no firefight, bin Laden didn’t use a woman as a human shield, and he was unarmed. The White House blamed the misleading early reports on the “fog of war,” but as Will Saletan pointed out in Slate, “A fog of war creates confusion, not a consistent story like the one about the human shield. The reason U.S. officials bought and sold this story is that it fit their larger indictment of Bin Laden. It reinforced the shameful picture of him hiding in a mansion while sending others to fight and die. It made him look like a coward.” Many reporters uncritically rushed the government’s account into print. For Lake, though, it fit a career pattern of credulously planting dubious stories from sources with strong political agendas.[*] [*] I should disclose that Lake and I aren’t on friendly terms. We were until a few years ago, when I received a tip that led to a 2011 story showing that Lake, who regularly praised the government of the former Soviet republic of Georgia, was a close friend of one of the country’s Washington lobbyists, and that the lobbyist sometimes picked up his bar and restaurant tabs. After the story was published, Lake and his friends, some of whom had flown to Georgia on junkets paid for by the same lobbyist, took to Twitter to denounce me. Which brings us to the news story that Lake and Josh Rogin broke for the Daily Beast last week, in which they reported that the “crucial intercept that prompted the U.S. government to close embassies in 22 countries was a conference call between al Qaeda’s senior leaders and representatives of several of the group’s affiliates throughout the region.” The story said that among the “more than 20 operatives” on the call was Ayman al-Zawahiri, who the piece claimed was managing a global organization with affiliates in Africa, Asia, and the Middle East. Other Al Qaeda participants involved in the call reportedly represented affiliates operating in Iraq, the Islamic Maghreb, Nigeria, Pakistan, the Sinai Peninsula, and Uzbekistan. The sources for the story were three U.S. officials “familiar with the intelligence.” “This was like a meeting of the Legion of Doom,” one told Lake and Rogin. “All you need to do is look at that list of places we shut down to get a sense of who was on the phone call.” The piece also cited Republican senator John McCain, who drew a predictably grim conclusion from the news. “This may punch a sizable hole in the theory that Al Qaeda is on the run,” he said. “There was a gross underestimation by this administration of Al Qaeda’s overall ability to replenish itself.” The story was picked up widely, especially on the right. On his show, Rush Limbaugh charged that the Obama “regime” had leaked the story for political gain. “They leak it,” he explained, “so as to make Obama look big and competent and tough and make this administration look like nobody’s gonna get anything past them.” Then a number of respected national-security journalists began to question the motives of the leakers, and to cast doubt on the story generally. Ken Dilanian of the Los Angeles Times suggested that the piece was intended to glorify the NSA’s signals-intelligence capabilities. Barton Gellman of the Washington Post said there was something “very wrong” with the whole thing. New York magazine got in on the act by parodying the notion of an Al Qaeda conference call. Despite this tide of doubt and ridicule, the Daily Beast didn’t correct the story, though Lake and Rogin made statements that seemed designed
[liberationtech] Bradley Manning's sentence: 35 years for exposing us to the truth
Outrageous. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/21/bradley-manning-sentence-birgitta-jonsdottir Bradley Manning's sentence: 35 years for exposing us to the truth This was never a fair trial – Obama declared Manning's guilt in advance. But Manning's punishment is an affront to democracy Birgitta Jónsdóttir theguardian.com, Wednesday 21 August 2013 10.29 EDT Jump to comments (…) Link to video: Bradley Manning: 35 years in jail for an outsider who had trouble fitting in –nbsp;video As of today, Wednesday 21 August 2013, Bradley Manning has served 1,182 days in prison. He should be released with a sentence of time served. Instead, the judge in his court martial at Fort Meade, Maryland has handed down a sentence of 35 years. Of course, a humane, reasonable sentence of time served was never going to happen. This trial has, since day one, been held in a kangaroo court. That is not angry rhetoric; the reason I am forced to frame it in that way is because President Obama made the following statements on record, before the trial even started: President Obama: We're a nation of laws. We don't individually make our own decisions about how the laws operate … He broke the law. Logan Price: Well, you can make the law harder to break, but what he did was tell us the truth. President Obama: Well, what he did was he dumped … Logan Price: But Nixon tried to prosecute Daniel Ellsberg for the same thing and he is a … [hero] President Obama: No, it isn't the same thing … What Ellsberg released wasn't classified in the same way. When the president says that the Ellsberg's material was classified in a different way, he seems to be unaware that there was a higher classification on the documents Ellsberg leaked. A fair trial, then, has never been part of the picture. Despite being a professor in constitutional law, the president as commander-in-chief of the US military – and Manning has been tried in a court martial – declared Manning's guilt pre-emptively. Here is what the Pentagon Papers leaker Daniel Ellsberg had to say about this, in an interview with Amy Goodman at DemocracyNow! in 2011: Well, nearly everything the president has said represents a confusion about the state of the law and his own responsibilities. Everyone is focused, I think, on the fact that his commander-in-chief has virtually given a directed verdict to his subsequent jurors, who will all be his subordinates in deciding the guilt in the trial of Bradley Manning. He's told them already that their commander, on whom their whole career depends, regards him [Manning] as guilty and that they can disagree with that only at their peril. In career terms, it's clearly enough grounds for a dismissal of the charges, just as my trial was dismissed eventually for governmental misconduct. But what people haven't really focused on, I think, is another problematic aspect of what he said. He not only was identifying Bradley Manning as the source of the crime, but he was assuming, without any question, that a crime has been committed. This alone should have been cause for the judge in the case to rethink prosecutors' demand for 60 years in prison. Manning himself has shown throughout the trial both that he is a humanitarian and that he is willing to serve time for his actions. We have to look at his acts in light of his moral compass, not any political agenda. Manning intentions were never to hurt anyone; in fact, his motivation – as was the case for Ellsberg – was to inform the American public about what their government was doing in their name. A defense forensic psychiatrist testified to Manning's motives: Well, Pfc Manning was under the impression that his leaked information was going to really change how the world views the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and