[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 115970] Set default font size for CJK fonts as locale value

[bugzilla-daemon]

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115970

Volga  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also|https://bugs.documentfounda |
   |tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11 |
   |6174|

--- Comment #16 from Volga  ---
*** Bug 116174 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.___
Libreoffice-bugs mailing list
Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org
https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 115970] Set default font size for CJK fonts as locale value

[bugzilla-daemon]

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115970

--- Comment #15 from Volga  ---
With a notice from Mark Hung, I have found that W3C Requirements for Chinese
Text Layout has following notes at section 2.3.5: 

“Character size. For the main target audience of publications, i.e. the adult
population, the most common character size is 10.5pt (≒3.7mm) or 9pt (≒3.2mm).
The minimum acceptable size is 8pt (≒2.8mm), except for specialized
publications.” 

Then I found Requirements for Japanese Text Layout has following instruction
for Kihon-kanmen (basic layout): 

“b. Character size. Generally 9 point (about 3.2mm) type is common. Except for
specialized publications such as dictionaries, the minimum size of type is 8
point (about 2.8mm).” 

“(note 1) In Western text layout, 10 point (about 3.5mm) or 12 point (about
4.2mm) type is common. This is mainly because of a difference in design
principles between Japanese and Latin characters.” 

Requirements for Korean Text Layout doesn’t have such requirement.

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.___
Libreoffice-bugs mailing list
Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org
https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 115970] Set default font size for CJK fonts as locale value

[bugzilla-daemon]

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115970

Volga  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Attachment #142612|0   |1
is obsolete||

--- Comment #14 from Volga  ---
Created attachment 142613
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=142613=edit
Microsoft Word 2006's Font dialog (zh-cn)

In MS Word, both Western and Eastern text font share the same settings for
style and size, and both these texts defaulting to 10.5 (小四) in Simplified
Chinese locale. When you create a new document in MS Word, you can right click
the page, then choose Font in context menu, then you will see it. 

Althrough our Characters dialog uses separate font style and size settings for
these text, we are still able to follow this behavior, just similar to what we
have made for Tab stops.

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.___
Libreoffice-bugs mailing list
Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org
https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 115970] Set default font size for CJK fonts as locale value

[bugzilla-daemon]

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115970

--- Comment #13 from Volga  ---
Created attachment 142612
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=142612=edit
Microsoft Word 2010's Font dialog (zh-cn)

In MS Word, both Western and Eastern text font share the same settings for
style and size, and both these texts defaulting to 10.5 (小四) in Simplified
Chinese locale. When you create a new document in MS Word, you can right click
the page, then choose Font in context menu, then you will see it.

Althrough our Characters dialog uses separate font style and size settings for
them, we are still able to follow this behavior.

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.___
Libreoffice-bugs mailing list
Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org
https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 115970] Set default font size for CJK fonts as locale value

[bugzilla-daemon]

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115970

--- Comment #12 from Volga  ---
With a recent notice from Mark Hung, I have found that W3C Requirements for
Chinese Text Layout has following notes at section 2.3.5:
“Character size. For the main target audience of publications, i.e. the adult
population, the most common character size is 10.5pt (≒3.7mm) or 9pt (≒3.2mm).
The minimum acceptable size is 8pt (≒2.8mm), except for specialized
publications.”

Then I found Requirements for Chinese Text Layout has following instruction for
Kihon-kanmen (basic layout):
“b. Character size. Generally 9 point (about 3.2mm) type is common. Except for
specialized publications such as dictionaries, the minimum size of type is 8
point (about 2.8mm).”

“(note 1) In Western text layout, 10 point (about 3.5mm) or 12 point (about
4.2mm) type is common. This is mainly because of a difference in design
principles between Japanese and Latin characters.”

Requirements for Korean Text Layout doesn’t have such requirement.

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.___
Libreoffice-bugs mailing list
Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org
https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 115970] Set default font size for CJK fonts as locale value

[bugzilla-daemon]

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115970

--- Comment #11 from Volga  ---
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #10)
> To all: should we set bug 116174 and bug 116175 to NEW as well or is there
> something further to consider?

Yes. I agree with you, and I suggest fixing them together.

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.___
Libreoffice-bugs mailing list
Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org
https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 115970] Set default font size for CJK fonts as locale value

[bugzilla-daemon]

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115970

Buovjaga  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||todven...@suomi24.fi

--- Comment #10 from Buovjaga  ---
To all: should we set bug 116174 and bug 116175 to NEW as well or is there
something further to consider?

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.___
Libreoffice-bugs mailing list
Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org
https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 115970] Set default font size for CJK fonts as locale value

[bugzilla-daemon]

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115970

Volga  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11
   ||6174,
   ||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11
   ||6175

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.___
Libreoffice-bugs mailing list
Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org
https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 115970] Set default font size for CJK fonts as locale value

[bugzilla-daemon]

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115970

Volga  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||83066


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83066
[Bug 83066] [META] CJK (Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and Vietnamese) language
issues
-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.___
Libreoffice-bugs mailing list
Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org
https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 115970] Set default font size for CJK fonts as locale value

[bugzilla-daemon]

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115970

Volga  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Smaller default font size   |Set default font size for
   |for CJK fonts as locale |CJK fonts as locale value
   |value   |

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.___
Libreoffice-bugs mailing list
Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org
https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs