Re: [liberationtech] [OT] Please, LibTech moderation team, put this fake address under moderation.

2017-02-28 Thread Andres Pacheco
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!important; } Maybe we should start using stealth addresses, or perhaps there's 
a feature in the list where email addresses of participants are not exposed in 
messages...


Regards / Saludos / Grato,Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes(817) 
754-0431

On Tuesday, February 28, 2017, 12:23 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker 
 wrote:

​I am reading the list in Gmail and Shara Cruz came up as a possible connection 
to add as I replied to a private message.
Given the subject matter, I have to wonder if this isn't something a lot more 
nefarious and if they are possibly trying to exploit features of WebMail apps 
to map out the list.
They must have been sending a ton of stuff for Gmail to infer a contact.
Many of the Putinbots are genuinely bots and they are being used to target folk 
engaged in certain types of political activity.
 ​
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Cecilia Tanaka  
wrote:

Sorry for asking it publicly, but it can be a useful warning to other
people here, considering this troll always has the same stupid
patterns.

Shara Cruz 

This fake e-mail address is sending me bizarre messages and nude pics
since I posted on LibTech about hate crimes yesterday night.  Please,
put this stupid troll under moderation in preventive care.

It's a neo-nazi guy, a radical Trump and Putin supporter, pretending
to be a lesbian girl this time, aff...  He should spend all the free
time he has in hands in a more constructive way, studying or getting a
life, for example.

(Tip:  - When I want to see a "hot naked girl", I simply use my
mirror, OK?  Cry, loser.)

Ceci
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Re: [liberationtech] Boston event: How nonprofits can use Facebook to broadcast their impact??? (Feb 27th)

2017-02-27 Thread Andres Pacheco
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!important; } Paranoia about FB et alte should be superseded by paranoia about 
"Just Trump!"
We've seen reactions from top social media outfits against Trump,  so there's 
hope
In any case anybody can get "off the grid" if risk análisis do dictates.

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On Monday, February 27, 2017, 10:14 AM, Steve Weis  wrote:

Hi José. Facebook's data policy states it only shares non-personally 
identifying demographic information in aggregate with advertisers. See the 
section under "Sharing With Third-Party Partners and Customers":
https://www.facebook.com/policy.php#

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 7:25 AM, José María Mateos  wrote:

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 3:48 PM, John Sullivan  wrote:
> Interesting. What data of yours do they get?

It's not explicitly stated in the files I downloaded and I haven't
been able to quickly find any reasonable answer within Facebook's help
system. Difficult to know :-(

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Re: [liberationtech] List Termination Notice

2017-02-26 Thread Andres Pacheco
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!important; } Did Trump take over Stanford University? 


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On Sunday, February 26, 2017, 8:15 AM, M. Angela Petrizzo Paez 
 wrote:

 _filtered #yiv7583532680 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
Hi,

I'm sorry to ear about the defunction of the program, and I also want to remain 
in the new list. 

I work with wordpress and so on and, if is needed, I can help.

Thanks in advance

Mariangel


On February 25, 2017, at 6:25 PM, Vanessa Vaile  wrote:


I joined the list just recently -- still in lurk and learn mode -- but very 
much want to continue and am willing to help.
Vanessa Vaile
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 10:22 PM, Yosem Companys  wrote:

Dear All,
It has recently come to my attention that the Stanford Liberationtech Program 
is now defunct and that Stanford University has decided to terminate all 
mailing lists related to the program.
Some of the list subscribers have asked that the names and email addresses of 
all the list subscribers be ported over to a new mailing list. Some have asked 
that a new "organization" be created at Liberationtech.org. The Liberationtech 
Twitter account has already been made independent of Stanford University.
I have asked Stanford's Center for Democracy, Development, and the Rule of Law, 
which created and ran the Liberationtech Program to allow the "community" to 
take over the management of the Program as an entity independent of Stanford 
University. The Center has agreed to do so.
If you would like to participate in the process of helping to shape the new 
organization, please let me know. We will definitely need the help of some good 
web developers and hackers to set up the new site.
Thanks,Yosem
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Re: [liberationtech] Should we start a new Stanford liberationtech-news list?

2017-02-19 Thread Andres Pacheco
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!important; } Ah, the Amazon: it's a jungle down there! 
It takes about half the ~10-hr flight DFW-GRU to traverse it!
"Embrace of the Serpent" is a great movie, where quite a few languages are 
spoken: probably several indigenous amazonic languages (the great Brazilian 
anthropologist Darcy Ribeiro mentions there were over 1,000 language spoken 
there before the Europeans "discovered" the Americas), German, English, 
Spanish, Portuguese...