future wars, actually. This was an attempt to crowdsource an analysis of the war, and it was his opinion that if … through crowdsourcing, enough analysis was done on these documents, which he felt to be very important, that it would lead to a greater good … that society as a whole would come to the conclusion that the war wasn't worth it … that really no wars are worth it. I admit that I share the same hopes that drove Manning to share with the rest of the world the crimes of war he witnessed. I am deeply disappointed that no one has been held accountable for the criminality exposed in the documents for which Manning is standing trial – except him. It shows so clearly that our justice systems are not working as intended to protect the general public and to hold accountable those responsible for unspeakable crimes. I want to thank Bradley Manning for the service he has done for humanity with his courage and compassionate action to inform us, so that we have the means to transform and change our societies for the better. I want to thank him for shining light into the shadows. It is up to each and everyone of us to use the information
[liberationtech] Latest developments in Bangladesh
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Shahzad Ahmad shah...@bytesforall.pk wrote: Dear colleagues, Wish to draw your kind attention on the latest developments in Bangladesh. Adilur Rahman is a personal friend and a renowned human rights defender. He was picked by the police on 10th August 2013. Some details of the case are here https://www.frontlinedefenders.org/node/23539 Following note has been sent to relevant UN Special Procedures and Mandate Holders by concerned civil society organizations, however, it will be good that you all are also aware and probably can help. Best wishes and regards Shahzad PS: We dread policy laundering so re very very concerned. -- Forwarded message -- *Dear Special Procedures Mandate Holders* This is to alert you regarding the ordinance titled Information and Communication Technology (ICT) (Amendment) Act, 2013 being passed and approved by the Cabinet of Bangladesh on 19 August 2013. The cabinet has approved the proposed draft of the “Information and Communication Technology (ICT) (Amendment) Act, 2013” which seeks to make significant changes to the existing legislation enacted in 2006http://www.prp.org.bd/downloads/ICTAct2006English.pdf . *Initial reports indicate that some of the key provisions of the amendment are as follows:* 1. Section 76 of the present Act classifies all offences committed under the Act to be Non-Cognizable. However, the 2013 amendment seeks to classify some of the offences as cognizable. By doing so, the police could arrest persons without issuing a warrant by invoking Section 54 of the Code of Criminal Procedurehttp://bdlaws.minlaw.gov.bd/print_sections_all.php?id=75 . 2. Offences under the present Act are bailable, while the amendment seeks to make the offences non-bailable. 3. The maximum period of imprisonment for offences under the Act has been increased to 14 years as against 10 years under the present Act. Penalties and fines are also to be enhanced. Reports also suggest that the Ordinance is likely to receive the assent of the President soon, after which the provisions will come into effect. As soon as the copy of the Ordinance is made available to us we will share it with you. We would further like to bring to your notice to the fact that this draft amendment has been passed in a hurry by the cabinet while the Parliament is scheduled to be in session soon on 12 September 2013. By doing so, the government has denied the opposition parties the opportunity to discuss the provisions of the amendment and raise objections. We must also bring to your attention the recent arrest of Adilur Rahman Khan, a prominent human rights activist on 10 August 2013 for the alleged offences under the Information and Communication Technology Act, 2006. The documents submitted before the courts in relation to his arrest also suggest that the authorities seek to proceed against Adilur Rahman Khan for charges similar to sedition. We anticipate that further arrests of human rights defenders such as Adilur Rahman Khan would be carried out soon after the Information and Communication Technology (ICT) (Amendment) Act, 2013 ordinance is promulgated by the President. We therefore call upon your office to urgently intervene and urge the Government of Bangladesh and the President of Bangladesh to refrain from bringing the Information and Communication Technology (ICT) (Amendment) Act, 2013 into force. Please do contact us should you need any further information or clarification. -- -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: (possible dupe) http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/magazine/laura-poitras-snowden.html?ref=todayspaper_r=1pagewanted=allpagewanted=print snip “I read intelligence carefully,” said Senator Dianne Feinstein, chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, shortly after the first Snowden articles appeared. “I know that people are trying to get us. . . . This is the reason the F.B.I. now has 10,000 people doing intelligence on counterterrorism. . . . It’s to ferret this out before it happens. It’s called protecting America.” And here I thought it was called the Homeland ... at least that's what it's called on her map: http://o.canada.com/2013/08/01/canada-homeland-map/ Yay for geography and sovereignty. -- Scott Elcomb @psema4 on Twitter / Identi.ca / Github more Atomic OS: Self Contained Microsystems http://code.google.com/p/atomos/ Member of the Pirate Party of Canada http://www.pirateparty.ca/ -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Seeing threats, feds target instructors of polygraph-beating methods
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/19/2013 10:42 PM, Tom Ritter wrote: ESPECIALLY when polygraphs aren't actually accepted by the courts, as far as I know. They are still a requirement for some security clearances, though (TS/SCI/LP). Perhaps someone high up the food chain is afraid that someone who passed the lifestyle poly will pull a Snowden in the relatively near future. - -- The Doctor [412/724/301/703] [ZS] Developer, Project Byzantium: http://project-byzantium.org/ PGP: 0x807B17C1 / 7960 1CDC 85C9 0B63 8D9F DD89 3BD8 FF2B 807B 17C1 WWW: https://drwho.virtadpt.net/ The futuristic is paradoxically familiar. --William Gibson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlIVAZsACgkQO9j/K4B7F8EJlwCeJpMBHFLWGGMHX8mrHvQQP/F5 9coAni1TMwMBY8HnnafjUmNOxXN3OZty =cpTh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
[liberationtech] What NSA does now not so different from what agency has done since its inception
