Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2019-06-27 Thread M Henri Day 
Den tors 27 juni 2019 kl 16:23 skrev Michael Meeks <
michael.me...@collabora.com>:

> * Present:
> + Sophie, Kendy, Oliver, Christian, Stephan, Michael S, Michael W
>   Michael M, Caolan, Gabriel, Eike, Xisco, Thorsten, Heiko
>
> * Completed Action Items:
> + send Arkadij a welcome mail (Stephan)
>
> * Pending Action Items:
>
> * Release Engineering update (Christian)
> + 6.2.5 rc2
>   + tagged yesterday
>   + 2 patches in gerrit that didn’t make it
>   + builds on the pre-release server → mirror network later today
> + 6.2.6 rc1 – due end of July
> + 6.3.0 rc1 – next week
>   + hard string & UI freeze.
>   + from rc1 – 1x review required for fixes libreoffice-6-3
>   + for now no review, just fixes.
> + Remotes
> + Android viewer
> + Online
>
> * Documentation (Olivier)
> + New Help (no news)
>+ seems to work correctly.
> + Helpcontent2
>+ Housekeeping, de-dup bookmarks (G. Kelemen)
>+ Bug fixes and updates (olivier, LibreOfficiant)
> + Google Seasons of Doc
>+ Deadline for Tech writer submission is tomorrow (28)
> + Guides
>+ Update Calc Guide
>   + more chapters updated
>   + Need support on Solver engines (mail to list) (Steve Fanning)
>   + would love help from a calc developer.
>
> * UX Update (Heiko)
> + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
> 236(236) (topicUI) bugs open, 217(217) (needsUXEval) needs to be
> evaluated by the UXteam
> + Updates:
> BZ changes   1 week1 month   3 months   12 months
>  added  6(-5) 27(3) 38(4)   81(3)
>  commented 54(-31)   200(36)   441(20)1410(33)
>removed  0(0)   0(0)  3(0)   18(0)
>   resolved  1(-3)  9(-1)31(-4) 135(0)
> + top 10 contributors:
>   Thomas Lendo made 60 changes in 1 month, and 246 changes in 1
> year
>   Heiko Tietze made 47 changes in 1 month, and 50 changes in 1 year
>   Foote, V Stuart made 43 changes in 1 month, and 222 changes in 1
> year
>   Tietze, Heiko made 42 changes in 1 month, and 522 changes in 1
> year
>   Dieter Praas made 35 changes in 1 month, and 131 changes in 1
> year
>   kompilainenn made 35 changes in 1 month, and 217 changes in 1
> year
>   Cor Nouws made 22 changes in 1 month, and 117 changes in 1 year
>   Xisco Faulí made 21 changes in 1 month, and 250 changes in 1 year
>   Mehrbrodt, Samuel made 19 changes in 1 month, and 87 changes in
> 1 year
>   Telesto made 19 changes in 1 month, and 53 changes in 1 year
>  + New needsUXEval between Jun/21-27
>
>* TABLE AUTOFORMAT: Rename dialog to table styles
>  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126050
>* FORMATTING
>  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126047
>=> WFM
>
>* CHAPTER NUMBERING DIALOG: Give option to seperate different
> chapter
>  levels with a dash
>  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125993
>* [Website] Download page should support non-English users better
>  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125961
>* Implement the Sidebar in Math formula editor, with decks for
> format
>  options and Greek and special symbols
>  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125931
>* Enhancement: Tables, Pagebreak: "keep with next row" feature
>  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125972
>=> UNCONFIRMED/in discussion
>
> -> * Show short tooltip before the extended tooltip
>  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125999
>* Increasing margin size does not reflect new constraints for header
>  values without closing and reopening the Page Style dialog
>  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126009
>=> NEW
>
> -> * Icon styles should not modify official application icons in start
>  center (and other relevant places)
>  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126074
>+ should we have a strong branding of app-icons ?
>+ different views, easy-recognized branded icons or … customizable.
>  + no technical basis here (Michael)
>=> interesting
>
> + blog-post published yesterday about easy-hacking:
>+ examples on how to create a new dialog:
>+
> https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2019/06/26/how-to-create-a-new-dialog/
>+ really useful – good work (Michael)
>
>
> * Crash Testing (Caolan)
> + Crash testing:
>   + 8(-1) import failure, 3(-186) export failures
>   + stable, Michael S fixed an assert in here
>   + 2 are crashers in pivot table export
>   + writer are exceptions / problems in non-idle layout case
> + Google

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2019-06-27 Thread M Henri Day 
Den tors 27 juni 2019 kl 16:23 skrev Michael Meeks <
michael.me...@collabora.com>:

> * Present:
> + Sophie, Kendy, Oliver, Christian, Stephan, Michael S, Michael W
>   Michael M, Caolan, Gabriel, Eike, Xisco, Thorsten, Heiko
>
> * Completed Action Items:
> + send Arkadij a welcome mail (Stephan)
>
> * Pending Action Items:
>
> * Release Engineering update (Christian)
> + 6.2.5 rc2
>   + tagged yesterday
>   + 2 patches in gerrit that didn’t make it
>   + builds on the pre-release server → mirror network later today
> + 6.2.6 rc1 – due end of July
> + 6.3.0 rc1 – next week
>   + hard string & UI freeze.
>   + from rc1 – 1x review required for fixes libreoffice-6-3
>   + for now no review, just fixes.
> + Remotes
> + Android viewer
> + Online
>
> * Documentation (Olivier)
> + New Help (no news)
>+ seems to work correctly.
> + Helpcontent2
>+ Housekeeping, de-dup bookmarks (G. Kelemen)
>+ Bug fixes and updates (olivier, LibreOfficiant)
> + Google Seasons of Doc
>+ Deadline for Tech writer submission is tomorrow (28)
> + Guides
>+ Update Calc Guide
>   + more chapters updated
>   + Need support on Solver engines (mail to list) (Steve Fanning)
>   + would love help from a calc developer.
>
> * UX Update (Heiko)
> + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
> 236(236) (topicUI) bugs open, 217(217) (needsUXEval) needs to be
> evaluated by the UXteam
> + Updates:
> BZ changes   1 week1 month   3 months   12 months
>  added  6(-5) 27(3) 38(4)   81(3)
>  commented 54(-31)   200(36)   441(20)1410(33)
>removed  0(0)   0(0)  3(0)   18(0)
>   resolved  1(-3)  9(-1)31(-4) 135(0)
> + top 10 contributors:
>   Thomas Lendo made 60 changes in 1 month, and 246 changes in 1
> year
>   Heiko Tietze made 47 changes in 1 month, and 50 changes in 1 year
>   Foote, V Stuart made 43 changes in 1 month, and 222 changes in 1
> year
>   Tietze, Heiko made 42 changes in 1 month, and 522 changes in 1
> year
>   Dieter Praas made 35 changes in 1 month, and 131 changes in 1
> year
>   kompilainenn made 35 changes in 1 month, and 217 changes in 1
> year
>   Cor Nouws made 22 changes in 1 month, and 117 changes in 1 year
>   Xisco Faulí made 21 changes in 1 month, and 250 changes in 1 year
>   Mehrbrodt, Samuel made 19 changes in 1 month, and 87 changes in
> 1 year
>   Telesto made 19 changes in 1 month, and 53 changes in 1 year
>  + New needsUXEval between Jun/21-27
>
>* TABLE AUTOFORMAT: Rename dialog to table styles
>  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126050
>* FORMATTING
>  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126047
>=> WFM
>
>* CHAPTER NUMBERING DIALOG: Give option to seperate different
> chapter
>  levels with a dash
>  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125993
>* [Website] Download page should support non-English users better
>  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125961
>* Implement the Sidebar in Math formula editor, with decks for
> format
>  options and Greek and special symbols
>  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125931
>* Enhancement: Tables, Pagebreak: "keep with next row" feature
>  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125972
>=> UNCONFIRMED/in discussion
>
> -> * Show short tooltip before the extended tooltip
>  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125999
>* Increasing margin size does not reflect new constraints for header
>  values without closing and reopening the Page Style dialog
>  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126009
>=> NEW
>
> -> * Icon styles should not modify official application icons in start
>  center (and other relevant places)
>  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126074
>+ should we have a strong branding of app-icons ?
>+ different views, easy-recognized branded icons or … customizable.
>  + no technical basis here (Michael)
>=> interesting
>
> + blog-post published yesterday about easy-hacking:
>+ examples on how to create a new dialog:
>+
> https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2019/06/26/how-to-create-a-new-dialog/
>+ really useful – good work (Michael)
>
>
> * Crash Testing (Caolan)
> + Crash testing:
>   + 8(-1) import failure, 3(-186) export failures
>   + stable, Michael S fixed an assert in here
>   + 2 are crashers in pivot table export
>   + writer are exceptions / problems in non-idle layout case
> + Google

