[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104536] Add pen feature to Impress Remote

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104536

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   What|Removed |Added

 Depends on||62366


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62366
[Bug 62366] SLIDESHOW: Pen on the presenter console
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104536] Add pen feature to Impress Remote

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104536

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Depends on||106247


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106247
[Bug 106247] Add a highlighter feature in Impress and Presenter Console
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104536] Add pen feature to Impress Remote

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104536

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Depends on||106246


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106246
[Bug 106246] Add a laser pointer feature in Impress and Presenter Console
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104536] Add pen feature to Impress Remote

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--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Bastián Díaz from comment #6)
> > Doesn't sound right, better we get a dev advice. Impress Remote is likely a
> > separate bug.
> 
> I explained it very badly.

You were very clear but my suggestion to split might be wrong. I mean when the
feature is upgraded from pen to shapes, or the like, that might be one task.
Anyway, as you started with small tasks, which is always great since linking
them together is easy, lets make this one a meta ticket.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104536] Add pen feature to Impress Remote

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--- Comment #6 from Bastián Díaz  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> (In reply to Bastián Díaz from comment #4)
> > You mean: a) add pen feature to presenter console b) add highlighter c)
> > drawing tools, In addition to this report? 
> > 
> > Actually my biggest interest points to something simple from Impress Remote
> > in the first place. It would be nice to have a metabug to suggest
> > improvements to the presentation console.
> 
> Doesn't sound right, better we get a dev advice. Impress Remote is likely a
> separate bug.

I explained it very badly. Anyway I will wait for the evaluation to know if the
introduction of the suggested features for Impress Remote are possible.

For now related bug (presenter console): Bug 106246, Bug 106247, Bug 62366

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104536] Add pen feature to Impress Remote

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--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Bastián Díaz from comment #4)
> You mean: a) add pen feature to presenter console b) add highlighter c)
> drawing tools, In addition to this report? 
> 
> Actually my biggest interest points to something simple from Impress Remote
> in the first place. It would be nice to have a metabug to suggest
> improvements to the presentation console.

Doesn't sound right, better we get a dev advice. Impress Remote is likely a
separate bug.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104536] Add pen feature to Impress Remote

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--- Comment #4 from Bastián Díaz  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3)

> It's the same in MS Office, you get the pen in a context menu.

That's right, but does it have real practical use?
Currently in LO there is no other option, but it could only be useful if the
monitor is duplicated. Other presentation programs show a floating box in a
corner of the presentation.

> But agreed,
> this feature could be made available additionally as a toggle button in the
> presenter console.
>  



> > Specific
> > • Improve the color picker (displaying a predefined color list is better
> > than a color picker)
> 
> The old picker is really not the best option. Better we use the new picker
> which would have a recent colors swatch.

Sure, but I meant to lay the color picker as second or third choice. Usually
only a very small number of basic colors and mainly red color.

> 
> > • Add Highlighter
> > http://www.dummies.com/software/microsoft-office/powerpoint/how-to-annotate-
> > powerpoint-2016-slides-during-a-presentation/
> > • Add more drawing tools (As some predefined common stock options) Ex. Like
> > Skitch https://youtu.be/65xmNyCw89A?t=140
> >   → Arrows
> >   → Lines
> >   → Rectangles
> >   → circles
> 
> Good idea.
>  
> Maybe it's better to file three different tickets for these enhancements.
> IIRC there is a meta ticket for missing color pickers but I didn't found it
> glancing over search results.

You mean: a) add pen feature to presenter console b) add highlighter c) drawing
tools, In addition to this report? 

Actually my biggest interest points to something simple from Impress Remote in
the first place. It would be nice to have a metabug to suggest improvements to
the presentation console.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104536] Add pen feature to Impress Remote

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--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Bastián Díaz from comment #2)
> general
> • Remove this feature from the presentation context menu
> • Add the function in the Impress presentation console and it is similar to
> Impress Remote (here it is important that the presentation console is
> analogous to Impress Remote and that they share features)

It's the same in MS Office, you get the pen in a context menu. But agreed, this
feature could be made available additionally as a toggle button in the
presenter console.

> Specific
> • Improve the color picker (displaying a predefined color list is better
> than a color picker)

The old picker is really not the best option. Better we use the new picker
which would have a recent colors swatch.

> • Add Highlighter
> http://www.dummies.com/software/microsoft-office/powerpoint/how-to-annotate-
> powerpoint-2016-slides-during-a-presentation/
> • Add more drawing tools (As some predefined common stock options) Ex. Like
> Skitch https://youtu.be/65xmNyCw89A?t=140
>   → Arrows
>   → Lines
>   → Rectangles
>   → circles

Good idea.

Maybe it's better to file three different tickets for these enhancements. IIRC
there is a meta ticket for missing color pickers but I didn't found it glancing
over search results.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104536] Add pen feature to Impress Remote

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--- Comment #2 from Bastián Díaz  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #1)
> I see some issue, in particular with the refresh. But what do you expect for
> the pen tool? 

Well, difficult question but I tried to give my point of view about this topic.
Firstly what I hope is that I can perform the same function currently available
in LO remotely via Impress Remote.

However, I would expect this feature to be polished:

general
• Remove this feature from the presentation context menu
• Add the function in the Impress presentation console and it is similar to
Impress Remote (here it is important that the presentation console is analogous
to Impress Remote and that they share features)

Specific
• Improve the color picker (displaying a predefined color list is better than a
color picker)
• Add Highlighter
http://www.dummies.com/software/microsoft-office/powerpoint/how-to-annotate-powerpoint-2016-slides-during-a-presentation/
• Add more drawing tools (As some predefined common stock options) Ex. Like
Skitch https://youtu.be/65xmNyCw89A?t=140
  → Arrows
  → Lines
  → Rectangles
  → circles

> Do you have any special use case?

More than use cases respond to a style as a different presenter. For a certain
age range or context (eg school) more dynamism is needed or replace the
difficulty of working with animations and effects, etc.

• To mark or highlight important text on a slide (or photograph of a journal,
magazine, etc.)
• To mark the trend, key point or result of a chart
• To mark details of an image through interaction with the audience (eg,
radiography shown to a group of students)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104536] Add pen feature to Impress Remote

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--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
I see some issue, in particular with the refresh. But what do you expect for
the pen tool? Do you have any special use case?

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