http://www.nytimes.com/1983/03/27/magazine/the-silent-power-of-the-nsa.html?partner=rssemc=rsspagewanted=allpagewanted=print March 27, 1983 THE SILENT POWER OF THE N.S.A. By David Burnham David Burnham is a reporter in The Times's Washington bureau. This article is adapted from Mr. Burnham's book ''The Rise of the Computer State,'' to be published by Random House in May. A Federal Court of Appeals recently ruled that the largest and most secretive intelligence agency of the United States, the National Security Agency, may lawfully intercept the overseas communications of Americans even if it has no reason to believe they are engaged in illegal activities. The ruling, which also allows summaries of these conversations to be sent to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, significantly broadens the already generous authority of the N.S.A. to keep track of American citizens. The decision by the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit involves the Government surveillance of Abdeen Jabara, a Michigan-born lawyer who for many years has represented Arab-American citizens and alien residents, and reverses a 1979 ruling that the N.S.A.'s acquisition of Jabara's overseas messages violated his Fourth Amendment right to be free of ''unreasonable searches and seizures.'' Even while refusing the plaintiff's request for reconsideration, the Court curiously acknowledged the far-reaching nature of the case, recognizing that the N.S.A.'s interception of overseas telecommunications and their dissemination to ''other Federal agencies has great potential for abuse.'' The Court, however, held that the problem was ''a policy matter that lies in the domain of the executive or legislative branch of our Government.'' The N.S.A. is much more than a massive computerized funnel that collects, channels and sorts information for the President and such organizations as the Central Intelligence Agency and F.B.I. The National Security Agency, an arm of the Defense Department but under the direct command of the Director of Central Intelligence, is an electronic spying operation, and its leverage is based on a massive bank of what are believed to be the largest and most advanced computers now available to any bureaucracy in the world: computers to break codes, direct spy satellites, intercept electronic messages, recognize target words in spoken communications and store, organize and index all of it. Over the years, this virtually unknown Federal agency has repeatedly sought to enlarge its power without consulting the civilian officials who theoretically direct the Government, while it also has sought to influence the operation and development of all civilian communications networks. Indeed, under Vice Adm. Bobby Ray Inman, N.S.A. director from 1977 to 1981, the agency received an enlarged Presidential mandate to involve itself in communications issues, and successfully persuaded private corporations and institutions to cooperate with it. [...] The power of the N.S.A., whose annual budget and staff are believed to exceed those of either the F.B.I. or the C.I.A., is enhanced by its unique legal status within the Federal Government. Unlike the Agriculture Department, the Postal Service or even the C.I.A., the N.S.A. has no specific Congressional law defining its responsibilities and obligations. Instead, the agency, based at Fort George Meade, about 20 miles northeast of Washington, has operated under a series of Presidential directives. Because of Congress's failure to draft a law for the agency, because of the tremendous secrecy surrounding the N.S.A.'s work and because of the highly technical and thus thwarting character of its equipment, the N.S.A. is free to define and pursue its own goals. Despite the impenetrable secrecy surrounding the agency - no public briefings or access to its premises is allowed - its mission was first discussed openly in the 1975 hearings of the Senate Select Committee to Study Government Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities. Various aspects of the agency's responsibilities also have been touched upon in a handful of depositions filed by the agency in Federal courts, several recent executive orders and a few aging documents found in the towering stacks of the National Archives. [...] The Senate select committee's study of the N.S.A., one of the most extensive independent examinations ever made of the agency, was initiated in the wake of Watergate and the disclosure of other abuses by Federal intelligence agencies. During the course of the investigation, its chairman, Senator Frank Church, repeatedly emphasized his belief that the N.S.A.'s intelligence-gathering activities were essential to the nation's security. He also stressed that the equipment used to watch the Russians could just as easily ''monitor the private communications of Americans.'' If such forces were ever turned against the country's communications system, Senator Church said, ''no American would have any
[liberationtech] Pakistan: Ministry of IT Pursues Filtration Again
Hi all, Many of you have been of great support during our campaign to get Ministry of IT to shelve their plans for a National Level URL Filtration Blocking System that was announced in February last year, through your consistent support and pressure we were able to get the ministry to shelve the plan last year. However, as we feared and as now indicated through multiple media statements, the ministry is pursuing their plans and have in fact now indicated that the filters will be provided through an ISP for free for one year. As partners and supporters of campaigns run by Civil Society in Pakistan, we are sending out this note to keep you updated on the situation. We've issued a detailed statement regarding the issue alongside extensive resources that we have been producing, including submissions to court in the YouTube case in which our director is Amicus Curiae Here's the link to our statement: http://bolobhi.org/press-releases/minstry-of-it-no-to-internet-filters-censorship/ The successful campaign last year which is now being disregarded : http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/11/26/the_fp_100_global_thinkers?page=0,58#thinker100 http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/11/26/the_fp_100_global_thinkers?page=0,58#thinker100 Submissions to court: http://bolobhi.org/press-releases/minstry-of-it-no-to-internet-filters-censorship/ http://bolobhi.org/press-releases/minstry-of-it-no-to-internet-filters-censorship/ Best, Sana -- Director, Bolo Bhi, Advocacy-Policy-Research [http://bolobhi.org] Blogger: Dawn.com [http://blog.dawn.com/author/sana-saleem/] Global Voices: [http://globalvoicesonline.org/author/sana-saleem/] The Guardian:[ www.guardian.co.uk/profile/sana-saleem] Blog: http://sanasaleem.com] Twitter: @sanasaleemhttp://twitter.com/sanasaleem @bolobhi http://bolobhi.org/ -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets
So it's now become about the heroism of the journalists and not Snowden
and mass govt surveillance.
Right.
On Thursday, August 22, 2013, Scott Elcomb wrote:
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Eugen Leitl
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(possible dupe)
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/magazine/laura-poitras-snowden.html?ref=todayspaper_r=1pagewanted=allpagewanted=print
snip
“I read intelligence carefully,” said Senator Dianne
Feinstein, chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, shortly after
the
first Snowden articles appeared. “I know that people are trying to get
us. .
. . This is the reason the F.B.I. now has 10,000 people doing
intelligence on
counterterrorism. . . . It’s to ferret this out before it happens. It’s
called protecting America.”
And here I thought it was called the Homeland ... at least that's what
it's called on her map:
http://o.canada.com/2013/08/01/canada-homeland-map/
Yay for geography and sovereignty.