Fwd: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of 2018-10-04 ESC call

2018-10-04 Thread M Henri Day 
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From: M Henri Day 
Date: tors 4 okt. 2018 kl 18:41
Subject: Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of 2018-10-04 ESC call
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Den tors 4 okt. 2018 kl 16:24 skrev Stephan Bergmann :

> * Present:
>  + Heiko, Kendy, Olivier, Sophie, Xisco, Andras, Miklos, Stephan,
> Caolán, Eike
>
> * Completed Action Items:
>
> * Pending Action Items:
>  + default bitergia filter for master + libreoffice-* (Christian)
>  [ enabled for gerrit (default) view enabled, but default git
>view needs improving with external script ]
>  + disable editing for the android viewer except in alpha programme
> (Christian)
>  + add screenshot builder to the sanitizer builds (Stephan)
>  + add screenshot builder to basic build stats (Cloph)
>  + setup new CentOS7 baseline VM (Cloph)
>
> * Release Engineering update (Christian, Xisco)
>  + as per the public wiki, time-based release plan.
>  + sub-divided by major releases etc.
>  + 6.0.7 RC1 – tagged on Wed
>  + builds available from pre-releases soon
>  + 6.1.3 RC1 - Week start Oct 8th
>  + 6.2 Alpha 1
>  + due in ~2 weeks. (week Oct 15th)
>  + Remotes
>  + no news.
>  + Android viewer
>  + Online
>
> * Documentation (Olivier)
>  + Post-Tirana
>  + Help contents
>  + Refactor some pages to reduce L10n (ohallot)
>  + Fix typos (A. Gelmini)
>  + Remove obsolete Help pages on colors (buovjaga)
>  + Updates in HC (Cor Nouws)
>  + New Help
>  + Fixed the bookmark issue for dialogs (ohallot)
>  + Ongoing work on online help editor
>  + Olivier on vacation next week
>
> * UX Update (Heiko)
>  + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
>  254(254) (topicUI) bugs open, 295(295) (needsUXEval) needs to
> be evaluated by the UXteam
>  + Updates:
>  BZ changes   1 week1 month3 months   12 months
>   added  4(-10)23(-4) 40(-1)  97(-1)
>   commented 45(-12)   154(-18)   377(6) 1568(8)
> removed  0(0)   1(0)   2(0)6(0)
>resolved  1(-1)  6(0)  30(1)  137(-1)
>  + top 10 contributors:
>Thomas Lendo made 85 changes in 1 month, and 278 changes in 1
> year
>Tietze, Heiko made 68 changes in 1 month, and 562 changes in
> 1 year
>Zolnai, Tamás made 52 changes in 1 month, and 148 changes in
> 1 year
>Kainz, Andreas made 33 changes in 1 month, and 151 changes in
> 1 year
>Cor Nouws made 16 changes in 1 month, and 96 changes in 1 year
>Foote, V Stuart made 12 changes in 1 month, and 225 changes
> in 1 year
>Xisco Faulí made 11 changes in 1 month, and 281 changes in 1
> year
>kompilainenn made 11 changes in 1 month, and 44 changes in 1
> year
>Drew Jensen made 9 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
>Telesto made 7 changes in 1 month, and 66 changes in 1 year
> New tickets with needsUXAdvice since Sep/21:
>
>   * Improvement of Document converter
> + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120006
>
>   * Display metric units on ruler in multiples of 5 when possible (i.e.,
> for certain scale + zoom levels)
> + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77824
>
>   * Non-hidden children of hidden styles appear in top level of sidebar
> + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119919
>
>   * Table alignment to center does not recenter upon table resizing
> + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120026
>
>   * CONFIGURATION: paragraph style sheets in in wrong language when
> using wizard
> + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65259
>
>   * Add a command line argument to LibreOffice in order to choose the
> language of the document which will be created
> + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119576
>
>   * FORMATTING Sub- and superscript format is inherited by new paragraphs
> + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70554
>
>   * Disabling "Get involved" infobar in enterprise installs
> + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120271
>
>   * Bulleting and numbered lists are severely broken in 5.4.3.2
> + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114059
>
>   * UI: Cursor disappears when expanding/collapsing the sidebar
> + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120231
>
>+ “GetInvolved” menu items added to help menus, to appear on master
> next week
>
> * Crash Testing (Caolan

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Feb-09

2017-02-09 Thread M Henri Day 
2017-02-09 13:50 GMT+01:00 Heiko Tietze :

> Present: tomaz, steve, heiko, alex, jay, stuart
>
> We talked today only about accessibility for the sidebar. The decisions
> are in the Gdoc https://docs.google.com/document/d/
> 1oKabPLLVe9s53i475W1-v0QA7cxc_0oT0qfVr68KWjM. Next steps are to write up
> the guidelines and publish finally on the blog for the community.
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​Many thanks, Heiko, to all of you for the work you are doing on this
matter. Would it be possible to request the option to customise toolbar
*location*, so that it could be moved from the right to the left side by
those of us who, for one reason or another, are so inclined ?...