Another great movie: IXCANUL, in Mayan, from Guatemala 

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On Sunday, February 19, 2017, 3:37 PM, Cecilia Tanaka 
 wrote:

Hi Rick!  Loved your suggestion, thanks!  :*

Yesterday night, I asked some tips, informations and pratical suggestions in 
some groups, but had no many feedbacks yet.  I was searching for some apps and  
- wow! -  most of them want complete access to my account, password included.  
I bet there is some hidden clausule saying I am also donating my soul and all 
my body organs!  Ugh, ugh, ugh!  :P

One of my friends suggested I should code and create it, and sent me one of his 
experiences using tweepy.  

http://ocarneiro.github.io/ blog/2016_02_01-TwitterReach. html  (My friend, 
Otavio, is the lovely guy juggling!  :D)

http://tweepy.readthedocs.io/en/v3.5.0/getting_started.html#introduction

I am still talking with him, but unfortunately my "coding style"  (cof, cof!)  
is so very disastrous, so horrendous that almost became a legend among some 
Python groups.  When I try to code apparently I can summon Godzilla, Cthulhu, 
all the Four Horsemen of Apocalypse, but I can't make anything good...  There 
is a joke on another list which says the last time I tried to code, Trump won 
the elections, meh!  :(( 

Some years ago, when I told to a friend I was reading the Python Cookbook, he 
said:  -  "Hey, wasn't you a veggie?  Snakes taste good?  Which recipe you will 
cook?"  Uff, some North Americans still think we eat snakes and monkeys on 
South America and that Amazon Forest is nearby, on my backyard maybe...  :((
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Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages]

2017-01-14 Thread Andres Pacheco
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!important; } Last time I heard the us govt failed to force Apple to break an 
iPhone. They had to reform to independent contractor mercenaries, I.e. "Evil 
Hackers!" Ergo i infer us law has not yet gotten to the point of requiring 
backdoors in code.


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On Saturday, January 14, 2017, 9:04 AM, carlo von lynX 
 wrote:

On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 10:48:48AM -0300, FL wrote:
> Sadly I'm not a hacker — I'm a lawyer, so I haven't checked their code nor 
> any other company's for that matter.

We have plenty of hackers but not enough lawyers, so your
view on what the laws currently actually imply is very welcome.

> However, my main point remains unaddressed — I'm not sure that American 
> companies are 'required by law' to implement backdoors.

Alright, didn't percieve that as your main point.
Well, here's what I know last time I checked:

- PRISM is a reality
- NSLs have been used to oblige such companies to
    + hand over access to their data centers
    + expect no legal harm when denying any existence of NSLs
    + expect general public to never become aware

Leaks have broken the latter promise, so those companies
had good reasons to be upset. Freedom Act has changed
NSLs in such a way that American citizen must no longer be
bulk collected, NSA must only be allowed to run "selectors"
which in the case of Whatsapp means that some backdoor
must be provided to execute surveillance on such selectors.

Also, I have to look up Casper Bowden's posts again,
somewhere the laws explicitly give zero rights to non-US
citizen - all of humanity is backdoorable and bulk
collectible. And then we have programs like
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscular_%28surveillance_program%29
which explicitly bypass US law.

Isn't Patriot Act essentially obliging the NSA to collect
all it can? If the NSA must do that, then any company
impeding the NSA from doing so is breaching that law, no?


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Re: [liberationtech] Fake News

2017-01-11 Thread Andres Pacheco
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!important;background-color:white;}In my opinion, "fake news" is neither "new" 
nor a US-only phenomenon.
It's just one more trait of a "marketing society."
Giles Deleuze noted it ~40 years ago:

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Foucault-Blog - UZH - Forschungsstelle für Sozial- und Wirtschaftsgeschichte: 
Deleuze, a Split with Foucault 


  
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too bad Aaron Hillel Swartz was "suicided" for trying to open those vaults, but 
fortunately this particular text is freely available on the internet, pick your 
source. This one from UCLA:
http://classes.dma.ucla.edu/Fall15/252A/content/readings/deleuze-postscript-on-the-societies-of-control.pdf
 

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On Wednesday, January 11, 2017, 12:40 AM, F LM  wrote:

As someone who doesn't live in the US, I find this whole "fake news" issue 
somehow confusing. 

It seems to me that it's a very wide concept created by media like The 
Guardian, NYT, etc., in order to discredit certain efforts by Trump supporters 
to influence voters based on false information (social media profiles, online 
articles, etc.). However, as time goes by, I see fake news coming out more and 
more from that same left-wing propaganda machine with misinformation, 
highly-biased pieces and more often than not, blatantly false reports.

What are the first public mentions of this controversial concept in the press? 
Perhaps that would give me a bit more of light.

FL

> On 11-01-2017, at 00:27, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O)  wrote:
> 
>> On 12/09/2016 04:51 AM, Yosem Companys wrote:
>> Anyone know of any academic studies showing that fake (social media)
>> news influenced the 2016 presidential election outcome?
> 
> The election was influenced by fake media alright, but the victory in
> the U.S. elections is *despite* the fake media, not because of it.
> 
> Fake media — CNN, WaPo, The Times., all that brainwashing nonsense — 
> was basically against the winner.  He won nonetheless.
> 
> *shruggie*
> 
> I don't have to live with that result, but it's the truth.
> 
> 
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