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Re: [liberationtech] How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: This past January, Laura Poitras received a curious e-mail from an anonymous stranger requesting her public encryption key. For almost two years, Poitras had been working on a documentary about surveillance, and she occasionally received queries from strangers. She replied to this one and sent her public key — allowing him or her to send an encrypted e-mail that only Poitras could open, with her private key Then the NSA MitMed her unauthenticated plaintext email, replacing her public key with theirs, and were able to intercept all of the Snowden emails. Oops! -- Tony Arcieri -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets
Wow. It had to be someone. Who would you have had it been? On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Tony Arcieri basc...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: This past January, Laura Poitras received a curious e-mail from an anonymous stranger requesting her public encryption key. For almost two years, Poitras had been working on a documentary about surveillance, and she occasionally received queries from strangers. She replied to this one and sent her public key — allowing him or her to send an encrypted e-mail that only Poitras could open, with her private key Then the NSA MitMed her unauthenticated plaintext email, replacing her public key with theirs, and were able to intercept all of the Snowden emails. Oops! -- Tony Arcieri -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Bradley Manning's sentence: 35 years for exposing us to the truth
tragic. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Shelley shel...@misanthropia.info wrote: Outrageous. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/21/bradley-manning-sentence-birgitta-jonsdottir Bradley Manning's sentence: 35 years for exposing us to the truth This was never a fair trial – Obama declared Manning's guilt in advance. But Manning's punishment is an affront to democracy Birgitta Jónsdóttir theguardian.com, Wednesday 21 August 2013 10.29 EDT Jump to comments (…) Link to video: Bradley Manning: 35 years in jail for an outsider who had trouble fitting in – video As of today, Wednesday 21 August 2013, Bradley Manning has served 1,182 days in prison. He should be released with a sentence of time served. Instead, the judge in his court martial at Fort Meade, Maryland has handed down a sentence of 35 years. Of course, a humane, reasonable sentence of time served was never going to happen. This trial has, since day one, been held in a kangaroo court. That is not angry rhetoric; the reason I am forced to frame it in that way is because President Obama made the following statements on record, before the trial even started: President Obama: We're a nation of laws. We don't individually make our own decisions about how the laws operate … He broke the law. Logan Price: Well, you can make the law harder to break, but what he did was tell us the truth. President Obama: Well, what he did was he dumped … Logan Price: But Nixon tried to prosecute Daniel Ellsberg for the same thing and he is a … [hero] President Obama: No, it isn't the same thing … What Ellsberg released wasn't classified in the same way. When the president says that the Ellsberg's material was classified in a different way, he seems to be unaware that there was a higher classification on the documents Ellsberg leaked. A fair trial, then, has never been part of the picture. Despite being a professor in constitutional law, the president as commander-in-chief of the US military – and Manning has been tried in a court martial – declared Manning's guilt pre-emptively. Here is what the Pentagon Papers leaker Daniel Ellsberg had to say about this, in an interview with Amy Goodman at DemocracyNow! in 2011: Well, nearly everything the president has said represents a confusion about the state of the law and his own responsibilities. Everyone is focused, I think, on the fact that his commander-in-chief has virtually given a directed verdict to his subsequent jurors, who will all be his subordinates in deciding the guilt in the trial of Bradley Manning. He's told them already that their commander, on whom their whole career depends, regards him [Manning] as guilty and that they can disagree with that only at their peril. In career terms, it's clearly enough grounds for a dismissal of the charges, just as my trial was dismissed eventually for governmental misconduct. But what people haven't really focused on, I think, is another problematic aspect of what he said. He not only was identifying Bradley Manning as the source of the crime, but he was assuming, without any question, that a crime has been committed. This alone should have been cause for the judge in the case to rethink prosecutors' demand for 60 years in prison. Manning himself has shown throughout the trial both that he is a humanitarian and that he is willing to serve time for his actions. We have to look at his acts in light of his moral compass, not any political agenda. Manning intentions were never to hurt anyone; in fact, his motivation – as was the case for Ellsberg – was to inform the American public about what their government was doing in their name. A defense forensic psychiatrist testified to Manning's motives: Well, Pfc Manning was under the impression that his leaked information was going to really change how the world views the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and future wars, actually. This was an attempt to crowdsource an analysis of the war, and it was his opinion that if … through crowdsourcing, enough analysis was done on these documents, which he felt to be very important, that it would lead to a greater good … that society as a whole would come to the conclusion that the war wasn't worth it … that really no wars are worth it. I admit that I share the same hopes that drove Manning to share with the rest of the world the crimes of war he witnessed. I am deeply disappointed that no one has been held accountable for the criminality exposed in the documents for which Manning is standing trial – except him. It shows so clearly that our justice systems are not working as intended to protect the general public and to hold accountable those responsible for unspeakable crimes. I want to thank Bradley Manning for the service he has done for humanity with his courage and compassionate action to inform us, so that we have the means to transform and change our societies for the better. I want to
Re: [liberationtech] Bradley Manning's sentence: 35 years for exposing us to the truth
If Snowden gets captured, you can bet he will be getting much much worse It's extremely sad that not many people realize that, the discourse critiquing snowden for his 'choice' destinations is appalling. -- Director, Bolo Bhi, Advocacy-Policy-Research [http://bolobhi.org] Blogger: Dawn.com [http://blog.dawn.com/author/sana-saleem/] Global Voices: [http://globalvoicesonline.org/author/sana-saleem/] The Guardian:[ www.guardian.co.uk/profile/sana-saleem] Blog: http://sanasaleem.com] Twitter: @sanasaleemhttp://twitter.com/sanasaleem @bolobhi http://bolobhi.org/ On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Tom O winterfi...@gmail.com wrote: If Snowden gets captured, you can bet he will be getting much much worse -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Bradley Manning's sentence: 35 years for exposing us to the truth
