Hey guys, I'm adding myself to this list (I was in class of 2010 (CS) --
wow i'm old...)
Natanael, Jens, very glad to see you raising these concerns. I see the
burning of the library as the worst tragedy to befall humanity yet... and
that's a big statement made with clear understanding of genocides,
epidemics, etc. Sagan has a great telling of the story in Cosmos ep1. They
are *exactly* what drove me to make IPFS and Filecoin. (which, funnily,
are precisely in that design line of thinking Natanael ;) )
Anyway, please see these links. More discussion later
- IPFS: ipfs.io (see the talk at 2x) and http://static.benet.ai/t/ipfs.pdf
- Filecoin filecoin.io (see the whitepaper there)
And, if you believe in the same things I do, help build this. I'm hiring,
so reach out.
Juan
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From: Juan Batiz-Benet j...@benet.ai
Date: Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [liberationtech] economic cost of lost emails.
To: Feross Aboukhadijeh fer...@feross.org
thanks for the heads up!! Adding myself to list.
Juan
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Feross Aboukhadijeh fer...@feross.org
wrote:
Whoa, this guy on libtech just described IPFS! I'd give you a shoutout
myself but I'm on mobile only, heading to burning man now. Get on that!
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From: *Natanael* natanae...@gmail.com
Date: Sunday, August 24, 2014
Subject: Re: [liberationtech] economic cost of lost emails.
To: liberationtech liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu
A blockchain of torrent magnet links, of archives of all kinds of data
like everything public that Archive.org holds?
Then you both have it all accessible and you can that verify everybody
sees the same version.
I've been thinking of a sci-fi story concept of archivers collecting and
indexing absolutely everything that matters in a structured append-only
database of sorts (side story, but necessary in my sci-fi world).
Everything would be tagged and sorted and categorized and annotated. It
would be like a P2P Git with more metadata and the ability to search with
all sorts of filters, essentially an open Google/Wolfram Alpha given a
smart enough endpoint, with a bit of IBM Watson. There would be plenty of
separate projects all maintaining their own archives, of which some would
be thoroughly vetted for authencity, and all updates ever would be signed
by the contributors/archivers.
Kind of Wikipedia actually, but with all sorts of filetypes and a full
semantic web, with the hash chain structure of which Git and Bitcoin share
to prove the history of the data, and digital signatures.
It would already be possible to build today (it doesn't need any new
exotic algorithms or other inventions), but designing it can be incredibly
hard considering you'd have to figure out a standard way to handle
cross-referencing and annotation across all kinds of filetypes, and that
you need to define a data structure that won't need to be replaced every
few months because of frequently discovered limitations.
- Sent from my phone
Den 24 aug 2014 21:40 skrev J.M. Porup j...@porup.com:
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014, at 15:19, taltman wrote:
I don't know exactly what is meant by eventuality of digital book
burning, but here's my opinion on the nuts and bolts of protecting your
data:
I believe we are approaching a Library of Alexandria moment. We have
created an Information Age in which nothing is secure, and deleting
unwanted information (thought crime) is trivial. Furthermore, infotech
has redistributed power from the people to the government. It would be
naive to expect this power to go unabused. Totalitarianism is in
the wind.
If we really want a permanent archive of humanity's work, we
need to build some kind of distributed Noah's Ark. Archive.org is
no good (book depositories are the first to go when the book-burning
starts), and asking the book-burners at the NSA and GCHQ to guard
our civilization's store of knowledge is laughable on its face.
Something P2P, maybe blockchain-based, might work. Convincing people
of the reality and urgency of the threat is another matter.
Jens
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