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Feb-09

2017-02-09 Thread M Henri Day 
2017-02-09 13:50 GMT+01:00 Heiko Tietze :

> Present: tomaz, steve, heiko, alex, jay, stuart
>
> We talked today only about accessibility for the sidebar. The decisions
> are in the Gdoc https://docs.google.com/document/d/
> 1oKabPLLVe9s53i475W1-v0QA7cxc_0oT0qfVr68KWjM. Next steps are to write up
> the guidelines and publish finally on the blog for the community.
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​Many thanks, Heiko, to all of you for the work you are doing on this
matter. Would it be possible to request the option to customise toolbar
*location*, so that it could be moved from the right to the left side by
those of us who, for one reason or another, are so inclined ?...

Henri
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] happy new year

2017-01-02 Thread M Henri Day 
2017-01-01 12:02 GMT+01:00 Cor Nouws :

> Hi friends,
>
> Wishing you a year full of compassion, which is a great source of peace
> and happiness. And much joy with our work on LibreOffice.
>
> Cor
>
> --
> Cor Nouws
> GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28  A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6
> - vrijwilliger http://nl.libreoffice.org
> - volunteer http://www.libreoffice.org
> - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member
>

​Thank you, Cor, for your kind wishes - compassion will no doubt be needed
as much as ever in the year ahead ! And thank you and all the others
contributing to the LibreOffice project - that's compassion for us users in
the most concrete way possible !...

Henri
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] More information in About dialog

2016-03-11 Thread M Henri Day 
2016-03-11 15:05 GMT+01:00 V Stuart Foote :

> mhenriday wrote
> > I'd still like to know how to confirm that the same is true of the
> > LibO version I have installed
>
> Suspect a terminal session with cd to the LibreOffice installation and
> running "file soffice" would suffice.
>

​Thanks, Stuart and Pedro ! After cd-ing into /usr/lib/libreoffice/program​
​ and carrying out file soffice.bin. I got the following :

soffice.bin: ELF 64-bit LSB  executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV),
dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.24,
BuildID[sha1]=27493df93a63ab929c8e9776855d748b5b73ba4c, stripped

Now I know !... :-)

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] More information in About dialog

2016-03-11 Thread M Henri Day 
​2​
016-03-11 13:00 GMT+01:00 Pedro :

> Hi Henri
>
> mhenriday wrote
> > Version: 5.1.1.2
> > Build ID: 1:5.1.1~rc2-0ubuntu1~trusty0
> > CPU-trådar: 4; Version av operativsystem: Linux 4.2; UI-rendering:
> > standard;
> > Språkinställning: sv-SE (sv_SE.UTF-8)
> >
> > but no information on whether the version I have installed is, in fact,
> > 32-bit or 64-bit. Is there anyway to obtain this information ?...
>
> Assuming that the logic that Stuart mentioned for LibreOffice under Windows
> also applies to Linux (it should) then since your LibreOffice reports
> "Version: 5.1.1.2" it is the 32bit (x86) version (otherwise it would say
> "Version: 5.1.1.2 (x64)")
> I assume that your Linux Mint is probably also 32bit since the ppa should
> get the same architecture as the OS...
>
> Hope this helps
> Pedro
>

​Thanks for your speedy reply, Pedro !​ My Linux Mint 17.3-version is, on
the contrary, a 64-bit version, which I could confirm by running *uname -a*
in a terminal, as seen below :

Linux XX 4.2.0-27-generic #32~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 22
15:32:26 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Thus, if, indeed, the ppa's do automatically follow system architecture, my
version of LibO should be 64-bit. But I should very much like to be able to
confirm this

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] More information in About dialog

2016-03-11 Thread M Henri Day 
2016-03-07 18:47 GMT+01:00 Pedro :

> Hi all
>
> The most frequent questions from people providing help in the User mailing
> list and in the Bug tracker is: "What is your OS architecture?", "Are you
> using the 32 bit version of LibreOffice ?"
>
> Isn't it possible that this information is included in the About dialog?
>
> In addition to
>
> Version: 5.1.1.3
> Build ID: 89f508ef3ecebd2cfb8e1def0f0ba9a803b88a6d
> CPU Threads: 2; OS Version: Windows 5.1; UI Render: default;
> Locale: pt-PT (pt_PT)
>
> something like
>
> Version: 5.1.1.3 *(x86 = 32bit)*
> Build ID: 89f508ef3ecebd2cfb8e1def0f0ba9a803b88a6d
> CPU Threads: 2; OS Version: Windows 5.1 *(x64 =64bit)*; UI Render: default;
> Locale: pt-PT (pt_PT)
>
> Of course supporting users would still have to ask the user to copy and
> paste the info from the About dialog, but it would save the time to ask
> (and/or explain) the OS architecture and the LibreOffice architecture (most
> new Windows machines have an x64 OS but you can't assume that LibreOffice
> is
> also...)
>
> Should I create an enhancement request on this? Is it useful? Will someone
> care?
>
> Cheers,
> Pedro
>

​On Linux Mint 17.3, I install newer versions of ​
​LO via a ppa, but there I find no information regarding whether the
versions to be installed are 32-bit or 64-bit. If I check my current
version in LO, I see the following :

Version: 5.1.1.2
Build ID: 1:5.1.1~rc2-0ubuntu1~trusty0
CPU-trådar: 4; Version av operativsystem: Linux 4.2; UI-rendering:
standard;
Språkinställning: sv-SE (sv_SE.UTF-8)

but no information on whether the version I have installed is, in fact,
32-bit or 64-bit. Is there anyway to obtain this information ?...

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice 4.4.4 RC1 available

2015-05-30 Thread M Henri Day 
2015-05-30 15:04 GMT+02:00 Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com:

 Dear Community,

 The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first release
 candidate of LibreOffice 4.4.4. The upcoming 4.4.4 will be the first
 in a sequence of frequent bugfix release for our feature-packed 4.4
 line. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.4.4 RC1 is not been flagged
 as ready for production use yet, however feel free to give it a try
 instead of 4.4.3.

 A work-in-progress list of new features in LibreOffice 4.4 can be
 found at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.4

 The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
 builds download page at

   http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

 Developers and QA might also be interested in the symbol server for
 windows debug information (see the release notes linked below for
 details)

 Should you find bugs, please report them to our Bugzilla:

   https://bugs.documentfoundation.org

 A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
 specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:


 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

 For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
 e.g. contribute code:

   http://www.libreoffice.org/community/developers/

 translate LibreOffice to your language:

   http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

 or help with funding our operations:

   http://donate.libreoffice.org/

 A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.4.4 RC1 is available
 from our wiki:

   http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.4.4/RC1

 Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
 contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
 been possible without your help.

 On behalf of the Community,

 Robinson


 --
 Robinson Tryon
 QA Engineer - The Document Foundation


​Kudos and thanks, Robinson, to you and to all the members of the
development team !...

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.4.3 rc2 test builds available

2015-04-29 Thread M Henri Day 
2015-04-29 14:38 GMT+02:00 Christian Lohmaier lohma...@googlemail.com:

 Hi *,

 for the upcoming new version 4.4.3 the builds for RC2 are now
 available on pre-releases.

 It is a build in release-configuration, meaning that it will update a
 previous version of LibreOffice on Windows.
 Linux and Mac users can install alongside LibreOffice 4.3

 See

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.4#4.4.3_release

 for the complete schedule.

 Grab the builds from here here:

  http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/

 The list of fixed bugs relative to 4.4.3 rc1 is here:


 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/src/bugs-libreoffice-4-4-3-release-4.4.3.2.log

 So playing with the areas touched there also greatly appreciated  -
 and validation that those bugs are really fixed.

 Thanks a lot for your help,
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​Thanks for this heads-up, Christian !​ I previously installed 4.4.3 RC 1
on my (64-bit) Windows8.1 boxes ; after reading your message above I
checked for updates in the programme, but received, as I usually do in LO -
see previous messages on this topic - a message to the effect that «LO is
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b2f347f2ac68821efc00b6f1793cda90af748118 (and language setting sv_SE). Is
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install RC 2 separately (I'd really like to see that problem with the
update checker fixed) ? (When it comes to versions for Linux, upon which I
depend for production, I'll wait until the PPA forwards me the 4.4.3 stable
version, which, if I understand the schedule aright, will be released next
week)

Many thanks for wonderful work the developers devote to making LO the
fantastic product it is !... [?]

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] MozTrap tests for 5.0.0 alpha

2015-04-22 Thread M Henri Day 
2015-04-22 17:49 GMT+02:00 Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com:

 Hi all,

 I didn't found the time yet to upload new tests for the new features.
 I'll do so by the end of the week and will create a run for the alpha
 version.
 What is yet written is the test on the new handling of scientific
 notation. I'll go on with what is on the wiki.
 If you have something that need special testing, please let me know.
 Cheers
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.4.0 rc3 test builds available

2015-01-24 Thread M Henri Day 
2015-01-24 15:59 GMT+01:00 Christian Lohmaier lohma...@googlemail.com:

 Hi *,

 On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 3:24 PM, M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com wrote:
  2015-01-24 10:55 GMT+01:00 Christian Lohmaier lohma...@googlemail.com:
 
 
 
 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/src/bugs-libreoffice-4-4-0-release-4.4.0.2.log
 
  Christian, when I attempt to open the
  link to the list of squashed bugs above, I get a 404 error

 Sorry, should have been:

 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/src/bugs-libreoffice-4-4-0-release-4.4.0.3.log

 ciao
 Christian


​Thanks, Christian - the new link worked perfectly ! And thanks for all the
work that you and the other developers are putting in to make LibreOffice
the magnificent success that it is !...

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.4.0 rc3 test builds available

2015-01-24 Thread M Henri Day 
2015-01-24 10:55 GMT+01:00 Christian Lohmaier lohma...@googlemail.com:

 Hi *,

 for the upcoming new version 4.4.0 the builds for RC3 are now
 available on pre-releases.

 It is a build in release-configuration, meaning that it will update a
 previous version of LibreOffice on Windows.
 Linux and Mac users can install alongside LibreOffice 4.3

 RC3 is the last scheduled RC

 See

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.4#4.4.0_release

 for the complete schedule (there is one additional RC planned)

 Grab the builds from here here:

  http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/

 The list of fixed bugs relative to 4.4.0 rc2 is here:


 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/src/bugs-libreoffice-4-4-0-release-4.4.0.2.log

 So playing with the areas touched there also greatly appreciated  -
 and validation that those bugs are really fixed.

 Thanks a lot for your help,
 Christian


​Christian, when I attempt to open the ​
​link to the list of squashed bugs above, I get a 404 error

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LIbreOffice 4.4.0 RC2 available

2015-01-11 Thread M Henri Day 
2015-01-11 0:34 GMT+01:00 Christian Lohmaier lohma...@googlemail.com:

 Dear Community,

 The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the second release
 candidate of LibreOffice 4.4.0. The upcoming 4.4.0 will be the ninth
 major release of LibreOffice, coming with a bunch of new features
 beside the usual bugfixes.

 RC2 is in release configuration and can be be installed alongside the
 stable version on linux and Mac OS X, but will update an earlier
 version on Windows.

 RC2 is not ready for production yet (there is one additional RC
 planned), and while it marks hard code freeze, translations are
 not all up-to-date yet.

 A work-in-progress list of new features in LibreOffice 4.4 can be
 found at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.4

 The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
 builds download page at

   http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

 Developers and QA might also be interested in the symbol server for
 windows debug information (see the release notes linked below for
 details)

 Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

   https://bugs.freedesktop.org

 A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
 specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:


 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

 For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
 e.g. contribute code:

   http://www.libreoffice.org/community/developers/

 translate LibreOffice to your language:

   http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

 or help with funding our operations:

   https://donate.libreoffice.org/

 A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.4.0 RC2 is available
 from our wiki:

   http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.4.0/RC2

 Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
 contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
 been possible without your help.

 On behalf of the Community,

 Christian


​Wonderful work, Christian ; we users are in your debt and that of all the
developers !​

​I am particularly glad to see that the «Find and replace»​ button has
become part of the standard toolbar setup i Writer ; I have always meant to
ask why this most useful feature was not given the priority (I thought) it
deserved - but now, at last, it has !...

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice Chinese (Traditional) Team

2014-12-12 Thread M Henri Day 
2014-12-12 17:25 GMT+01:00 Florian Reisinger flo...@libreoffice.org:

 Sorry,

 seemded valid (Title)

 --
 Liebe Grüße, / Yours,
 Florian Reisinger


​Well, Florian, you managed to confuse me and intrigue me at the same time
- what's teh above all about ?...

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LO master still crashing on Tools - Options - LibreOfficeDev Base

2014-10-26 Thread M Henri Day 
2014-10-26 9:46 GMT+01:00 Thomas Hackert thack...@nexgo.de:

 Good morning @ll,
 I am still able to reproduce the crash with Tools – Options –
 LibreOfficeDev Base, which I reported here on 3rd of October (see

 http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/2014-October/007849.html)
 ... :( Will this bug also be in the upcoming
 4.4.0.0alpha1, which should be (already?) released (soon?),
 according to
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.4?

 Steps to reproduce:
 1. Start LO
 2. go to Tools – Options – LibreOfficeDev Base and either click on
 Connections or Database

 LO immediately crashes ... :(

 Tested with:
 LO: Version: 4.4.0.0.alpha1+ Build ID:
 3f5251675ae56ea282fdeb09dbc53ce4aae6 TinderBox: Linux-rpm_deb-
 x86@45-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 2014-10-26_01:09:19
 (parallel installed, following the instructions from
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel)
 OS: Debian Testing i686

 Could someone else also still reproduce it on a different system?
 TIA for testing
 Thomas.

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 goes a-begging.
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​Tested on Version: 4.3.2.2 (Build ID: 430m0(Build:2)​
​) on 64-bit Linux Mint 17 ; no crashing​

​when clicking on either «Connections» or «Database»​ ? Is the bug reported
by Thomas above a reversion ?...

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LIbreOffice 4.3.0 RC3 available

2014-07-19 Thread M Henri Day 
2014-07-18 22:45 GMT+02:00 Christian Lohmaier lohma...@googlemail.com:

 Dear Community,

 The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the third release
 candidate of LibreOffice 4.3.0. The upcoming 4.3.0 will be the eighth
 major release of LibreOffice, coming with a bunch of new features
 beside the usual bugfixes.

 RC3 is in release configuration and can be be installed alongside the
 stable version on linux and Mac OS X, but will update an earlier
 version on Windows.

 RC3 is the last scheduled RC.

 A work-in-progress list of new features in LibreOffice 4.3 can be
 found at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.3

 The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
 builds download page at

   http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

 Developers and QA might also be interested in the symbol server for
 windows debug information (see the release notes linked below for
 details)

 Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

   https://bugs.freedesktop.org

 A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
 specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:


 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

 For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
 e.g. contribute code:

   http://www.libreoffice.org/community/developers/

 translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

 or help with funding our operations:

   http://donate.libreoffice.org/

 A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.3.0 RC3 is available
 from our wiki:

   http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.3.0/RC3

 Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
 contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
 been possible without your help.

 On behalf of the Community,

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​Kudos on what, judging from the hitherto released documentation, seems to
be a splendid edition of LibreOffice with many significant improvements !...

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.2.1 is a Stable version???

2014-03-08 Thread M Henri Day 
2014-03-08 17:50 GMT+01:00 Pedro pedl...@gmail.com:

 Hi Christian, *


 Christian Lohmaier-3 wrote
  They are not for conservative users, but that is different from being
  stable vs testing.

 You are right about Stable vs Testing. My mistake (but that is just
 nit-picking...)

 The fact that version 4.2.1 is being pushed to every new user (with an
 almost hidden and currently outdated Release Notes as an argument that
 people are warned) proves that Quality is an after-thought...

 Still disappointed.


​But Pedro, surely quality is not a function of terminology - or
numerology, ​
​for that matter ? Whether version 4.2.1 is ready for release to the
general public without a warning has more to do with how well and how
reliably it functions than that the third digit is a «1»

Kudos to the developers, who in my opinion, have done a great job in
providing us users with quality products !...

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Urgent clarification for Bug submitters/triagers! Attention Devs!

2014-02-23 Thread M Henri Day 
2014-02-23 13:16 GMT+01:00 Pedro pedl...@gmail.com:

 Hi all

 Since the 4.2.1 branch was closed with a single release and the current
 daily builds from the 4.2 branch are now named 4.2.3 (since Feb 20th), what
 happened to 4.2.2???

 What does that mean for a bug like this one
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75376

 It worked in 4.2.0, it is broken in 4.2.1 (so it is a regression) and it is
 fixed in the daily builds named 4.2.3...

 Does it mean
 1) it will be fixed for 4.2.2 and that the dailies are simply incorrectly
 named
 2) there will be no 4.2.2 release and the fix will be included in the next
 release which will be named 4.2.3
 3) there will be a 4.2.2 release (with no dailies) and the bugs fixed in
 4.2.3 will be released with 4.2.3 (so it would make sense to request this
 regression fix to be cherry picked?)

 Cheers,
 Pedro


​You seem to have effectively covered all bases there, Pedro !... [?]

Henri​
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Google drive on mac osx not working

2014-02-14 Thread M Henri Day 
2014-02-14 17:48 GMT+01:00 Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com:

 Le 14/02/2014 17:16, Thomas Meulen a écrit :
  Hi all,
 
  Since version 4.2 there has been made an connection with Google drive so
 you could save and open your files with Google drive. This seems to be
 working fine for me on Windows, but I can not find the sever type on mac.
  Could anyone else please have a look and verify that it is missing on
 Mac osx?
 
  Here are the instructions:
  1. go to option -- general — and check use LibreOffice dialogs”
  2. open the file opening dialog.
  3. click on the three dots icon next to the file path.
  4. under “type” select “CMIS”
  5. under Server type” try to find Google drive
  6. here is seems to be missing under mac osx.

 Also under Linux, it's a bug I've filled some times ago, so you'll be
 able to confirm it now :)
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72646
 Cheers
 Sophie


​Despite your having filed it more than two months ago, Sophie, this bug
remains unassigned. Is it considered to be of little significance ?...

Henri​
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Calc freeze issues

2014-02-13 Thread M Henri Day 
2014-02-07 14:59 GMT+01:00 Kohei Yoshida libreoff...@kohei.us:

 Hi there,

 FYI, a large number of Calc freeze problems may be attributed to the
 same root cause, which I fixed for Bug 72470

 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72470

 The problem code kicks in when you have a document that has at least one
 cell containing mixed script types.  Pretty much any action can trigger
 this.  Typing a new value into a cell, copy-n-pasting a range of cells,
 changing cell format, inserting cells, sorting, you name it.

 But what does mixed script types mean?  Internally Calc categorizes text
 language types into 3 script types: latin, asian, and complex.  Latin
 covers the western languages such as English, French, German etc, Asian
 covers Chinese, Japanese, Korean (and Vietnamese?), and Complex covers
 Arabic, Hebrew etc.  If you see a bug report that claims Calc freezes
 after doing ABC, and it only does in the new 4.2.0 release (or beta and
 RC before that), check the content of the file and see if it has mixed
 script types.  If so, it may be caused by the same root cause as the
 above bug.  Please re-check those bugs again with the build that
 contains the fix for that bug.

 I've browsed through bugzilla last night, and I saw quite a number of
 them that may fit the profile.

 Thanks,

 Kohei


​Kohei, any chance of a patch for ​Linux (in my specific case, deb) users
being posted in the near future, in addition to those you've already posted
for Windows and Mac users, respectively ?...

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Calc freeze issues

2014-02-13 Thread M Henri Day 
2014-02-13 18:39 GMT+01:00 Kohei Yoshida libreoff...@kohei.us:

 On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 11:33 +0100, M Henri Day wrote:


  ​Kohei, any chance of a patch for ​Linux (in my specific case, deb)
  users being posted in the near future, in addition to those you've
  already posted for Windows and Mac users, respectively ?...

 Actually, I don't know personally.  Let me CC cloph and see if he can
 suggest something toward this end.

 Meanwhile, I believe there is a way to install an rpm on the debian
 based system, and that's probably what people have been doing.  I don't
 know the specifics though.

 Kohei


​Kohei (Kōhei ?), the so-called ​«Alien» utility allows packages to easily
be converted from rpm to deb and vice-versa, but here I fail to see what
would be the point, as the patch seems only to be available for Mac or
Windows OSes. But in the event a patch for either rpm eller deb is
released, I'd be happy to test to see if installing it resolves the problem
described by the OP

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[Libreoffice-qa] Another suggestion for LibO developers

2014-02-02 Thread M Henri Day 
​Kudos on the release of ​
​version 4.2.0.4, which my Linux Mint PPA kindly installed on my main box
yesterday. My first impression is hugely positive

Reading more or less contemporaneously a *Nature Methods* editorial
entitled ​
​*Kick the Bar Chart Habit*​
​ (
http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/v11/n2/full/nmeth.2837.html?WT.ec_id=NMETH-201402),
I was struck by the following sentence : «This is often a box plot, but
software packages such as Excel do not provide this plotting option».​
​ My question is - would it be difficult to provide such an option in Calc
? LibreOffice is often accused of simply attempting to catch up to MS
Office ; perhaps including a feature like the forenamed could help to
change minds and to put it on quite a few computers used in writing
scientific articles ​
?
​...

(The editorial points to a web tool (
http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/v11/n2/full/nmeth.2811.html?WT.ec_id=NMETH-201402)
for creating box plots, but I'm certain many users would love to have the
option to keep the machinery on their own computer)​


​Henri​
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Another suggestion for LibO developers

2014-02-02 Thread M Henri Day 
2014-02-02 Pedro pedl...@gmail.com:

 Hi Henri


 mhenriday wrote
   My question is - would it be difficult to provide such an option in Calc
  ? LibreOffice is often accused of simply attempting to catch up to MS
  Office ; perhaps including a feature like the forenamed could help to
  change minds and to put it on quite a few computers used in writing
  scientific articles ​?

 It's not exactly a new feature in an Open Source spreadsheet... Gnumeric
 already had box plots (and other scientific charts and tests) for years (in
 association with the R project, under Plot Type  Statistics and the whole
 Statistics menu, of which some are FINALLY included in the unstable LO
 4.2)...

 I think that the problem is that none of the FLOSS softwares and file
 formats are taken seriously under the Windows platform...

 Hell, FLOSS softwares don't even take each other seriously... E.g. Calc
 NEVER supported gnumeric files (although Gnumeric does support ODS) and
 FINALLY the current unstable version 4.2 supports Abiword files...

 To be honest it is not only a problem for FLOSS under Windows... Even the
 vastly superior QPro (part of Wordperfect Office) is an underdog because of
 MS' marketing tactics...

 So as usual in a capitalist open market it is not the technically better
 Beta video standard that wins but the crappy VHS with the strong lobby ;)

 Just my 2 cents ;)


​Thanks, Pedro - a most interesting analysis ! But my question remains :
would the developers find introducing such a feature into Calc, which, from
what you write, I gather would not be too difficult to do, worthwhile ?
Again, it might not be a bad idea to be able to point to yet another area
in which LibO is ahead of MSO

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] .odt to .pdf -- file extension question

2014-01-13 Thread M Henri Day 
2014/1/13 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com

 Hi,

 I am just asking here as I am not sure if this is a bug or a decision made
 by QA.

 When I create a document and then choose the option to export to .pdf, the
 regular PDF window opens, and, all if fine, BUT, when you then go on to
 Export, the file name that shows automatically has the .odt extension
 tacked onto the end of the file. This then creates a file with the extension

 ?.odt original file is then saved as
 ?.odt.pdf

 Is this the intended behaviour that we want? Would it not be more
 appropriate to export the file and stip the original extension off the
 file? Like this:

 ?.odt original file should be saved as
 ?.pdf

 Cheers,

 Marc


​Hullo Marc,

I've just tested exporting documents in three different file formats -
.odt, .doc, and .txt - to .pdf, and in none of them did I experience the
odd behaviour you mention above ; on the contrary, all were​
​ saved, as expected, as .pdf files. This using LO 4.1.4.2 (Build ID:
410m0(Build:2)) on 64-bit Linux Mint 16

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Manual tests prepared for RC2

2014-01-13 Thread M Henri Day 
2014/1/12 M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com

 2014/1/12 Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com

 Hi Henri,
 Le 12/01/2014 15:36, M Henri Day a écrit :
  2014/1/10 Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com
 
  Hi Henri,
 
  Sorry for the delay,
  Le 07/01/2014 14:36, M Henri Day a écrit :
  2014/1/3 Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com
 
  Hi all,
 
  I've prepared a Moztrap run for 4.2.0 RC2. I've corrected the tests
 that
  have ambiguities, added pdf documents to the MS2ODF tests, and also
  added regression tests on Writer wizards.
  I'll activate the run next week.
  Thanks to all who participates to the previous runs!
 
  Cheers
  Sophie
 
 
  ​Sophie, I've looked at the MozTrap Tutorial, but it seems to be
 directed
  at those who. like yourself, wish to set up one for a particular
 product.
  Myself, I have a more modest goal - I'd like to participate in the​
 
  ​testing of 4.2.0 RC2. I'm presently running ​LO 4.1.4.2 Build ID:
  410m0(Build:2) on 64-bit Linux Mint 16. Could I ask you to point me
 to a
  tutorial which shows how to use MozTrap - or some similar device - to
  test
  4.20 RC2 ?...
 
  There is an explanation here:
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/MozTrap/User_Guide
  Also, there is the Mozilla documentation:
  https://moztrap.readthedocs.org/en/latest/userguide/index.html
 
  Don't hesitate to ask if you have any question and thanks for your
 tests :)
 
  Cheers
  Sophie
 
 
  ​Sophie, I'm not quite certain that I'm doing the right thing, but after
  downloading and installing the base package (
  LibreOffice_4.2.0.2_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz
 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.2.0.2_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz
 ),
  which went fine, and then downloading the Swedish helppack (
  LibreOffice_4.2.0.2_Linux_x86-64_deb_helppack_sv.tar.gz
 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.2.0.2_Linux_x86-64_deb_helppack_sv.tar.gz
 ),
  which also went fine, but where my subsequent attempt at installation
  failed due to dependency problems (a notice to the effect that
  libobasis4.2-sv was not installed appeared in my terminal),

 I'm not sure you have seen the post from Christian saying that he
 corrected the dependencies issue and rebuilt clean install set

 http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/2014-January/006327.html


 I opened a
  MozTrap account, clicked «Run tests», chose 4.2.0 RC2, and then
 selected an
  environment, which included the following parametres : «Arch» (in my
 case,
  x86_64), «Locale» (I chose «En_GB», and «Platforms» (Linux), after
 which a
  further 49 report parametres appeared, starting with «Install
 LibreOffice»,
  which, alas, I was forced to report as having failed, due to the
 dependency
  problem mentioned above. I copied in the relevant portions of the
 terminal
  log by way of explanation. Is this the sort of reporting you and MozTrap
  had in mind, or have I utterly misunderstood ? I'd be most grateful if
 you
  could take a look at the my MozTrap report and tell me whether I'm on
 the
  right track or no

 Yes, it's allright, you're doing all well :) adding details when the
 test fails is really a good thing. So thanks a lot, and don't hesitate
 if you have other questions.

 Cheers
 Sophie


 ​Thanks, Sophie ! Good to know that I hadn't entirely misunderstood ! As
 a matter of fact, I did use Christian's link to access the clean install
 set, but alas, it would seem that the dependency issue remains alive and
 well, at least for the Swedish helppack. I'm hoping Christian will take a
 further look at this matter and report back on this thread when the
 dependency issue has been corrected ; I'll then try once again to install
 the helppack and, in the event I succeed run further MozTrap tests

 À bientôt

 Henri


​Just a line, Sophie, to say that when I clicked the link provided by
Christian in his latest announcement regarding 4.2.0 RC2, unlike in the
previous case, a download link for the Swedish langpack (which has to be
installed prior to the installation of the Swedish helppack) was now
displayed, so the dependency problems which I experienced earlier didn't
turn up this time around. Thus I've been able to perform most of the
MozTrap tests, with excellent results. Kudos to the developers !...

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Manual tests prepared for RC2

2014-01-12 Thread M Henri Day 
2014/1/10 Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com

 Hi Henri,

 Sorry for the delay,
 Le 07/01/2014 14:36, M Henri Day a écrit :
  2014/1/3 Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com
 
  Hi all,
 
  I've prepared a Moztrap run for 4.2.0 RC2. I've corrected the tests that
  have ambiguities, added pdf documents to the MS2ODF tests, and also
  added regression tests on Writer wizards.
  I'll activate the run next week.
  Thanks to all who participates to the previous runs!
 
  Cheers
  Sophie
 
 
  ​Sophie, I've looked at the MozTrap Tutorial, but it seems to be directed
  at those who. like yourself, wish to set up one for a particular product.
  Myself, I have a more modest goal - I'd like to participate in the​
 
  ​testing of 4.2.0 RC2. I'm presently running ​LO 4.1.4.2 Build ID:
  410m0(Build:2) on 64-bit Linux Mint 16. Could I ask you to point me to a
  tutorial which shows how to use MozTrap - or some similar device - to
 test
  4.20 RC2 ?...

 There is an explanation here:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/MozTrap/User_Guide
 Also, there is the Mozilla documentation:
 https://moztrap.readthedocs.org/en/latest/userguide/index.html

 Don't hesitate to ask if you have any question and thanks for your tests :)

 Cheers
 Sophie


​Sophie, I'm not quite certain that I'm doing the right thing, but after
downloading and installing the base package (
LibreOffice_4.2.0.2_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gzhttp://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.2.0.2_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz),
which went fine, and then downloading the Swedish helppack (
LibreOffice_4.2.0.2_Linux_x86-64_deb_helppack_sv.tar.gzhttp://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.2.0.2_Linux_x86-64_deb_helppack_sv.tar.gz),
which also went fine, but where my subsequent attempt at installation
failed due to dependency problems (a notice to the effect that
libobasis4.2-sv was not installed appeared in my terminal), I opened a
MozTrap account, clicked «Run tests», chose 4.2.0 RC2, and then selected an
environment, which included the following parametres : «Arch» (in my case,
x86_64), «Locale» (I chose «En_GB», and «Platforms» (Linux), after which a
further 49 report parametres appeared, starting with «Install LibreOffice»,
which, alas, I was forced to report as having failed, due to the dependency
problem mentioned above. I copied in the relevant portions of the terminal
log by way of explanation. Is this the sort of reporting you and MozTrap
had in mind, or have I utterly misunderstood ? I'd be most grateful if you
could take a look at the my MozTrap report and tell me whether I'm on the
right track or no

À bientôt

Henri
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Manual tests prepared for RC2

2014-01-12 Thread M Henri Day 
2014/1/12 Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com

 Hi Henri,
 Le 12/01/2014 15:36, M Henri Day a écrit :
  2014/1/10 Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com
 
  Hi Henri,
 
  Sorry for the delay,
  Le 07/01/2014 14:36, M Henri Day a écrit :
  2014/1/3 Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com
 
  Hi all,
 
  I've prepared a Moztrap run for 4.2.0 RC2. I've corrected the tests
 that
  have ambiguities, added pdf documents to the MS2ODF tests, and also
  added regression tests on Writer wizards.
  I'll activate the run next week.
  Thanks to all who participates to the previous runs!
 
  Cheers
  Sophie
 
 
  ​Sophie, I've looked at the MozTrap Tutorial, but it seems to be
 directed
  at those who. like yourself, wish to set up one for a particular
 product.
  Myself, I have a more modest goal - I'd like to participate in the​
 
  ​testing of 4.2.0 RC2. I'm presently running ​LO 4.1.4.2 Build ID:
  410m0(Build:2) on 64-bit Linux Mint 16. Could I ask you to point me to
 a
  tutorial which shows how to use MozTrap - or some similar device - to
  test
  4.20 RC2 ?...
 
  There is an explanation here:
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/MozTrap/User_Guide
  Also, there is the Mozilla documentation:
  https://moztrap.readthedocs.org/en/latest/userguide/index.html
 
  Don't hesitate to ask if you have any question and thanks for your
 tests :)
 
  Cheers
  Sophie
 
 
  ​Sophie, I'm not quite certain that I'm doing the right thing, but after
  downloading and installing the base package (
  LibreOffice_4.2.0.2_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz
 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.2.0.2_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz
 ),
  which went fine, and then downloading the Swedish helppack (
  LibreOffice_4.2.0.2_Linux_x86-64_deb_helppack_sv.tar.gz
 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.2.0.2_Linux_x86-64_deb_helppack_sv.tar.gz
 ),
  which also went fine, but where my subsequent attempt at installation
  failed due to dependency problems (a notice to the effect that
  libobasis4.2-sv was not installed appeared in my terminal),

 I'm not sure you have seen the post from Christian saying that he
 corrected the dependencies issue and rebuilt clean install set

 http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/2014-January/006327.html


 I opened a
  MozTrap account, clicked «Run tests», chose 4.2.0 RC2, and then selected
 an
  environment, which included the following parametres : «Arch» (in my
 case,
  x86_64), «Locale» (I chose «En_GB», and «Platforms» (Linux), after which
 a
  further 49 report parametres appeared, starting with «Install
 LibreOffice»,
  which, alas, I was forced to report as having failed, due to the
 dependency
  problem mentioned above. I copied in the relevant portions of the
 terminal
  log by way of explanation. Is this the sort of reporting you and MozTrap
  had in mind, or have I utterly misunderstood ? I'd be most grateful if
 you
  could take a look at the my MozTrap report and tell me whether I'm on the
  right track or no

 Yes, it's allright, you're doing all well :) adding details when the
 test fails is really a good thing. So thanks a lot, and don't hesitate
 if you have other questions.

 Cheers
 Sophie


​Thanks, Sophie ! Good to know that I hadn't entirely misunderstood ! As a
matter of fact, I did use Christian's link to access the clean install set,
but alas, it would seem that the dependency issue remains alive and well,
at least for the Swedish helppack. I'm hoping Christian will take a further
look at this matter and report back on this thread when the dependency
issue has been corrected ; I'll then try once again to install the helppack
and, in the event I succeed run further MozTrap tests

À bientôt

Henri
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Manual tests prepared for RC2

2014-01-07 Thread M Henri Day 
2014/1/3 Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com

 Hi all,

 I've prepared a Moztrap run for 4.2.0 RC2. I've corrected the tests that
 have ambiguities, added pdf documents to the MS2ODF tests, and also
 added regression tests on Writer wizards.
 I'll activate the run next week.
 Thanks to all who participates to the previous runs!