I agree with what you've said, but it's still an outrage that Manning will serve (more) time for exposing war crimes while the criminals walk free. Also agree that Snowden would fare far worse. nbsp;Here's hoping it won't happen. https://prism-break.org/ On Aug 21, 2013 1:06 PM, Tom O lt;winterfi...@gmail.comgt; wrote: To be honest, this was probably the best he could have hoped for.nbsp; He was facing 90. He got 35 with parole after 12.nbsp; It's shit, but not as shit as the other options.nbsp; If Snowden gets captured, you can bet he will be getting much much worse.nbsp; On Thursday, August 22, 2013, LilBambi wrote: tragic. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Shelley lt;shel...@misanthropia.infogt; wrote: gt; Outrageous. gt; gt; http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/21/bradley-manning-sentence-birgitta-jonsdottir gt; gt; Bradley Manning's sentence: 35 years for exposing us to the truth gt; This was never a fair trial – Obama declared Manning's guilt in advance. But gt; Manning's punishment is an affront to democracy gt; gt; Birgitta Jónsdóttir gt; theguardian.com, Wednesday 21 August 2013 10.29 EDT gt; Jump to comments (…) gt; gt; Link to video: Bradley Manning: 35 years in jail for an outsider who had gt; trouble fitting in – video gt; gt; As of today, Wednesday 21 August 2013, Bradley Manning has served 1,182 days gt; in prison. He should be released with a sentence of time served. Instead, gt; the judge in his court martial at Fort Meade, Maryland has handed down a gt; sentence of 35 years. gt; gt; Of course, a humane, reasonable sentence of time served was never going to gt; happen. This trial has, since day one, been held in a kangaroo court. That gt; is not angry rhetoric; the reason I am forced to frame it in that way is gt; because President Obama made the following statements on record, before the gt; trial even started: gt; gt; President Obama: We're a nation of laws. We don't individually make our own gt; decisions about how the laws operate … He broke the law. gt; gt; Logan Price: Well, you can make the law harder to break, but what he did was gt; tell us the truth. gt; gt; President Obama: Well, what he did was he dumped … gt; gt; Logan Price: But Nixon tried to prosecute Daniel Ellsberg for the same thing gt; and he is a … [hero] gt; gt; President Obama: No, it isn't the same thing … What Ellsberg released wasn't gt; classified in the same way. gt; gt; When the president says that the Ellsberg's material was classified in a gt; different way, he seems to be unaware that there was a higher classification gt; on the documents Ellsberg leaked. gt; gt; A fair trial, then, has never been part of the picture. Despite being a gt; professor in constitutional law, the president as commander-in-chief of the gt; US military – and Manning has been tried in a court martial – declared gt; Manning's guilt pre-emptively. Here is what the Pentagon Papers leaker gt; Daniel Ellsberg had to say about this, in an interview with Amy Goodman at gt; DemocracyNow! in 2011: gt; gt; Well, nearly everything the president has said represents a confusion about gt; the state of the law and his own responsibilities. Everyone is focused, I gt; think, on the fact that his commander-in-chief has virtually given a gt; directed verdict to his subsequent jurors, who will all be his subordinates gt; in deciding the guilt in the trial of Bradley Manning. He's told them gt; already that their commander, on whom their whole career depends, regards gt; him [Manning] as guilty and that they can disagree with that only at their gt; peril. In career terms, it's clearly enough grounds for a dismissal of the gt; charges, just as my trial was dismissed eventually for governmental gt; misconduct. gt; gt; But what people haven't really focused on, I think, is another problematic gt; aspect of what he said. He not only was identifying Bradley Manning as the gt; source of the crime, but he was assuming, without any question, that a crime gt; has been committed. gt; gt; This alone should have been cause for the judge in the case to rethink gt; prosecutors' demand for 60 years in prison. Manning himself has shown gt; throughout the trial both that he is a humanitarian and that he is willing gt; to serve time for his actions. We have to look at his acts in light of his gt; moral compass, not any political agenda. gt; Manning intentions were never to hurt anyone; in fact, his motivation – as gt; was the case for Ellsberg – was to inform the American public about what gt; their government was doing in their name. A defense forensic psychiatrist gt; testified to Manning's motives: gt; gt; Well, Pfc Manning was under the impression that his leaked information was gt; going to really change how the world views the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, gt; and future wars, actually. This was an attempt to crowdsource an analysis of gt;
Re: [liberationtech] Bradley Manning's sentence: 35 years for exposing us to the truth
Even a large segment of media discourse seems to dwell on his choice of destination. Rather than focus largely on the issues he exposed. The repercussions of NSA revelations are heavily influencing discourse in other countries esp Pakistan. Where we first heard look at china progressing despite censorship now we hear United States does it, how do you expect us not to? More broadly it seems non US citizens do not even exist. Even the discussions on NSA violations have largely been focused on how US is spying on its own people. I as a brown woman in Pakistan do not exist. Tragic, shameful and appalling. -- Director, Bolo Bhi, Advocacy-Policy-Research [http://bolobhi.org] Blogger: Dawn.com [http://blog.dawn.com/author/sana-saleem/] Global Voices: [http://globalvoicesonline.org/author/sana-saleem/] The Guardian:[ www.guardian.co.uk/profile/sana-saleem] Blog: http://sanasaleem.com] Twitter: @sanasaleemhttp://twitter.com/sanasaleem @bolobhi http://bolobhi.org/ On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Tom O winterfi...@gmail.com wrote: It's for his choice in destinations that will get him worse. Aiding the enemy could be politically sensitive. Do you really want to call China Russia the enemy? Prosecution and conviction under the espionage act is a given. I suspect his trial won't be as open as Mannings. On Thursday, August 22, 2013, Sana Saleem wrote: If Snowden gets captured, you can bet he will be getting much much worse It's extremely sad that not many people realize that, the discourse critiquing snowden for his 'choice' destinations is appalling. -- Director, Bolo Bhi, Advocacy-Policy-Research [http://bolobhi.org] Blogger: Dawn.com [http://blog.dawn.com/author/sana-saleem/] Global Voices: [http://globalvoicesonline.org/author/sana-saleem/] The Guardian:[ www.guardian.co.uk/profile/sana-saleem] Blog: http://sanasaleem.com] Twitter: @sanasaleemhttp://twitter.com/sanasaleem @bolobhi http://bolobhi.org/ On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Tom O winterfi...@gmail.com wrote: If Snowden gets captured, you can bet he will be getting much much worse -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Bradley Manning's sentence: 35 years for exposing us to the truth
gt;gt;I suspect his trial won't be as open as Mannings I seriously doubt he'd get even a kangaroo court trial. nbsp;Something would happen to his plane on the way back, etc. These are thugs and war criminals we're talking about in the alphabet agencies and above. nbsp;They don't seem to believe they are bound by rule of law. https://prism-break.org/ On Aug 21, 2013 1:11 PM, Tom O lt;winterfi...@gmail.comgt; wrote: It's for his choice in destinations that will get him worse. Aiding the enemy could be politically sensitive. Do you really want to call China amp; Russia the enemy? Prosecution and convictionnbsp;under the espionage act is a given.nbsp; I suspect his trial won't be as open as Mannings.nbsp; -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Bradley Manning's sentence: 35 years for exposing us to the truth
When international media is primarily dominated by multinational US
corporations, voices that are affected outside that realm seldom get heard.
The thing that must happen now is to not let them get away with it. If they
do get away with it, that is now carte blanche approval for EVERYONE to do
it.
On Thursday, August 22, 2013, Sana Saleem wrote:
Even a large segment of media discourse seems to dwell on his choice of
destination. Rather than focus largely on the issues he exposed. The
repercussions of NSA revelations are heavily influencing discourse in other
countries esp Pakistan. Where we first heard look at china progressing
despite censorship now we hear United States does it, how do you expect
us not to?
More broadly it seems non US citizens do not even exist. Even the
discussions on NSA violations have largely been focused on how US is spying
on its own people. I as a brown woman in Pakistan do not exist. Tragic,
shameful and appalling.
--
Director, Bolo Bhi, Advocacy-Policy-Research [http://bolobhi.org]
Blogger: Dawn.com [http://blog.dawn.com/author/sana-saleem/]
Global Voices: [http://globalvoicesonline.org/author/sana-saleem/]
The Guardian:[ www.guardian.co.uk/profile/sana-saleem]
Blog: http://sanasaleem.com] Twitter:
@sanasaleemhttp://twitter.com/sanasaleem
@bolobhi http://bolobhi.org/
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Tom O
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wrote:
It's for his choice in destinations that will get him worse. Aiding the
enemy could be politically sensitive. Do you really want to call China
Russia the enemy?
Prosecution and conviction under the espionage act is a given.
I suspect his trial won't be as open as Mannings.
On Thursday, August 22, 2013, Sana Saleem wrote:
If Snowden gets captured, you can bet he will be getting much much worse
It's extremely sad that not many people realize that, the discourse
critiquing snowden for his 'choice' destinations is appalling.
--
Director, Bolo Bhi, Advocacy-Policy-Research [http://bolobhi.org]
Blogger: Dawn.com [http://blog.dawn.com/author/sana-saleem/]
Global Voices: [http://globalvoicesonline.org/author/sana-saleem/]
The Guardian:[ www.guardian.co.uk/profile/sana-saleem]
Blog: http://sanasaleem.com] Twitter:
@sanasaleemhttp://twitter.com/sanasaleem
@bolobhi http://bolobhi.org/
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Tom O winterfi...@gmail.com wrote:
If Snowden gets captured, you can bet he will be getting much much worse
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Re: [liberationtech] Cryptocat: Call for Translators. Please Participate!
Thanks so much for your help, everyone. We just added two additional sentences that need translating. https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/Cryptocat/resource/cryptocat/ NK On 2013-08-20, at 1:38 PM, Buddhadeb Halder bhalder...@gmail.com wrote: I will do Bengali. On Tuesday, August 20, 2013, Neil Blazevic neilblaze...@gmail.com wrote: What would be the process to add other languages? I could potentially round up some Swahili translators one day. Neil Sent from a mobile device On 20 Aug 2013 14:42, Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc wrote: Dear Libtech, Echoing Commotion's recent call for translators on this list: Cryptocat is adding cool new features (and modifying some existing ones) over the upcoming weeks, all of which necessitate the translation of various new words and sentences for the user interface. Currently, Cryptocat is available in almost 40 languages, and maintaining these translations would be impossible without the participation of language speakers from around the world. You can very easily contribute to Cryptocat translations here: https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/Cryptocat/resource/cryptocat/ Just pick a language and fill it up to 100%! If you know people who can help, I urge you to please forward this email to them. The following languages are priority. Any language not on this list is considered not necessary to fully translate at the moment. Catalan Arabic Chinese (Hong Kong) Chinese (China) Urdu Tibetan Russian Estonian Czech German Danish Spanish Basque Greek Farsi French Japanese Hebrew Bengali Italian Khmer Korean Latvian Dutch Norwegian Polish Portuguese Bulgarian Swedish Turkish Vietnamese Uighur Thanks very much, and please don't forget to pass this around to people who may know these languages and be able to translate from English. NK -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Bradley Manning's sentence: 35 years for exposing us to the truth
Outrageous. tragic. Would this work? http://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardon_instructions.htm -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Bradley Manning's sentence: 35 years for exposing us to the truth
Sure, but I think Manning has a zero chance of obtaining a pardon. https://prism-break.org/ On Aug 21, 2013 1:49 PM, Blibbet lt;blib...@gmail.comgt; wrote: gt;gt; Outrageous. gt; tragic. Would this work? http://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardon_instructions.htm -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Bradley Manning's sentence: 35 years for exposing us to the truth
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Shelley shel...@misanthropia.info wrote: Sure, but I think Manning has a zero chance of obtaining a pardon. Col. Morris Davis: “Military has detailed regs on confinement credits parole eligibility. My best est is he'll do about 8-9 yrs, out by age 33-34.” https://twitter.com/ColMorrisDavis/status/370223513400913920 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Davis If true, a pretty fitting sentence, I think, for indiscriminately publishing huge amount of classified information that potentially endangered many people, and considering that USA has unusually harsh sentences for a developed country. An interesting comment on Reddit, of all places: “Significant amounts of foreign service agent names were released. These are civilians working for their government in some official capacity (think spies, except not all of them are cloak and dagger types). These were people stationed in hostile countries (Pakistan, SE Asia, Middle East, Africa) and if their cover had been blown while in country they could have been sought out. Luckily, as I understand it most of the people that were exposed were notified by their handlers in advance (basically as soon as word go out that diplomatic cables had been compromised) and were extracted. A friend of mine works in a field that draws a lot of foreign service agents to it due to the nature of the work, and they were camped out in northern Pakistan with her crew. She woke up one morning (the morning after the diplomatic cables were released) and half her crew was gone. They got word in the middle of the night and left. They couldn't even tell the people they were with why they were gone, and I imagine it was quite unsettling to be there and be missing people all of the sudden.” http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1kszc9/bradley_manning_sentenced_to_35_years_in_jail/cbsg58x -- Maxim Kammerer Liberté Linux: http://dee.su/liberte -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets
Tom O wrote: So it's now become about the heroism of the journalists and not Snowden and mass govt surveillance. Right. There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on coverage will help protect them from retribution. Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive if you let it. =/ ~Griffin -- Cypherpunks write code not flame wars. --Jurre van Bergen #Foucault / PGP: 0xAE792C97 / OTR: sa...@jabber.ccc.de My posts, while frequently amusing, are not representative of the thoughts of my employer. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Bradley Manning's sentence: 35 years for exposing us to the truth
Thus spake Tom O (winterfi...@gmail.com): To be honest, this was probably the best he could have hoped for. He was facing 90. He got 35 with parole after 12. It's shit, but not as shit as the other options. If Snowden gets captured, you can bet he will be getting much much worse. This would be really unfortunate, especially since by any objective measure Snowden has been significantly more careful with what he's allowed to be revealed than Manning was. Thankfully, public opinion also seems to indicate that most people understand this effort on Snowden's part, despite the media circus. Even still, I am not in the Snowden would get a fair trial in the US camp, either. I am also worried by the fact that the lawlessness of the gangster governments that most Western democracies have devolved into has necessitated this whole insurance file business again. Let's hope at least that bit works out better this time, for everyone involved. -- Mike Perry -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets
--snip-- There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on coverage will help protect them from retribution. Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive if you let it. =/ --snip-- You got that right! On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Griffin Boyce griffinbo...@gmail.com wrote: Tom O wrote: So it's now become about the heroism of the journalists and not Snowden and mass govt surveillance. Right. There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on coverage will help protect them from retribution. Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive if you let it. =/ ~Griffin -- Cypherpunks write code not flame wars. --Jurre van Bergen #Foucault / PGP: 0xAE792C97 / OTR: sa...@jabber.ccc.de My posts, while frequently amusing, are not representative of the thoughts of my employer. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Bradley Manning's sentence: 35 years for exposing us to the truth
agreed. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Mike Perry mikepe...@torproject.org wrote: Thus spake Tom O (winterfi...@gmail.com): To be honest, this was probably the best he could have hoped for. He was facing 90. He got 35 with parole after 12. It's shit, but not as shit as the other options. If Snowden gets captured, you can bet he will be getting much much worse. This would be really unfortunate, especially since by any objective measure Snowden has been significantly more careful with what he's allowed to be revealed than Manning was. Thankfully, public opinion also seems to indicate that most people understand this effort on Snowden's part, despite the media circus. Even still, I am not in the Snowden would get a fair trial in the US camp, either. I am also worried by the fact that the lawlessness of the gangster governments that most Western democracies have devolved into has necessitated this whole insurance file business again. Let's hope at least that bit works out better this time, for everyone involved. -- Mike Perry -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Bradley Manning's sentence: 35 years for exposing us to the truth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I guess this is progress. In ancient Greece and the Middle Ages, exposing people to the truth would get you killed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlIVP+EACgkQEwFPdUjsHjDCoQCaAxcCPUGSs6ibezZNEsA/LDx/ /3oAnR1q0HMpCJEaiNzm+3x+ga6BO6od =ZOgu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets
There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on coverage will help protect them from retribution. Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive if you let it. =/ Thanks for that. Griffin. Just putting a good word in for documentary filmmakers and investigative journalists who also put their lives on the line, to shape, frame, and communicate these stories and set a stage for activists to do their end of the job. I work with a number of them who don't think of themselves as heroes, but are just driven to do this work through a sense of social justice. Lina On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:19 PM, LilBambi lilba...@gmail.com wrote: --snip-- There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on coverage will help protect them from retribution. Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive if you let it. =/ --snip-- You got that right! On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Griffin Boyce griffinbo...@gmail.com wrote: Tom O wrote: So it's now become about the heroism of the journalists and not Snowden and mass govt surveillance. Right. There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on coverage will help protect them from retribution. Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive if you let it. =/ ~Griffin -- Cypherpunks write code not flame wars. --Jurre van Bergen #Foucault / PGP: 0xAE792C97 / OTR: sa...@jabber.ccc.de My posts, while frequently amusing, are not representative of the thoughts of my employer. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu. -- Lina Srivastava -- linasrivastava.com | twitter | linkedin -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
[liberationtech] Fwd: [riseup] Space for dissent
- Forwarded message from newslet...@lists.riseup.net - Space for dissent It is a mistake to frame the recent US and European massive surveillance revelations in terms of the privacy of individuals. What is at stake is not privacy at all, but the power of the state over its citizenry. What surveillance really is, at its root, is a highly effective form of social control. The knowledge of always being watched changes our behavior and stifles dissent. The inability to associate secretly means there is no longer any possibility for free association. The inability to whisper means there is no longer any speech that is truly free of coercion, real or implied. Most profoundly, pervasive surveillance threatens to eliminate the most vital element of both democracy and social movements: the mental space for people to form dissenting and unpopular views. Many commentators, and Edward Snowden himself, have noted that these surveillance programs represent an existential threat to democracy. This understates the problem. The universal surveillance programs in place now are not simply a potential threat, they are certain to destroy democracy if left unchecked. Democracy, even the shadow of democracy we currently practice, rests on the bedrock foundation of free association, free speech, and dissent. The consequence of the coercive power of surveillance is to subvert this foundation and undermine everything democracy rests on. Within social movements, there is a temptation to say that nothing is really different. After all, governments have always targeted activist groups with surveillance and disruption, especially the successful ones. But this new surveillance is different. What the US government and European allies have built is an infrastructure for perfect social control. By automating the process of surveillance, they have created the ability to effortlessly peer into the lives of everyone, all the time, and thus create a system with unprecedented potential for controlling how we behave and think. True, this infrastructure is not currently used in this way, but it is a technical tool-kit that can easily be used for totalitarian ends. Those who imagine a government can be trusted to police itself when given the ominous power of precise insight into the inner workings of everyday life are betting the future on the ability of a secretive government to show proper self-restraint in the use of their ever-expanding power. If history has shown us anything, it is that the powerful will always use their full power unless they are forced to stop. So, how exactly are we planning on stopping them? We