Re: [liberationtech] Secure and Cheap Provider in Sweden or Iceland?

2013-06-14 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 02:51:05PM -0400, Lorenzo Franceschi Bicchierai wrote:
 Hey guys,
 
 In lieu of the recent NSA leaks, I'm going to transfer my website to a new
 provider in either Sweden or Iceland (because well, you never know).
 Griffin Boyce suggested I use moln.is, do you guys have any other

1984.is is another option.

 suggestion? Any other kind of advice?

We need something like Tahoe LAFS as a backend that scales,
and has a way to find your content without resorting to
DNS centralism. The only way to avoid censorship and
surveillance long-term is to access something that starts
with localhost, a weird port, and has a longish 
cryptohash postfixed (perhaps prettified with a 
P2P name resolution, or foundable with a distributed
P2P search engine indexing that particular darknet).

It's a hard problem, but not unsolvable one.
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Re: [liberationtech] Secure and Cheap Provider in Sweden or Iceland?

2013-06-14 Thread Jens Christian Hillerup
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Lorenzo Franceschi Bicchierai 
lorenzo...@gmail.com wrote:

 In lieu of the recent NSA leaks, I'm going to transfer my website to a new
 provider in either Sweden or Iceland (because well, you never know).
 Griffin Boyce suggested I use moln.is, do you guys have any other
 suggestion? Any other kind of advice?


I've heard good stuff about greenqloud.com. Not only are they in Iceland,
but they seem to have a pretty good environmental observance, if you value
that.

JC
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Re: [liberationtech] Secure and Cheap Provider in Sweden or Iceland?

2013-06-14 Thread The Doctor
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On 06/13/2013 02:51 PM, Lorenzo Franceschi Bicchierai wrote:

 In lieu of the recent NSA leaks, I'm going to transfer my website
 to a new provider in either Sweden or Iceland (because well, you
 never know). Griffin Boyce suggested I use moln.is
 http://moln.is, do you guys have any other suggestion? Any other
 kind of advice?

1984.is have been very helpful to colleagues of mine.  The boxen over
there are said to be very stable.

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Re: [liberationtech] Secure and Cheap Provider in Sweden or Iceland?

2013-06-14 Thread Griffin Boyce
The Doctor dr...@virtadpt.net wrote:

 1984.is have been very helpful to colleagues of mine.  The boxen over
 there are said to be very stable.


The only downside with 1984 is they require you to order an annual
subscription, rather than monthly.
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Re: [liberationtech] Secure and Cheap Provider in Sweden or Iceland?

2013-06-14 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)

On 6/13/13 8:51 PM, Lorenzo Franceschi Bicchierai wrote:

Hey guys,

In lieu of the recent NSA leaks, I'm going to transfer my website to a 
new provider in either Sweden or Iceland (because well, you never 
know). Griffin Boyce suggested I use moln.is http://moln.is, do you 
guys have any other suggestion? Any other kind of advice?


For email uses, to achieve some geo-political protection, i wrote 
something a while ago that maybe interesting:

https://mailman.stanford.edu/pipermail/liberationtech/2012-February/003144.html

- Split your communication flow
- Stay on countries with (strong economy  strong privacy law)

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Re: [liberationtech] Secure and Cheap Provider in Sweden or Iceland?

2013-06-14 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 01:32:14PM -0400, Griffin Boyce wrote:
 The Doctor dr...@virtadpt.net wrote:
 
  1984.is have been very helpful to colleagues of mine.  The boxen over
  there are said to be very stable.
 
 
 The only downside with 1984 is they require you to order an annual
 subscription, rather than monthly.

Are you sure about that? Ours can be canceled monthly.
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Re: [liberationtech] Secure and Cheap Provider in Sweden or Iceland?

2013-06-14 Thread Griffin Boyce
Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:

  The only downside with 1984 is they require you to order an annual
  subscription, rather than monthly.

 Are you sure about that? Ours can be canceled monthly.


At least with the signing up, there's no monthly option on the English site.

~Griffin
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Re: [liberationtech] Secure and Cheap Provider in Sweden or Iceland?

2013-06-14 Thread h0ost
On 06/14/2013 01:32 PM, Griffin Boyce wrote:
 The Doctor dr...@virtadpt.net wrote:
 
 1984.is have been very helpful to colleagues of mine.  The boxen over
 there are said to be very stable.
 
 
 The only downside with 1984 is they require you to order an annual
 subscription, rather than monthly.
 
 
 

The other issue with them is that their VPS service does not offer a
control panel (as of yet).  So, if your server goes down, the only way
to restart it is to email their customer support to do it for you.

Having said that, their support is really good, and I think they are
working on having a control panel.

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[liberationtech] Secure and Cheap Provider in Sweden or Iceland?

2013-06-13 Thread Lorenzo Franceschi Bicchierai
Hey guys,

In lieu of the recent NSA leaks, I'm going to transfer my website to a new
provider in either Sweden or Iceland (because well, you never know).
Griffin Boyce suggested I use moln.is, do you guys have any other
suggestion? Any other kind of advice?

Thanks!

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Re: [liberationtech] Secure and Cheap Provider in Sweden or Iceland?

2013-06-13 Thread Patrick Mylund Nielsen
Sweden isn't much better when it comes to wiretapping:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FRA_law. Iceland is probably a good choice.


On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Lorenzo Franceschi Bicchierai 
lorenzo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey guys,

 In lieu of the recent NSA leaks, I'm going to transfer my website to a new
 provider in either Sweden or Iceland (because well, you never know).
 Griffin Boyce suggested I use moln.is, do you guys have any other
 suggestion? Any other kind of advice?

 Thanks!

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Re: [liberationtech] Secure and Cheap Provider in Sweden or Iceland?

2013-06-13 Thread Bill Best
On 13 June 2013 19:51, Lorenzo Franceschi Bicchierai
lorenzo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey guys,

 In lieu of the recent NSA leaks, I'm going to transfer my website to a new
 provider in either Sweden or Iceland (because well, you never know). Griffin
 Boyce suggested I use moln.is, do you guys have any other suggestion? Any
 other kind of advice?

 Thanks!

 --
 Lorenzo Franceschi-Bicchierai

Hi

This company:

http://ecodissident.net/

hosts websites out of Iceland specifically because of the Icelandic
Modern Media Initiative (https://immi.is/):

Iceland will become the inverse of a tax haven; by offering
journalists and publishers some of the most powerful protections for
free speech and investigative journalism in the world. Tax havens aim
is to make everything opaque. Our aim is to make everything
transparent. — Birgitta Jónsdóttir, the chief sponsor in parliament of
the Icelandic Modern Media Initiative.

Regards

Bill Best
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Re: [liberationtech] Secure and Cheap Provider in Sweden or Iceland?

2013-06-13 Thread Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes
About Sweden: a person from the Swedish Pirate Party, which has a
bunker data center there, was quoted in a video on Julian Assange
saying that Sweden, in security matters, is the US lapdog.
Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato,

Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes
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On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Anthony Papillion
anth...@cajuntechie.org wrote:
 On 06/13/2013 01:51 PM, Lorenzo Franceschi Bicchierai wrote:
 Hey guys,

 In lieu of the recent NSA leaks, I'm going to transfer my website to a
 new provider in either Sweden or Iceland (because well, you never know).
 Griffin Boyce suggested I use moln.is http://moln.is, do you guys have
 any other suggestion? Any other kind of advice?

 I know you're looking for out of the US providers, but why not consider
 hosting it yourself? If you've got the tech know-how, it's pretty easy
 and offers you a few more guarantees than putting it out at a provider.
 Of course, there's added costs and manpower which you may be wanting to
 avoid but, if not, why not consider that?

 A.

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Re: [liberationtech] Secure and Cheap Provider in Sweden or Iceland?

2013-06-13 Thread Mikael Nordfeldth
2013-06-13 20:51, Lorenzo Franceschi Bicchierai skrev:
 In lieu of the recent NSA leaks, I'm going to transfer my website to a
 new provider in either Sweden or Iceland (because well, you never know).
 Griffin Boyce suggested I use moln.is http://moln.is, do you guys have
 any other suggestion? Any other kind of advice?

Hi, another choice is to find someone in Sweden willing to be your proxy
to send an encased Raspberry Pi with installed SD card and power
cable/adapter to FS Data, as they offer free (gratis) hosting with 1
Mb/s full duplex:

   Info [Swedish]: https://fsdata.se/server/raspberry-pi-colocation/
   Requirements: Only 1 per Swedish citizen. Case max size: 10x3x7 cm
   You get: 1 routable, PTR:able IP (not IPv6 yet) and 100GB/month.

Even if they would quit this gratis service after a couple of months
(remember to keep backups ;)), it'd be worth the small cost of purchase
and shipping. Their official response on the company blog is however
that they're not going to end the gratis service in the foreseeable future.

I've no idea whether FS Data are devoted to good privacy policies or
anything. But then again, I don't think those things mean a whole lot
when dealing with third-party hosting anyway. Any profit-driven company
offering a service like this will either:
   1) let the police take your computer when they come with a warrant.
   2) be raided by the police so they get whichever computer they want.

(even Bahnhof, who many will probably recommend as they have managed to
pull several PR stunts on privacy and integrity, are fully
commercial and won't stand up against the police if they have a warrant)

Another choice is just to move here. Thanks to our relatively high
taxes, we've got good healthcare and social security. You're very
welcome (and we currently are in need of some more people fighting for a
free internet, but no real panic just as of yet).

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