 Cheers
 Sophie


​Sophie, I've looked at the MozTrap Tutorial, but it seems to be directed
at those who. like yourself, wish to set up one for a particular product.
Myself, I have a more modest goal - I'd like to participate in the​

​testing of 4.2.0 RC2. I'm presently running ​LO 4.1.4.2 Build ID:
410m0(Build:2) on 64-bit Linux Mint 16. Could I ask you to point me to a
tutorial which shows how to use MozTrap - or some similar device - to test
4.20 RC2 ?...

À bientôt

Henri
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LIbreOffice 4.2.0 RC1 available

2013-12-20 Thread M Henri Day 
2013/12/20 Christian Lohmaier lohma...@googlemail.com

 Dear Community,

 The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first release
 candidate of LibreOffice 4.2.0. The upcoming 4.2.0 will bring new
 features and lots of bugfixes. Check out
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.2 for an
 (incomplete and work-in-progress) list of the new features.
 Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.2.0 RC1 is not been flagged as ready
 for production use yet, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.1.4 for
 that.

 The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
 builds download page at

   http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

 LibreOffice 4.2.0 RC1 is also available in a 64bit version for Mac OS
 X 10.8 (or newer)

 Developers and QA might also be interested in the symbol server for
 windows debug information (see the release notes linked below for
 details)

 Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

   https://bugs.freedesktop.org

 A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
 specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:


 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

 For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
 e.g. contribute code:

   http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

 translate LibreOffice to your language:

   http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

 or help with funding our operations:

   http://donate.libreoffice.org/

 A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.2.0 RC1 is available
 from our wiki:

   http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.2.0/RC1

 Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
 contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
 been possible without your help.

 On behalf of the Community,

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LIbreOffice 4.2.0 RC1 available

2013-12-20 Thread M Henri Day 
2013/12/20 Christian Lohmaier lohma...@googlemail.com

 Dear Community,

 The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first release
 candidate of LibreOffice 4.2.0. The upcoming 4.2.0 will bring new
 features and lots of bugfixes. Check out
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.2 for an
 (incomplete and work-in-progress) list of the new features.
 Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.2.0 RC1 is not been flagged as ready
 for production use yet, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.1.4 for
 that.

 The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
 builds download page at

   http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

 LibreOffice 4.2.0 RC1 is also available in a 64bit version for Mac OS
 X 10.8 (or newer)

 Developers and QA might also be interested in the symbol server for
 windows debug information (see the release notes linked below for
 details)

 Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

   https://bugs.freedesktop.org

 A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
 specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:


 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

 For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
 e.g. contribute code:

   http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

 translate LibreOffice to your language:

   http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

 or help with funding our operations:

   http://donate.libreoffice.org/

 A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.2.0 RC1 is available
 from our wiki:

   http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.2.0/RC1

 Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
 contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
 been possible without your help.

 On behalf of the Community,

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANNOUNCE] Tag libreoffice-4.1.2.3 (on branch libreoffice-4-1-2) created

2013-09-29 Thread M Henri Day 
2013/9/29 Christian Lohmaier lohma...@googlemail.com

 Hi all,

 The tag libreoffice-4.1.2.3 (AKA 4.1.2 RC3) has been created. This is
 an initially unscheduled RC because of regressions in RC2 that the
 QA-Team identified (thanks to all testers)

 Attached is the list of changes against RC2

 To checkout the tag, use

 ./g fetch --tags
 ./g checkout -b tag-libreoffice-4.1.2.3 libreoffice-4.1.2.3

 Linux distro packagers might find source tarballs at
 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/src/
 They will soon be available from the official page together with the
 builds.

 See also
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.1#4.1.2_release
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Release_Criteria
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Branches

 Happy hacking,
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looking forward to this version being uploaded as an Ubuntu PPA, so I can
begin using it

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC4 test builds available for smoketesting

2013-07-25 Thread M Henri Day 
2013/7/25 Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com

   There still seems to be a problem with 4.1.0.4 for Debian x86. I
 downloaded it for my Ubuntu laptop and then installed. It installs in
 /opt/libreoffice4.1. However, when I click on soffice in the
 /opt/libreoffice4.1/program folder, version 4.0.3.3 appears when I click on
 Help  About LibreOffice. The download was from
 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/.
  I'm now sure what happened since I installed version 4.0.3.3 when it
 first came out.
  Another thing: Today's installation added 4.1.0.4 to my menu.
 However, if I double click any of the LibreOffice 4.1.0.4, the 4.0.3.3 is
 the one that runs.

 --Dan


Dan, I have the LO-PPA installed on my 64-bit Linux Mint 15 setup. Early
this morning I was apprised of a new update and when I accepted, 4.1.0.4
was uploaded, smooth as silk. Clicking on any of my LO icons on the top
panel now opens the 4.1.0.4 version of the application in question. Colour
me pleased. Kudos to the developers - and not least, Rico Tzschichholz, who
seems to have uploaded the PPA !...

Henri
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Send Feedback...and BSA ideas

2013-07-12 Thread M Henri Day 
2013/7/12 Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com

 Hi All,

 After a long discussion with Robinson we came up with a quasi workable
 plan for what we hope to be the new setup for send feedback... - I think
 currently there are a couple problems with the send feedback button within
 LibreOffice:

 a) Send Feedback... implies more than just bug reporting but currently
 it's only linked to BSA

 b) It is assumed that the increase of user support questions being
 submitted as bug reports is coming from send feedback...

 c) BSA requires additional logins - so if a user wants to submit feedback
 they have to get an account


 So here was the idea(s):

 Landing page similar to Mozilla's (smiley face/frowny face) with perhaps 2
 or 3 options - user support, bug report, maybe get involved or some such
 thing

 If they click bug report it would go to BSA but to address Bjoern's
 concern about the number of steps required to report a bug (ie. mandatory
 to get an account, sign in, etc...) we would allow users to report without
 an account but give the option to get an account and explain how it's
 helpful to have one.

 The idea is that if the user chooses to submit without an account, the bug
 will be reported under a default account (possibly b...@tdfplanet.org),
 they will be forced to enter an email address and do a captcha - then their
 email address would go into the bug report as a CC'ed user.

 So this would affect BSA as a whole - the negative(s):

 1. Reporters won't be as accurate any more - but honestly I'm not sure if
 we care about this

 2. Reporters will need an account if they are going to comment on their
 bug in the future, may result in NEEDINFO's going stagnant butthis is
 the case anyways probably not going to result in a huge increase.



 Currently Mozilla (which we discussed during ESC) doesn't force a user
 account so, if we can emulate this and get to a landing page which avoids
 having to sign up for accounts - might be a good thing.


 Before we move forward looking for feedback, Robinson feel free to expand
 on anything that I missed.



 Warm Regards,
 Joel


Sounds good to me, Joel, particularly than part about not requiring a user
account

Henri
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