support people working through the legal system or applying political pressure, but we feel our best hope of stopping the technology of surveillance is the technology of encryption. Why? Because the forces that have created this brave new world are unlikely to be uprooted before it is too late to halt the advance of surveillance. Unfortunately, most existing encryption technology is counterproductive. Many people are pushing technology that is proprietary, relies on a central authority, or is hopelessly difficult for the common user. The only technology that has a chance to resist the rise of surveillance will be open source, federated, and incredibly easy to use. In the long run, decentralized peer-to-peer tools might meet this criteria, but for the foreseeable future these tools will not have the features or usability that people have grown accustomed to. In the coming months, the Riseup birds plan to begin rolling out a series of radically new services, starting with encrypted internet, encrypted email, and encrypted chat. These services will be based on 100% open source and open protocols, will be easy to use, and will protect your data from everyone, even Riseup. This is a massive undertaking, made in concert over the last year with several other organizations, and will only work with your support. We need programmers, particularly those experienced in Python, C, Ruby, and Android development, and sysadmins interested in starting their own secure service providers. We also need money. Donations from our amazing Riseup users keep us running on our current infrastructure. But in order to be able to graduate to a new generation of truly secure and easy to use communication technology, we are going to need a lot more money than our users are able to donate. If you have deep pockets and an interest in building this new generation of communication, then we need to hear from you. If you have friends or family who care about the future of democracy and who have deep pockets, we need to hear from them, too. At Riseup, we have felt for the last few years that the window of opportunity to counter the rise of universal surveillance is slowly shrinking. Now is our chance to establish a new reality where mass numbers of people are using encryption on a daily basis. If you have the skills or
Re: [liberationtech] How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets
And that is a very noble cause. On Aug 21, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Lina Srivastava l...@linasrivastava.com wrote: There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on coverage will help protect them from retribution. Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive if you let it. =/ Thanks for that. Griffin. Just putting a good word in for documentary filmmakers and investigative journalists who also put their lives on the line, to shape, frame, and communicate these stories and set a stage for activists to do their end of the job. I work with a number of them who don't think of themselves as heroes, but are just driven to do this work through a sense of social justice. Lina On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:19 PM, LilBambi lilba...@gmail.com wrote: --snip-- There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on coverage will help protect them from retribution. Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive if you let it. =/ --snip-- You got that right! On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Griffin Boyce griffinbo...@gmail.com wrote: Tom O wrote: So it's now become about the heroism of the journalists and not Snowden and mass govt surveillance. Right. There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on coverage will help protect them from retribution. Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive if you let it. =/ ~Griffin -- Cypherpunks write code not flame wars. --Jurre van Bergen #Foucault / PGP: 0xAE792C97 / OTR: sa...@jabber.ccc.de My posts, while frequently amusing, are not representative of the thoughts of my employer. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu. -- Lina Srivastava -- linasrivastava.com | twitter | linkedin -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Bradley Manning's sentence: 35 years for exposing us to the truth
Excellent point. On Aug 21, 2013, at 6:32 PM, Richard Brooks r...@acm.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I guess this is progress. In ancient Greece and the Middle Ages, exposing people to the truth would get you killed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlIVP+EACgkQEwFPdUjsHjDCoQCaAxcCPUGSs6ibezZNEsA/LDx/ /3oAnR1q0HMpCJEaiNzm+3x+ga6BO6od =ZOgu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
[liberationtech] NSA revelations are about capabilities...not intentions
It's instructive to look at the history of America's original surveillance program, its 223 year old US Census program. There are rigorous laws against government abuse of census data[1][2] going back over 200 years. In addition, during each 10-year census period there are earnest advertising campaigns of shameless dis-information assuring American citizens that their census data will remain absolutely confidential and out of reach of all other US Government agencies[3] (worth looking specifically at the 2000 ad campaign image referenced here). Actual history is quite different. At least three times in US history, US Census data has been abused on a massive scale for direct military or police action against US citizens. Each time it was justified by pointing to extraordinary events that demanded its use. In 1864, after General Sherman took Atlanta and destroyed the city of Atlanta, he ordered US Census records for the states he intended to campaign through on his famed March to the Sea to sent by train to his headquarters outside Atlanta. His operational planners sifted through the census records to determine where the richest farms and largest storehouses were located to plan the routing of their Savannah Campaign[4]. Eighty years later in 1942, US Census records were used to identify the residential addresses of all Americans that had declared Japanese (as well as German and Italian) ancestory on their 1940 Census forms. The information was used by FBI and local law enforcement for the round up and placement of over 140,000 people into detention camps of which over 120,000 were US citizens[5][6]. And sixty years later in 2002 came the most recent abuse of US Census data when the Census Bureau handed over information that had been collected about Arab-Americans during the 2000 Census to the FBI and Homeland Security[7]. --- What is clear is that as long as the capabilities to amass data exists, there will be repeated abuses of that data. Furthermore, that abuse will almost always be in the form of repressive military and police actions against that nation's own citizens without regard to laws, constitutions or intentions[8]. We have far more to fear than the terrorists... --- [1] http://www.census.gov/privacy/data_protection/title_13_-_protection_of_confidential_information.html [2] http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2010/03/justice_dept_census_confidenti.html [3] http://files.coloribus.com/files/adsarchive/part_214/2141255/file/census-2000-hispanic-campaign-no-small-75969.jpg [4] http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/articles/history-archaeology/shermans-march-sea [5] JR Minkel (March 30, 2007). Confirmed: The U.S. Census Bureau Gave Up Names of Japanese-Americans in WW II. Scientific American [6] Haya El Nasser (March 30, 2007). Papers show Census role in WWII camps. USA Today [7] http://epic.org/privacy/census/foia/ [8] http://www.toad.com/gnu/census.html -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
